Health Bill. Lords Committee stage fifth day. Grand Committee off the floor of the House (Moses Room). Clauses 16 to 35 agreed to, clauses 17, 18, 19 agreed to as amended. Clause 36 under consideration.
Health Bill
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Parliamentary proceeding
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682 c87-144GC
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2005-06
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Committee stage
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords Grand Committee
Health Bill. Brought from the Commons. Explanatory Notes HL Bill 76-EN also published.
Wednesday, 15 February 2006
Bills
House of Lords
Wednesday, 15 February 2006
Bills
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Baroness Barker | 682 c87GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 62:"Page 12, line 45, at end insert—""““( ) When the Secretary of State is n...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 682 c93-5GC (Link to this contribution)
Clause 17 enables regulations to be made so that all NHS healthcare organisations including foundati...
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Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 682 c98-9GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 70:"After Clause 18, insert the following new clause—"
““MEANING OF ““RELEVANT...
Lord Warner | 682 c143-4GC (Link to this contribution)
The Government are committed to delivering, where appropriate, an increased volume and range of serv...
Lord Warner | 682 c144GC (Link to this contribution)
I think this may be a convenient moment for the Committee to adjourn until Thursday at 2 pm.
Baroness Murphy | 682 c106GC (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for his full exposition of the thinking behind these clauses. I welcome in part...
Baroness Cumberlege | 682 c133GC (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps I may also press the Minister further on that. I am grateful for the knowledge that I have g...
Lord Carter | 682 c126-7GC (Link to this contribution)
I am glad to add my name to Amendment No. 96A which, as the noble Baroness, Lady Finlay, has pointed...
Baroness Murphy | 682 c121GC (Link to this contribution)
To add to what the noble Earl said, we just want to seek reassurance here that the proper profession...
Countess of Mar | 682 c87GC (Link to this contribution)
If there is a Division in the Chamber while we are sitting, this Committee will adjourn as soon as t...
Lord Warner | 682 c88-9GC (Link to this contribution)
The noble Earl took the words right out of my brief. The amendment would provide a perverse incentiv...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 682 c91GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 66:"Page 16, line 35, leave out ““a person”” and insert ““an individual””"
The ...
Earl Howe | 682 c89-90GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 64:"Page 15, line 14, after ““known”” insert ““for the purposes of this Chapter”...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 682 c100-1GC (Link to this contribution)
Amendment No. 71 would allow the RPSGB to authorise individuals to have the power of entry and inspe...
Earl Howe | 682 c101GC (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for her reply and explanation of why the Royal Pharmaceutical Society inspector...
Earl Howe | 682 c144GC (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Minister for that very helpful reply. As a general comment, it makes sense to l...
Baroness Murphy | 682 c102-3GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 74:"Page 22, line 12, after ““done,”” insert ““but may not provide for or author...
Earl Howe | 682 c107-8GC (Link to this contribution)
I strongly support the arguments advanced by the noble Baroness. Amendment No. 77 in this group is n...
Baroness Murphy | 682 c108-9GC (Link to this contribution)
I have added my name in support of Amendment No. 77 in this group. I am concerned about the potentia...
Baroness Barker | 682 c111GC (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for his detailed answer. He said in response to the earlier amendment of the no...
Earl Howe | 682 c135-7GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 87:"Page 30, leave out lines 16 to 25."
The noble Earl said: In moving on to Cl...
Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 682 c137GC (Link to this contribution)
I would like to express a further concern in this area. Small pharmacists provide an important servi...
Lord Warner | 682 c141GC (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps I can help the noble Earl without going through the individual issues again. The noble Earl ...
Earl Howe | 682 c142GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 90:"Page 31, line 9, at end insert—"
““( ) a primary acute referral servic...
Baroness Cumberlege | 682 c127-8GC (Link to this contribution)
I, too, support the amendments. I am very grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Carter, for referring to ...
Lord Warner | 682 c133GC (Link to this contribution)
I gave that explanation in some detail in the response I made earlier. I am happy to put that in wri...
Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 682 c132-3GC (Link to this contribution)
Before the Minister sits down, perhaps I could, first, thank him for his response, and, secondly, as...
Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 682 c123-6GC (Link to this contribution)
I begin by declaring my interests in all aspects of palliative care. I am most grateful to the noble...
Lord Warner | 682 c116-7GC (Link to this contribution)
Section 72A(7)(b) makes specific provisions for regulations in respect of the responsible pharmacist...
Baroness Murphy | 682 c116GC (Link to this contribution)
I add my support to this amendment. We have explored in some detail what ““absence from the premises...
Earl Howe | 682 c115GC (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Minister. In what he just said, the emphasis was on the word ““experience”” rat...
Lord Warner | 682 c114-5GC (Link to this contribution)
Section 72A clarifies the responsibilities of the pharmacist in charge of the pharmacy. He or she wi...
Earl Howe | 682 c113-4GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 78A:"Page 26, leave out lines 1 and 2."
The noble Earl said: The National Pharm...
Earl Howe | 682 c113GC (Link to this contribution)
It was very helpful to have such a comprehensive reply from the Minister, which will be on the recor...
Earl Howe | 682 c87GC (Link to this contribution)
If the amendment were to be accepted, would it not provide an incentive to NHS trusts not to try ver...
Baroness Barker | 682 c87-8GC (Link to this contribution)
In the unlikely event of the amendment being accepted, the noble Earl might have a case. There is a ...
Baroness Barker | 682 c89GC (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for that answer. Out there and right now trusts are facing deficits amounting t...
Earl Howe | 682 c91GC (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Minister for that very helpful reply. I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.
A...
