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Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Wednesday, 6 February 2008, in the House of Lords.
Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill. Lords Committee stage second day. Clauses 3 to 9 agreed to, with clauses 4 and 7 agreed to as amended. Schedule 2 agreed to as amended. New clause under consideration.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
698 c1070-117; 698 c1133-56 
Session
2007-08
Department
Ministry of Justice
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Related items
Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill. Brought from the Commons. In two volumes. (Explanatory Note HL Bill 16-EN published).
Wednesday, 9 January 2008
Bills
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 698 c1153-5 (Link to this contribution) That was a pithy comment. The debate is a fitting conclusion to an extraordinarily interesting day. ...
Lord Judd | 698 c1155-6 (Link to this contribution) I am extremely grateful to all noble Lords who participated in this debate, and I am particularly gr...

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Lord Bassam of Brighton | 698 c1156 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move that the House do now resume. Moved accordingly, and, on Question, Motion agreed to.
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 698 c1095 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 63A: 63A: Clause 7, page 4, leave out line 42 On Question, amendment agreed t...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 698 c1095 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 64A: 64A: Clause 7, page 5, line 50, leave out from beginning to end of line 4...
Lord Geddes | 698 c1094 (Link to this contribution) I understand that Amendments Nos. 50 to 62 and 63A and 64A have already been debated although they a...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 698 c1094-5 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendments Nos. 50 to 62: 50: Schedule 4, page 196, line 15, after ““2000”” insert ““or (as ...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 698 c1093-4 (Link to this contribution) I appreciate that the noble Lord is trying to be helpful, but I think that the level of detail that ...
Lord Kingsland | 698 c1094 (Link to this contribution) I find the Minister's reply unusually unconvincing. If national standards are as effective as the no...
Baroness Butler-Sloss | 698 c1100 (Link to this contribution) I entirely support the amendment spoken to by the noble Earl, Lord Onslow. I consider it important t...
Baroness Stern | 698 c1099-100 (Link to this contribution) I, too, shall speak to Amendments Nos. 66 and 69, so ably spoken to by the noble Earl, Lord Onslow, ...
Earl of Onslow | 698 c1098-9 (Link to this contribution) The amendment is grouped with one of ours. I have been given a signal of two fingers from the other ...
Lord Thomas of Gresford | 698 c1095-8 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 65: 65: Clause 9, page 7, line 5, leave out subsection (1) and insert— ““(1) A...
Earl of Onslow | 698 c1101 (Link to this contribution) If a child has no conception that it has done wrong; if a child cannot comprehend, then punishment c...
Baroness Butler-Sloss | 698 c1101 (Link to this contribution) I certainly would not see a child who did not have the understanding of the allegation made against ...
Lord Judd | 698 c1101-2 (Link to this contribution) I support the amendment with the qualification that most of my reasons for wanting to support it wer...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 698 c1102 (Link to this contribution) Briefly, I support both these amendments. The use of the word ““punishment””, as applied to what you...
Earl of Onslow | 698 c1100 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may interrupt the noble and learned Baroness briefly. With the greatest respect, it is sli...
Baroness Butler-Sloss | 698 c1100-1 (Link to this contribution) Of course, I bow to the noble Earl’s English. He is absolutely right, but it leads me to the point t...
Earl of Listowel | 698 c1104-5 (Link to this contribution) I support the amendment tabled by the noble Earl, Lord Onslow. I welcome the strong emphasis on the ...
Baroness Linklater of Butterstone | 698 c1102-4 (Link to this contribution) I, too, support these amendments. They refer directly back to the important debate we had at the sta...
Lord Bridges | 698 c1105 (Link to this contribution) I follow my noble friend from a rather different angle in supporting the amendment tabled by the nob...
Earl of Onslow | 698 c1109 (Link to this contribution) I take up what the noble Baroness, Lady Linklater, said. In certain circumstances, punishment means ...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 698 c1107 (Link to this contribution) Like the noble Lord, Lord Kingsland, I think this has been a riveting debate and it has been a real ...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 698 c1108 (Link to this contribution) I am not going to comment on the Bulger case. Of course there will be situations in which a child ca...
Earl of Onslow | 698 c1107-8 (Link to this contribution) The more we go on with this, the more I want to come back to what the noble Lord, Lord Ramsbotham, s...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 698 c1108 (Link to this contribution) I mean that people have to face up to the consequences of what they have done through the various sa...
Baroness Linklater of Butterstone | 698 c1108 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Lord for letting me intervene. I just wonder what he means by punishment....
