London Local Authorities and Transport for London (No. 2) Bill [Lords ]

I ask the Serjeant at Arms to investigate the delay in the Aye Lobby.

I beg to move amendment 21.

With this it will be convenient to consider amendments 22 to 40.

The amendment relates to part 5 of the Bill, which deals with charging points for electric vehicl...

My hon. Friend knows I am with him on most of his activities, but does he acknowledge that there ...

Far from it—I am with my hon. Friend on subsidies. I am suggesting that the cost of charging an e...

I am relieved that my hon. Friend has not gone completely nanny state in his approach. However, h...

My hon. Friend is getting into an interesting argument on which we could have an academic discour...

I understand my hon. Friend’s point, but I cannot believe that, when he introduced unleaded fuel,...

rose—

Order. I recognise that the unleaded debate was such a long time in the past that Mr Davies may s...

Absolutely, Mr Deputy Speaker. As so often, you are spot on in reading the language not necessari...

I assure you, Mr Deputy Speaker, that I will not mention unleaded fuel again. Coming on to the ni...

My hon. Friend is making an argument against the whole of part 5. He is basically saying that if ...

Does my hon. Friend not agree that the Bill has been progressing through this place for such a lo...

My hon. Friend makes a good point. Perhaps we will hear from the Minister in due course what he t...

If that was the case, surely it would increase the risk of a burden being placed on the taxpayer....

I accept that, which is why I am disappointed that relatively few spokespersons for London local ...

My hon. Friend says that this is a matter only for London, but it is not, because if the strategy...

My hon. Friend makes a good point. I suppose the counter-argument is that it is important that a ...

In view of the point my hon. Friend has just made, is he not as surprised as I am that the Govern...

That is a good point. I hope we will hear from the Minister in due course, because it is no exagg...

Order. I know that the hon. Gentleman will not mind my advice and help. We are discussing the Lon...

Thank you for that ruling, Mr Deputy Speaker. Obviously it means that when the Minister responds,...

The Government have set out their position in “Driving the Future Today”, as published by the Off...

Order. I know that you wanted to make a short intervention, Mr Davies, and I know that you may wi...

Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker.

Amendment 23 would introduce the words “on a discretionary ba...

Given the discussion that we have already had about the desirability of the private sector being ...

Maybe my hon. Friend is right, but my submission is that if the London authority is going to prov...

Surely any person granted such permission would be acting on behalf of the local authority, which...

Well, if that is not sufficient to intimidate me into withdrawing my amendment, I do not know wha...

I am glad to observe that my hon. Friend is back on track with the amendments, because they are f...

My hon. Friend is entirely right. That brings us back to the question of whom we are trying to en...

Order. Let us not worry about other Bills. Let us deal with the Bill before us, and, in particula...

I shall deal next with amendment 29, Mr Deputy Speaker. It proposes the removal of clause 16(9), ...

Will my hon. Friend give way?

May I anticipate my hon. Friend’s intervention by saying that I am delighted by the broad-minded ...

Let me say on behalf of the promoters, in order to save time, that they are happy to accept amend...

I am grateful to my hon. Friend for making that clear, and I am happy to move on.

My hon. Friend the Member for Harrow East (Bob Blackman) may have accepted this amendment, but I ...

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Order. I think we have got the reasons, and I know Mr Chope wants to get on. I have not even had ...

My hon. Friend the Member for Shipley (Philip Davies) will be able to make his own speech in due ...

If my hon. Friend’s earlier amendments ensure all of this has to be done by the London local auth...

That is absolutely right, but in drafting these amendments I had to anticipate the possibility th...

I follow the logic of that, but it does not necessarily follow. It might be thought that the auth...

Clause 17(1) states that

“a London authority shall not exercise any power…unless they have ...

I agree wholeheartedly with what my hon. Friend is saying; it would seem absurd that someone coul...

Giving my hon. Friend the benefit of the doubt, my response to his intervention is that that is n...

indicated assent .

My hon. Friend, who is the sponsor of the Bill, is nodding. That would be fine if there was not a...

My hon. Friend raises an important point, but the proposal addresses someone who might be not ste...

I look forward to hearing my hon. Friend’s speech on the amendments because I am not sure that th...

I am not suggesting that the person has not paid for the electricity. He could have paid for it, ...

My hon. Friend might well be on to a good point, but we will find out when we hear from my hon. F...

I agree with my hon. Friend, but is not clause 19 also deficient by focusing in subsection (2) on...

My hon. Friend makes a good point. I am grateful to him for citing another reason why the clause ...

It is a pleasure to follow my hon. Friend the Member for Christchurch (Mr Chope). I was a little ...

Order. I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for that preamble to the remarks that he is now going ...

I, too, am grateful, Madam Deputy Speaker. You are of course right, so without further ado I will...

I am not suggesting what my hon. Friend has just said. I would support him in an aspiration that ...

My hon. Friend puts a slightly different complexion on matters, if I understand him correctly; if...

Does my hon. Friend not agree that in view of the fact that subsection (2) is merely a permissive...

I am grateful to my hon. Friend. When I am on the opposite side of an argument from that of my ho...

And amendments 35 and 36 .

My hon. Friend, the sponsor of the Bill, is getting ahead of me. He is clearly a much faster read...

My hon. Friend is making a good point about the contrast in clause 18 whereby the local planning ...

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. One could argue that it should be the other way around: compa...

I thank my hon. Friend the Member for Christchurch (Mr Chope) for his amendments, his speech and ...

I think I am with my hon. Friend, broadly. He said he was a big supporter of the Mayor of London’...

London local authorities are ambitious and keen to get on with the job. They do not need to be to...

Does my hon. Friend not think that if there is a demand for charging points, then private sector ...

I predict that in the coming years petrol stations will provide electric charging points, in addi...

With the greatest respect, the words “on a discretionary basis” merely refer to the erection of c...

I completely accept my hon. Friend’s intervention: amendment 23 would relate to the highway. Howe...

If such cars are popular, surely the private sector will provide charging points anyway. We do no...

The thrust of the amendments is to require public authorities to provide charging points; the thr...

My hon. Friend is making a valiant attempt to justify his argument, but this is a local authority...

I accept the principle behind my hon. Friend’s point, but if a local authority is negligent, it c...

I have listened carefully to my hon. Friend, and his argument would be all very well were it not ...

In practice, the motor manufacturers will provide cables to connect their vehicles to the electri...

My hon. Friend says that he does not envisage local authorities providing the cables, so why do w...

In some car parks, a local authority might wish to control the process. I do not envisage cables ...

Will my hon. Friend give way ?

Let me explain the other issue—about the public highway—first. If we ended up having to grant pla...

It is not the local authorities, but local residents, that I care about. My hon. Friend makes gre...

Having served as a councillor on a local authority for 24 years before coming to this place, I ca...

I take my hon. Friend’s point that we do not want to have thousands of planning applications, but...

I thank my hon. Friend for that suggestion. The key here is consulting the planning authorities o...

Unfortunately, there is no reference to vandalism in the clause, which refers specifically to som...

I thank my hon. Friend for clarifying his purpose, but I think we should make it clear that misus...

It is, as always, a pleasure to follow my hon. Friend the Member for Harrow East (Bob Blackman). ...

This is a notable debate for a number of reasons, but one is that we have not heard from either t...

I appreciate that my hon. Friend is completing his summary. Is he as surprised as I am that, notw...

Having one amendment accepted is more than was achieved during the earlier business—today, yester...