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High Speed Rail (London–West Midlands) Bill

Lords committee stage second day. Clauses 36 to 69 agreed to, with clauses 65 and 67 agreed to as amended. Schedules 1 to 32 agreed to, with schedules 2, 14, 21, 25 and 32 agreed to as amended. Bill, as amended, ordered to be printed (HL Bill 92).
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Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
777 cc109-158GC 
Session
2016-17
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords Grand Committee
High Speed Rail (London-West Midlands) Bill 2013-14 to 2015-16. Brought from the Commons
Wednesday, 23 March 2016
Bills
House of Lords
Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee seventh report.
Wednesday, 9 November 2016
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
High Speed Rail (London-West Midlands) Bill 2013-14 to 2016-17. As amended in Committee.
Thursday, 12 January 2017
Bills
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Lord Berkeley | 777 c109GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Berkeley

17: After Clause 35, insert the following new Clause—

“R...

Lord Berkeley | 777 cc109-110GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 17 is to do with the restriction of lorries and road use. I declare an intere...


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Baroness Randerson | 777 cc110-1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I start by referring to the excellent committee report which refers to this issue in de...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 777 cc111-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, first, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Berkeley, and the noble Baroness, Lady Randerson, f...

Lord Berkeley | 777 c113GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Baroness for supporting the amendment and for the Minister’s response,...

Lord Berkeley | 777 c113GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Berkeley

18: After Clause 38, insert the following new Clause—

“E...

Lord Framlingham | 777 c113GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, could I have an explanation on a point from Tuesday’s meeting of this Committee? I want...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 777 c113GC (Link to this contribution)

As I said on the previous Committee day, looking at public law clauses is what a Committee and a ...

Lord Berkeley | 777 cc113-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 18, standing in my name and that of the noble Lord, Lord Bradshaw, is to do w...

Lord Bradshaw | 777 c115GC (Link to this contribution)

I shall speak very briefly. The Minister has already said in reply to a previous amendment that l...

Baroness O'Cathain | 777 c115GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, perhaps we could probe this amendment. A lot of the work that we did on the Select Comm...

Lord Berkeley | 777 cc115-6GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Baroness for that question because she is absolutely right to seek a p...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 777 c116GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we have had extensive discussions on HGV routes and the role of the highways authoritie...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 777 cc116-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have taken part in this short debate. I recognise and endor...

Lord Berkeley | 777 c117GC (Link to this contribution)

I really am grateful to all noble Lords who have spoken because I think their words, experience a...

Lord Berkeley | 777 cc117-8GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Berkeley

19: After Clause 43, insert the following new Clause—

“A...

Lord Berkeley | 777 c118GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, for the convenience of the Committee, I can speak to Amendments 19 and 20 together, whi...

Lord Bradshaw | 777 c118GC (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I may just draw the Minister’s attention to the large number of occasions on which Minist...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 777 cc118-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank both noble Lords and I shall turn first to that final point. There are other Mi...

Lord Rosser | 777 c119GC (Link to this contribution)

On the question of the Government’s intentions in the longer term for HS2, recently we had an ann...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 777 c119GC (Link to this contribution)

My right honourable friend the Secretary of State referred to a specific line. I am sure that the...

Lord Berkeley | 777 c119GC (Link to this contribution)

My noble friend has to some extent pre-empted my Amendment 23, but we will come to that shortly. ...

Lord Berkeley | 777 c120GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Berkeley

21: After Clause 43, insert the following new Clause—

“C...

Lord Berkeley | 777 c120GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, again, I shall try to be quick. This amendment possibly links to what my noble friend L...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 777 cc120-1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, again, I note very carefully what the noble Lord, Lord Berkeley, has suggested. I canno...

Lord Rosser | 777 c121GC (Link to this contribution)

Can I be clear about what the Government’s intentions are, or whether they have still to be deter...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 777 c121GC (Link to this contribution)

I am not sure that the noble Lord heard me correctly. I am saying that an integrated approach to ...

Lord Berkeley | 777 c121GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister for most of that response although we may come back to some of it o...