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 698 c1109 (Link to this contribution) I understand that, but there is always a danger that, because in this day and age we are sometimes s...
Lord Judd | 698 c1108-9 (Link to this contribution) Language is important. Sometimes the way in which we use language suggests that the differences are ...
Earl of Listowel | 698 c1112 (Link to this contribution) Could the Minister say when, as a matter of course, as the YOTs are preparing these reports, a clini...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 698 c1109-10 (Link to this contribution) I do not disagree with what the noble Earl said. I hope that I did not give the impression that I si...
Baroness Butler-Sloss | 698 c1111 (Link to this contribution) The Minister will forgive me for interrupting. In family cases and in others, the phrase ““best inte...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 698 c1110-1 (Link to this contribution) We certainly do not want to do that if it will drain my legal aid budget. I accept that clarity is ...
Earl of Onslow | 698 c1110 (Link to this contribution) If we have got any sense, we cannot put into law something that is not crystal clear. All that does ...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 698 c1111 (Link to this contribution) I understand what the noble Lord is getting at. It will be helpful if I reflect on this in the light...
Lord Kingsland | 698 c1111 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord is being interrupted inordinately, but he did make a point about my construction of t...
Lord Hunt of Chesterton | 698 c1111 (Link to this contribution) There would be the intention of producing sentencing council guidelines, which would not be ready be...
Lord Dholakia | 698 c1111 (Link to this contribution) There seems to be a considerable difference of opinion between his understanding of Clause 9 and wha...
Earl of Listowel | 698 c1112 (Link to this contribution) I hear what the Minister says, and I am grateful for his response. I do not know if the noble and le...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 698 c1112 (Link to this contribution) I did not say that. I said that, in view of the comments of the noble Lord, Lord Kingsland, and the ...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 698 c1113 (Link to this contribution) The point that I am making is that the court must have regard to a number of matters. It has to have...
Lord Thomas of Gresford | 698 c1113 (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful to all noble Lords who have taken part in this interesting and crucial debate. I...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 698 c1112 (Link to this contribution) Surely the response is in new Section 142A(3), on the regard that the court must have to the welfare...
Lord Kingsland | 698 c1113 (Link to this contribution) Those are the principles, but these are the purposes of sentencing. It is quite a distinct matter fr...
Earl of Onslow | 698 c1113 (Link to this contribution) Is the noble Lord just about to withdraw his amendment? If so, there is one thing that I would like ...
Lord Thomas of Gresford | 698 c1113 (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful to the noble Earl. He is always very helpful to me.
Lord Judd | 698 c1116 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord has as usual made a powerful contribution, but there are two questions that I hope th...
Lord Thomas of Gresford | 698 c1116 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble and learned Baroness for that intervention. As my noble friend Lady Linkl...
Baroness Butler-Sloss | 698 c1115 (Link to this contribution) The word ““punishment”” is being treated by the noble Lord, as it has been treated by others, as the...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 698 c1115 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord speaks about the past 15 years. The figures between 1997 and now have been pretty sta...
Lord Thomas of Gresford | 698 c1115 (Link to this contribution) I think that I indicated to the noble Lord yesterday that the phrase ““last resort”” had been used o...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 698 c1115 (Link to this contribution) Does the noble Lord accept that this is not about locking people up? Although we have moved on to Pa...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 698 c1133-4 (Link to this contribution) I thought that it was an interesting amendment, and I have a great deal of sympathy with the reasons...
Lord Kingsland | 698 c1134 (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful to the Minister for his reply. I could not have asked for a more constructive res...
Baroness Linklater of Butterstone | 698 c1134-6 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 71: 71: After Clause 9, insert the following new Clause— ““Restrictions on cus...
Lord Judd | 698 c1136-7 (Link to this contribution) moved, as an amendment to Amendment No. 71, Amendment No. 73: 73: After Clause 9, line 3, leave ou...
Lord Ramsbotham | 698 c1137 (Link to this contribution) I am glad that the noble Lord, Lord Judd, with his usual prescience, has raised this threshold to 21...
Lord Judd | 698 c1137 (Link to this contribution) Does the noble Lord agree that the statistic which, to be candid, I gave to the House in the context...
Lord Thomas of Gresford | 698 c1116-7 (Link to this contribution) The second point of the noble Lord was so wide that I was looking for assistance to the right revere...
Earl of Onslow | 698 c1117 (Link to this contribution) had given notice of his intention to move Amendment No. 66: 66: Clause 9, page 7, leave out lines ...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 698 c1117 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move that the House do now resume. I suggest that the Committee not begin again before 8.39...
