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Police Reform and Social Responsibility Bill

Debate on bills on Wednesday, 30 March 2011, in the House of Commons, led by Lord Herbert of South Downs. The answering member was Lord Coaker.

Police Reform and Social Responsibility Bill. Programme motion (No. 2) on proceedings on Report and Third reading agreed to on question. Report stage debate. New clause 4 negatived on division (224 votes to 320). New clause 5 negatived on division (216 votes to 311). New clause 6 negatived on question. Some amendments made. New schedule 1 agreed on division (306 votes to 222). Amendments made to schedules. Bill to be further considered tomorrow.

Type

Parliamentary proceeding

Reference

526 c373-472

Session

2010-12

Department

Home Office

Legislative stage

Report stage

Procedure

Programme motions
New clauses
New schedules

Chamber / Committee

House of Commons chamber

Police Reform and Social Responsibility Bill. As amended in public bill committee.
Thursday, 17 February 2011
Bills
House of Commons

Proceeding contributions

Speaker | 526 c452 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss amendment 154, page 100, line 17, at end insert—

Ann Clwyd | 526 c452 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment 2, page 100, line 10, leave out clause 152.

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Lord Herbert of South Downs | 526 c434 (Link to this contribution) I do not have time, I am afraid. As we envisage the situation, the public will be able to decide wh...

Julian Huppert | 526 c434 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister give way?

Lord Herbert of South Downs | 526 c433 (Link to this contribution) In the three minutes that are now available to me, I will have to try to explain why my hon. Friend'...

Chris Bryant | 526 c433 (Link to this contribution) Mr Speaker, I do not know whether you really want me to dilate at any point. I was merely trying to...

Chris Bryant | 526 c433 (Link to this contribution) I know I am chancing my arm, Mr Speaker, but I cannot chance it anywhere else on Report, and these i...

Chris Bryant | 526 c432-3 (Link to this contribution) It feels like I have entered into a meeting of the Home Affairs Committee, which is where I was yest...

Ann Clwyd | 526 c454 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps the hon. Gentleman is not aware of the facts. The fact that there have been 10 applications ...

Michael Ellis | 526 c454 (Link to this contribution) Does not that 80% failure rate indicate that people have been making frivolous and vexatious applica...

Gerald Kaufman | 526 c454 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend might be aware that a document issued by the Liberal Democrats in June last yea...

Ann Clwyd | 526 c454 (Link to this contribution) That was to have been my very next point. It is amazing that in the past 10 years, there have been j...

Elfyn Llwyd | 526 c454 (Link to this contribution) On the question of granting a warrant on the basis of flimsy evidence, is the right hon. Lady aware ...

Ann Clwyd | 526 c452-3 (Link to this contribution) The amendment would remove clause 152. At the outset, I should like to say that whatever one's views...

Ann Clwyd | 526 c453 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend hits the nail on the head as usual, and I shall develop that argument in a few minute...

Jeremy Corbyn | 526 c453 (Link to this contribution) Does my Friend agree that the current situation is the best one, because it keeps the Government awa...

Glenda Jackson | 526 c456 (Link to this contribution) Will my right hon. Friend allow me to intervene?

Ann Clwyd | 526 c455-6 (Link to this contribution) I do not know what the hon. Gentleman is talking about—and I doubt whether he does either. The Oppo...

Matthew Offord | 526 c455 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Lady claims that accusations against an individual are mentioned in the Goldstone rep...

Ann Clwyd | 526 c455 (Link to this contribution) Indeed. I think it sends the wrong signal at this particular time. I hope I can persuade many more h...

Michael Ellis | 526 c456 (Link to this contribution) It might be useful to inject some legal realism into the debate. At present the law in England and W...

Ann Clwyd | 526 c456 (Link to this contribution) I am concluding; I am sorry. It is already too hard to try to bring war criminals to justice. Sadly...

Ann Clwyd | 526 c454-5 (Link to this contribution) Well, the other reason the Government gave for the change in the law is, I suppose, the real reason,...

Louise Ellman | 526 c454 (Link to this contribution) I agree with my right hon. Friend that war crimes and crimes against humanity are horrific, but does...

Ann Clwyd | 526 c454 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend makes a very good point. Indeed, all the human rights organisations, including ...

