London Olympic Games and Paralympic Games (Amendment) Bill. Second reading debate. Agreed to on question. Programme motion on proceedings in Public Bill Committee, on Report, Third Reading and any other proceedings. Agreed to on question.
London Olympic Games and Paralympic Games (Amendment) Bill
Debate on bills on Thursday, 28 April 2011,
in the House of Commons,
led by Hugh Robertson.
The answering
member was Baroness Jowell.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
527 c363-418 
Session
2010-12
Legislative stage
Second reading
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
London Olympic Games and Paralympic Games (Amendment) Bill. Explanatory Notes Bill 165-EN also published. (Vote)
Wednesday, 16 March 2011
Bills
House of Commons
Wednesday, 16 March 2011
Bills
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
Hugh Robertson | 527 c363 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time.
Since 2006, when the London Olympic Games a...
Edward Timpson | 527 c363 (Link to this contribution)
A concern that has been raised about other sporting events is that, despite high ticket sales, the s...
Show all contributions (109)
Hugh Robertson | 527 c364 (Link to this contribution)
Given the almost unparalleled level of interest in ticket applications, it is pretty unlikely that a...
Mark Field | 527 c364 (Link to this contribution)
To pick up on that point, will the Minister make clear what arrangements there will be for a seconda...
Mark Field | 527 c366 (Link to this contribution)
Although I accept, as the Minister says, that the Bill makes minor amendments to the legislation tha...
Hugh Robertson | 527 c365-6 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman raises an extremely good point, which I will answer peripherally before coming on...
Bob Stewart | 527 c365 (Link to this contribution)
Is there an allocation of tickets for disabled ex-servicemen and women, perhaps through the Royal Br...
Hugh Robertson | 527 c365 (Link to this contribution)
I have not made those concerns public, and that is, rightly, a matter for Tottenham Hotspur. I am co...
Andrew Love | 527 c364 (Link to this contribution)
I want to raise this issue before the Minister moves on to the terms of the Bill. It relates to the ...
Hugh Robertson | 527 c364 (Link to this contribution)
I absolutely agree with my hon. Friend. There is the quid pro quo that if one has tough anti-touting...
Hugh Robertson | 527 c366-7 (Link to this contribution)
I think the best way of answering that is to say that I note the concerns. There is a fine line, and...
Hugh Robertson | 527 c375 (Link to this contribution)
There is no such measure in the Bill. I would need to take the advice of the drafting clerks, but my...
Bob Blackman | 527 c375 (Link to this contribution)
If my hon. Friend came to Stanmore and Queensbury when Wembley station was in operation, he would fi...
Hugh Robertson | 527 c376-7 (Link to this contribution)
I can absolutely give the hon. Gentleman that assurance. I know that the Mayor has for obvious reaso...
Jim Fitzpatrick | 527 c376 (Link to this contribution)
I seek some reassurance. While we are on the question of reputations and the Jubilee line, will the ...
Hugh Robertson | 527 c376 (Link to this contribution)
I can confirm that part of the commitment on the Olympic route network is that there will be no road...
Mike Freer | 527 c376 (Link to this contribution)
On the general point about the extent of the Olympic route network, especially the alternative netwo...
Jim Fitzpatrick | 527 c379 (Link to this contribution)
I hesitate to ask, but does my right hon. Friend think that one of the mayoral candidates is more fa...
Hugh Robertson | 527 c377 (Link to this contribution)
I thank my hon. Friend for that intervention—I nearly got through, didn’t I? I am glad to say that t...
Richard Ottaway | 527 c377 (Link to this contribution)
I apologise for intervening during the Minister’s conclusion, but I wanted to catch him before he sa...
Baroness Jowell | 527 c379-81 (Link to this contribution)
The passion of our former hon. Friend, the former Member for Brent, East and former Mayor of London,...
Hugh Robertson | 527 c383 (Link to this contribution)
Obviously I explained the position very badly in my speech. Not all enforcement officers will come f...