Lord Kingsland | 698 c1133 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 68: 68: Clause 9, page 7, line 22, after ““of”” insert ““financial compensatio...
Lord Kingsland | 698 c1140 (Link to this contribution) We are most sympathetic to the animating theme which lies behind these amendments, although we have ...
Baroness Butler-Sloss | 698 c1139 (Link to this contribution) To a large extent I support both sets of amendments. I particularly support the amendment that raise...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 698 c1140-1 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may refer to a few of the questions that were raised before I come on to the Government’s ...
Lord Ramsbotham | 698 c1137 (Link to this contribution) I accept that. The noble Lord’s figures emphasise once again the importance of looking at all aspect...
Lord Mayhew of Twysden | 698 c1138-9 (Link to this contribution) I view these amendments with sympathy but not with total acceptance and I would like to say why. In ...
Earl of Listowel | 698 c1137-8 (Link to this contribution) I strongly support the amendment. I shall not repeat what I have already said about this matter, but...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 698 c1138 (Link to this contribution) I will be brief but I have no hesitation in backing both the amendment and the amended amendment. Th...
Baroness Linklater of Butterstone | 698 c1143 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for that. One can nitpick over these things. I suppose that my general argument...
Lord Boston of Faversham | 698 c1143-4 (Link to this contribution) Before I put that request to the Committee, I have to deal with Amendment No. 73. Perhaps I may invi...
Lord Judd | 698 c1144 (Link to this contribution) Amendment No. 72 was withdrawn from the Marshalled List for a technical reason: it was inadvertently...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 698 c1144 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may assist the Committee. The order of withdrawal has to be something like this: Amendment...
Earl of Listowel | 698 c1141 (Link to this contribution) Those given for children in custody over time.
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 698 c1141-3 (Link to this contribution) My assumption is yes, but I will double-check to make sure and let the noble Earl know. Let me turn...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 698 c1143 (Link to this contribution) We discussed this matter yesterday. One of the problems is the way in which some of the offences are...
Earl of Listowel | 698 c1141 (Link to this contribution) Do the figures include the number of children on remand?
Lord Kingsland | 698 c1153 (Link to this contribution) We are most sympathetic to all the arguments deployed in support of the amendments by all those who ...
Baroness Butler-Sloss | 698 c1152 (Link to this contribution) For the reasons given by my noble friend Lord Ramsbotham I strongly support the amendment to Clause ...
Earl of Listowel | 698 c1153 (Link to this contribution) In the Children and Young Persons Bill, the Government introduced a new duty on local authorities to...
Baroness Linklater of Butterstone | 698 c1151-2 (Link to this contribution) My name is attached to the amendment of the noble Lord, Lord Ramsbotham. I gladly support it and him...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 698 c1152 (Link to this contribution) I am a signatory of the amendment tabled by my noble friend Lord Judd. Like my noble friend Lord Ram...
Lord Dholakia | 698 c1148-9 (Link to this contribution) I am delighted to support this amendment. It was a great privilege to be asked by the noble Lord, Lo...
Lord Ramsbotham | 698 c1149-51 (Link to this contribution) In rising to speak to my Amendment No. 119 and also warmly to support the amendments of the noble Lo...
Baroness Linklater of Butterstone | 698 c1144 (Link to this contribution) I beg leave to withdraw Amendment No. 71. Amendment No. 71, by leave, withdrawn.
Lord Judd | 698 c1144-8 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 78: 78: After Clause 9, insert the following new Clause— ““Secure accommodatio...
Lord Judd | 698 c1144 (Link to this contribution) If it helps the Committee, I am pleased at this juncture to say that I beg leave to withdraw my amen...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 698 c1091-2 (Link to this contribution) I am not sure that it is; that is why I am perplexed. I am not sure that would be the case. It is an...
Lord Kingsland | 698 c1091 (Link to this contribution) I hope the noble Lord will forgive me if I say that I found his response somewhat suffocating. The p...
Lord Kingsland | 698 c1092 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 47: 47: Clause 5, page 4, line 12, at end insert ““written”” The noble Lord s...
Lord Kingsland | 698 c1092 (Link to this contribution) I was about to say that I was moving from suffocating to suffocated, but just in time the Minister c...
Lord Kingsland | 698 c1090 (Link to this contribution) On reflection, I am extremely sad that the Committee has been deprived of the noble Lord’s wisdom. P...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 698 c1090 (Link to this contribution) I have a long speech and I was going to give forth, but the noble Lord has given the game away: he i...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 698 c1091 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Lord for moving this more fully than he did his earlier amendment. I have...
