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Parliamentary Voting System and Constituencies Bill

Debate on bills on Wednesday, 12 January 2011, in the House of Lords.
Parliamentary Voting System and Constituencies Bill. Lords committee statge (eighth day). Clause 10 amendments considered. Clause 10 agreed without amendment.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
723 c1405-60, c1476-526 
Session
2010-12
Department
Committee of the Whole House (HL)
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Related items
Parliamentary Voting System and Constituencies Bill. Brought from the Commons. Explanatory notes also published (HL Bill 26-EN).
Wednesday, 3 November 2010
Bills
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Baroness Liddell of Coatdyke | 723 c1520-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, like my noble friend Lord Soley, I oppose the Question that Clause 10 stand part of the Bi...
Lord Soley | 723 c1519-20 (Link to this contribution) To some extent my noble friend anticipates me. I was thinking not just of that example. There will b...

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Lord Campbell-Savours | 723 c1519 (Link to this contribution) There is a part of this debate that has not been answered, and this is the only opportunity that we ...
Lord Soley | 723 c1518-9 (Link to this contribution) This is a bad clause. It is not bad simply because of its content but, as has been pointed out on a ...
Lord King of Bridgwater | 723 c1522 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may complete what I was saying; I shall be extremely brief. I agree with the noble Lord, L...
Lord King of Bridgwater | 723 c1522 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, they say that those not inclined to speak can sometimes be provoked to do so by those not ...
Lord King of Bridgwater | 723 c1522-3 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may complete the sentence. The noble Baroness, Lady Liddell, referred to the fact that a n...
Lord Davies of Stamford | 723 c1525 (Link to this contribution) I hear my noble friend with great interest. He is postulating a possible cause of the triple malaise...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 723 c1526 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thought that my luck was too great to answer just two questions from the noble and learn...
Lord King of Bridgwater | 723 c1523 (Link to this contribution) I am on my last sentence if the noble Baroness will allow me to finish. In that situation, it is per...
Baroness McDonagh | 723 c1523 (Link to this contribution) I appreciate that the noble Lord, Lord King of Bridgwater, has not taken part in previous debates bu...
Lord Davies of Stamford | 723 c1524-5 (Link to this contribution) I rise to respond to the comments of the noble Lord, Lord King, and to say how pleased I was that, f...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 723 c1525 (Link to this contribution) The answer to the question that my noble friend is putting is that there is a contractual agreement ...
Lord Davies of Stamford | 723 c1406-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I think that this clause is deeply suspect. I support the amendment of my noble friend and...
Lord Lipsey | 723 c1405-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, with this amendment, we pick up some of the debates that we were having on Monday night—I ...
Lord Lipsey | 723 c1405 (Link to this contribution) 55: Clause 10, page 8, line 14, leave out ““2013”” and insert ““2015””
Lord Maclennan of Rogart | 723 c1430 (Link to this contribution) I accept that some changes will flow from that. In another place, I went through nine different elec...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 723 c1430 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord cites his own constituency, which I know as well. It had a nuclear plant in Dounreay....
Lord Campbell-Savours | 723 c1427-9 (Link to this contribution) My noble friend Lord Martin of Springburn has just made a very important contribution to this debate...
Lord Howarth of Newport | 723 c1429 (Link to this contribution) I add two considerations to the important ones already put forward by my noble friends and the noble...
Lord Maclennan of Rogart | 723 c1429-30 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am interested in the arguments that the noble Lord, Lord Lipsey, put forward in support ...
Lord Lipsey | 723 c1430 (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful to the noble Lord, whom I hugely respect on constitutional matters, for giving wa...
Lord Lipsey | 723 c1422-4 (Link to this contribution) Goodness, you hardly get to sit down before you have to stand up again. I am not sure that this ame...
Lord Martin of Springburn | 723 c1425-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support everything that the noble Lord, Lord Lipsey, said. My amendment talks about eigh...
Lord Lipsey | 723 c1425 (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful to the noble Lord. I have been on my feet in successive speeches, and he must hav...
Lord Grocott | 723 c1432-3 (Link to this contribution) Whatever the circumstances, being a Member of Parliament is not the most secure of roles. I want to...
Lord Grocott | 723 c1431-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I cannot help but remark that, although the noble Lord, Lord Maclennan of Rogart, and the ...
Lord Maclennan of Rogart | 723 c1432 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Lord for giving way. The reality is that the Boundary Commission added 25 per cent...
Lord Maclennan of Rogart | 723 c1431 (Link to this contribution) That issue will be addressed in separate amendments and is a perfectly fair point to make. There may...
Lord Davies of Stamford | 723 c1431 (Link to this contribution) On the noble Lord’s point that the Boundary Commissions may make mistakes, does he not agree that th...
