Health Bill. Lords Committee stage sixth day. Grand Committee off the floor of the House (Moses Room). Clauses 36 to 83 agreed to, clauses 47 and 78 agreed to as amended. Schedules 3 to 9 agreed to. Bill reported with amendments (HL Bill 117).
Clause 36 [Provision of primary ophthalmic services]:
Health Bill
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
682 c265-88GC 
Session
2005-06
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords Grand Committee
Health Bill. Brought from the Commons. Explanatory Notes HL Bill 76-EN also published.
Wednesday, 15 February 2006
Bills
House of Lords
Wednesday, 15 February 2006
Bills
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Baroness Cumberlege | 682 c270-1GC (Link to this contribution)
I supporting this amendment and, again, I do so with the intention of lightening the bureaucratic bu...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 682 c274GC (Link to this contribution)
I am told that the 48 hours is there for the patients’ benefit, enabling them to have a friend or re...
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Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 682 c268GC (Link to this contribution)
I am glad that you know what I mean. There should be vision screening by an orthoptist or a school n...
Baroness Cumberlege | 682 c268GC (Link to this contribution)
We know what you mean.
Earl Howe | 682 c284-5GC (Link to this contribution)
In common, I am sure, with other noble Lords, I was grateful for the letter sent by the noble Lord, ...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 682 c284GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 104A:"Page 63, line 2, at end insert ““, and"
(e) (except for section 35(2))...
Earl Howe | 682 c278-9GC (Link to this contribution)
This is not a controversial clause, but one particular issue arises from it about information that m...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 682 c279GC (Link to this contribution)
The clause outlines the circumstances in which information obtained using powers set out in this par...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 682 c280-1GC (Link to this contribution)
Clause 50 provides special protection for information obtained from personal records and from which ...
Earl Howe | 682 c281-2GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 99:"Page 53, line 9, leave out subsection (6)."
The noble Earl said: Though we ...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 682 c282-3GC (Link to this contribution)
Clauses 57, 59 and 60 make provision for the appointments commission to exercise much of the appoint...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 682 c276GC (Link to this contribution)
The amendment would include in the Bill an example of a specific service that a primary care trust m...
Earl Howe | 682 c274-5GC (Link to this contribution)
I will back up what my noble friend has said. She and I have read the same impassioned article in Op...
Earl Howe | 682 c277GC (Link to this contribution)
I should find it extremely helpful if the Minister could outline to the Committee the nature of the ...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 682 c277-8GC (Link to this contribution)
In essence, the noble Earl is asking why this legislation is needed. He is absolutely correct to say...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 682 c272GC (Link to this contribution)
Amendment No. 92 would include a specific reference to people who are unable to get to an optical pr...
Baroness Cumberlege | 682 c274GC (Link to this contribution)
Before the Minister sits down, I am very relieved to hear that there is no third list, as I understo...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 682 c274GC (Link to this contribution)
There is an awful lot of sense in what the noble Baroness has said. I will seek further clarificatio...
Baroness Barker | 682 c269GC (Link to this contribution)
I support the noble Earl. He will choose what to do with his amendment, but should he wish to press ...
Earl Howe | 682 c268-9GC (Link to this contribution)
I feel I must take up what the Minister said about decades of neglect of the National Health Service...
Baroness Barker | 682 c265-6GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 91:"Page 31, line 15, leave out from ““all”” to end of line 23 and insert ““pers...
Lord Brabazon of Tara | 682 c266GC (Link to this contribution)
I should point out that if this amendment is agreed to, I cannot call Amendment No. 92.
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 682 c284GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 102:"Page 60, line 41, after ““4,”” insert ““5,””"
On Question, amendment agree...
Earl Howe | 682 c283-4GC (Link to this contribution)
Those reassurances are welcome. I am grateful to the Minister for them, in particular for her reassu...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 682 c285-7GC (Link to this contribution)
There is a convention that the provisions of an Act of Parliament should not normally be commenced u...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 682 c288GC (Link to this contribution)
As the noble Baroness correctly points out, businesses are already adapting their practices. However...
Earl Howe | 682 c279GC (Link to this contribution)
That is a very helpful clarification, and I am grateful to the Minister. She did not comment specifi...
Baroness Barker | 682 c275GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 95:"Page 33, line 24, at end insert—"
““( ) services such as a glaucoma re...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 682 c278GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 97:"Page 43, line 9, at end insert ““made by the appropriate national authority”...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 682 c276GC (Link to this contribution)
As the noble Baroness will understand, the exact timetable is up to Ministers and I cannot comment. ...
Baroness Murphy | 682 c271-2GC (Link to this contribution)
I support the amendments in this group. The noble Baroness, Lady Cumberlege, has outlined very clear...
Baroness Barker | 682 c272GC (Link to this contribution)
I support the amendment put forward by the noble Earl, Lord Howe, and the noble Baroness, Lady Cumbe...
Baroness Murphy | 682 c272GC (Link to this contribution)
I was most concerned with getting fresh, new, up-to-date provision for sight tests.
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 682 c272-4GC (Link to this contribution)
I thank the noble Baroness for that clarification, but it is important to note that it is much easie...
Baroness Cumberlege | 682 c274GC (Link to this contribution)
I do not quite understand that. If a patient wants an eye test, surely he or she can get a friend th...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 682 c266-8GC (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Barker, for her very positive comments about the efficienc...
Baroness Cumberlege | 682 c268GC (Link to this contribution)
I put my name to Amendment No. 93. As I understand it, last year 2.53 million children received the ...
Baroness Barker | 682 c268GC (Link to this contribution)
Do health visitors still do rudimentary eye tests on small children? Is that part of their casework?...
Earl Howe | 682 c269-70GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 92:"Page 31, line 15, after ““persons”” insert ““including such persons as are p...
Earl Howe | 682 c266GC (Link to this contribution)
I shall speak to Amendment No. 93 in this group. It has a very special purpose, which is to ensure t...
Baroness Barker | 682 c287-8GC (Link to this contribution)
When the Minister does that, could she furnish us with an example of what the Government are trying ...
Earl Howe | 682 c280GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 98:"Page 45, line 23, leave out ““member of the public”” and insert ““person to ...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 682 c279-80GC (Link to this contribution)
I regret that I will have to do that in writing, but I will do so with the utmost urgency.
Clause 4...
Earl Howe | 682 c281GC (Link to this contribution)
That is very good news. I am very grateful to the noble Baroness and her officials for considering t...
Baroness Barker | 682 c276GC (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for her reply, which I took to be generally supportive of what I am trying to a...
Earl Howe | 682 c278GC (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for that reply, which was, as I anticipated, helpfully illuminating. I shall co...
Baroness Barker | 682 c276-7GC (Link to this contribution)
That is extremely helpful and encouraging. In view of what the Minister said, I beg leave to withdra...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 682 c268GC (Link to this contribution)
As I said earlier, home visits and community development ensure that there is proper early detection...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 682 c268GC (Link to this contribution)
I shall have to write to the noble Baroness about whether such tests are a matter of routine. Howeve...
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