Equality Bill (HL)

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Wednesday, 13 July 2005, in the House of Lords.

Equality Bill (HL). Lords committee stage third day. Clauses 44 to 93 agreed to. Clauses 50, 52, 53, 54, 55, 75 and 78 as amended agreed to. Schedule 4 agreed to. New clauses considered. Bill reported with amendments. (HL Bill 17 2005-06).

Type

Parliamentary proceeding

Reference

673 c1105-170, 1182-208

Session

2005-06

Department

Department for Constitutional Affairs

Legislative stage

Committee stage

Procedure

New clauses

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords chamber

Equality Bill (HL). Explanatory Notes HL Bill 2-EN also published
Wednesday, 18 May 2005
Bills
House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Baroness Miller of Hendon | 673 c1106 (Link to this contribution) I have some sympathy with the noble Baroness over her Amendments Nos. 168 and 210. Like her, we are ...

Lord Brabazon of Tara | 673 c1106 (Link to this contribution) I must apologise to the House. I should have pointed out that if this amendment were agreed to, I wo...

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Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 673 c1106 (Link to this contribution) I always feel depressed when I say anything in which I disagree with the noble Baroness, Lady Turner...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1106-8 (Link to this contribution) First, I am grateful to my noble friend Lady Turner of Camden for putting forward Amendments Nos. 16...

Baroness Greengross | 673 c1110-1 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 169A:"After Clause 45, insert the following new clause—" ““AGE In this P...

Baroness Miller of Hendon | 673 c1110 (Link to this contribution) I shall certainly withdraw the amendment in a moment, but whether I shall feel content about it is a...

Baroness Miller of Hendon | 673 c1108-9 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 169:"Page 25, line 22, after ““or”” insert ““similar””" The noble Baroness said...

Baroness Turner of Camden | 673 c1108 (Link to this contribution) I thank my noble friend for that comprehensive answer. The briefing that I had from the British Huma...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1109-10 (Link to this contribution) I am now in the happy position that I have at last given pleasure to the noble Lord, Lord Lester, an...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 673 c1109 (Link to this contribution) I find it equally difficult ever to say anything in disagreement with the noble Baroness, Lady Mille...

Baroness Turner of Camden | 673 c1112-3 (Link to this contribution) I am by no means certain that current legislation protects transgender people from discrimination. I...

Baroness Greengross | 673 c1112 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Duke for that question. To be honest, I am not sure because I come to this from th...

Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 673 c1112 (Link to this contribution) I know that the noble Baroness seeks commitment from the Government. I understand that very well and...

Duke of Montrose | 673 c1111-2 (Link to this contribution) Will the noble Baroness clarify her concern about the people who are affected by these transgender r...

Earl Ferrers | 673 c1115 (Link to this contribution) Would the noble Baroness be kind enough to explain that a little further? She said that there was no...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1114-5 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Greengross, for raising the issue, and all Members of the Committee...

Earl Ferrers | 673 c1114 (Link to this contribution) I agree with the noble Lord, Lord Lester of Herne Hill, on the courteous and gently probing way in...

Baroness O'Cathain | 673 c1113-4 (Link to this contribution) I strongly oppose the amendments because they would massively complicate a controversial area of law...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 673 c1113 (Link to this contribution) My view is that all those areas of unfair treatment ought to be covered in a single Equality Bill. I...

Baroness Turner of Camden | 673 c1105-6 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 168:"Page 25, line 22, leave out ““means any religious or philosophical belief””...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1105 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, on behalf of my noble and learned friend Lord Falconer of Thoroton I beg to move that the ...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1161 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 197:"Page 32, line 31, leave out ““or”” and insert ““other than section 48, or b...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1161-2 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 198:"Page 33, line 28, leave out paragraph (a)." The noble Baroness said: In mo...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1160-1 (Link to this contribution) I said that there has not been an opportunity for extended consultation. I do not know whether the n...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1161 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendments Nos. 194 to 196:"Page 32, line 21, at end insert ““(but this exception does not hav...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1162 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendments Nos. 199 and 200:"Page 33, line 34, leave out ““or harassment””.""Page 33, line 35,...