Lord Maclennan of Rogart | 723 c1431 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord enjoyed a degree of stability which has enabled his voice to be heard consistently fo...
Lord Hughes of Woodside | 723 c1431 (Link to this contribution) I know the noble Lord’s constituency well. However, in my own case in the city of Aberdeen, we had m...
Lord Maclennan of Rogart | 723 c1430 (Link to this contribution) Flattery will undoubtedly get the noble Lord far down the track with his arguments. The actuality is...
Lord Bach | 723 c1435 (Link to this contribution) My noble friend was a special adviser, which is more important.
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 723 c1436 (Link to this contribution) It was still the loss of the House of Commons. On the question of six years, five years would, if we...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 723 c1436 (Link to this contribution) Is the Minister saying that, in introducing this highly important constitutional Bill, the Governmen...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 723 c1436 (Link to this contribution) These guidelines are not binding. I am indicating that any Government who come into office immediate...
Lord Gilbert | 723 c1434 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, listening today to the noble Lord, Lord Martin, confirmed my long-held view that the voter...
Lord Rooker | 723 c1433-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have a specific question for the Minister. The debate has concentrated exclusively on th...
Lord Gilbert | 723 c1434 (Link to this contribution) I am obliged. My second point is that we all come here with different experiences. I have heard many...
Lord Martin of Springburn | 723 c1434 (Link to this contribution) They are certainly getting into that system—they probably visited the noble Lord’s constituency—but ...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 723 c1435 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, these amendments would increase the frequency of reports by the Boundary Commission from t...
Lord Bach | 723 c1434-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I feel more than usually inadequate to speak in this particular debate, as I think I am th...
Lord Soley | 723 c1439 (Link to this contribution) The point that my noble friend makes is important but it is profoundly important when you are lookin...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 723 c1438 (Link to this contribution) The contributions that we have heard from a number of former Members of Parliament indicate that, no...
Lord Lipsey | 723 c1438-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble and learned Lord, Lord Wallace of Tankerness, referred to the length of time tha...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 723 c1437 (Link to this contribution) If that is the case, why did the Explanatory Memorandum to the Bill not state the reason why there w...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 723 c1436 (Link to this contribution) I do not think that there is much more that I can add to that. The noble Lord can ask another questi...
Lord Howarth of Newport | 723 c1438 (Link to this contribution) Even if the Minister is right that five-yearly reviews will not necessarily lead to the major redraw...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 723 c1438 (Link to this contribution) I cannot accept that. If you were to have a longer period, that would lead to greater disruption, bu...
Lord Davies of Stamford | 723 c1438 (Link to this contribution) As far as I know, in 2006 no one had conceived this extraordinary idea that every time you have a re...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 723 c1437-8 (Link to this contribution) It was quite proper that, having indicated a coalition commitment to introducing this legislation an...
Lord Howarth of Newport | 723 c1447-8 (Link to this contribution) Presumably a large part of the purpose of parliamentary reform is to refresh our parliamentary democ...
Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 723 c1446-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, not surprisingly, I support the amendment, which also stands in my name. I have a particul...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 723 c1442-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble and learned Lord, Lord Falconer of Thoroton, for tabling this amendment....
Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 723 c1443-4 (Link to this contribution) That was a helpful response. First, I thank the noble and learned that Lord for confirming that my v...
Baroness Thornton | 723 c1444-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this will be the first of several related discussions. We had a more substantive discussio...
Lord Lipsey | 723 c1439-40 (Link to this contribution) I totally agree with that point, particularly in relation to a constitutional Bill that, for the rea...
Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 723 c1440 (Link to this contribution) 58ZZZA: Clause 10, page 8, line 15, at end insert— ““(c) if there is a system of fixed-term Parliame...
Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 723 c1440-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this amendment connects in quite closely with previous debates but also raises a new point...
Lord Lipsey | 723 c1442 (Link to this contribution) I rise briefly to support my noble and learned friend. His amendment calls attention to something th...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 723 c1451 (Link to this contribution) I am saying that I think it is more unjust to have the 2015 general election fought on the basis of ...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 723 c1450 (Link to this contribution) As I have said, we are committed to undertaking the pilot schemes and, if they have proved their wor...
Lord Wills | 723 c1450-1 (Link to this contribution) I ask the noble and learned Lord to clarify the point that he has made several times already. Is he ...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 723 c1450 (Link to this contribution) I have no hesitation in welcoming such a proposal. It does not run counter to the other data matchin...
Lord Howarth of Newport | 723 c1450 (Link to this contribution) My noble friend Lord Rooker makes an excellent point. Will the Minister be kind enough to tell the H...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 723 c1449-50 (Link to this contribution) If my memory serves me correctly, when I responded to the noble Lord on Monday I mentioned the conce...
