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Dog Control and Welfare

Adjournment debate and Debates on select committee report on Thursday, 13 June 2013, in the House of Commons, led by Baroness McIntosh of Pickering. The answering member was David Heath.
Third debate on the seventh report of the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Committee, Session 2012-13, Dog Control and Welfare, HC 575, and the Government response, HC 1092. Agreed to on question.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
564 cc121-160WH 
Session
2013-14
Chamber / Committee
Westminster Hall
Proceeding contributions
Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 564 cc121-2WH (Link to this contribution)

A very warm good afternoon to you, Mr Turner; I welcome you to your place. It is a pleasure to se...

Luciana Berger | 564 c122WH (Link to this contribution)

I know that all the families affected will welcome this debate. Does the hon. Lady share my conce...


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Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 564 c122WH (Link to this contribution)

I think that the Committee would like to record our disappointment that it took so long to produc...

Huw Irranca-Davies | 564 c123WH (Link to this contribution)

Could the Government make good that slight on the Committee by introducing draft guidance—they ha...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 564 cc123-4WH (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman, and I am sure that the Minister will have heard his remarks;...

Geoffrey Clifton-Brown | 564 c124WH (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my hon. Friend the Chair of the Select Committee for her excellent speech, and I...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 564 c124WH (Link to this contribution)

I welcome my hon. Friend’s intervention. It is important that we get the measure right. The paral...

Roger Williams | 564 c124WH (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Chair of the Select Committee for giving way and compliment her on her report. She ma...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 564 cc124-5WH (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend reinforces the Select Committee’s point that the microchip is a tool but not the w...

Luciana Berger | 564 c125WH (Link to this contribution)

As the hon. Lady rightly highlights, the CWU makes that point strongly, because of the number of ...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 564 c125WH (Link to this contribution)

The Committee and I welcome what the hon. Lady says. When I visited the Blue Cross home in my own...

Huw Irranca-Davies | 564 c125WH (Link to this contribution)

Once again, I commend the Chair of the Select Committee on her contribution. Does she agree that ...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 564 c126WH (Link to this contribution)

I welcome the intervention by the hon. Gentleman; I am tempted to call him my hon. Friend. On a n...

Luciana Berger | 564 c126WH (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady has been generous in allowing me to make many interventions. On the point about bre...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 564 cc126-7WH (Link to this contribution)

Indeed. That was one of our conclusions. One hesitates to use the word “bitch”, but in this debat...

Julie Hilling | 564 c127WH (Link to this contribution)

As with driving offences, we must differentiate between those people who are deliberately setting...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 564 cc127-8WH (Link to this contribution)

Indeed. I am grateful to the hon. Lady for those comments. I do not know if that was what the sha...

Julie Hilling | 564 cc128-130WH (Link to this contribution)

I start by saying how much I welcome the two reports on this issue from the Environment, Food and...

Luciana Berger | 564 c130WH (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend share my concern that the Government’s proposals in the Anti-social Behaviour...

Julie Hilling | 564 c130WH (Link to this contribution)

I agree, and because the proposals are subsumed in antisocial behaviour legislation, not enough p...

Huw Irranca-Davies | 564 c130WH (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes a good point about prioritising the matter among the wide range of measures ...

Julie Hilling | 564 c130WH (Link to this contribution)

I agree. My hon. Friend raises some important points.

The dog control notice could say, “Ke...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 564 c130WH (Link to this contribution)

I am a little concerned that in the debate about dog control notices, which, for the reasons the ...

Julie Hilling | 564 c131WH (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely. I agree that people may be concerned that it is cruel to keep a dog muzzled. However,...

Luciana Berger | 564 c131WH (Link to this contribution)

May I correct the record? I previously said that 20,000 people had signed the petition, but the f...

Julie Hilling | 564 cc131-2WH (Link to this contribution)

I join my hon. Friend in congratulating the people involved. Dogs are similar to children, and ea...

Andrew Turner | 564 c132WH (Link to this contribution)

Order. There are about 15 minutes per person remaining.

2.15 pm

Neil Parish | 564 cc132-4WH (Link to this contribution)

It is a great pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Turner. I will try to ensure that my ...

Julie Hilling | 564 c133WH (Link to this contribution)

Local authorities spend about £57 million a year on kennelling costs, when dogs are thought to be...

Neil Parish | 564 cc133-5WH (Link to this contribution)

The Blue Cross hospital here in London might have dogs of a breed that is considered vicious, yet...

George Eustice | 564 cc135-7WH (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for the opportunity to speak, Mr Turner, and I am sorry that I was a few minutes la...

Geoffrey Clifton-Brown | 564 cc137-140WH (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful that I have caught your eye, Mr Turner. Dogs’ hackles are up and their hair is on e...