Earl Howe | 682 c95GC (Link to this contribution)
I am not so sure about that—the Minister has done pretty well, and covered the ground admirably. I a...
Earl Howe | 682 c91-3GC (Link to this contribution)
I should like to spend a few moments looking at Clause 17 in the round, not in any way in a spirit o...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 682 c95GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 67:"Page 17, line 7, leave out ““individuals”” and insert ““persons (see section...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 682 c97-8GC (Link to this contribution)
Amendment No. 68 would allow for regulations to be made on measures to safeguard the confidentiality...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 682 c98GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 69:"Page 18, line 22, leave out paragraph (d)."
On Question, amendment agreed t...
Lord Warner | 682 c103-6GC (Link to this contribution)
I hope that I will be able to give the noble Baroness some reassurance. Before addressing these amen...
Lord Warner | 682 c111GC (Link to this contribution)
I think that we are doing something here about future proofing, but I shall try to respond to the no...
Lord Warner | 682 c137-40GC (Link to this contribution)
This group comprises Amendments Nos. 87, 88 and 89, as well as the question that Clause 34 stand par...
Earl Howe | 682 c141-2GC (Link to this contribution)
I think the noble Baroness makes an extremely good point. Of course the Minister is right that acces...
Baroness Barker | 682 c127GC (Link to this contribution)
I congratulate the noble Baroness, Lady Finlay of Llandaff, on taking a leaf out of the book of the ...
Earl Howe | 682 c133-4GC (Link to this contribution)
The Minister has very graciously entered into the spirit of these amendments, for which on behalf of...
Earl Howe | 682 c122-3GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 82A:"After Clause 32, insert the following new clause—"
““PALLIATIVE CARE SERV...
Earl Howe | 682 c122GC (Link to this contribution)
I could not wish for a more clear-cut answer than that and I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.
A...
Earl Howe | 682 c112-3GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 78:"Page 25, line 28, after ““procedures”” insert ““(including explicit lines of...
Earl Howe | 682 c117-8GC (Link to this contribution)
That was a helpful reply from the Minister to what I had intended as a probing amendment. I certainl...
Earl Howe | 682 c115-6GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 79:"Page 26, line 3, at end insert—"
““( ) the conditions under which an ab...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 682 c90-1GC (Link to this contribution)
This amendment seeks to limit the role of the accountable officer to take responsibility for the man...
Countess of Mar | 682 c93GC (Link to this contribution)
There is a Division in the House. The Committee will adjourn for 10 minutes, so I suggest that we co...
Earl Howe | 682 c95-7GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 68:"Page 17, line 47, at end insert—"
““( ) for measures designed to safeg...
Baroness Barker | 682 c97GC (Link to this contribution)
I support the amendment of the noble Earl, Lord Howe, in part. The issue of information about medici...
Earl Howe | 682 c99-100GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 71:"Page 19, line 4, at end insert—"
““( ) a person authorised by the Phar...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 682 c101-2GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 72:"Page 19, line 11, after ““body”” insert ““specified, or””"
The noble Barone...
Earl Howe | 682 c98GC (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Minister for her reply and for her assurance that in the vast majority of cases...
Baroness Cumberlege | 682 c142-3GC (Link to this contribution)
I support my noble friend; I think he has put the case very succinctly. I am aware that the Governme...
Baroness Barker | 682 c106-7GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 76:"Page 25, line 24, leave out from ““time”” to end of line 26."
The noble Bar...
Lord Warner | 682 c109-11GC (Link to this contribution)
Let me begin by clearly stating the Government’s position. We believe that the general rule should b...
Baroness Barker | 682 c111-2GC (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for that reply. I know that he was trying to be helpful. I have never been to G...
Earl Howe | 682 c135GC (Link to this contribution)
I think that I could take those ideas away to consider for the Report stage and I am grateful to the...
Baroness Barker | 682 c137GC (Link to this contribution)
In speaking to the amendment I shall also speak to Amendments Nos. 88 and 89, which are grouped with...
Earl Howe | 682 c140GC (Link to this contribution)
I take the point that access to over-the-counter medicines is an important issue; that is not in any...
Baroness Barker | 682 c141GC (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for that reply, but can he understand that some of us have witnessed the demise...
Lord Warner | 682 c128-32GC (Link to this contribution)
I congratulate Members of the Committee on ensuring that we have had a good debate on palliative car...
Lord Warner | 682 c133GC (Link to this contribution)
On that latter point we are, as I have tried to say in my rapid canter through this complex and impo...
Lord Warner | 682 c134-5GC (Link to this contribution)
Amendments Nos. 83 to 85 seek to amend Clause 33 so that the Secretary of State may set charges only...
Earl Howe | 682 c134GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 83:"Page 28, line 31, leave out from ““may”” to ““to”” in line 32 and insert ““b...
Baroness Murphy | 682 c119GC (Link to this contribution)
I have added my name to these amendments for a slightly different reason. I wish to explore whether ...
Lord Warner | 682 c119-21GC (Link to this contribution)
Let me first respond to Amendment No. 80. I remind the Committee that Sections 10 and 52 of the Medi...
Earl Howe | 682 c121GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 82:"Page 26, line 17, at end insert—"
““( ) No regulations may be made und...
Earl Howe | 682 c121GC (Link to this contribution)
That reply from the Minister provides clarity and a good measure of reassurance to those in the phar...
Lord Warner | 682 c121-2GC (Link to this contribution)
I am happy to try to give a reassurance here. This part of the Bill inserts new sections into the Me...
Earl Howe | 682 c118-9GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 80:"Page 26, line 3, at end insert—"
““( ) the activities which the respon...
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