Baroness O'Cathain | 673 c1162-3 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 200A:"Page 35, line 16, leave out ““or main””" The noble Baroness said: Clause ...

Baroness Miller of Hendon | 673 c1160 (Link to this contribution) Just to make sure that I understood the Minister correctly, I think that, when she first responded, ...

Baroness Miller of Hendon | 673 c1159-60 (Link to this contribution) Concerns have been expressed to me about whether these provisions might be used as a weapon by disgr...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 673 c1159 (Link to this contribution) We welcome these amendments.

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 673 c1155 (Link to this contribution) I want to answer the question put to me before the noble Baroness ends her important remarks. When t...

Baroness O'Cathain | 673 c1155-6 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Lord. Of course I understand the obligation to obey the law of the land, but there...

Lord Dholakia | 673 c1156-7 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 192:"Page 32, line 8, leave out paragraph (f)." The noble Lord said: The amendm...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 673 c1157-8 (Link to this contribution) I wish to add a few words to those of my noble friend, because the amendment raises a serious matter...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1158-9 (Link to this contribution) I should say straight away that I am grateful to the noble Lords, Lord Dholakia and Lord Lester, f...

Lord Dholakia | 673 c1159 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for the explanation she has given. There is ample time between now and Report, ...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1159 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 193:"Page 32, line 18, at end insert ““(but this exception does not have effect ...

Baroness O'Cathain | 673 c1154-5 (Link to this contribution) I sincerely thank all Members of the Committee who contributed to the debate. I particularly thank t...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1154 (Link to this contribution) There are the Employment Equality (Religion or Belief) Regulations, which should preserve the opport...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 673 c1169 (Link to this contribution) Am I right in thinking that the noble Baroness does not agree with the right reverend Prelate, who s...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 673 c1168 (Link to this contribution) In a game of chess, if not here, a rook and a bishop are of equal value as pieces on the board, and ...

Bishop of Newcastle | 673 c1168 (Link to this contribution) I agree with the noble Lord, Lord Lester, that a sense of proportion is central to the Christian fai...

Baroness Whitaker | 673 c1168 (Link to this contribution) I support these amendments because, perhaps more than ever now, we need to preserve the tolerant and...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1168-9 (Link to this contribution) The amendments in this group attempt to restrict in various ways—I understand why—the exceptions tha...

Baroness Turner of Camden | 673 c1165-6 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 201:"Page 35, line 23, at end insert ““but only in so far as these activities ar...

Baroness O'Cathain | 673 c1165 (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful to the noble Baroness. It has been useful to probe the matter to see what Clause ...

Bishop of Newcastle | 673 c1167-8 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Turner, and the noble Lord, Lord Lester, for their comments. I shal...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 673 c1166-7 (Link to this contribution) My name is added to the amendment and I will speak also to Amendments Nos. 203, 205 and 207 in my ...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1163-5 (Link to this contribution) Amendment No. 200A raises again the difficult balancing act between protecting individuals from disc...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1143 (Link to this contribution) I understand the noble Lord’s concern about the unfilled places in faith schools and his intent that...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 673 c1142-3 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 181:"Page 30, line 20, leave out subsection (2) and insert—" ““(2) Subsectio...

Lord Avebury | 673 c1141 (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness mentioned the teaching of creationism. I am sure she is aware that there has been...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1139-41 (Link to this contribution) As the noble Lord, Lord Monson, indicated, there is sensitivity in relation to this issue, particula...

Lord Monson | 673 c1138-9 (Link to this contribution) A great many years ago, I was at a boarding school in the United States where at least 10 per cent...