Lord Berkeley | 777 c122GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Berkeley

22: After Clause 43, insert the following new Clause—

“D...

Lord Berkeley | 777 c122GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Minister kindly referred to the Railways (Access, Management and Licensing of Railw...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 777 cc122-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, with respect to this amendment, I should note that it is slightly at odds with the amen...

Lord Berkeley | 777 c123GC (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to the Minister for giving me that update on the freight situation. My amendme...

Lord Berkeley | 777 c123GC (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Berkeley

23: After Clause 43, insert the following new Clause—

“N...

Lord Berkeley | 777 cc123-4GC (Link to this contribution)

To some extent, one or two of my noble friends have already alluded to the matter in Amendment 23...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 777 c124GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord did mention freight on this occasion, but I will not go beyond the mere ...

Lord Berkeley | 777 c124GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister and I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.

Lord Berkeley | 777 c124GC (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Berkeley

24: After Clause 43, insert the following new Clause—

“H...

Lord Berkeley | 777 cc124-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am sorry to go on so long but we are nearly getting to the end.

Noble Lords may...

Lord Framlingham | 777 c125GC (Link to this contribution)

Is not the noble Lord talking about the old guards’ van?

Lord Berkeley | 777 c125GC (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord is tempting me to get on to the issue of guards, which I shall not do. The answer ...

Baroness Randerson | 777 cc125-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I recall the old luggage vans, although the Minister is far too young to remember thing...

Lord Adonis | 777 cc126-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the points made by the noble Baroness, Lady Randerson, and my noble friend Lord Berkele...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 777 cc127-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as somebody who puts his Brompton bike on a train every day when I come here, I partly ...

Lord Bradshaw | 777 c128GC (Link to this contribution)

Just to have a bit of up-to-date experience, I always travel on the bus in the morning. Yesterday...

Lord Rosser | 777 c128GC (Link to this contribution)

Can the Minister provide an assurance— I am sure that he will be able to—that these facilities wi...

Baroness Buscombe | 777 c128GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been a very useful debate, which gives us the opportunity to explain exactly w...

Baroness Buscombe | 777 cc128-9GC (Link to this contribution)

Oh! I beg your pardon. My noble friend has confirmed that he actually drove the train.

The ...

Lord Berkeley | 777 cc129-130GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to all noble Lords who contributed and to the Minister for her response. My noble f...

Lord Berkeley | 777 c130GC (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Berkeley

24A: After Clause 43, insert the following new Clause—

“...

Lord Berkeley | 777 cc130-1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is my last amendment in this section and it is to do with timetabling. Again, we h...

Lord Adonis | 777 cc131-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, unless I mistook what was going on, I have a feeling that the Minister has already repl...

Lord Framlingham | 777 c132GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise briefly to disagree with the noble Lord, Lord Adonis, and to support what the no...

Lord Adonis | 777 c132GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, just to be clear, the illustrative timetables have been published already and, indeed, ...

Lord Framlingham | 777 c132GC (Link to this contribution)

I hate to labour the point. I can understand why detailed timetables would not be wanted, but sur...

Baroness Buscombe | 777 cc132-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank noble Lords who have spoken in this brief debate. Perhaps I may say that the no...

Lord Berkeley | 777 c133GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister for that response. Indeed, I was not aware of the Treasury paper, w...

Lord Rosser | 777 c133GC (Link to this contribution)

I will make a point on Clause 53, which, if I have understood correctly, is one of the clauses th...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 777 c134GC (Link to this contribution)

I am just checking as I do not have a response. However, the Government will respond and we inten...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 777 c134GC (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon

29: Clause 65, page 32, line 17, at end insert “with...

Lord Berkeley | 777 c134GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Berkeley

30: After Clause 65, insert the following new Clause—

“C...

Lord Berkeley | 777 c134GC (Link to this contribution)

This is a probing amendment to find out from Ministers whether we intend to have the same kind of...

Baroness Pidding | 777 cc135-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have amendments in this group to which the noble Lord, Lord Stevenson of Balmacara, h...

