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Local Transport Bill [Lords]

Debate on bills on Wednesday, 26 March 2008, in the House of Commons, led by Baroness Winterton of Doncaster. The answering member was Theresa Villiers.
Local Transport Bill (HL). Second reading debate. Amendment negatived on division (347 votes to 156). Main question agreed to on question. Programme motion on proceedings in Committee, Report, Third reading and other proceedings agreed to on question. Money resolution agreed to on question. Ways and means resolution agreed to on question. Relevant documents: The Ninth Report from the Transport Committee, Session 2006-07, on the draft Local Transport Bill and the Transport Innovation Fund, HC 692, and the Government's Response, HC 1053.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
474 c190-293 
Session
2007-08
Legislative stage
Second reading
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Proceeding contributions
Norman Baker | 474 c283 (Link to this contribution) There are indeed effective partnerships, but what is the hon. Gentleman's answer for the ineffective...
Stephen Hammond | 474 c283 (Link to this contribution) Clearly, problems in the bus industry need to be addressed. It is absolutely clear that re-regulatio...

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Clive Betts | 474 c283 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman comes from a party that is supposed to favour local democracy and empower local c...
Stephen Hammond | 474 c283 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman talks about localism. My hon. Friend the Member for Chipping Barnet answered that...
Jim Fitzpatrick | 474 c283-4 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Wimbledon (Stephen Hammond), a fellow London MP. We e...
Stephen Hammond | 474 c279-80 (Link to this contribution) May I first put on record my thanks to the Minister for inviting me to a meeting with her officials ...
Rob Marris | 474 c279 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady said earlier today that she and her colleagues will test the relevant clauses strongly...
Rob Marris | 474 c280 (Link to this contribution) You need more central regulation.
Speaker | 474 c288 (Link to this contribution) Order. I ask the Serjeant at Arms to investigate the delay in the Aye Lobby.
Jim Fitzpatrick | 474 c285-8 (Link to this contribution) If my hon. Friend will allow me, I shall make some progress. I will try to give way toward the end o...
Jim Fitzpatrick | 474 c284-5 (Link to this contribution) If my hon. Friend will allow me, I shall make some progress. If I have some time at the end, I shall...
Theresa Villiers | 474 c211-2 (Link to this contribution) Given that so much of the revenue from the London congestion charge is generated by fines, there pro...
Judy Mallaber | 474 c211 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Lady explain to me why she uses the term ““stealth tax””? Nobody could say that a sche...
Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 474 c210-1 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that not for the first time, one of the key problems with the policy is th...
Speaker | 474 c210 (Link to this contribution) Order. The hon. Gentleman must know that an intervention should be brief, not a mini-speech.
Theresa Villiers | 474 c212 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend raises an important point. As ever, he has studied the Bill carefully. The tra...
Greg Knight | 474 c212 (Link to this contribution) Is not my hon. Friend fully justified in using the phrase ““stealth taxes”” in relation to congestio...
Theresa Villiers | 474 c212 (Link to this contribution) I do not see this as an instance of hypothecation. The charges are about transport. They should be d...
Rob Marris | 474 c212 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady is being very generous. Do I understand that the Conservative party now supports hypot...
David Clelland | 474 c215-6 (Link to this contribution) I agree. The Bill does include penalties. The important point is that the penalties should be real, ...
Dari Taylor | 474 c215 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend's point is incredibly valuable. I know of bus services that are cancelled, delayed, t...
David Clelland | 474 c216 (Link to this contribution) Indeed; I confirm that. The north east regional youth assembly and its offshoot called Bus Buddies h...
Roberta Blackman-Woods | 474 c216 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that the young people whom we have met in the north-east have made an extr...
Elfyn Llwyd | 474 c212 (Link to this contribution) The point of the way in which the Bill is framed in the context of the Welsh Assembly, for example, ...
