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Energy Bill

Debate on bills and Committee proceeding on Thursday, 4 July 2013, in the House of Lords.
Lords committee stage second day. Clauses 3 and 4 agreed to as amended. Clauses 56 to 106 agreed to. Schedules 6 to 12 agreed to.
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Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
746 cc465-522GC 
Session
2013-14
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords Grand Committee
Supply and Appropriation (Main Estimates) Bill 2013-14
Wednesday, 3 July 2013
Bills
House of Commons
Deposited Paper DEP2013-1197
Monday, 8 July 2013
Deposited papers
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Viscount Simon | 746 c465GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, if there is a Division in the Chamber while we are sitting, the Committee will adjourn ...

Baroness Verma | 746 c465GC (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Verma

24: Clause 3, page 3, line 6, after “consult” insert “the Dep...


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Baroness Verma | 746 c465GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Verma

26: Clause 3, page 3, line 14, leave out “Great Britain” and ...

Baroness Worthington | 746 c465GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Worthington

27: Clause 3, page 3, line 19, at end insert—

“(c...

Baroness Worthington | 746 cc465-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, first, I should like to thank the Minister for her very timely and quick turn-around of...

Baroness Verma | 746 c467GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as the noble Baroness, Lady Worthington, has said, Amendment 27 proposes that if carbon...

Baroness Worthington | 746 c467GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for her comments. I am very pleased that she understood that the sentiment w...

Baroness Verma | 746 c468GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Verma

28: Clause 3, page 3, line 31, after “to” insert “the Departm...

Lord O'Neill of Clackmannan | 746 c468GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord O'Neill of Clackmannan

29: After Clause 3, insert the following new Cla...

Lord O'Neill of Clackmannan | 746 cc468-470GC (Link to this contribution)

This is a probing amendment and in some respects it follows on from what my noble friend has just...

Lord Deben | 746 cc469-471GC (Link to this contribution)

As the climate change committee is mentioned in this amendment, perhaps I could refer to some of ...

Baroness Worthington | 746 cc471-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I wanted to make a few comments about how such an obligation might work. Of course, I c...

Lord Oxburgh | 746 c472GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I simply add my support for this amendment and urge the Minister to give it careful con...

Baroness Verma | 746 cc472-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am extremely grateful to the noble Lord, Lord O’Neill, and of course I look very care...

Lord Deben | 746 c473GC (Link to this contribution)

Before my noble friend sits down, I did not suggest that there should be further weight further d...

Baroness Verma | 746 c473GC (Link to this contribution)

First, I stand corrected by my noble friend. Secondly, I think that the measures we are taking ad...

Lord O'Neill of Clackmannan | 746 c473GC (Link to this contribution)

If the Government are satisfied that they and their predecessors have done everything they could ...

Earl Cathcart | 746 c473GC (Link to this contribution)

I genuinely do not understand this. I can understand Europe wanting to get rid of coal altogether...

Lord O'Neill of Clackmannan | 746 c474GC (Link to this contribution)

I am merely quoting what the Minister said. As a consequence of, for example, the large plant dir...

Baroness Worthington | 746 c474GC (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry to prolong the debate but I think this is really important. I stress that, in addition...

Baroness Verma | 746 c474GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, perhaps I may quickly respond to that. It was made very clear on Report in the Commons ...

Baroness Verma | 746 c475GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Verma

30: Clause 4, page 3, line 34, leave out “Great Britain” and ...

Baroness Worthington | 746 c475GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Worthington

36: Clause 4, page 4, line 11, after second “Britain” i...

Baroness Worthington | 746 cc475-6GC (Link to this contribution)

In moving Amendment 36, I shall speak also to Amendment 37. Again, these are simply probing amend...

Lord Teverson | 746 c476GC (Link to this contribution)

This is a useful probing amendment. One of the other areas that has not been mentioned is the int...

Baroness Verma | 746 cc476-7GC (Link to this contribution)

Amendment 36 proposes that the Secretary of State makes further provision about the meaning of “e...

Lord Teverson | 746 c477GC (Link to this contribution)

Before the noble Baroness withdraws it, may I make one further comment? I am not getting in the w...

Baroness Worthington | 746 cc477-8GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for her response and I look forward to receiving the letter. On Amendment 37...

Baroness Verma | 746 c478GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Verma

38: Clause 4, page 4, line 26, after “consult” insert “the De...

Lord Whitty | 746 c478GC (Link to this contribution)

Tabled by

Lord Whitty

38A: Clause 4, page 4, line 27, at end insert “and when the ref...

Lord Whitty | 746 c478GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not intend to move Amendment 38A, although the noble Baroness did not actually rej...

Lord Whitty | 746 c479GC (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Whitty

38B: Clause 57, page 55, line 3, after “GB” insert “civil”

Lord Whitty | 746 cc479-481GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving on to this large group of amendments, we move to an entirely new part of the ...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 746 cc481-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I congratulate the noble Lord, Lord Whitty, on the comprehensiveness of his amendments....

Lord O'Neill of Clackmannan | 746 c483GC (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate my colleague and noble friend on the rigour with which he has approached this area...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 746 c483GC (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I may make one thing clear at the beginning. I have no ‘s’ on the end of my name. There i...

Lord O'Neill of Clackmannan | 746 cc483-5GC (Link to this contribution)

If only an “s” were the only thing that I had to worry about. When you have a name such as O'Neil...