Baroness Randerson | 777 c136GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we need something to deal with this issue, whatever form that “something” takes, and we...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 777 cc136-140GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I apologise for not being present at Tuesday’s Committee debate due to private reasons....

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 777 cc138-141GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not know where to start on the amendment after that omnibus. However, first, in re...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 777 c141GC (Link to this contribution)

I made it perfectly clear that I was in no sense criticising the committee. Obviously, I have let...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 777 cc141-2GC (Link to this contribution)

I am afraid that we will have to agree to disagree, because they did have the opportunity to make...

Baroness O'Cathain | 777 cc142-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I must correct two points that my noble friend made. The first was that the HS2 people ...

Lord Berkeley | 777 c143GC (Link to this contribution)

Noble Lords will be aware that there was a consultation on the hybrid Bill procedure, which close...

Lord Framlingham | 777 cc143-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in a sense this goes to the point I was trying to make when we first started about the ...

Lord Rosser | 777 c144GC (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I may raise one or two points on the issue that is set out in the amendment, which as I u...

Baroness Buscombe | 777 cc144-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to all noble Lords who have spoken to these amendments in the names of th...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 777 c146GC (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry to interrupt the Minister’s peroration but, while I understand the point about the con...

Baroness Buscombe | 777 cc146-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in response to the noble Lord’s question, it will continue to be the construction commi...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 777 c147GC (Link to this contribution)

The Minister has comprehensively covered most of the territory, but I want to address the point t...

Baroness Buscombe | 777 c148GC (Link to this contribution)

I am extremely grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Young of Norwood Green. He is absolutely right th...

Lord Berkeley | 777 c148GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very grateful to the Minister for her response and to colleagues for their comment...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 777 c148GC (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon

39: Clause 67, page 33, line 13, at end insert—

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Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 777 c149GC (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon

46: Schedule 2, page 109, line 3, leave out “2010 (S...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 777 c149GC (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon

47: Schedule 14, page 316, line 7, leave out paragra...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 777 c149GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as noble Lords know, the Bill applies the statutory compulsory acquisition regime to en...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 777 cc150-1GC (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon

48: Schedule 14, page 316, line 18, leave out from “...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 777 cc151-2GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara

65: After Schedule 16, insert the following new ...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 777 c152GC (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move this amendment standing in my name. I realise that my following remarks risk throwi...

Lord Framlingham | 777 c152GC (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry to interrupt the noble Lord, but he was not here on Tuesday, when I think that the Min...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 777 cc152-4GC (Link to this contribution)

I have taken note of and am aware of that, but a response is not a debate. While of course I am l...

Lord Rosser | 777 c153GC (Link to this contribution)

In part, the amendment moved by my noble friend Lord Stevenson of Balmacara, relates to an issue ...

Lord Berkeley | 777 c153GC (Link to this contribution)

To add to that, I have also heard that same rumour from some of the local residents. It is partic...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 777 cc155-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Stevenson, for his contributions, and the noble Lords, Lor...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 777 c156GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for that full response. I think that one would be more inclined to accept it...

Lord Berkeley | 777 c156GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Berkeley

66: Schedule 17, page 348, line 24, leave out paragraph (a)

Lord Berkeley | 777 cc156-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I think this is the last amendment of the day. My reason for putting this down was to p...

Baroness Buscombe | 777 c157GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is important that I get this right. This amendment seeks to restrict the ability of ...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 777 c157GC (Link to this contribution)

I think I can be of some help, because we had significant discussions on this issue. Some of the ...

Baroness Buscombe | 777 c157GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Young of Norwood Green, for his very helpful intervention. ...

Lord Berkeley | 777 c158GC (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to the Minister. I had hoped that that would be the answer and it gives me gre...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 777 c158GC (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon

67: Schedule 21, page 385, line 2, leave out “2010 (...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 777 c158GC (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon

70: Schedule 25, page 394, line 7, leave out “or 6” ...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 777 c158GC (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon

71: Schedule 32, page 419, line 34, leave out “Energ...

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