David Clelland | 474 c214-5 (Link to this contribution) I rise to support the Bill and oppose the amendment. My contribution will be brief, but I want to we...
Theresa Villiers | 474 c212-4 (Link to this contribution) I shall come to that clause in a moment. I am astounded that the Bill seeks to water down the requir...
David Clelland | 474 c216 (Link to this contribution) The Minister is indicating that she has met Bus Buddies members, and I am sure that she is as impres...
Norman Baker | 474 c216-7 (Link to this contribution) Let me begin by welcoming the Bill and indicating clearly that my colleagues and I will support its ...
Clive Betts | 474 c221 (Link to this contribution) Can the hon. Gentleman be a bit more precise about what could be done to amend the Bill to cover tha...
Norman Baker | 474 c221-3 (Link to this contribution) That is a fair point and leads me to the approvals board and the arrangements that the Minister desc...
Angela C Smith | 474 c223-7 (Link to this contribution) I intend to be fairly brief, because I fully expected a 10-minute limit on speeches, given the impor...
Roberta Blackman-Woods | 474 c220 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes a number of interesting points. Would he accept, however, that the Bill all...
Norman Baker | 474 c220 (Link to this contribution) I accept that the Bill does that, and that would be an ideal solution. Clearly, it is not in the int...
Greg Knight | 474 c228 (Link to this contribution) The debate has been interesting so far, but I do not buy the synthetic surprise of either the Minist...
Angela C Smith | 474 c227-8 (Link to this contribution) And, of course, Merseyside. Mr. Deputy Speaker, the Bill offers a more rational approach to the del...
Greg Knight | 474 c228-30 (Link to this contribution) I hope that I am always straight with the House. I oppose road pricing, but my opposition is not nec...
Stephen Hesford | 474 c228 (Link to this contribution) If I understand the right hon. Gentleman correctly from his intervention, his main interest is in ro...
Norman Baker | 474 c218 (Link to this contribution) Demographic changes have occurred in other countries as well. There are fantastic successes in bus u...
Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 474 c218 (Link to this contribution) That is a gross distortion of anything that Mrs. Thatcher ever allegedly said. I merely invited the ...
Norman Baker | 474 c217-8 (Link to this contribution) I am happy to write to the hon. Gentleman about that. There has been a decline in both periods. Howe...
Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 474 c218 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is delivering a masterclass in ideological myopia, which we are used to from the ...
Stephen Hammond | 474 c217 (Link to this contribution) For the sake of history and clarity, could the hon. Gentleman tell us the rate of decline between 19...
Norman Baker | 474 c219-20 (Link to this contribution) Yes. I would not want to say that Transport for London is perfect in all aspects, because it certain...
Andrew Gwynne | 474 c219 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes a perfectly good point. Am I correct that that could not happen in London b...
Norman Baker | 474 c218-9 (Link to this contribution) I am afraid that it is, because that is exactly what does happen. It is sometimes even worse than th...
Paul Truswell | 474 c218 (Link to this contribution) Is it not a simple fact that deregulation has failed even on its own narrow, dogmatic terms? In most...
Norman Baker | 474 c218 (Link to this contribution) I entirely agree with the hon. Gentleman's last point. We need to achieve a standard whereby buses a...
Rob Marris | 474 c279 (Link to this contribution) No, because of lack of time. I was not aware that the Conservative party had embraced hypothecation...
Theresa Villiers | 474 c279 (Link to this contribution) It is the Government who have claimed that the money raised will be devoted to local transport proje...
Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 474 c278 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is right: there is unity among Labour Members in terms of their visceral, anti-co...
Rob Marris | 474 c278-9 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman brings me nicely to my next point. The hon. Member for Chipping Barnet said that ...
Rob Marris | 474 c277-8 (Link to this contribution) I welcome the Bill. My constituency contains a metropolitan authority, and I have some interest in t...
