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Animal Welfare (Non-stun Slaughter)

Backbench debate and e-petition debate on Monday, 23 February 2015, in the House of Commons, led by Philip Hollobone. The answering member was George Eustice.
Unallotted backbench debate (half day). Motion that this House has considered the e-petition relating to ending non-stun slaughter to promote animal welfare. Agreed to on question.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
593 c44WH 
Session
2014-15
Chamber / Committee
Westminster Hall
Proceeding contributions
Philip Hollobone | 593 c44WH (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move,

That this House has considered the e-petition relating to ending non-stun sl...

Bob Stewart | 593 c44WH (Link to this contribution)

I will be blunt. If my throat were going to be cut, I would prefer to be stunned. I have seen wha...


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Philip Hollobone | 593 c44WH (Link to this contribution)

I am sure that my hon. Friend speaks for the vast majority of his constituents. Indeed, a recent ...

Philip Davies | 593 c2WH (Link to this contribution)

I commend my hon. Friend on his speech. Would it be helpful if people had a better idea of what t...

Philip Hollobone | 593 c2WH (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes an extremely good point and reflects one of the main concerns in the e-petit...

Matthew Offord | 593 c2WH (Link to this contribution)

The point about labelling is fine; but does my hon. Friend agree that it should extend also to ot...

Philip Hollobone | 593 c2WH (Link to this contribution)

There is of course a danger that if meat products are labelled in such detail, people will be put...

Caroline Lucas | 593 c3WH (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman agree that as well as strengthening the law, in consultation with the rel...

Philip Hollobone | 593 c3WH (Link to this contribution)

Yes; one of the advantages of speaking first in a debate such as this is the many helpful interve...

James Paice | 593 c3WH (Link to this contribution)

I wanted to pick up on my hon. Friend’s suggestion of a four-bar label. After he listed stunned a...

Philip Hollobone | 593 c3WH (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend knows far more about this subject than I do, not least because he was a dist...

Philip Hollobone | 593 c3WH (Link to this contribution)

I will be happy to give way to all hon. Members, but I want to finish this point. If someone of J...

Alan Meale | 593 c4WH (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate the hon. Gentleman on his very good approach to this issue. To reiterate, the poin...

Philip Hollobone | 593 c4WH (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is absolutely correct. The wording of the e-petition refers to stunning versus...

Steve Baker | 593 c4WH (Link to this contribution)

Muslim constituents in Wycombe will want to buy halal meat and they should be able to do that. On...

Philip Hollobone | 593 c4WH (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend has demonstrated once again how he frequently speaks up in a most thoughtful way i...

Lord Watts | 593 c4WH (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman agree that nothing can justify cruelty to animals, and that that has litt...

Philip Hollobone | 593 c5WH (Link to this contribution)

That is the view of the British Veterinary Association, the RSPCA and the other distinguished ani...

Philip Davies | 593 c5WH (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is being very generous. Does he agree that this is not just about animal welfare? ...

Philip Hollobone | 593 cc5-6WH (Link to this contribution)

I was pleased to support my hon. Friend’s ten-minute rule Bill, because I am a strong supporter o...

Caroline Nokes | 593 c6WH (Link to this contribution)

Is my hon. Friend aware that a great deal more research has been done on this matter recently, an...

Philip Hollobone | 593 cc6-7WH (Link to this contribution)

That is an extremely good point, and the House will want to ensure that our domestic legislation ...

Bill Wiggin | 593 c7WH (Link to this contribution)

Unlike most colleagues, my constituents are more likely to be beef producers than halal or shechi...

Philip Hollobone | 593 c7WH (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes a very good point. As he represents a farming constituency, he will apprecia...

Bob Blackman | 593 c7WH (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend referred originally to the question of pain and suffering for the animal. Is he aw...

Philip Hollobone | 593 cc7-8WH (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes an extremely good point. I have a great deal of respect for the shechita pos...

Simon Hart | 593 c8WH (Link to this contribution)

I place on the record my complete support for what my hon. Friend is attempting to do. Perhaps he...