Bishop of Newcastle | 673 c1138 (Link to this contribution) I make the general point that the Church of England would not seek nor support an exemption permitti...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 673 c1141 (Link to this contribution) I am extremely grateful to the noble Baroness. Her statement is important and will I am sure contrib...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1141 (Link to this contribution) We believe that we have made this clear but I am happy to look at the wording and see whether it doe...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 673 c1141 (Link to this contribution) Can the noble Baroness make one thing clear? In her very important statement, which I shall read, sh...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1141 (Link to this contribution) The Bill does not in any way change our current structure and approach in relation to the teaching o...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 673 c1137 (Link to this contribution) This is neither the time nor the place for a debate about faith schools or the existing pattern that...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1136-7 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 179:"Page 29, line 37, leave out ““51”” and insert ““51(1)””" The noble Barones...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 673 c1137-8 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 180:"Page 30, line 20, leave out subsection (2)." The noble Lord said: Clause 5...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1134 (Link to this contribution) It is the position, but I made no mention of Muslims. I mentioned only the issues relating to Jews a...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1134 (Link to this contribution) I say without any fear of contradicting anyone that the noble Lord has accurately referred to the la...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1135-6 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 175:"Page 28, line 17, leave out ““49”” and insert ““49(1), (2) and (5)””" The ...

Lord Pendry | 673 c1134-5 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for her very thoughtful response to my amendment and to the noble Lord...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1136 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendments Nos. 177 and 178:"Page 28, line 17, after ““disposal”” insert ““or management””""Pa...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 673 c1136 (Link to this contribution) I am extremely grateful to the Minister and the Government for meeting the point of the amendment st...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1152-4 (Link to this contribution) I thank the right reverend Prelate the Bishop of Newcastle for his comments, not least for the under...

Bishop of Newcastle | 673 c1152 (Link to this contribution) I reiterate in response to the remarks made by the noble Lord, Lord Lester, that a civil partnership...

Earl Ferrers | 673 c1151-2 (Link to this contribution) I accept the correction, but the fact is that what is being said here is that a registrar who feels ...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 673 c1151 (Link to this contribution) Before the noble Earl demolishes me altogether, that is not what I am saying. Homosexuals cannot mar...

Earl Ferrers | 673 c1151 (Link to this contribution) If I may say so, the noble Lord, Lord Lester of Herne Hill, has the wrong end of the stick. He say...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 673 c1150-1 (Link to this contribution) Some Members of your Lordships’ House do not at all approve of the Civil Partnership Act or of the G...

Baroness Turner of Camden | 673 c1149-50 (Link to this contribution) I hope that my noble friend the Minister will not feel disposed to accept this amendment. I am sure ...

Earl Ferrers | 673 c1149 (Link to this contribution) I hope that the noble Baroness will—as I am sure she will—give a great deal of thought to my noble f...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1147 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 188:"Page 30, line 45, at end insert—" ““( ) It is unlawful for a local ed...

Baroness O'Cathain | 673 c1147-9 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 191A:"Page 31, line 28, at end insert—" ““(1A) For the avoidance of doubt th...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1147 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 186:"Page 30, line 45, leave out ““or harass””" On Question, amendment agreed t...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 673 c1146 (Link to this contribution) I hope that I am not out of order in saying, since I have not spoken to the amendment or to any in t...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1145-6 (Link to this contribution) I thank my noble friend Lady Turner for returning to these issues. I turn, first, to Amendments Nos....

Viscount Simon | 673 c1147 (Link to this contribution) In calling Amendment No. 186, I advise Members of the Committee that if it is agreed to I cannot cal...

Baroness Turner of Camden | 673 c1146 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for that response and will of course withdraw Amendment No. 185. As for Amendme...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1144 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 184:"Page 30, line 38, leave out ““such”” and insert ““the Scottish Ministers, t...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1143-4 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendments Nos. 182 and 183:"Page 30, line 23, at end insert—" ““(2A) In the application o...

Baroness Whitaker | 673 c1145 (Link to this contribution) I support my noble friend’s amendments for the reasons that she has given.

Baroness Turner of Camden | 673 c1144-5 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 185:"Page 30, line 44, at end insert ““—" (a)”” The noble Baroness said: I...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 673 c1143 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful and reassured. I also remind myself that the Human Rights Act 1998 could apply in cert...

Earl Ferrers | 673 c1120-1 (Link to this contribution) The Minister might have been a little precipitous in what she said. She said to the noble Lord, Lord...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1121 (Link to this contribution) I make it plain that I have never at any stage laid claim to omnificence. Therefore, I am absolutely...