Michael McCann | 526 c461 (Link to this contribution) I am the chair of the all-party group for the prevention of genocide and crimes against humanity. My...

Julian Huppert | 526 c461 (Link to this contribution) The role of the police is important. Private prosecutions are the wrong way to go about dealing with...

Lord Coaker | 526 c460-1 (Link to this contribution) That is one reason why I said that if the DPP is to take decisions he will need to do so swiftly. As...

Julian Huppert | 526 c461 (Link to this contribution) I shall try to be brief because a number of hon. Members wish to speak. I have written an article to...

Julian Huppert | 526 c461 (Link to this contribution) I shall give way once more, but then I want to conclude and allow other hon. Members to speak.

Matthew Offord | 526 c460 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that the shadow Minister will recall the DPP's evidence to the Committee. He said:"““We ha...

Lord Coaker | 526 c460 (Link to this contribution) I know that my hon. Friend feels strongly about this, but we are supporting the amendment because th...

Jeremy Corbyn | 526 c460 (Link to this contribution) I am disappointed in the Minister's line of argument, because on the question of arraigning someone ...

Lord Coaker | 526 c460 (Link to this contribution) The point that I am making is that the DPP's involvement is to prevent that politicisation, and I wa...

Michael Ellis | 526 c459 (Link to this contribution) That is a matter of personal opinion. As I have indicated, one would have to make a comparison with ...

Michael Ellis | 526 c459 (Link to this contribution) I am going to finish now. If Canada has done this and is doing it, I see no reason why England and W...

Lord Coaker | 526 c459 (Link to this contribution) I start by saying that we support the Government on the clause. It is strangely placed in this Bill,...

Andrew Love | 526 c460 (Link to this contribution) Is my hon. Friend not concerned about this? We have been told that the DPP will consult the Attorney...

Lord Coaker | 526 c460 (Link to this contribution) That would have been a real danger with the initial proposal concerning the Attorney-General—my hon....

Andrew Love | 526 c460 (Link to this contribution) The core of this matter is that the DPP will consult the Attorney-General about the public interest ...

Mike Wood (Batley and Spen) | 526 c458 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman said that this provision had been increasingly used—10 times in the past 10 years...

Mike Wood (Batley and Spen) | 526 c458-9 (Link to this contribution) Is the hon. Gentleman agreeing that this provision has not been increasingly used? If so, does he wi...

Michael Ellis | 526 c458 (Link to this contribution) As I have said, there are several offences that, although they are rarely used, their presence on th...

Speaker | 526 c465 (Link to this contribution) I ask the Serjeant at Arms to investigate the delay in the No Lobby.

Lord Herbert of South Downs | 526 c464-5 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry. I do not have time. It is said, too, that few warrants have been issued in universal ju...

Lord Walney | 526 c464 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister give way?

Lord Herbert of South Downs | 526 c464 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Lady will forgive me, I will not give way; time is short. I raised such a risk in quest...

Gerald Kaufman | 526 c462 (Link to this contribution) I will not give way, because I have only two minutes. That is the person whom this lot are trying t...

Lord Herbert of South Downs | 526 c463 (Link to this contribution) The purpose of clause 152 is to require the consent of the Director of Public Prosecutions before an...

Michael McCann | 526 c463 (Link to this contribution) Does the Minister agree that that will prevent the silliness of people like two arch-atheists trying...

Lord Herbert of South Downs | 526 c463-4 (Link to this contribution) I will deal with some of these points as I go on. All that the provision will do is prevent a warra...

Speaker | 526 c462 (Link to this contribution) There are two minutes remaining, as I will call the Minister at 6.54 pm.

Julian Huppert | 526 c461-2 (Link to this contribution) My position was well summarised by an Opposition Member who spoke earlier. It is a shame that there ...

Gerald Kaufman | 526 c462 (Link to this contribution) We heard one Liberal Democrat voice. May I, in the remaining two minutes, quote the Liberal Democrat...

Yasmin Qureshi | 526 c461 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman not accept that the provision has been introduced because of the arrest of o...

Julian Huppert | 526 c456 (Link to this contribution) I had much experience of disagreeing with the hon. Gentleman on this matter when the Bill was in Com...

Michael Ellis | 526 c456-7 (Link to this contribution) I have a feeling that any Member of Parliament who was subject to the arrest warrant would not be so...