Kerry McCarthy | 474 c270-3 (Link to this contribution) Sorry, I did not spot the right hon. Gentleman. His contribution was more than half an hour long, bu...
Lee Scott | 474 c274 (Link to this contribution) I apologise for not being in my place for all of this debate, but I have been serving on the Transpo...
Judy Mallaber | 474 c274-7 (Link to this contribution) I very much welcome the Bill and am pleased to have an opportunity to take part in the debate. I was...
David Jones | 474 c270 (Link to this contribution) It certainly would be the case that Wales was used as a guinea pig. The simple fact remains that Wel...
Kerry McCarthy | 474 c270 (Link to this contribution) I am glad finally to have the opportunity to speak in this debate, and I am glad that my getting to ...
Norman Baker | 474 c269-70 (Link to this contribution) I would like to question whether Wales is a guinea pig. The issue in question is that the National A...
David Jones | 474 c267-9 (Link to this contribution) First, I apologise for not having been here for the opening speeches; unfortunately, I have been eng...
Cheryl Gillan | 474 c269 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that if the clauses on Wales were altered in such a way that they pertaine...
Stephen Hesford | 474 c263-7 (Link to this contribution) I begin by declaring an interest over and above the fact that I legitimately represent my constituen...
Speaker | 474 c267 (Link to this contribution) Order. I inform hon. Members that Front-Bench speeches are due to start at 6.30 pm. Quite a few Memb...
David Jones | 474 c269 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is quite right. Not only did that Minister make no mention of the M4 when he came to ...
Clive Betts | 474 c258-60 (Link to this contribution) I do not believe that any authority has been forced to adopt any particular scheme, although there i...
Paul Rowen | 474 c260-3 (Link to this contribution) May I apologise for missing the start of the debate, Madam Deputy Speaker? I had another meeting to ...
Speaker | 474 c258 (Link to this contribution) Order. I do not think that the hon. Gentleman was in the Chamber earlier when I said that I was not ...
Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 474 c258 (Link to this contribution) Forgive me, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I was engaged in other duties involving a statutory instrument, so I...
Stephen Hesford | 474 c253 (Link to this contribution) How many letters on this subject has the hon. Gentleman received from his constituents?
Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 474 c253-4 (Link to this contribution) I have received a number of representations, particularly from the Millfield and New England areas o...
Clive Betts | 474 c254-6 (Link to this contribution) I will concentrate my remarks on the contents of the Bill with regard to local bus services, and bri...
Theresa Villiers | 474 c256 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman clearly sees regulation as the solution to those problems, but we had the problem...
Clive Betts | 474 c256-8 (Link to this contribution) I would be interested to hear what solution the hon. Lady proposes if regulation is not the answer, ...
Paul Truswell | 474 c246-50 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to follow most of the contributions to the debate, and particularly pleasurable eve...
Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 474 c251-3 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Pudsey (Mr. Truswell), who always makes an interestin...
Paul Rowen | 474 c240 (Link to this contribution) I have listened to what the hon. Gentleman said, and I am grateful for what he has done. Does he not...
Graham Stringer | 474 c240 (Link to this contribution) No, I intend to vote for the Bill, because as I said in my opening remarks, it contains many good th...
Elfyn Llwyd | 474 c243-6 (Link to this contribution) First, I wish to say how much I enjoyed the speech of the hon. Member for Manchester, Blackley (Grah...
Graham Stringer | 474 c242-3 (Link to this contribution) As I understand it, the registration restrictions are part of the answer to the problem that I outli...
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 474 c242 (Link to this contribution) I just want a bit of clarification. As I said in my speech, the important thing about the Bill is th...
Paul Rowen | 474 c242 (Link to this contribution) On quality partnerships, does the hon. Gentleman not accept that the Government have made two stabs ...
Graham Stringer | 474 c241-2 (Link to this contribution) This is worrying progress that we are making. If the hon. Gentleman reads the Transport Committee's ...
Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 474 c241 (Link to this contribution) I find myself agreeing with the hon. Gentleman, because he is making a plausible and persuasive case...
Graham Stringer | 474 c240-1 (Link to this contribution) I accept the point that the hon. Gentleman makes. Of course, Bury would have representation and woul...
Greg Knight | 474 c239 (Link to this contribution) In the light of the hon. Gentleman's assessment of the Bill, does he intend to vote against it?
Graham Stringer | 474 c236 (Link to this contribution) That may well be the case, but it may also be due to the fact that Conservative Members have a long ...
Graham Stringer | 474 c237 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman thinks he has made a clever intervention, but it is clear that the Conservative G...
Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 474 c237 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman seems to be stuck in a time warp. He is a Labour Member with a Labour-controlled ...
Graham Stringer | 474 c238-9 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes an acute observation about how the Conservatives behave. What happened when th...
Paul Truswell | 474 c238 (Link to this contribution) Is not the attitude espoused by the hon. Member for Peterborough (Mr. Jackson) typical of his party,...
Graham Stringer | 474 c237 (Link to this contribution) I should be delighted to allow the hon. Lady to dig a deeper ditch for herself.
Graham Stringer | 474 c237 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady fails to recognise that when factors such as subsidy and density of population are dis...
Theresa Villiers | 474 c237 (Link to this contribution) Throughout my speech, when challenged on this point—as I was on a number of occasions—I made it clea...
Graham Stringer | 474 c236 (Link to this contribution) It is very early in my speech for me to give way, but I will do so.
Christopher Chope | 474 c236 (Link to this contribution) Might not the lack of interest to which the hon. Gentleman has referred be due to the fact that so m...
Christopher Chope | 474 c236 (Link to this contribution) Would my right hon. Friend also have welcomed the restoration of the national 85th percentile in rel...
Greg Knight | 474 c236 (Link to this contribution) I am nearing the end of my speech, but with some reluctance I will give way.
Christopher Chope | 474 c236 (Link to this contribution) Will my right hon. Friend give way?
Greg Knight | 474 c234-6 (Link to this contribution) It could do to a point. There is a difficulty the further back we go. I think that before 2001, manu...
Graham Stringer | 474 c236 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Member for East Yorkshire (Mr. Knight) did an extremely good and lengthy job of obscu...
Greg Knight | 474 c236 (Link to this contribution) I certainly think that that should be debated, and we may be given an opportunity to do so if the Bi...
Elfyn Llwyd | 474 c233 (Link to this contribution) With great respect, the answer is in the Bill. It says that any income thereby derived would be hypo...
Greg Knight | 474 c233-4 (Link to this contribution) No, that does not answer the question. The hon. Gentleman has missed the point completely. The cost ...
Norman Baker | 474 c234 (Link to this contribution) Does the right hon. Gentleman agree that such a scheme could also be devised to take account of the ...
Speaker | 474 c231 (Link to this contribution) Order. I am aware that the right hon. Gentleman is not referring to anyone in particular, but I am n...
Greg Knight | 474 c230-1 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right. The Government should also have made more of their pledge to...
Andrew Gwynne | 474 c232 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman is making an interesting case, but can he outline precisely what coercion t...
Greg Knight | 474 c231-2 (Link to this contribution) Let us say ““under coercion””—the Department for Transport, no doubt with the approval of Ministers,...
Greg Knight | 474 c232-3 (Link to this contribution) This might surprise the hon. Gentleman, but I am not privy to the policy group meetings of Tameside ...
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 474 c191 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right to point in particular to some of the integrated transport schemes that have...
Claire Curtis-Thomas | 474 c191 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend will know that Merseytravel is now the most successful rail operator in the cou...
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 474 c191 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right to highlight South Yorkshire as an exemplar of good public transport provisi...
Speaker | 474 c190 (Link to this contribution) I inform the House that I have selected the amendment in the name of the hon. Member for Chipping Ba...
