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Employment Bill [HL]

Debate on bills and Committee proceeding on Monday, 25 February 2008, in the House of Lords.
Employment Bill (HL). Lords Committee stage second day. Grand Committee held in the Moses Room.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
699 c65-114GC 
Session
2007-08
Department
Department for Business, Enterprise and Regulatory Reform
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords Grand Committee
Related items
Employment Bill (HL). (Explanatory Notes HL Bill 13-EN published).
Thursday, 6 December 2007
Bills
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Lord Bach | 699 c112-3GC (Link to this contribution) I shall do my best to explain Clause 10. The Government are determined to ensure full, effective enf...
Baroness Wilcox | 699 c114GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for that, but I am not sure. What is this—guilty until proved innocent or innoc...

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Lord Watson of Invergowrie | 699 c107GC (Link to this contribution) If the Minister and his officials have not already done so, might they meet Citizens Advice, which h...
Baroness Wilcox | 699 c112GC (Link to this contribution) I am probing just to allow the Minister the opportunity to defend the necessity of giving these powe...
Lord Wedderburn of Charlton | 699 c104-5GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 24: 24: After Clause 7, insert the following new Clause— ““Award of compensati...
Lord Wedderburn of Charlton | 699 c71GC (Link to this contribution) Was any objective evidence or survey put forward in these conversations to show that the ACAS decisi...
Lord Razzall | 699 c86GC (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may intervene for the first time in the one hour and 40 minutes that we have spent on thre...
Lord Wedderburn of Charlton | 699 c81-4GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 21: 21: After Clause 5, insert the following new Clause— ““Employment disputes...
Baroness Wilcox | 699 c113GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for that explanation. Is it possible when we meet again for him to give us evid...
Lord Watson of Invergowrie | 699 c106-7GC (Link to this contribution) I support the amendment. It is important to draw parallels between the clauses in the Bill, which ma...
Lord Wedderburn of Charlton | 699 c102GC (Link to this contribution) I said on a previous amendment that we have all heard of cases which get through the net of concilia...
Lord Henley | 699 c101-2GC (Link to this contribution) I offer my support to the amendment moved with such skill by my noble friend Lady Perry. I am sure t...
Baroness Perry of Southwark | 699 c104GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for the reassurance which my noble friend was seeking, and I thank my ...
Lord Brougham and Vaux | 699 c65GC (Link to this contribution) Good afternoon and welcome to the second day of Committee. As noble Lords know, the rules and regula...
Lord Wedderburn of Charlton | 699 c94GC (Link to this contribution) I take that to be a question—I was in a semi-recumbent position—but I agree with a lot of it. I thin...
Lord Borrie | 699 c94-7GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 22: 22: After Clause 6, insert the following new Clause— ““Proceedings in publ...
Lord Jones of Birmingham | 699 c89-91GC (Link to this contribution) I have listened carefully to all the submissions and, first, I make a plea that we remove the alarmi...
Lord Wedderburn of Charlton | 699 c85-6GC (Link to this contribution) Would the noble Lord accept, first, that the James v Greenwich Council case concerned a dispute as t...
Baroness Turner of Camden | 699 c80-1GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for that response. I am glad at least that he accepts that it is absolutely nec...
Baroness Turner of Camden | 699 c84-5GC (Link to this contribution) During Second Reading, many noble Lords referred to the need to provide employment rights for agency...
Lord Jones of Birmingham | 699 c77GC (Link to this contribution) I can give the noble Lord, Lord Campbell, the assurance that he sought. Nothing being proposed will ...
Lord Campbell of Alloway | 699 c77GC (Link to this contribution) No, I have not. I am grateful that the Minister will deal with the problem I mentioned.
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 699 c78GC (Link to this contribution) I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. [Amendments Nos. 18 and 19 ...
Baroness Perry of Southwark | 699 c80GC (Link to this contribution) In the light of what the noble Lord, Lord Wedderburn, said, I ask whether ““within reasonable time””...
Lord Wedderburn of Charlton | 699 c73GC (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may ask the Minister a simple question, which he may wish to answer after today. Did ACAS,...
Lord Jones of Birmingham | 699 c73-4GC (Link to this contribution) I do not know, but I shall find out and I shall come back to my noble friend. Michael Gibbons, in h...
Lord Campbell of Alloway | 699 c74-5GC (Link to this contribution) I wanted to hear what the Minister had to say before getting up and saying anything. From what littl...
Lord Brougham and Vaux | 699 c77GC (Link to this contribution) Does the noble Lord, Lord Campbell of Alloway, have anything further to say?
Lord Campbell of Alloway | 699 c76-7GC (Link to this contribution) There is no difference in principle at the root of our disagreement. I wholly accept the intendment ...
Lord Bach | 699 c114GC (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness talks about us making this more convenient, but it is a ridiculous system where a...
Lord Bach | 699 c114GC (Link to this contribution) I think that this may be a convenient moment for the Committee to adjourn.
Baroness Wilcox | 699 c109-10GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 24A: 24A: Clause 8, page 7, line 1, leave out subsection (8) The noble Barone...
Lord Wedderburn of Charlton | 699 c104GC (Link to this contribution) I put on record that I referred to the regulations of 2004: Regulation 18(7)(b) and (c). I shall not...
Baroness Turner of Camden | 699 c97GC (Link to this contribution) I support the amendment. My noble friends and I have something of a track record on whistleblowing. ...
Lord Wedderburn of Charlton | 699 c92-3GC (Link to this contribution) I ask the Committee to remember that the words about abuse, the use of economic power and the like, ...
Lord Jones of Birmingham | 699 c91-2GC (Link to this contribution) I remind the Committee that I was referring to the review that was undertaken. While undertaking tha...