Michael Ellis | 526 c458 (Link to this contribution) I am not concerned, as my hon. Friend appears to be, about the Attorney-General, because safeguards ...

Julian Huppert | 526 c457-8 (Link to this contribution) This brings us on to what I consider to be an important point. Shortly after an arrest, the Attorney...

Michael Ellis | 526 c458 (Link to this contribution) Of course it is not my intention that war criminals be welcomed to this country. They would be welco...

Jeremy Corbyn | 526 c458 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is deeply confusing me; I hope he did not confuse the courts in the same way when...

Michael Ellis | 526 c457 (Link to this contribution) It is important to remember that there is the issue of fear of arrest, as well as arrest itself. If ...

Mark Durkan | 526 c457 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman not accept that the example he gave has nothing to do with private prosecuti...

Michael Ellis | 526 c457 (Link to this contribution) There seems to be a fear, including in apparently authoritative newspapers, that the provision will ...

Mark Durkan | 526 c457 (Link to this contribution) Can the hon. Gentleman therefore tell us how this clause removes that fear? What signal will people ...

Matthew Offord | 526 c381 (Link to this contribution) I was fortunate enough to sit in Committee with the hon. Gentleman, and I am sure he recalls the evi...

Lord Coaker | 526 c380-1 (Link to this contribution) I do not see any evidence for that at all, and there have been no such representations. On the situa...

Simon Hart | 526 c380 (Link to this contribution) As the only representative from the Dyfed Powys area here, may I ask the hon. Gentleman whether he a...

Julian Huppert | 526 c382 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman think it is right that under the current system district councils such as Ca...

Lord Coaker | 526 c381-2 (Link to this contribution) First, if the system in London was working so well, why would the Government want to change it? Seco...

Michael Ellis | 526 c381 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman not agree that a good piece of evidence is the fact that such a system is al...

Lord Coaker | 526 c381 (Link to this contribution) My point is that the system the Government are seeking to introduce will not deliver the improved ac...

Lord Coaker | 526 c382-3 (Link to this contribution) That is a fair point. We can, of course, make changes and improvements to the current system. Howeve...

Julian Huppert | 526 c384 (Link to this contribution) Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. I apologise for being confusing; I was trying to be helpful. It is...

Speaker | 526 c383 (Link to this contribution) Order. Members have to stand if they want to speak—bobbing up and down like this does not help me. I...

Julian Huppert | 526 c384-5 (Link to this contribution) Indeed. We have had a fair discussion in Committee, and I am glad that we are continuing it. The sh...

Michael Ellis | 526 c384 (Link to this contribution) But about the same number of people.

Julian Huppert | 526 c385 (Link to this contribution) I was speaking about Government amendment 14, which I think is in this group.

Speaker | 526 c385 (Link to this contribution) Order. May I remind the hon. Gentleman that we are discussing quite a narrow set of amendments? I am...

Julian Huppert | 526 c386 (Link to this contribution) I had almost finished, Madam Deputy Speaker, and I shall do shortly. There was an interesting debate...

Speaker | 526 c385 (Link to this contribution) Order. The hon. Gentleman said at the beginning—and this is my understanding—that that is a drafting...

Julian Huppert | 526 c386 (Link to this contribution) I am happy to do so. I hope that the Government will consider what I have said as well as the self-s...

Speaker | 526 c386 (Link to this contribution) Order. With respect, people can read the Hansard report of the Committee. I have given the hon. Gent...

Keith Vaz | 526 c375 (Link to this contribution) I am following my hon. Friend's arguments carefully. The new clause would put a lot of responsibilit...

Lord Coaker | 526 c374-5 (Link to this contribution) It is very good to be reunited with many of the members of the Committee who did such sterling servi...

Speaker | 526 c374 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:

Lord Coaker | 526 c374 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.

Lord Herbert of South Downs | 526 c373 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move,"That the Order of 13 December 2010 (Police Reform and Social Responsibility Bill (Pro...

Lord Coaker | 526 c375-6 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Gentleman, who is Chairman of the Home Affairs Select Committee, makes a reasonable po...

Lord Coaker | 526 c376 (Link to this contribution) I am glad that the hon. Gentleman has cleared up the issue—there is one council in favour of the pro...