Earl Ferrers | 673 c1121 (Link to this contribution) Does that all-embracing phrase ““person of reasonable intellect”” include me?

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 673 c1121-2 (Link to this contribution) Without question. So far as the dignity of an Earl is concerned, I can tell the noble Earl that he w...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1123 (Link to this contribution) I understand the point that the noble Lord is trying to make in relation to this amendment—to bring ...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 673 c1123 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful but I am not persuaded. This definition is narrower than the one that I seek. The Bill...

Earl Ferrers | 673 c1123-4 (Link to this contribution) Before the noble Lord, Lord Lester, withdraws the amendment, he let slip a very alarming prospect. I...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 673 c1124 (Link to this contribution) The noble Earl leads me into a bit of sinning, and I shall now sin. I am not sure whether I am allow...

Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 673 c1130-1 (Link to this contribution) Before the noble Baroness sits down, I have listened with enormous interest to what has been said. T...

Earl Ferrers | 673 c1131 (Link to this contribution) Before the noble Baroness answers that, I listened carefully to what she said, because it was a very...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1131-2 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may deal with the final issue raised by the noble Earl. He knows that my noble friend Lady...

Baroness O'Cathain | 673 c1132 (Link to this contribution) I thank everybody who has taken part in this useful debate. It has gone on for quite a long time, bu...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1129-30 (Link to this contribution) It is a hotel run not by a public authority. Her Majesty runs a certain type of hotel, at which many...

Lord Pendry | 673 c1132-3 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 174:"Page 27, line 21, after ““for”” insert ““play,””" The noble Lord said: The...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 673 c1133 (Link to this contribution) I think that the matter has been covered already, but I would be grateful for reassurance. Clause 4...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1133-4 (Link to this contribution) I give the noble Lord, Lord Lester of Herne Hill, the reassurance that he seeks, but I say to my nob...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 673 c1134 (Link to this contribution) The Minister said something that needs to be clarified. She said that one of the main reasons for Pa...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 673 c1127-8 (Link to this contribution) I certainly think that the amendment tabled by the noble Baroness, Lady O’Cathain, raises profound...

Earl Ferrers | 673 c1128 (Link to this contribution) Surely the noble Lord, Lord Lester of Herne Hill, would not be surprised if he were to stay in a hot...

Earl Ferrers | 673 c1126-7 (Link to this contribution) I agree very much with what my noble friend Lady O’Cathain said. She referred obliquely to the fact ...

Baroness O'Cathain | 673 c1124-6 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 173A:"Page 26, line 34, at end insert—" ““( ) Action by A shall not be reg...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1129 (Link to this contribution) I hope that noble Lords will allow me to express the pleasure I feel at having agreement between the...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 673 c1129 (Link to this contribution) I perfectly agree.

Baroness Miller of Hendon | 673 c1129 (Link to this contribution) There is something to be said for not being quick in jumping up but allowing other people to get in ...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 673 c1128 (Link to this contribution) I said nothing of any kind that is intolerant. All I have tried to do is to say that this raises a d...

Baroness O'Cathain | 673 c1128-9 (Link to this contribution) I take this opportunity to thank the noble Lord, Lord Lester, particularly for his point about scien...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 673 c1116-8 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 170:"Page 25, line 31, leave out paragraph (a)." The noble Lord said: I want to...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1116 (Link to this contribution) It is, because we are dealing with improper and unfair discrimination. The Government are absolutely...

Baroness Greengross | 673 c1116 (Link to this contribution) I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. Clause 46 [Discrimination]:...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 673 c1115-6 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister accept that there are anxieties the other way? There are the anxieties of a cautio...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1120 (Link to this contribution) I am now desperately scrabbling in my mind to think of a case. I must be absolutely open with the no...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 673 c1120 (Link to this contribution) I wonder whether the Minister could help me. She has just said that we are seeking to give effect to...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1120 (Link to this contribution) I can assure the noble Earl that we will give, and have given, this a great deal of thought. That is...