Lyn Brown | 527 c385-7 (Link to this contribution)
This is not my first speech on the Olympics. I remember being in the House on the day that London wo...
David Burrowes | 527 c384-5 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for that clarification. Certainly all available expertise should be used, but I hope t...
Lyn Brown | 527 c387-9 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Minister for that clarification. I agree that there was substantial debate on t...
Hugh Robertson | 527 c387 (Link to this contribution)
I can immediately set the hon. Lady’s mind at rest on this point. There is a very tight exclusion zo...
Gloria De Piero | 527 c389 (Link to this contribution)
On a point of order, Mr Deputy Speaker. Earlier today, the Under-Secretary of State for Culture, Oly...
Speaker | 527 c389 (Link to this contribution)
Order. I am allowing a bit of latitude and I hope that Members will still remember to refer to the B...
Speaker | 527 c389 (Link to this contribution)
It is not a matter for the Chair to do that. The hon. Lady has rightly put this on the record and I ...
Hugh Robertson | 527 c396 (Link to this contribution)
I made an undertaking on Second Reading of the hon. Lady’s Bill to look at that issue again, notwith...
Sharon Hodgson | 527 c394-6 (Link to this contribution)
I did not intend to expand on that point, but if I had responded, without your intervention, Mr Depu...
Speaker | 527 c394 (Link to this contribution)
Order. I have allowed latitude but I do not want us to get into a political row. This has been a goo...
Lord Foster of Bath | 527 c393-4 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Minister for that response. I apologise to the hon. Member for Washington and S...
Hugh Robertson | 527 c393 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the right hon. Gentleman for giving way. I can see the hon. Member for Washington and Sunder...
Lord Foster of Bath | 527 c389-93 (Link to this contribution)
I am not only particularly grateful to you for calling me, Mr Deputy Speaker, but I am particularly ...
Hugh Robertson | 527 c397 (Link to this contribution)
Specific high-profile events.
Sharon Hodgson | 527 c396-7 (Link to this contribution)
I do not want to get into an argument with the Minister—heaven forbid—but when I met officers from O...
Bob Blackman | 527 c369 (Link to this contribution)
Can my hon. Friend tell the House the extent to which the ODA will have control? Olympic venues are ...
Hugh Robertson | 527 c369 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend asks a very good question. The key thing in dealing with people in that respect is ap...
Lord Barwell | 527 c367-8 (Link to this contribution)
In answering my hon. Friend the Member for Cities of London and Westminster (Mr Field), the Minister...
Hugh Robertson | 527 c368-9 (Link to this contribution)
That is an interesting one. I think it is pretty much a fact of public record who has built the vari...
Lord Beamish | 527 c369 (Link to this contribution)
Local authorities are having their budgets slashed by this Government. Will the Minister therefore m...
Hugh Robertson | 527 c369 (Link to this contribution)
Provision has been made in the budget for extra support to be given to local authorities for a varie...
Lord Beamish | 527 c369 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister says that local authorities will have an enforcement role. Has he estimated what additi...
Hugh Robertson | 527 c369 (Link to this contribution)
I apologise if I did not make that clear. The enforcement officers will, if possible, be drawn from ...
Mark Field | 527 c367 (Link to this contribution)
I accept that the 1908 and 1948 Olympics were nothing like as commercialised as next year’s will be....
Hugh Robertson | 527 c367 (Link to this contribution)
There is no sense at all that the requirements of the London Olympics are any more draconian than ha...
Hugh Robertson | 527 c370 (Link to this contribution)
The answer to that is, ““Not quite.”” The powers would normally be exercised by the police. Obviousl...
Mike Freer | 527 c370 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister spoke of the ODA being the enforcing authority in respect of ambush marketing, but then...
Hugh Robertson | 527 c370 (Link to this contribution)
If I understand my hon. Friend correctly—he can ask again if I do not answer him—the venues are not ...
Mike Freer | 527 c370 (Link to this contribution)
To clarify, is it true that there will be no further enforcement outside those clean areas?