Mark Reckless | 526 c376 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman asked for an example of a council that supports the reform. My council—Medway cou...

Lord Coaker | 526 c378-9 (Link to this contribution) The model of policing governance that we were considering at that time was exactly the sort of model...

Michael Ellis | 526 c378 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman recall saying when he was Police Minister:"““only direct election, based on ...

Lord Coaker | 526 c379-80 (Link to this contribution) Nobody has said that the existing system is absolutely flawless or does not need improving. I said t...

Mark Reckless | 526 c379 (Link to this contribution) ACPO, the hon. Gentleman tells us, has suggested that there are issues with checks and balances in t...

Lord Coaker | 526 c376-7 (Link to this contribution) I do not think that police authorities are as bad as they are portrayed. There is some variation amo...

Julian Huppert | 526 c376 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman accept that the key issue is about having elected people looking after polic...

Julian Huppert | 526 c377 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman will be aware that we have discussed that idea in another venue, along with how i...

Lord Herbert of South Downs | 526 c393-4 (Link to this contribution) If I may, I will come to that matter when we reach that specific group of amendments, because the Go...

Lord Herbert of South Downs | 526 c393 (Link to this contribution) I absolutely accept what the right hon. Gentleman says. Local government matters are not reserved an...

Mark Tami | 526 c393 (Link to this contribution) The point that my right hon. Friend the Member for Torfaen (Paul Murphy) makes is that the mechanism...

Lord Herbert of South Downs | 526 c391-3 (Link to this contribution) First, I apologise to the Chairman of the Home Affairs Committee, the right hon. Member for Leiceste...

Lord Murphy of Torfaen | 526 c393 (Link to this contribution) I remind the Minister that things are not quite as simple as saying that policing is reserved. Polic...

Michael Ellis | 526 c389 (Link to this contribution) Was the right hon. Gentleman not also exhausted by the 13 years of the previous Government and their...

Keith Vaz | 526 c390-1 (Link to this contribution) I say to the hon. Gentleman, who has recently joined the Home Affairs Committee, that I was totally ...

Simon Hart | 526 c387-9 (Link to this contribution) I will restrict my comments to the impact of elected commissioners in west Wales, an area that has b...

Keith Vaz | 526 c389 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Carmarthen West and South Pembrokeshire (Simon Hart),...

David Burrowes | 526 c414 (Link to this contribution) It is always interesting to hear the hon. Gentleman scrutinise a Bill. He is speaking on behalf of t...

Mark Reckless | 526 c411-2 (Link to this contribution) In almost all those areas, there will invariably be agreement. There is give and take, and that has ...

Lord Mann | 526 c413-4 (Link to this contribution) I note the volume of Members taking part in the debate: I think attendance is under 3%. Doubtless ev...

Mark Reckless | 526 c410-1 (Link to this contribution) That is a very good example, which helps to elucidate the point. It would not be appropriate for the...

Lord Coaker | 526 c411 (Link to this contribution) May I be clear about what the hon. Gentleman just said? Did he say that an elected individual should...

Nigel Mills | 526 c410 (Link to this contribution) On the point that the hon. Member for Birmingham, Selly Oak (Steve McCabe) just made, I note that my...

Mark Reckless | 526 c410 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps the hon. Gentleman could cite that provision, which I do not have to hand.

Steve McCabe | 526 c410 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for bringing to the House's attention what I think is a dilemma ...

Lord Coaker | 526 c407 (Link to this contribution) That is another interesting dilemma that might arise. No doubt there are many other such examples in...

Mark Reckless | 526 c407-10 (Link to this contribution) I should first declare an interest as a member of the Kent police authority. I thank the hon. Member...

Lord Coaker | 526 c406 (Link to this contribution) I agree. That is the point I am making. An individual will stand for election in a police force area...

Mark Tami | 526 c406 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that the scenario that he describes will be worse when there is a second r...

Lord Coaker | 526 c407 (Link to this contribution) That is a very real danger. The Minister will no doubt try to say that he will address that through ...

Lord Mann | 526 c407 (Link to this contribution) Has my hon. Friend considered the dilemma of a member of a political party being elected and the sam...

David Winnick | 526 c406 (Link to this contribution) Has my hon. Friend noticed the lack of enthusiasm for the concept of police and crime commissioners?...