Earl Ferrers | 673 c1119-20 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may add one point of a general nature. I did my best to follow the noble Lord, Lord Lester...

Baroness Greengross | 673 c1208 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister and the noble Lord very much indeed. Of course I shall withdraw the amendment, ...

Baroness Greengross | 673 c1205-6 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 220:"After Clause 88, insert the following new clause—" ““PUBLIC AUTHORITIE...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 673 c1206-7 (Link to this contribution) I entirely agree with everything that the noble Baroness, Lady Greengross, said. In its report the J...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1207-8 (Link to this contribution) I am in the happy position of saying that I agree with the noble Baroness, and I agree with the nobl...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 673 c1204 (Link to this contribution) I have no doubt that this should be done—the problem is when and how. When I tried to achieve this i...

Duke of Montrose | 673 c1204 (Link to this contribution) I was most grateful to hear the way in which the noble Baroness, Lady Greengross, put the amendment....

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1204-5 (Link to this contribution) I reassure the noble Baroness that we understand the issues that she has raised here. The noble Lord...

Baroness Greengross | 673 c1205 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for that explanation. Of course, we want this to happen—and I detect a similar ...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1201-2 (Link to this contribution) Let me immediately assure my noble friend that there is no issue between us in terms of principle. I...

Baroness Gould of Potternewton | 673 c1202 (Link to this contribution) I thank my noble friend for that explanation. Of course, we wait for the discrimination law review, ...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 673 c1200 (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful. On that basis, I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment, by leave, with...

Baroness Gould of Potternewton | 673 c1200-1 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 215:"Page 46, line 37, at end insert ““, and" (c) to promote equality of opp...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 673 c1200 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Baroness for that very clear and welcome reply. The only outstanding ques...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1200 (Link to this contribution) We will be very happy to do that. If I am wrong—I do not believe that I am—I shall certainly write t...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 673 c1198-9 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 213:"Page 43, line 30, at end insert ““or sexual harassment””" The noble Lord s...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1199-200 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Lords, Lord Lester and Lord Dholakia, to the noble Baroness, Lady Stern, ...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1197-8 (Link to this contribution) I can certainly assure the noble Lord that there is a whole team in place working on the discriminat...

Lord Alli | 673 c1198 (Link to this contribution) I thank my noble friend for her reply. I, too, will study what she said during the coming days to se...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1196-7 (Link to this contribution) I have listened carefully to what has been said by my noble friend Lord Alli and by the noble Lord, ...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 673 c1197 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may ask a question that is not trenchant, but purely for information. The Minister has tol...

Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 673 c1193 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 212A:"Page 42, line 37, leave out from ““a”” to end of line 39 and insert ““Scot...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1193 (Link to this contribution) I am again grateful to the noble Baroness and the noble Duke, the Duke of Montrose, for tabling the ...

Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 673 c1193 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Baroness for that; I am sure that my noble friend and I will feel that we have not...

Lord Alli | 673 c1194 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 212B:"After Clause 80, insert the following new clause—" ““PART 2A DISCRIMINAT...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 673 c1194-6 (Link to this contribution) I added my name to that of the noble Lord, Lord Alli, because I agree entirely with the object of th...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1190-1 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Carnegy of Lour, and the noble Duke, the Duke of Montrose, for brin...

Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 673 c1191 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Baroness for that. I am rather surprised that it is not possible just to accept th...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1191-2 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 208:"After Clause 72, insert the following new clause—" ““VALIDITY AND REVI...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1192 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 209:"Page 42, line 3, at end insert—" ““(5) In section 56(4) of the Serious ...

Baroness O'Cathain | 673 c1189 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister. However, I think that the onus is on people like me to scrutinise everything o...

Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 673 c1189-90 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 207A:"Page 40, line 33, leave out from ““solicitor”” to end of line 35." The no...

Baroness O'Cathain | 673 c1189 (Link to this contribution) I am extremely grateful to the Minister, but I am still concerned. We might as well admit that the r...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1189 (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness is correct in relation to ordinary orders, but my experience from the Dispatch ...