Lord Rooker | 723 c1450 (Link to this contribution) Is there not a big society point here? I genuinely think that the best people to get young people re...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 723 c1448-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble Baronesses, Lady Thornton and Lady Hayter, for the amendment, which, as ...
Lord Maxton | 723 c1449 (Link to this contribution) After I raised that point, someone raised with me the question of whether the Data Protection Act wi...
Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 723 c1448 (Link to this contribution) I do not think that there is much dispute about either the facts or the outcome sought. In March 201...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 723 c1454 (Link to this contribution) 58ZZZC: Clause 10, page 8, line 15, at end insert— ““( ) No Boundary Commission shall begin work on ...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 723 c1454-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise to move Amendment 58ZZZC on behalf of my noble friend Lord Knight of Weymouth. This...
Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 723 c1457-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this is well tilled territory. The position according to the Electoral Commission is that ...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 723 c1458 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as has been indicated, this amendment is very similar in its terms to the previous amendme...
Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 723 c1458-9 (Link to this contribution) I have been here or hereabouts for most of the evening. The noble and learned Lord, Lord Wallace, wi...
Baroness Thornton | 723 c1451 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for that, but it seems that he is completely happy to go ahead with the boundar...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 723 c1451 (Link to this contribution) I just want to clarify whether the noble Baroness thinks that it is right that the next general elec...
Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 723 c1413-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in speaking to Amendment 55, moved by my noble friend Lord Lipsey, I am obviously happy th...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 723 c1409 (Link to this contribution) It is not just the sense of insecurity; it is the fact that it will influence the quality of entrant...
Lord Davies of Stamford | 723 c1410 (Link to this contribution) Before my noble friend concludes, can he help me with a question that I asked earlier, which is not ...
Lord Grocott | 723 c1409-10 (Link to this contribution) I can see my noble friend’s point, although I am not sure I agree. There will always be a lot of peo...
Lord Wills | 723 c1410-1 (Link to this contribution) I support all the amendments to this clause, but I incline most to the amendment to which my noble f...
Lord Grocott | 723 c1410 (Link to this contribution) That is a question for the government Front Bench. I think I know the answer. It has something to do...
Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 723 c1413 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I was going to rise before my noble friend but I am grateful that I did not as I want to m...
Lord Dixon | 723 c1411-3 (Link to this contribution) We are now getting to the main part of the Bill: the constituents. The arguments about alternative v...
Lord Bach | 723 c1419-20 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, all three amendments that we have been discussing—the amendment that has been moved and th...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 723 c1420 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Bill would require the Boundary Commission to report by October 2013. The amendment mo...
Lord Wills | 723 c1420 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may answer that question. Under legislation, the Electoral Commission is tasked with repai...
Lord Lipsey | 723 c1422 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble and learned Lord for his full answer to the amendment, but I am...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 723 c1421-2 (Link to this contribution) I cannot accept that they make no difference. I have acknowledged that it is important that we track...
Lord Lipsey | 723 c1422 (Link to this contribution) 57: Clause 10, page 8, line 15, leave out ““fifth”” and insert ““seventh””
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 723 c1420 (Link to this contribution) I shall answer the noble Lord’s second point directly.
Baroness McDonagh | 723 c1421 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for giving way. It is better that we register the 3.5 million people who are no...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 723 c1420-1 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that the noble Baroness will allow me to answer the question posed by her noble friend. Fi...
Lord Howarth of Newport | 723 c1414 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, there is no case at all for this process being rushed as the Government seek to insist tha...
Lord Wills | 723 c1414 (Link to this contribution) I agree with the powerful case that my noble friend is making, but does he agree that another factor...
Lord Snape | 723 c1418-9 (Link to this contribution) Again, your Lordships will draw their own conclusions from that intervention. In fact, local knowled...
Lord Bradley | 723 c1418 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may give another example. I went through two boundary changes in the city of Manchester. T...
Lord Snape | 723 c1417-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise to speak to my noble friend’s amendment, as I have tabled a similar one that we sha...
Lord Rooker | 723 c1416-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I did not intend to speak on this but I will add a new example on the time element. We wou...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 723 c1416 (Link to this contribution) I do not want to labour the issue of timing, other than to say that I support vigorously the amendme...
Lord Howarth of Newport | 723 c1415-6 (Link to this contribution) It is a grossly insensitive and, politically, a remarkably stupid thing to contemplate. I add one fu...
Baroness Corston | 723 c1415 (Link to this contribution) Does my noble friend recognise that many of us have heard—as, perhaps, he has—from people in Cornwal...
Lord Howarth of Newport | 723 c1414-5 (Link to this contribution) My noble friend developed his argument compellingly in his speech just now. Just as differential tur...
Lord Bach | 723 c1517 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I can make a short contribution. I assure the Minister that we do not intend to vote against...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 723 c1516-7 (Link to this contribution) I want to raise the issue of these reports. I have done two inquiries, but I have never seen the Bou...