Lord Kingsland | 698 c1090 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 45: 45: Clause 5, page 4, line 4, after ““offender’s”” insert ““, or his immed...
Lord Kingsland | 698 c1093 (Link to this contribution) I am always reluctant to fall foul of my honourable and learned friend in another place. If the Gove...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 698 c1092-3 (Link to this contribution) I ought to say at the outset that I understand the noble Lord’s point perfectly well, and given the ...
Baroness Linklater of Butterstone | 698 c1089 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his interesting reply. I had exactly the same thought in my head as the nob...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 698 c1088-9 (Link to this contribution) I am not going to answer directly—and the noble Baroness would not really expect me to be able to co...
Baroness Stern | 698 c1088 (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness, Lady Linklater, mentioned the case of a 13 year-old in a child prison, on breach...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 698 c1087-8 (Link to this contribution) That was an interesting introduction to this question. The noble Baroness raised some interesting po...
Baroness Linklater of Butterstone | 698 c1085-7 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 36: 36: Schedule 2, page 171, line 26, leave out sub-paragraphs (12) to (16) ...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 698 c1085 (Link to this contribution) I am not sure that I can really add to what I said at the beginning in terms of the relationship bet...
Lord Kingsland | 698 c1089-90 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 43: 43: Clause 4, page 3, line 25, leave out subsection (3) The noble Lord sa...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 698 c1089 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 42A: 42A: Clause 4, page 3, line 24, at end insert ““or (as the case may be) a...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 698 c1089 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 42: 42: Schedule 2, page 183, line 26, after ““area”” insert ““or (as the case...
Earl of Listowel | 698 c1073 (Link to this contribution) Does the Minister agree that, generally speaking, building on the professional judgment of those on ...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 698 c1072-3 (Link to this contribution) There has been unanimity of view until now, when it is my turn to speak. This has been a short but i...
Baroness Butler-Sloss | 698 c1071 (Link to this contribution) It will not surprise the Minister that I also, for the reasons that have been given, support this am...
Lord Elystan-Morgan | 698 c1071 (Link to this contribution) I take the same line entirely. I put the obverse argument by asking this question: what earthly gain...
Earl of Onslow | 698 c1071 (Link to this contribution) Again, I must agree with everything that the noble Lord, Lord Ramsbotham, says. Why do this Governme...
Lord Ramsbotham | 698 c1071 (Link to this contribution) I warmly support this amendment, but for a slightly lateral reason. One theme of yesterday’s debates...
Lord Kingsland | 698 c1070-1 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 32: 32: Schedule 2, page 170, line 17, leave out from ““ways”” to end of line ...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 698 c1070 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I beg to move that the House do now again resolve itself into Committee on this Bill. Mov...
Lord Mayhew of Twysden | 698 c1081 (Link to this contribution) What the Minister is arguing would be a good reason for not including in sub-paragraph (4) that, "““...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 698 c1081-2 (Link to this contribution) I am not sure I follow the noble and learned Lord on that. It is clear that the court has to have di...
Lord Judd | 698 c1082 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my noble friend for giving way. What I am about to say must be heard in the context...
Baroness Falkner of Margravine | 698 c1082 (Link to this contribution) I wholeheartedly endorse the comments that have been made across the Committee. It seems to me that ...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 698 c1080-1 (Link to this contribution) We continue the theme of our debates over the two days. I do not disagree with my noble friend Lord ...
Lord Kingsland | 698 c1083 (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful to the noble Lord for giving way. That would place the noble Lord, would it not, ...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 698 c1083 (Link to this contribution) I do not have any evidence to hand but I will certainly see whether I can find any and circulate it ...
Earl of Onslow | 698 c1083 (Link to this contribution) Is the Minister saying that the amendment is unnecessary and that we do it already? If that is the c...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 698 c1083 (Link to this contribution) I think I am saying that. We believe that the courts have sufficient discretion. We have heard from ...
Earl of Onslow | 698 c1084 (Link to this contribution) We have had evidence in the Joint Committee on Human Rights that the level of adults with learning d...
Lord Ramsbotham | 698 c1084 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may expand on that. The speech and language therapist to whom I referred produced evidence...
Earl of Listowel | 698 c1084 (Link to this contribution) In this debate I am reminded of the startling figures of the numbers of children in custody with lea...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 698 c1083 (Link to this contribution) I think that my noble friend asked me to go away and produce an amendment, so I am not sure that it ...