Hugh Robertson | 527 c370-1 (Link to this contribution)
Correct—yes.
Infringing articles seized will be dealt with in accordance with clause 1, which sets ...
Hugh Robertson | 527 c372 (Link to this contribution)
Two things come to mind. During my time as a Minister, I have become aware that some of these sites ...
Lord Beamish | 527 c369 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister says that the Mayor controls the budget for London, but also referred to authorities ou...
Hugh Robertson | 527 c370 (Link to this contribution)
There is a distinction between the costs that the hon. Gentleman originally asked about—the costs fo...
Mark Field | 527 c370 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister clarify the situation in respect of powers of seizure over individuals, rather tha...
Christopher Chope | 527 c373 (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps before the end of the debate the Minister of State, Department for Transport, who is in her ...
Hugh Robertson | 527 c373-4 (Link to this contribution)
With all due respect, my hon. Friend has been in Parliament long enough to know that other Ministers...
Christopher Chope | 527 c373 (Link to this contribution)
The A31, which is the main route to the Weymouth venue, has a bottleneck at the Canford Bottom round...
Hugh Robertson | 527 c373 (Link to this contribution)
After some six years with this brief, I thought that I had come across almost everything, but the Ca...
Andrew Love | 527 c372 (Link to this contribution)
May I press the Minister on the illegal use of the internet? Although some sites may have been close...
Hugh Robertson | 527 c372-3 (Link to this contribution)
The short answer is that that is what the Bill is intended to do. The advice from the police is that...
Simon Hughes | 527 c372 (Link to this contribution)
I apologise for missing the beginning of the Minister’s speech, but this is the issue on which I wan...
Hugh Robertson | 527 c372 (Link to this contribution)
I can absolutely give my right hon. Friend those assurances. The firm conducting the ticketing opera...
Hugh Robertson | 527 c372 (Link to this contribution)
I absolutely agree, and I thank my right hon. Friend for making that point. As he says, Operation Po...
Hugh Robertson | 527 c375 (Link to this contribution)
No such provisions are proposed in the Bill. I could see that being quite a controversial power to g...
Hugh Robertson | 527 c374 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the hon. Gentleman for his intervention and for the initial work he did on this issue. I can...
Lord Barwell | 527 c374 (Link to this contribution)
Can my hon. Friend give the House an idea of the level of those penalty charge notices? Has the ODA ...
Hugh Robertson | 527 c375 (Link to this contribution)
No final decision has been taken, but I can assure my hon. Friend—if this is what is worrying him—th...
Bob Blackman | 527 c375 (Link to this contribution)
One of the principal concerns of residents in my constituency is that the whole of Harrow and Brent ...
Hugh Robertson | 527 c374 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend can have another go, but he will not get a different answer.
Christopher Chope | 527 c374 (Link to this contribution)
On the wider issue of the route network, games officials and competitors will not need to travel 24 ...
Hugh Robertson | 527 c374 (Link to this contribution)
Yes. There will not be a blanket restriction in force throughout the games. It will only be in force...
Jim Fitzpatrick | 527 c374 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for his kind words. When we launched the Olympic network consultation some year...
Christopher Chope | 527 c374 (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps I could have one more go—
Speaker | 527 c401 (Link to this contribution)
Order. I am going to help reassure the hon. Lady. We are dealing with the Bill and I have allowed a ...
Rushanara Ali | 527 c401 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for that response, but he should consider visiting my constituency and some of ...
Andrew Bingham | 527 c400 (Link to this contribution)
I am not sure whether my hon. Friend is a football supporter, but does he remember the similarly goo...
Richard Ottaway | 527 c400 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is absolutely right. There is a risk involved in this. If we get it right, it enhance...
Hugh Robertson | 527 c399 (Link to this contribution)
indicated assent.
Sharon Hodgson | 527 c397 (Link to this contribution)
““Specific high-profile events””: that recognises that the problem could go beyond the Olympic games...