Lord Coaker | 526 c404-6 (Link to this contribution) No doubt members of ACPO, including Sir Hugh Orde, its hugely respected president, will have conside...

Steve McCabe | 526 c406 (Link to this contribution) My recollection of the discussion that took place in Committee is that the Minister repeatedly claim...

Lord Coaker | 526 c406 (Link to this contribution) No, on a free vote, I do not think the measure would go through. I agree with my hon. Friend. It wil...

Speaker | 526 c402 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:

Lord Coaker | 526 c402-3 (Link to this contribution) This group of provisions is smaller, but none the less important. It is difficult for us to discuss ...

Speaker | 526 c402 (Link to this contribution) I have now to announce the result of a Division deferred from a previous day. On the question relati...

Lord Coaker | 526 c402 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.

Mark Reckless | 526 c404 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is telling us what ACPO said yesterday, but it is not easy for the Minister becau...

Greg Knight | 526 c403 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman accept that the new clause, as drafted, is in pretty poor shape? Even if we ...

Lord Coaker | 526 c403-4 (Link to this contribution) That might be a good debating point, but as a Bill goes through the House we need to debate its prin...

Lord Coaker | 526 c397-8 (Link to this contribution) I thought the ending of that was brilliant. Let me say in all seriousness to the Minister that he i...

Lord Herbert of South Downs | 526 c395-7 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman makes a genuine point. There are two answers. First, I have said that the G...

Keith Vaz | 526 c394-5 (Link to this contribution) I do not wish to interrupt the right hon. Gentleman's peroration, but I want to make a point about t...

Julian Huppert | 526 c431-2 (Link to this contribution) It is important to remember that, with the exception of the two independents—another example of how ...

Julian Huppert | 526 c431 (Link to this contribution) Thank you, Mr Speaker, although this is a matter of great interest, so I have sympathy for the hon. ...

Michael Ellis | 526 c431 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend has misgivings about having a 75% majority, but does he not feel that it ought to be ...

Steve McCabe | 526 c431 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I can clarify matters a fraction for the hon. Gentleman. My point is that the police Ministe...

Speaker | 526 c431 (Link to this contribution) Order. Interventions are becoming increasingly lengthy, and they need to be rather shorter.

Steve McCabe | 526 c430 (Link to this contribution) I am saying quite simply that the nature of the existing powers, as I understand them, would give th...

Julian Huppert | 526 c430-1 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure, as ever, to follow the hon. Member for Birmingham, Selly Oak (Steve McCabe). We ha...

Steve McCabe | 526 c429-30 (Link to this contribution) I am talking about police commissioners, although I am happy to tell the hon. Gentleman that I am no...

Julian Huppert | 526 c430 (Link to this contribution) I am still unclear. If the hon. Gentleman does not support the alternative in the new clause, is he ...

Michael Ellis | 526 c429 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman confirm whether the previous Labour Government did something very similar on...

Steve McCabe | 526 c429 (Link to this contribution) If I was to stand as a candidate for police commissioner and was setting out my stall for the kind o...

Julian Huppert | 526 c429 (Link to this contribution) I am not sure that I agree with everything the hon. Gentleman is saying. Does he not agree that the ...

Mark Reckless | 526 c427-8 (Link to this contribution) The power over the precept is an extraordinarily important one, particularly over the whole elected ...

Steve McCabe | 526 c428 (Link to this contribution) I shall be brief. I am intrigued that the hon. Member for Rochester and Strood (Mark Reckless) has t...

Mark Reckless | 526 c428-9 (Link to this contribution) I must say that that really is not the case and has not been my experience. In Kent we have been abl...

Steve McCabe | 526 c429 (Link to this contribution) That democratic element cannot be fundamentally unique in relation to setting the precept but absolu...

Mark Reckless | 526 c425-6 (Link to this contribution) Yes, I am aware of that issue. The predecessor council to mine in Medway, Rochester upon Medway coun...

Julian Huppert | 526 c426 (Link to this contribution) I am interested in the point that the hon. Gentleman made about having to use litigation. There is s...

Mark Reckless | 526 c426-7 (Link to this contribution) In my reference to litigation, I was alluding to the fact that the prospect of dispute, at least on ...

Steve McCabe | 526 c427 (Link to this contribution) I recognise that the hon. Gentleman feels strongly about this element, but if it is valid to argue t...