Lord Watson of Invergowrie | 699 c87-9GC (Link to this contribution) I support the noble Lord, Lord Henley, on that point, although, I make clear, on nothing else that h...
Lord Henley | 699 c87GC (Link to this contribution) I do not accept that point. It is perfectly legitimate for us to discuss the matter in advance of th...
Lord Razzall | 699 c87GC (Link to this contribution) I make it clear that of course I was not suggesting that because the Prime Minister is discussing th...
Baroness Turner of Camden | 699 c78-9GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 20: 20: After Clause 5, insert the following new Clause— ““Tribunal proceeding...
Lord Campbell of Alloway | 699 c79GC (Link to this contribution) I wholly accept the principle of the amendment but I am puzzled about the steps to be taken. What so...
Lord Wedderburn of Charlton | 699 c78GC (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord is very kind, and I promise to send him a much more extensive reading list than I men...
Lord Jones of Birmingham | 699 c79-80GC (Link to this contribution) I sympathise with the intention behind the amendment, but the results would not be workable in pract...
Lord Jones of Birmingham | 699 c72-3GC (Link to this contribution) I thank my noble friend Lord Wedderburn for that walk through the past 100 years of mediation legisl...
Lord Wedderburn of Charlton | 699 c74GC (Link to this contribution) Does the Minister remember that in the year that the Employment Tribunals Service carried out its in...
Lord Jones of Birmingham | 699 c74GC (Link to this contribution) I assure my noble friend that I am certainly on the side of 17 per cent. I am amazed that it is so l...
Lord Wedderburn of Charlton | 699 c76GC (Link to this contribution) When the noble Lord comes to rethink the amendment, will he again consider his remarks about the wor...
Lord Bach | 699 c113GC (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may repeat myself for a moment. The power to copy information in Section 14(1) of the Nati...
Lord Razzall | 699 c105-6GC (Link to this contribution) I support the amendment of the noble Lord, Lord Wedderburn. He is entirely right that it raises conc...
Lord Bach | 699 c107GC (Link to this contribution) I thank my noble friend Lord Wedderburn for raising the issue. We know that the number of unpaid awa...
Lord Bach | 699 c107-9GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my noble friend, but he will not be surprised to hear that my officials have alread...
Lord Wedderburn of Charlton | 699 c109GC (Link to this contribution) I thank all noble Lords who have spoken in the debate—the noble Lord, Lord Razzall, my noble friend ...
Baroness Wilcox | 699 c112GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for the time and trouble he has taken to respond to my question. The good news ...
Lord Bach | 699 c110-2GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Baroness who has started our—brief, I hope—discussion of the national min...
Lord Jones of Birmingham | 699 c101GC (Link to this contribution) Surely, if my noble friend is looking for the sense of justice to which he has just referred and the...
Lord Borrie | 699 c100GC (Link to this contribution) First, I thank my noble friend Lady Turner of Camden for her support. That comes from extremely long...
Baroness Perry of Southwark | 699 c101GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 23: 23: After Clause 6, insert the following new Clause— ““Restriction of friv...
Lord Borrie | 699 c101GC (Link to this contribution) It would not be helpful for me to pursue the matter further. I rest my case and beg leave to withdra...
Lord Jones of Birmingham | 699 c103-4GC (Link to this contribution) I am particularly grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Henley, for his observations on who started this ...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 699 c65-7GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 17: 17: Clause 5, page 4, line 21, at end insert— ““( ) In subsection (2), for...
Lord Wedderburn of Charlton | 699 c65GC (Link to this contribution) With leave, I wish to make a personal statement of apology to the Committee about the way in which t...
Lord Henley | 699 c71GC (Link to this contribution) I am talking at this stage more generally about mediation over the entire civil field. I cannot reca...
Lord Henley | 699 c70-1GC (Link to this contribution) I rise briefly to support my noble friend’s amendment. Like him, I declare an interest as I am also ...
Lord Borrie | 699 c67GC (Link to this contribution) I have a great deal of sympathy with what has been said by the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, and I admire t...
Lord Wedderburn of Charlton | 699 c67-70GC (Link to this contribution) With respect to the noble Lord who moved the amendment, two things must be made clear. I feel like s...
Baroness Wilcox | 699 c97-8GC (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord, Lord Borrie, does not do himself proud enough when he introduces this amendment. Ten...
Lord Jones of Birmingham | 699 c93-4GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my noble friend Lord Wedderburn for making a plea for fairness in the workplace. We...
Lord Jones of Birmingham | 699 c98-9GC (Link to this contribution) Amendment No. 22 seeks publication of the papers in tribunal claims which have been determined, with...
Lord Campbell of Alloway | 699 c86GC (Link to this contribution) We are not in the Appellate Committee; I shall certainly not start a technical argument with the nob...
Lord Henley | 699 c86-7GC (Link to this contribution) It is a very interesting constitutional point that we cannot discuss anything until the Prime Minist...
Lord Campbell of Alloway | 699 c85GC (Link to this contribution) With the greatest respect to the noble Lord and the noble Baroness, I oppose the amendment. I accept...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 699 c77GC (Link to this contribution) It was certainly well worth waiting for the Minister to speak again to hear him say clearly that the...
Lord Wedderburn of Charlton | 699 c79GC (Link to this contribution) I support my noble friend’s amendment but with one reservation. I may be unduly sensitive to this be...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 699 c75-6GC (Link to this contribution) The responses of my noble friend Lord Henley and the Minister have been well worth waiting for. I wa...
Subjects
Disclosure of information
Conditions of employment
Compensation
ACAS
Employment
Industrial disputes
Health and safety
Employment agencies
Minimum wage
Temporary employment
Tribunals
Legislation
Employment Bill (HL) 2007-08
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