Angela C Smith | 474 c191 (Link to this contribution) Will my right hon. Friend join me in congratulating South Yorkshire and West Yorkshire on not just g...
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 474 c190 (Link to this contribution) I am not sure why the hon. Gentleman is bringing the OFT into this. I think he is referring to the n...
Andrew Turner | 474 c190 (Link to this contribution) We on the island are hopeful that the Office of Fair Trading will be persuaded to look into market f...
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 474 c190 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time. May I give the apologies of my right hon. F...
Norman Baker | 474 c191 (Link to this contribution) As the Minister knows, the Liberal Democrats will probably support the Bill, but may I take up the p...
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 474 c191 (Link to this contribution) I shall give way to the hon. Gentleman first and come back to my hon. Friend.
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 474 c191 (Link to this contribution) Clearly we are revisiting last night's debate. As I have said, about £1 billion will be invested in ...
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 474 c192 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend has highlighted three points: the way in which the Bill will improve bus services, th...
Roberta Blackman-Woods | 474 c192 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister confirm that the Bill will allow local authorities such as Durham county council t...
Theresa Villiers | 474 c205 (Link to this contribution) There are many differences between the London example and the rest of the country. It is clear that ...
Graham Stringer | 474 c205 (Link to this contribution) I listened carefully to the answer given by the hon. Lady. The Select Committee on Transport has pro...
Clive Efford | 474 c205 (Link to this contribution) I do not doubt that the hon. Lady values buses, but unfortunately her hon. Friends do not. She could...
Clive Betts | 474 c205 (Link to this contribution) I want to get this right. The hon. Lady has said that there is no causal relationship between the re...
Theresa Villiers | 474 c205-6 (Link to this contribution) As I said, we have no plans to change the regulatory system in London. I turn now to the Bill itsel...
Theresa Villiers | 474 c205 (Link to this contribution) I assure the hon. Gentleman that we have no plans to change the system in the capital, where special...
Rob Marris | 474 c206 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady seemed to suggest that competition needs to be somewhat regulated in the interests of ...
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 474 c201-2 (Link to this contribution) Absolutely. My hon. Friend is quite right. I should add again that when I have visited local areas a...
Roberta Blackman-Woods | 474 c202 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my right hon. Friend the Minister, who is being very generous in giving way. Under ...
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 474 c202-3 (Link to this contribution) What we have said is that we want local authorities themselves to consider what will work best. We w...
Greg Knight | 474 c203 (Link to this contribution) In 2005, the Labour party manifesto stated that, if re-elected, the Labour Government would move awa...
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 474 c203 (Link to this contribution) The Bill is not about a national road pricing scheme. It is about local road pricing schemes, if loc...
Mark Hunter | 474 c203 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for giving way; she continues to be very generous with her time. She says that ...
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 474 c203-4 (Link to this contribution) Obviously, the discussions about the Manchester transport innovation fund bid are still going on, an...
Theresa Villiers | 474 c204 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move,"That this House declines to give a Second Reading to the Local Transport Bill [Lords]...
Angela C Smith | 474 c204 (Link to this contribution) Given what the hon. Lady has just said, and given that her party leader is in favour of improving bu...
Theresa Villiers | 474 c204 (Link to this contribution) We have tabled the amendment because we do not believe that the Bill is the best way to improve loca...
Clive Betts | 474 c209 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Lady for giving way again. Let us look at the issue in a slightly different way. My...
Theresa Villiers | 474 c209 (Link to this contribution) It does not conflict. The hon. Gentleman misunderstands localism, which does not always mean devolvi...
Rob Marris | 474 c208 (Link to this contribution) If I understand the hon. Lady's argument on London and other metropolitan areas—I represent a seat i...
Theresa Villiers | 474 c208-9 (Link to this contribution) What I am saying is that introducing the regulatory system applicable in London to the rest of the c...