Philip Hollobone | 593 c8WH (Link to this contribution)

That is right, but to the great British public, the two are closely aligned. A lot of people woul...

James Gray | 593 c9WH (Link to this contribution)

Order. A glance around the Chamber will demonstrate that quite a large number of hon. Members wan...

Shabana Mahmood | 593 cc9-10WH (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Gray, and to speak after the hon. Member fo...

Greg Knight | 593 c10WH (Link to this contribution)

Before the hon. Lady concludes her remarks, will she deal with the point about labelling? Surely ...

Shabana Mahmood | 593 c10WH (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for that intervention. The next part of my remarks is about precisely that: labelli...

Stephen Timms | 593 c11WH (Link to this contribution)

Many of the points that my hon. Friend is making will be welcomed by the large number of my const...

Shabana Mahmood | 593 c11WH (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is absolutely right. That is why it is so important that we reach the positi...

David Ward | 593 c11WH (Link to this contribution)

We are talking about the clash of two principles, one being animal welfare and the other being pe...

Shabana Mahmood | 593 cc11-3WH (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman and I are entering the debate from different starting points. I do not accept ...

James Paice | 593 cc13-5WH (Link to this contribution)

I suspect that if we asked hon. Members of this House, I would not be seen as someone who was par...

Kerry McCarthy | 593 c15WH (Link to this contribution)

I am genuinely interested in the right hon. Gentleman’s speech, and I bow to his far superior kno...

James Paice | 593 cc15-6WH (Link to this contribution)

I genuinely do not know. I cannot vouch for the accuracy of that statistic. All I would say is th...

John Hemming | 593 c16WH (Link to this contribution)

I thank the right hon. Gentleman for his well-informed and impressive speech. Does he see no role...

James Paice | 593 c16WH (Link to this contribution)

I am certainly not against labelling. As I said a few minutes ago, I have recommended and indeed ...

James Gray | 593 c16WH (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Gentleman will forgive me for saying that if that was his last speech—we all hope ...

Lord Harrington of Watford | 593 cc16-7WH (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate my right hon. Friend the Member for South East Cambridgeshire (Sir James Paice) on...

Lee Scott | 593 c17WH (Link to this contribution)

I totally agree with my hon. Friend that people’s freedom to practise religion, and to eat meat p...

Lord Harrington of Watford | 593 c18WH (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend, as ever, makes an extremely good point that reiterates what I was saying about mo...

Anas Sarwar | 593 c18WH (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman and I—a Jew and a Muslim—travelled to some of the most deprived communities in...

Lord Harrington of Watford | 593 c18WH (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is correct. Of course, certain things come out of ignorance, and ignorance bre...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 593 cc18-20WH (Link to this contribution)

I welcome you to the Chair, Mr Gray, and I congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for Kettering (...

Kerry McCarthy | 593 c20WH (Link to this contribution)

I entirely agree with the hon. Lady that better inspection and enforcement of standards is the wa...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 593 cc20-1WH (Link to this contribution)

The Minister will have heard what the hon. Lady said, and I think that her questions back up my a...

Louise Ellman | 593 cc21-2WH (Link to this contribution)

I apologise for my late arrival, Mr Havard—I was chairing the Select Committee on Transport—and I...

Mike Gapes | 593 c22WH (Link to this contribution)

I have a large number of constituents who are concerned about animal welfare. I also have a large...

Dai Havard | 593 c23WH (Link to this contribution)

Order. I remind Members that interventions are meant to be short, concise and cogent.

Louise Ellman | 593 c23WH (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend the Member for Ilford South (Mike Gapes) for his intervention. He makes an...

David Jones | 593 cc23-4WH (Link to this contribution)

I welcome you to the Chair, Mr Havard. I am grateful for the opportunity to participate in this i...

Diane Abbott | 593 c24WH (Link to this contribution)

Surely the point that the right hon. Gentleman raises is about labelling, rather than the nature ...

David Jones | 593 cc24-5WH (Link to this contribution)

Not entirely. If more non-stunned slaughter is being carried out in this country than is required...