Duke of Montrose | 673 c1190 (Link to this contribution) I support my noble friend Lady Carnegy. She has put the case admirably. I suppose that the Governmen...

Baroness Miller of Hendon | 673 c1190 (Link to this contribution) I support these two amendments tabled by my two noble friends.

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 673 c1188 (Link to this contribution) Is the Minister aware that in the Sex Discrimination and Race Relations Acts similar powers were giv...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1188-9 (Link to this contribution) I shall be happy to do that. I hope that I have made clear that we understand the sensitivity of thi...

Baroness O'Cathain | 673 c1187 (Link to this contribution) It is fair to say that the Government have tried harder than ever before to devise exceptions for re...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1187-8 (Link to this contribution) I assure the noble Baroness that we understand the concern expressed on the issue, and that expresse...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1169-70 (Link to this contribution) I agree that there has to be a legal test. The Government would argue that expediency is a test that...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1170 (Link to this contribution) Some would say that that would be tautologous. If it is necessary, it is necessary; if it is reasona...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 673 c1170 (Link to this contribution) Could the noble Baroness consider whether the words ““reasonable necessity”” might meet her needs?

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1185-6 (Link to this contribution) I rise with the greatest of trepidation, because I am ashamed to say that although I was a Brownie I...

Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 673 c1185 (Link to this contribution) I am a bit more of an old stager in that I cut my political teeth as the sixer of the elf six in the...

Baroness Miller of Hendon | 673 c1186-7 (Link to this contribution) I remember when I passed the noble Baroness in the Corridor before dinner. I am not quite sure wheth...

Baroness Crawley | 673 c1170 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move that the House do now resume. In doing so, I suggest that the Committee stage begin ag...

Baroness Wilcox | 673 c1184-5 (Link to this contribution) My name is added to this amendment along with that of the noble Baroness, Lady Cox. I apologise for ...

Baroness Miller of Hendon | 673 c1182-4 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 206A:"After Clause 60, insert the following new clause—" ““EXCLUSION ON GRO...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1115 (Link to this contribution) I say plainly that I understand the anxieties and concerns that the noble Earl raises. The purpose o...

Baroness Greengross | 673 c1202-3 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 215A: "Leave out Clause 82 and insert the following new Clause—" ““PUBLIC ...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1192-3 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 212:"Page 42, line 32, at end insert—" ““(4) The provisions of Parts II to I...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1160 (Link to this contribution) We do not believe that these issues will cause difficulty. We have acknowledged that there has not...

Lord Waddington | 673 c1127 (Link to this contribution) I support what my noble friends have said. I hope that the Minister will not say, ““Well, this form ...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 673 c1118-9 (Link to this contribution) I believe I understand the noble Lord’s difficulty. Perhaps I should go through the areas where we a...

Earl Ferrers | 673 c1154 (Link to this contribution) Is the noble Baroness saying that, although we must have tolerance, understanding and everything lik...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 673 c1134 (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness has not got my point. She referred to those ““religions””. Jews and Sikhs are pro...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 673 c1121 (Link to this contribution) I am extremely grateful to everyone who has taken part in this debate, both the Minister and in part...

Baroness Greengross | 673 c1112 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Baroness for asking that question. In answering it, I think that she is referring ...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 673 c1122-3 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 171:"Page 25, line 35, leave out ““requirement, condition”” and insert ““provisi...

Earl Ferrers | 673 c1129 (Link to this contribution) Will the noble Baroness explain what a ““private”” hotel is?

Baroness Turner of Camden | 673 c1170 (Link to this contribution) I thank my noble friend for that explanation of the Government’s position. The intention of the amen...

Subjects

Contracts

Civil partnerships

Care homes

Curriculum

Courts

Carers

Age

Attitudes to

Equality

Education

Immigration controls

Gender

Exemptions

Faith schools

Harassment

Facilities

Immigration officers

National security

Parents

Local education authorities

Membership

Public bodies

Older people

Staff

Schools

Training

Religion

Transport

Registration of births, deaths, marriages and civil partnerships

Sexuality

Religious freedom

Religious persons

Transgender people

Legislation

Equality Bill (HL) 2005-06

Link

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