Richard Ottaway | 527 c397-9 (Link to this contribution)
One of the noticeable features of today’s debate is the largely all-party spirit in which it has bee...
Andrew Bingham | 527 c404 (Link to this contribution)
On that point, does my hon. Friend hope to emulate the Manchester Commonwealth games of a few years ...
Mary MacLeod | 527 c404-6 (Link to this contribution)
I thank my hon. Friend for his intervention. Although London is the best city in the world, Manchest...
Bob Blackman | 527 c406-8 (Link to this contribution)
It is an honour to follow my hon. Friend the Member for Brentford and Isleworth (Mary Macleod) in sp...
Rushanara Ali | 527 c401 (Link to this contribution)
Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker. I hope that I will not stray beyond the Bill, but I would like to turn...
Speaker | 527 c402 (Link to this contribution)
Order. I am sure that the Minister is going to wait, and that if he wishes to intervene, he will do ...
Hugh Robertson | 527 c401 (Link to this contribution)
That is not in the Bill. It is an amending Bill.
Justin Tomlinson | 527 c403 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Lady can help on legacy by championing the school Olympics principle locally, which I have ...
Rushanara Ali | 527 c402-3 (Link to this contribution)
Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker.
There is great concern in my constituency about the need to ensure th...
Mary MacLeod | 527 c403-4 (Link to this contribution)
The Olympic and Paralympic games are events like no other. To have them happening here in London is ...
Rushanara Ali | 527 c403 (Link to this contribution)
Colleagues and I are working with LOCOG on that, and a number of schools have engaged, which is welc...
Christopher Chope | 527 c410-2 (Link to this contribution)
I wish that I could. When asked to describe it at the meeting, the officials said that they preferre...
Lord Foster of Bath | 527 c410 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is teasing the House to distraction. Would he be kind enough to give a clear desc...
Christopher Chope | 527 c409-10 (Link to this contribution)
I wish to address my relatively brief remarks to clause 4, which deals with traffic and is entitled ...
Andrew Bingham | 527 c408-9 (Link to this contribution)
I want to make just a few brief remarks about the ticket tout element of the Bill, which I fully sup...
Hugh Robertson | 527 c413-8 (Link to this contribution)
With the leave of the House, I will close the debate, which has been interesting. I am extremely gra...
Baroness Jowell | 527 c412-3 (Link to this contribution)
With the leave of the House, Madam Deputy Speaker, it gives me great pleasure to contribute to the c...
Baroness Jowell | 527 c378-9 (Link to this contribution)
Let me begin by saying that the Opposition are delighted to support the legislation. I thank the Min...
David Burrowes | 527 c381-3 (Link to this contribution)
As a London Member of Parliament, as a mad sports fan and, indeed, as an owner and friend of newts—t...
Lord Foster of Bath | 527 c372 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister join me in praising those in the police who are involved in Operation Podium and w...
Hugh Robertson | 527 c401 (Link to this contribution)
Just to be absolutely clear, there are no cuts to elite facility funding. The money that the previou...
Rushanara Ali | 527 c400-1 (Link to this contribution)
I am delighted to speak in this debate as a Member of Parliament from one of the host boroughs, the ...
Richard Ottaway | 527 c399-400 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister is nodding, so there is no need for him to deal with that when he winds up.
Let me dra...
Andrew Love | 527 c365 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for that reply. Tottenham Hotspur has raised concerns about transparency in rel...
Hugh Robertson | 527 c364-5 (Link to this contribution)
I have to tread a little carefully in answering that question because we are under threat of judicia...
Hugh Robertson | 527 c394 (Link to this contribution)
I am going to take this only so far, as this has been a consensual debate thus far and I do not want...
Sharon Hodgson | 527 c394 (Link to this contribution)
I am very pleased to follow the right hon. Member for Bath (Mr Foster), who I wish had been able to ...
Bob Blackman | 527 c371-2 (Link to this contribution)
This is a key issue for the large numbers of people who have purchased tickets in the proper way. Du...
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