Theresa Villiers | 474 c208 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Lady looks at the figures, she will see that the steepest fall in bus ridership occurred...
Andrew Gwynne | 474 c210 (Link to this contribution) A moment ago the hon. Lady spoke about transport authorities that had taken tough decisions to get q...
Theresa Villiers | 474 c209-10 (Link to this contribution) No, I will make progress now. Close partnership working in Brighton delivered a 5 per cent. year-on-...
Norman Baker | 474 c209 (Link to this contribution) What representations on the Bill has the hon. Lady received from local Conservative councillors, and...
Theresa Villiers | 474 c209 (Link to this contribution) I have had many representations on the Bill from a number of groups, including Conservative councill...
Theresa Villiers | 474 c207 (Link to this contribution) In one moment. I believe that, overall, the investment stimulus, innovation and entrepreneurial skil...
Theresa Villiers | 474 c208 (Link to this contribution) There is no change in policy. Our policy on bus services in London has been consistent.
Judy Mallaber | 474 c208 (Link to this contribution) Did the hon. Lady not hear the intervention made by my hon. Friend the Member for Manchester, Blackl...
Theresa Villiers | 474 c208 (Link to this contribution) We are not supporting that because we do not believe that quality contracts will deliver the service...
Paul Truswell | 474 c208 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Lady answer the simple question that has been asked several times by Labour Members: i...
Theresa Villiers | 474 c208 (Link to this contribution) What I have said repeatedly is that the increase in ridership in London is not due to the regulatory...
Angela C Smith | 474 c208 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Lady for giving way; she is very generous with her time. Do I detect a change in Op...
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 474 c195 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right, and her comments show that she is in touch with the needs of her constituen...
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 474 c195 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friends said it all. If the hon. Lady thinks that the current situation is perfect, I do not...
Baroness Keeley | 474 c195 (Link to this contribution) I agree with the Minister, and I want to see how we can move forward from this position. I have deli...
Elfyn Llwyd | 474 c194-5 (Link to this contribution) What the Minister says is right, and I have seen the improvement in my constituency. Some 10 days ag...
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 474 c194 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right, and I thank him for the work that he did in the Transport Committee, scruti...
Clive Efford | 474 c194 (Link to this contribution) The Government have been getting it in the neck from both local government and the private sector, w...
Theresa Villiers | 474 c195 (Link to this contribution) Does the Minister agree that the major bus success stories in the country have been brought about by...
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 474 c195 (Link to this contribution) I shall give way to the hon. Lady, but then I ought to move on.
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 474 c195 (Link to this contribution) How we deliver the bus service operators grant in future is important, and that is open to consultat...
David Chaytor | 474 c193 (Link to this contribution) The concessionary fares scheme for elderly people has been enormously successful and popular. Does t...
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 474 c193 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend reinforces the point that without a Labour Government there would not have been a nat...
Lord Bellingham | 474 c194 (Link to this contribution) The Minister mentions rural areas, but what is her view of the EU driving times and rest periods dir...
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 474 c194 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman would do well to remember that that measure was brought in on safety grounds. We ...
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 474 c192 (Link to this contribution) I know that what I am about to say will interest my hon. Friend the Member for Preston (Mr. Hendrick...
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 474 c192 (Link to this contribution) There are instances in which it has not been in the public interest to provide services that do not ...
Mark Hendrick | 474 c192 (Link to this contribution) I thank my right hon. Friend for visiting Preston recently to observe and discuss its Civitas progra...
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 474 c193 (Link to this contribution) That is an interesting comment, because I understand from it that the hon. Lady believes that the in...
Theresa Villiers | 474 c193 (Link to this contribution) If the Minister is so strongly opposed to the deregulated system that the Government inherited from ...
Andrew Gwynne | 474 c201 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend makes a very important point that goes back to what she was saying about the ne...
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 474 c200-1 (Link to this contribution) If we want to be absolutely sure that the route will mean that it will be more difficult to go to ju...