Baroness Stern | 698 c1085 (Link to this contribution) Before the noble Lord sits down, and not wishing to prolong the debate much further, could tell us h...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 698 c1084 (Link to this contribution) This has been an extremely interesting debate. I have no doubt that we will come back to this matter...
Lord Judd | 698 c1084 (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful, as well as being sorry for interrupting. My wording was specifically intended to...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 698 c1073 (Link to this contribution) I very much agree with the noble Earl. We want to build on the skills and expertise of people on the...
Lord Kingsland | 698 c1073-4 (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful to the Minister for his reply, and to all noble Lords who spoke in this short and...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 698 c1074-5 (Link to this contribution) I am happy to respond to the noble Lord. I thought I was being consistent and that my remarks dealt ...
Earl of Onslow | 698 c1075 (Link to this contribution) If I may be so bold as to say so, white man speak with forked tongue. The noble Lord is beginning to...
Lord Elystan-Morgan | 698 c1075 (Link to this contribution) I do not for a moment doubt the sincerity of the Minister in any way. On the contrary, I am sure tha...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 698 c1075-6 (Link to this contribution) I do not like having the noble Lord against me, but I do not believe that the Government are being i...
Lord Kingsland | 698 c1076 (Link to this contribution) I asked the noble Lord whether the situation had changed as a result of your clause, in the context ...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 698 c1076 (Link to this contribution) Yes, of course the situation has changed. The noble Lord’s amendment has force; it is just wrong.
Lord Kingsland | 698 c1076 (Link to this contribution) That is a bold thing for the Minister to say. In all the circumstances, I beg leave to withdraw the ...
Lord Judd | 698 c1077 (Link to this contribution) I support the amendment very positively. The noble Earl has put the argument very well, as indeed di...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 698 c1079 (Link to this contribution) Having listened to the debate and read the amendments, I cannot think of a single reason why the Min...
Lord Ramsbotham | 698 c1079 (Link to this contribution) As we have gone through the Bill, I have mentioned a number of times the fact that we are tackling o...
Lord Judd | 698 c1078-9 (Link to this contribution) On the point about robustness I feel strongly in sympathy with the noble Baroness. Does she agree th...
Baroness Stern | 698 c1079 (Link to this contribution) As ever, I agree wholeheartedly with the noble Lord.
Baroness Butler-Sloss | 698 c1080 (Link to this contribution) I also support the amendment. Part 2, which deals with sentencing and the things to which the court ...
Lord Kingsland | 698 c1080 (Link to this contribution) It will not surprise the Committee to hear that we are also extremely sympathetic to the amendments ...
Earl of Onslow | 698 c1085 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the extraordinary thing about this debate is that there is not an enormous amount of diffe...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 698 c1084-5 (Link to this contribution) I would be interested to know what the noble Lord means by generic. I would like to see it. My gener...
Lord Kingsland | 698 c1106-7 (Link to this contribution) The more I listen to this superb debate, the more I am coming to the conclusion that the right place...
Lord Kingsland | 698 c1112 (Link to this contribution) There was a second issue that I raised about the conformity of Clause 9 with our international oblig...
Lord Thomas of Gresford | 698 c1113-5 (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful to the noble Earl—at least we did not have Genghis Khan this time. The suggestion...
Earl of Onslow | 698 c1076 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 35: 35: Schedule 2, page 170, line 35, at end insert ““, the age of the offend...
Baroness Falkner of Margravine | 698 c1139-40 (Link to this contribution) I will not speak about the amendments of the noble Lord, Lord Judd, on raising the age of the custod...
Baroness Linklater of Butterstone | 698 c1143 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for all the contributions. We know simply that the young offender population has teete...
Earl of Onslow | 698 c1076-7 (Link to this contribution) Good. The amendment concerns sentencing. Those of us on the Joint Committee on Human Rights felt tha...
Lord Judd | 698 c1083-4 (Link to this contribution) I hope that my noble friend will forgive my making one point. I appreciate the fact that he was deal...
Baroness Stern | 698 c1077-8 (Link to this contribution) In supporting the noble Earl, Lord Onslow—I am also a colleague of his on the Joint Committee on Hum...
Notes
Debate in two parts but created here as one record.
Subjects
Children
Criminal proceedings
Children in care
Administration of justice
Death
Age
Alternatives to prison
Custodial treatment
Fines
Probation
Rehabilitation
Sentencing
Young offenders
Reoffenders
Youth rehabilitation orders
Legislation
Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill 2006-07 to 2007-08
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