Parliamentary search - Compensation Bill [HL]

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Parliamentary proceeding

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677 c291-344GC

Session

2005-06

Department

Department for Constitutional Affairs
Committee of the Whole House (HL)

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords Grand Committee

Compensation Bill (HL). Explanatory notes HL Bill 35-EN also published
Wednesday, 2 November 2005
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House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c304GC (Link to this contribution) I would not want the noble Lord to think for one minute that the issues that he raises do not help u...

Viscount Eccles | 677 c295GC (Link to this contribution) I support the argument put by the noble Lord, Lord Goodhart. I raised the question of the Office of ...

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Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c344GC (Link to this contribution) The key, of course, is when we are going to see government amendments. We welcome the way in which t...

Viscount Eccles | 677 c343GC (Link to this contribution) Before the Minister replies, I think there are seven affirmative statutory instruments at the moment...

Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c343-4GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for the noble Viscount’s caution. Perhaps he should have given me that advice before I...

Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c340-1GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Lord for putting so well what I might be able to offer the Committee. How...

Viscount Eccles | 677 c339GC (Link to this contribution) On several occasions during this Committee session the Minister has used the word ““flexibility””. O...

Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c327GC (Link to this contribution) As the noble Lord, Lord Goodhart, said, we discussed this matter at Second Reading, and the noble Lo...

Lord Goodhart | 677 c325-6GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 56:"Page 4, line 6, leave out subsection (2)." The noble Lord said: Subsection ...

Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c325GC (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful to the Minister for her approach to the amendment, and in the circumstances I sha...

Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c312-3GC (Link to this contribution) I do not know whether any specific studies have been done, but it is part of what I have been discus...

Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c299GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 42:"Page 2, line 47, at end insert ““but not in such a way as to advertise those...

Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c300GC (Link to this contribution) What more can I add? I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. [Amend...

Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c300-2GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 44:"Page 3, line 6, at end insert ““, and" (d) will promote the wider concep...

Lord Goodhart | 677 c294GC (Link to this contribution) Amendment No. 43 in this group is in my name. Its purpose is to remove from the Bill one of the spec...

Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c291-4GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 41: Page 2, line 44, leave out paragraph (c) and insert— ““(c) will protect...

Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c297-8GC (Link to this contribution) I shall just say a little bit more about the case, which was a Dutch case that concerned the Dutch B...

Lord Goodhart | 677 c297GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister, but could she explain in more detail the decision of the European Cou...

Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c344GC (Link to this contribution) Of course, I accept all that the noble Baroness has said. We have great expectations. I beg leave to...

Lord Goodhart | 677 c336GC (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful to the Minister for what she has said. It goes a considerable way to satisfy the ...

Lord Goodhart | 677 c331-3GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 63:"Page 4, line 31, leave out subsections (3) to (5)." The noble Lord said: In...

Baroness Fookes | 677 c333GC (Link to this contribution) I remind the Committee that, if Amendment No. 63 is agreed, I cannot call Amendments Nos. 64 or 65 b...

Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c328GC (Link to this contribution) I just wanted to give a couple of hypothetical examples. One would be if a charity was told that the...

Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c326-7GC (Link to this contribution) I strongly support the noble Lord’s amendment. As he explained, the subsection creates a defence for...

Viscount Eccles | 677 c323-4GC (Link to this contribution) I support my noble friend Lord Hunt. There could be a problem if you regulate on the basis of drawin...

Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c321-2GC (Link to this contribution) In relation to Amendment No. 53, I was describing to the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, the implications of ...

Lord Goodhart | 677 c317-8GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 52:"Page 3, line 33, leave out ““The Secretary of State may by order provide tha...

Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c312GC (Link to this contribution) It was interesting to read the figures of the various sectors. In each case, the number anticipated ...

Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c311-2GC (Link to this contribution) I shall certainly try. Mr Boleat said that he thought that the figures that we had worked out for £1...

Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c308-9GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 49:"Page 3, line 20, leave out subsection (5)." The noble Lord said: The amendm...

Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c309-10GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Lord for enabling me to discuss with the Committee some of the issues aro...

Viscount Allenby of Megiddo | 677 c305GC (Link to this contribution) A Division has been called. We shall reassemble at 4.41 pm. [The Sitting was suspended for a Divisi...

Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c298-9GC (Link to this contribution) This has been an interesting debate; indeed, it has almost been two separate debates. The debate ini...

Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c303-4GC (Link to this contribution) This has been a valuable debate and I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Goodhart, for his support....

Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c304GC (Link to this contribution) I find that intervention extremely valuable. In those circumstances, points have been made and I beg...

Lord Goodhart | 677 c302GC (Link to this contribution) I am very happy to concur with what the noble Lord, Lord Hunt of Wirral, has just said. It is a matt...

Lord Goodhart | 677 c298GC (Link to this contribution) I find the European judgment somewhat obscure at present. If the Minister is right that the suggesti...

Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c295-7GC (Link to this contribution) I begin with the amendment of the noble Lord, Lord Hunt of Wirral. I am very grateful to him for exp...

Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c342GC (Link to this contribution) I am very happy to do so in those circumstances. I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment, ...

Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c342-3GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 76A:"Page 7, line 12, at end insert ““but such order shall be made not later tha...

Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c339-40GC (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful to the noble Baroness. Last week her commitment was to share a draft. I emphasise...

Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c339GC (Link to this contribution) I am interested to see that the noble Viscount, Lord Eccles, returns again to his theme of unintende...

Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c337-8GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 66:"Page 5, line 4, leave out ““may”” and insert ““shall””" The noble Lord said...

Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c334-6GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to noble Lords for raising these issues. As well as being busy, the Department of Cons...

Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c329-30GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 57:"Page 4, line 13, leave out sub-paragraph (i)." The noble Lord said: In movi...

Lord Goodhart | 677 c328-9GC (Link to this contribution) I am afraid that on this occasion I am not satisfied with the Minister’s arguments. The principle th...

Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c331GC (Link to this contribution) The approved person regime is run by the FSA. I have said before that the FSA model gives us a great...

Viscount Eccles | 677 c330GC (Link to this contribution) I support my noble friend Lord Hunt. It seems disproportionate to include prison sentences in these ...

Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c330GC (Link to this contribution) I appreciate the concern of the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, about enforcement and the need to ensure that...

Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c327-8GC (Link to this contribution) The Minister seems to have paused for a moment. Could some words not be inserted into the provision ...

Viscount Eccles | 677 c319-20GC (Link to this contribution) In pursuing this subject, at some point we should arrive at a reasonably exhaustive list of what bod...

Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c318-9GC (Link to this contribution) It is for the convenience of the Committee that we take Amendment No. 53, which stands in my name, w...

Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c324-5GC (Link to this contribution) In response to the issue raised by the noble Viscount, we will seek to provide in the regulations as...

Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c320-1GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to all three noble Lords for raising an important part of our discussions: how best to...

Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c317GC (Link to this contribution) In the circumstances, I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. [Amen...

Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c316-7GC (Link to this contribution) I will be delighted to do that. I am grateful to the noble Lord for giving me the opportunity to do ...

Viscount Eccles | 677 c313-4GC (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may offer a little prediction. I am very doubtful about whether the Bill will change the s...

Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c306-7GC (Link to this contribution) I am not sure that I can follow that. However, I shall, as always, try. I looked at this because, li...

Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c306GC (Link to this contribution) We assume that there will be certain targets, whether implicit or explicit, public or private, and t...

Lord Goodhart | 677 c307GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister. On Amendment No. 46, we are talking not about the actual results but ...

Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c302-3GC (Link to this contribution) This is a very interesting debate. I spent a good few years as a director of Business in the Communi...

Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c299-300GC (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord and I are in complete agreement on the role of the regulator—namely, that the regulat...

Viscount Allenby of Megiddo | 677 c294GC (Link to this contribution) I have to inform the Committee that, if this amendment were to be agreed, under the pre-emption rule...

Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 677 c344GC (Link to this contribution) This may be a convenient time for the Committee to adjourn until Wednesday at 3.30 pm.

Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c344GC (Link to this contribution) My point about business management is that in order to get this Bill into another place and through ...

Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c341GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 75A:"Page 6, line 28, leave out paragraph (a)." The noble Lord said: This provi...

Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c341-2GC (Link to this contribution) I absolutely understand what the noble Lord is saying about the apparent breadth of this provision, ...

Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c336GC (Link to this contribution) We will ensure that noble Lords have sight of the amendments in good time so that they can table the...

Lord Goodhart | 677 c336GC (Link to this contribution) In these amendments, there are a number of matters that ought to go on to the face of the Bill or in...

Lord Goodhart | 677 c338-9GC (Link to this contribution) Some time ago, I promised myself that I would never allow myself to become involved in one of the nu...

Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c333-4GC (Link to this contribution) These are important amendments and I look forward to the Minister’s response. For the sake of comple...

Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c322-3GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 55:"Page 3, line 36, leave out subsection (2) and insert—" ““(2) The Secreta...

Lord Goodhart | 677 c322GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister. I welcome the statement that she has made about what the Government i...

Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c310-1GC (Link to this contribution) It would be very helpful if the Minister could give a little detail about the two separate figures o...

Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c315-6GC (Link to this contribution) This is becoming a fascinating debate. It is vitally important that if public money is to be utilise...

Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c314-5GC (Link to this contribution) The noble Viscount raises some valuable points. It is probably worth saying that most personal injur...

Viscount Allenby of Megiddo | 677 c305GC (Link to this contribution) I have to inform the Committee that if this amendment were agreed to, I would not be able to call Am...

Lord Goodhart | 677 c304-5GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 46:"Page 3, line 16, leave out paragraph (d)." The noble Lord said: In moving A...

Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c305GC (Link to this contribution) That is a good reason why I should speak to Amendment No. 47. I seek to omit the very words that the...

Lord Goodhart | 677 c307-8GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 48:"Page 3, line 19, at end insert—" ““( ) The Secretary of State shall la...

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