Lord Deben | 746 c485GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not think that one can add much to what my noble friend Lord Jenkin said, except t...

Lord Judd | 746 cc486-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I ought to declare an interest in the sense that, unless climate change has made a diff...

Baroness Verma | 746 c487GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am extremely grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Whitty, for his careful consideration o...

Baroness Verma | 746 cc487-9GC (Link to this contribution)

When my noble friend said 1965, I tried to remember what I was doing then and I think I was proba...

Lord Whitty | 746 cc488-491GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will be very happy to withdraw the amendment and I thank the Minister very much for t...

Lord Whitty | 746 c491GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Whitty

38E: Clause 58, page 55, line 42, at end insert—

“( ) For ...

Lord Whitty | 746 cc491-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment deals with relatively bread-and-butter matters and with the effects of t...

Lord Deben | 746 cc492-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, on the controversial comment that was just made, I find it very difficult because I do ...

Baroness Verma | 746 cc493-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in creating the ONR as a statutory body, it is important to ensure that the tenets of h...

Lord Whitty | 746 c494GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for that. I am very satisfied with at least one and a hal...

Lord Deben | 746 cc494-5GC (Link to this contribution)

I would not want the noble Lord to mistake what I said. Of course a nuclear site, by its very nat...

Lord Whitty | 746 c495GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I did not expect to convince the Minister, but before he stood up I had a slight hope o...

Lord Whitty | 746 c495GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Whitty

38G: Clause 59, page 57, line 23, at end insert—

“(4) Oper...

Lord Whitty | 746 cc495-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak also to the other amendments in this large group, to which the noble Lord,...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 746 cc497-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I must start with an apology. I dealt in my earlier speech with arguments which are muc...

Lord Deben | 746 cc498-500GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I want to refer particularly to the suggestion that DECC and the DWP should in some sen...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 746 c500GC (Link to this contribution)

Does my noble friend recollect, as I do, the ghastly events of the landslide at Aberfan? With thr...

Lord Deben | 746 c500GC (Link to this contribution)

I agree with my noble friend about that example. The reason I drew from familial experience was t...

Lord O'Neill of Clackmannan | 746 cc500-2GC (Link to this contribution)

I have some sympathy with the remarks that have been made, which sets me at variance with my nobl...

Lord Roper | 746 c502GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, when I heard the noble Lord, Lord Whitty, introduce this amendment I had a good deal of...

Lord Whitty | 746 c502GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before the Minister replies, perhaps I might point out that most of this debate has bee...

Baroness Verma | 746 cc502-4GC (Link to this contribution)

I am extremely grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Whitty, and I hope that I will be able to allay h...

Lord Roper | 746 c504GC (Link to this contribution)

I welcome what the Minister said about considering between now and Report the Delegated Powers Co...

Lord Whitty | 746 cc504-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I join the noble Lord in welcoming what the Minister said. It is important that the Gov...

Lord Whitty | 746 c506GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Whitty

38R: Schedule 6, page 131, line 1, leave out paragraphs (a) and ...

Lord Whitty | 746 cc506-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 38R, I will also speak to the other amendments in this fairly mixed...

Baroness Verma | 746 cc507-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am extremely grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Whitty, for allowing me an opportunity ...

Lord Roper | 746 c508GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, could the Minister give assurances that, on the references in Clauses 68, 80 and 104, t...

Baroness Verma | 746 c508GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as I said earlier, of course, I am doing my level best to ensure that the Committee get...

Lord Whitty | 746 cc508-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for going through the amendments. I accept the argument in regard ...

Lord Whitty | 746 c509GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Whitty

38W: Schedule 7, page 131, line 35, leave out “7” and insert “8”...

Lord Whitty | 746 cc509-510GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this group is fairly straightforward and deals with the structure of the board of the O...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 746 cc510-1GC (Link to this contribution)

I am extremely grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Whitty, for his kind remarks about the two amendm...

Baroness Verma | 746 cc511-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, again, I am extremely grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Whitty, and my noble friend Lord...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 746 c512GC (Link to this contribution)

My amendment has of course not been moved so I cannot withdraw it, as I am sure that my noble fri...

Lord Whitty | 746 cc512-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am somewhat disappointed by the Minister’s reply, but I should first apologise to the...

Lord Whitty | 746 c514GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Whitty

40C: Schedule 7, page 139, line 20, at end insert “including ful...

Lord Whitty | 746 cc514-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Committee will be relieved to know that Amendment 40C is the lead amendment in the ...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 746 cc516-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have doubts about two amendments in this group. On Amendment 40G, I am told that full...

Lord Deben | 746 c517GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I wanted to build for one moment on what my noble friend Lord Jenkin has said and take ...

Lord O'Neill of Clackmannan | 746 c517GC (Link to this contribution)

I rise in defence of my noble friend—although we disagreed on the previous amendment. We are losi...

Baroness Verma | 746 cc518-9GC (Link to this contribution)

I am extremely grateful that the noble Lord ended on his last note, because I consider everything...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 746 c519GC (Link to this contribution)

Before my noble friend sits down I hope I may be allowed to say how much we owe to the noble Lord...

Lord Whitty | 746 cc519-520GC (Link to this contribution)

Flabbergasted as I am, I thank the noble Lord and others who are saying, “Hear, hear!” I wondered...

Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 746 c522GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this may be a convenient moment for the Committee to adjourn.

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