Norman Baker | 474 c200 (Link to this contribution) I understand the Minister's desire to ensure that there is a robust system in place to prevent unnec...
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 474 c200 (Link to this contribution) It will not be for an approvals board to design a system for a local area. The board will consider t...
Clive Betts | 474 c200 (Link to this contribution) I entirely accept that if an approvals board agrees with the passenger transport authority that qual...
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 474 c199-200 (Link to this contribution) We do not envisage that the process would involve a straight yes or no. It could be iterative. We wo...
Clive Betts | 474 c199 (Link to this contribution) That point goes to the heart of an important issue. I listened very carefully to what my right hon. ...
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 474 c197-9 (Link to this contribution) It is rare that my speeches are greeted with standing ovations, but when I spoke to the Community Tr...
Judy Mallaber | 474 c197 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend mentioned community transport. What estimate has she made of the potential impa...
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 474 c197 (Link to this contribution) As I said earlier, there were powers in the Transport Act 2000 to allow the making of quality contra...
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 474 c197 (Link to this contribution) I will address that particular point when I move on to some of the details of the Bill, but I unders...
Mark Hunter | 474 c197 (Link to this contribution) I share the Minister's surprise that the Conservatives have apparently decided to vote against Secon...
Paul Truswell | 474 c196-7 (Link to this contribution) Further to the comments by the hon. Member for Chipping Barnet (Mrs. Villiers), is it not the case t...
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 474 c196 (Link to this contribution) I shall come back to the hon. Gentleman in a minute. The Bill is a direct response to what local au...
John Grogan | 474 c197 (Link to this contribution) May I tempt my right hon. Friend to go a little further? Is there not a case for giving excellent tr...
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 474 c197 (Link to this contribution) There are several instances in which voluntary agreements have been reached, but my hon. Friend is r...
Alan Whitehead | 474 c196 (Link to this contribution) Is the Minister aware of the existence of an inter-authority organisation called the Partnership for...
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 474 c196 (Link to this contribution) Again, my hon. Friend makes an important point. I know from my visits around the country that politi...
Theresa Villiers | 474 c211 (Link to this contribution) I take it that my hon. Friend is referring to the concessionary fares scheme. It is a particular con...
Graham Stringer | 474 c242 (Link to this contribution) Yes, I do. That is the point that I am coming to. It will be difficult to make quality partnerships ...
Norman Baker | 474 c230 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman is making a sensible contribution. Does he agree that the Government failed...
Theresa Villiers | 474 c207 (Link to this contribution) No. I believe that the Barnsley road example illustrates the fact that it is voluntary partnerships ...
Stephen Hammond | 474 c280-3 (Link to this contribution) No, I do not want regional authorities to be involved. The hon. Member for Wirral, West (Stephen He...
Theresa Villiers | 474 c210 (Link to this contribution) That takes me on to my next point. Some of the changes proposed in the Bill in relation to the struc...
Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 474 c258 (Link to this contribution) I am listening to the hon. Gentleman's speech with great interest. He is obviously passionate about ...
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 474 c192 (Link to this contribution) I must give way first to my hon. Friend the Member for City of Durham (Dr. Blackman-Woods).
Angela C Smith | 474 c206 (Link to this contribution) I represent part of the city of Sheffield, and I draw the hon. Lady's attention to the fact that it ...
Theresa Villiers | 474 c206 (Link to this contribution) We are saying that some competition laws get in the way of the effective provision of better service...
Roberta Blackman-Woods | 474 c207 (Link to this contribution) I must confess that I am struggling to follow the logic of the argument. Quality contracts have ofte...
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 474 c195 (Link to this contribution) I shall give way first to my hon. Friend the Member for Southampton, Test (Dr. Whitehead).
Clive Efford | 474 c285 (Link to this contribution) Will my hon. Friend the Minister give way?
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