Julian Huppert | 526 c425 (Link to this contribution) This issue is effectively about the principle of capping, which causes real problems. Is my hon. Fri...

Mark Reckless | 526 c424 (Link to this contribution) New clause 6 deals with the police and crime panel and, specifically, the powers that it may or may ...

Speaker | 526 c424 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss the following: Amendment 151, in clause 28, page 21, lin...

Mark Reckless | 526 c418 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister agree to supply the document, at least in draft form, to the Home Affairs Committe...

Lord Herbert of South Downs | 526 c418-9 (Link to this contribution) First, the Association of Police Authorities is certainly involved in the drafting; it is part of th...

Lord Herbert of South Downs | 526 c418 (Link to this contribution) I repeat that we do not envisage this being a statutory document. It was originally called a memoran...

Lord Coaker | 526 c419 (Link to this contribution) That is exactly the point. Concerns have rightly been raised about who will be elected and the manda...

Mark Reckless | 526 c424 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.

Lord Coaker | 526 c419 (Link to this contribution) Before I comment on the Minister's remarks, I would like to thank my hon. Friend the Member for Bass...

Mark Tami | 526 c419 (Link to this contribution) Given the sort of person who is going to be elected to the panels, might it not lead to an adversari...

Elfyn Llwyd | 526 c417 (Link to this contribution) Can the Minister enlighten us as to what would happen if someone breached the protocol?

Elfyn Llwyd | 526 c418 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for replying to my question in such short order, and in as much detail as he co...

Lord Herbert of South Downs | 526 c417-8 (Link to this contribution) May I come to that in a moment? I will address the status of the document shortly. As I mentioned e...

Lord Mann | 526 c414-5 (Link to this contribution) I never like to be presumptuous. As I am sure the hon. Gentleman knows, I constantly communicate wit...

Tom Brake | 526 c415 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Bassetlaw (John Mann), who is clearly a grand master ...

Lord Coaker | 526 c415 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman agree that we should have a draft of that to consider, even if it is a draft...

Tom Brake | 526 c415-6 (Link to this contribution) I think that the Minister and I would probably agree that in an ideal world it would have been usefu...

Lord Herbert of South Downs | 526 c416 (Link to this contribution) First, I confirm again to the House something that has been confirmed on a number of occasions: the ...

Mark Reckless | 526 c416 (Link to this contribution) Is not one limitation of existing case law that an individual litigant—or a company such as Internat...

Lord Coaker | 526 c373 (Link to this contribution) It would be churlish not to recognise the fact that the Government have provided an additional day's...

Speaker | 526 c433 (Link to this contribution) Order. Can I just gently point out to the hon. Member for Rhondda that it is on the subject of prece...

Ann Clwyd | 526 c453 (Link to this contribution) That is certainly a subject for future debate. I agree with the hon. Gentleman when he said in Commi...

Lord Coaker | 526 c377-8 (Link to this contribution) We are opposed to directly elected police and crime commissioners as set out in the Bill. Having sai...

Steve McCabe | 526 c410 (Link to this contribution) I apologise. Clause 1(8)(g) places a responsibility on the police and crime commissioner to"““hold t...

Lord Herbert of South Downs | 526 c416-7 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend's point is well made. However, the police and crime commissioner, who will have a man...

Speaker | 526 c433 (Link to this contribution) Order. Can I just remind the hon. Gentleman that there will be an opportunity on Third Reading for h...

Julian Huppert | 526 c453 (Link to this contribution) I share the right hon. Lady's deep interest in human rights and I absolutely accept her point. May I...

Andrew Love | 526 c455 (Link to this contribution) Is it not incongruous that at the same time as we continue to speak here about human rights, justice...

Lord Murphy of Torfaen | 526 c386-7 (Link to this contribution) I support new clause 4, the case for which was so powerfully made, characteristically, by my hon. Fr...

Mark Reckless | 526 c410 (Link to this contribution) Yes, absolutely. What we saw in that instance was a failure in the operational direction of the Metr...

Subjects

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Accountability

Council tax

Arrest warrants

Finance

Police

Powers

Metropolitan Police

Private prosecutions

Reform

War crimes

Police and crime commissioners

Legislation

Police Reform and Social Responsibility Bill 2010-12

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