Matthew Offord | 593 cc25-6WH (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Havard, and to follow the hon. Members for ...

James Paice | 593 c26WH (Link to this contribution)

If all shechita slaughtered meat is eaten by Jews, is my hon. Friend saying that they are eating ...

Matthew Offord | 593 c26WH (Link to this contribution)

I take my right hon. Friend’s point about all parts of the animal—I do not know whether they are ...

James Paice | 593 c26WH (Link to this contribution)

They are sold into the rest of the supply.

Matthew Offord | 593 c26WH (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend may say that, but he has not come forward with any evidence to convince me. ...

Matthew Offord | 593 c26WH (Link to this contribution)

Well, I must give way to the Minister.

George Eustice | 593 c26WH (Link to this contribution)

I have discussed this issue with Shechita UK, and everyone acknowledges that the hind quarters ar...

Matthew Offord | 593 cc26-7WH (Link to this contribution)

I apologise to the former Minister, my right hon. Friend the Member for South East Cambridgeshire...

Diane Abbott | 593 c27WH (Link to this contribution)

My local Muslim community is concerned about this debate. Many do not feel that it is really abou...

Matthew Offord | 593 c28WH (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady’s intervention illustrates that some of the concerns of people in different communi...

Dai Havard | 593 c28WH (Link to this contribution)

Four Members wish to speak and I want to start the Front-Bench wind-ups by 6.55, leaving them a g...

Neil Parish | 593 cc28-30WH (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Mr Havard, and it is a great pleasure to take part in the debate, which I thank my hon...

Diane Abbott | 593 cc29-31WH (Link to this contribution)

I have listened with great interest to the contributions to the debate, in particular the contrib...

Dai Havard | 593 c31WH (Link to this contribution)

Order. To give hon. Members a little advice before we continue, when we vote it will be on a moti...

Mike Freer | 593 cc31-2WH (Link to this contribution)

The debate has quite rightly focused on animal welfare. I have to say that those who believe in m...

Mike Gapes | 593 c32WH (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is making a powerful point. I will add my voice to his. Constituents in Ilford...

Mike Freer | 593 cc32-3WH (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is right. Religious communities feel that they are under threat and that they ...

Dai Havard | 593 c33WH (Link to this contribution)

I now intend to let Mr Blackman speak. We will then have the two Front-Bench spokesmen. I will gi...

Bob Blackman | 593 cc33-5WH (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Havard. The debate has demonstrated the pow...

Huw Irranca-Davies | 593 cc34-7WH (Link to this contribution)

This has been an excellent debate. I congratulate the hon. Member for Kettering (Mr Hollobone) on...

George Eustice | 593 cc37-9WH (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate all the members of the public who signed the petition and for getting it past the ...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 593 c39WH (Link to this contribution)

The Bowood episode clearly shows that the regulations might not be being followed to the letter, ...

George Eustice | 593 cc39-40WH (Link to this contribution)

The food business operator—the operator of the abattoir—is legally required to ensure that those ...

David Jones | 593 c40WH (Link to this contribution)

Why are such a high proportion of sheep and goats being killed by the non-stun method? The figure...

George Eustice | 593 cc40-3WH (Link to this contribution)

I am not sure. I will have to check those particular figures. We know, for instance, that around ...

Diane Abbott | 593 c43WH (Link to this contribution)

I am always gripped by discussions about the European Commission, but will the Minister comment o...

George Eustice | 593 c43WH (Link to this contribution)

I know that the hon. Lady made that point previously. I do not think that there has been anything...

Huw Irranca-Davies | 593 c43WH (Link to this contribution)

Does the Minister see any scope for progress on post-cut stunning, which would be a real step for...

George Eustice | 593 cc43-4WH (Link to this contribution)

Yes, and I am going to come to that, but my hon. Friend the Member for Thirsk and Malton mentione...

Philip Hollobone | 593 c44WH (Link to this contribution)

It is a huge pleasure to serve under your chairmanship for the conclusion of the debate, Mr Havar...

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