Huw Irranca-Davies | 564 cc140-3WH (Link to this contribution)

I am delighted that we are able to debate this important issue in response to the seventh report ...

Geoffrey Clifton-Brown | 564 c143WH (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman agree that this is precisely the type of issue that needs to be widely co...

Huw Irranca-Davies | 564 c143WH (Link to this contribution)

Very much so. The hon. Gentleman made that point well in terms of the organisational structure th...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 564 c144WH (Link to this contribution)

To put the hon. Gentleman’s mind at rest, I can tell him that when we looked at the issue in our ...

Huw Irranca-Davies | 564 c144WH (Link to this contribution)

I welcome that intervention, and I welcome the fact that the Committee’s thinking has evolved bas...

Huw Irranca-Davies | 564 cc144-5WH (Link to this contribution)

The Minister is nodding, so I know he is going to say a lot of good things in his response.

Huw Irranca-Davies | 564 c145WH (Link to this contribution)

I see the Minister shaking his head and I know that he will come back on that issue. I am glad to...

Geoffrey Clifton-Brown | 564 c146WH (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for giving way twice, but I believe that we have time to deba...

Huw Irranca-Davies | 564 cc146-9WH (Link to this contribution)

I hope that the hon. Gentleman will be on the Committee—I will not be—because I think that is an ...

David Heath | 564 cc148-150WH (Link to this contribution)

We have had an excellent debate. I commend the hon. Member for

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Huw Irranca-Davies | 564 c150WH (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister confirm that Lord de Mauley—great chap that he is—chairs some cross-Whitehall g...

David Heath | 564 cc150-2WH (Link to this contribution)

He has certainly been working closely with others, including the devolved Administrations—but par...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 564 c152WH (Link to this contribution)

I should declare that I am a Scottish advocate, albeit a non-practising one. I am aware of the cr...

David Heath | 564 cc152-3WH (Link to this contribution)

That is where we need detailed and careful examination of the proposals. I accept the point that ...

Huw Irranca-Davies | 564 c153WH (Link to this contribution)

I am tempted to use, or subvert, an old adage, and say that I have been patronised in better plac...

David Heath | 564 cc153-4WH (Link to this contribution)

I very much understand that, having sat in more Bill Committees over the years than I care to enu...

Julie Hilling | 564 c154WH (Link to this contribution)

I may be pre-empting the Minister’s comments, but another concern is about prioritising and resou...

David Heath | 564 cc154-5WH (Link to this contribution)

That is difficult for me to answer, because it will be in the hands of local authorities in combi...

Huw Irranca-Davies | 564 c155WH (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for his explanation. To give him some comfort, when I was in his position an...

David Heath | 564 c155WH (Link to this contribution)

Having now conceded the fact that when he was in my position in government he received exactly th...

David Heath | 564 c155WH (Link to this contribution)

I will certainly discuss with my noble Friend whether the matter commends itself to him, and he w...

Huw Irranca-Davies | 564 c155WH (Link to this contribution)

It would be a great test for your civil servants.

David Heath | 564 cc155-6WH (Link to this contribution)

It might be a good examination question—we sometimes refer such matters to the Law Commission for...

David Heath | 564 c156WH (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry; I am behind the times. It was Tewkesbury. I say to my hon. Friend the Member for The ...

Huw Irranca-Davies | 564 c156WH (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for the detailed responses that he has given. I do not want to pre-empt subs...

David Heath | 564 cc156-7WH (Link to this contribution)

That pre-empts not only the legislation but the secondary legislation that we are introducing, al...

Geoffrey Clifton-Brown | 564 c157WH (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend has been speaking for a long time and has given us a huge amount of detailed infor...

David Heath | 564 cc157-8WH (Link to this contribution)

I most certainly will. I have the unprecedented benefit of having rather longer than usual to rep...

George Eustice | 564 c158WH (Link to this contribution)

The point I was making is that there would be clarity if the number was simply two litters. Local...

David Heath | 564 cc158-9WH (Link to this contribution)

I do not think that it would be a defence to say that there were fewer than five litters. It woul...

Geoffrey Clifton-Brown | 564 c159WH (Link to this contribution)

I hear what the Minister says, but it seems that the support council was set up with undue haste ...

David Heath | 564 c159WH (Link to this contribution)

I cannot answer that because the council is not a body of Government; it is independent of Govern...

David Heath | 564 c159WH (Link to this contribution)

Obviously, the hon. Member for Ogmore feels that I have not spoken for long enough, so I give way...

Huw Irranca-Davies | 564 c159WH (Link to this contribution)

The Minister is being generous. I do not want to take time away from the hon. Member for Thirsk a...

David Heath | 564 cc159-160WH (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman, because I did miss that out. At the moment, there is no evid...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 564 c160WH (Link to this contribution)

I welcome you to the Chair, Mr Brady. I thank the Liaison Committee for allowing us to debate the...

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