Lord Bach | 723 c1517 (Link to this contribution) That was not eight months ago; it was many moons ago.
Lord McNally | 723 c1517 (Link to this contribution) I am relying now on my responsibilities, which I think the noble Lord once shared, as the Minister f...
Lord Howarth of Newport | 723 c1516 (Link to this contribution) I ask the Minister and his colleagues on that side of the House to understand that there is deep and...
Lord Tyler | 723 c1516 (Link to this contribution) I wonder if my noble friend might note that amnesia, rather than paranoia, seems to be the prevailin...
Lord McNally | 723 c1516 (Link to this contribution) This side of the House has treated serious amendments seriously, but I invite any future historian t...
Lord McNally | 723 c1517 (Link to this contribution) I am misleading myself. I mean the director-general of the Ordnance Survey, who is an assessor. I su...
Lord Soley | 723 c1515 (Link to this contribution) Can the Minister tell us whether this was also the request of the Assembly in Northern Ireland, or o...
Lord McNally | 723 c1515 (Link to this contribution) It was not from the Assembly but from the Boundary Commission for Northern Ireland, which simply ask...
Lord McNally | 723 c1514 (Link to this contribution) 58ZBC: Clause 10, page 9, line 7, at end insert— ““( ) In Schedule 1 to the 1986 Act (the Boundary C...
Lord McNally | 723 c1514-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment 58ZBC adds the Chief Survey Officer of Northern Ireland to the list of assessor ...
Lord Soley | 723 c1515-6 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister. The reason why this point is important is that things do not always g...
Lord Soley | 723 c1515 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry to pursue it, but the reason I pick it up is simply because of my past knowledge of North...
Lord McNally | 723 c1515 (Link to this contribution) When I moved this amendment, I thought, ““This is the one bloody thing I’m going to move all night w...
Lord McNally | 723 c1516 (Link to this contribution) I can give the noble Lord evidence. There has been bullying by—
Lord Howarth of Newport | 723 c1516 (Link to this contribution) Before the Minister sits down, I want to pick him up on his use of the term ““paranoia””, which he h...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 723 c1511-2 (Link to this contribution) No, I am sorry, but that is not our case. Our case is that to handle legislation in this way is an a...
Lord Lipsey | 723 c1512 (Link to this contribution) 58ZA: Clause 10, page 8, line 39, leave out ““may”” and insert ““must””
Lord Lipsey | 723 c1512-3 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps noble Lords may take this as a sign to take their tea break—at this time of night, they migh...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 723 c1513 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Lipsey, for Amendment 58ZA. When I first read the amendment, ...
Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 723 c1513 (Link to this contribution) I completely understand the point that the noble and learned Lord, Lord Wallace of Tankerness, has m...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 723 c1513-4 (Link to this contribution) With respect, I think that the point that the noble Lord, Lord Lipsey, made was whether Ministers ha...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 723 c1514 (Link to this contribution) That is perhaps a good reason for us to examine it again. I have indicated what the intention is and...
Lord Howarth of Newport | 723 c1514 (Link to this contribution) I am looking at the Explanatory Notes to Clause 10 of the Bill. It seems to be very clear that discr...
Lord Lipsey | 723 c1514 (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful to the noble and learned Lord and if I gave any impression that I seriously thoug...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 723 c1509-10 (Link to this contribution) Because we are going to win the referendum. I thank the noble Lord, Lord Campbell-Savours, for his ...
Lord Tyler | 723 c1510 (Link to this contribution) I wonder if my noble friend has noticed that for hours in this Chamber we have been told that the wh...
Lord Lipsey | 723 c1509 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Campbell-Savours, has made a powerful case for why his amendment is i...
Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 723 c1509 (Link to this contribution) The amendment would mean that you would get the constituency boundary changes only if the AV vote wa...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 723 c1503-7 (Link to this contribution) I am in all in favour of the noble Lord going home to bed. All the Government need to do is accept t...
Lord Soley | 723 c1507-8 (Link to this contribution) I am pleased to follow my noble friend Lord Campbell-Savours because he has put his finger on one of...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 723 c1511 (Link to this contribution) To explain, it is the second review that worries me. The noble and learned Lord, Lord Wallace of Tan...
Lord Soley | 723 c1511 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord, Lord Tyler, is wrong. What was said is that the Liberal Democrat party has campaigne...
Lord McNally | 723 c1501-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, first, I reassure the noble Lord, Lord McAvoy, that he and I have bonded—I think that that...
Lord McAvoy | 723 c1502 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am still not sure what the obstacle is. I have heard the noble Lord, Lord McNally, descr...
Lord McAvoy | 723 c1502 (Link to this contribution) I do not agree with the noble Lord. I will not push the point too hard in case the noble and learned...
Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 723 c1501 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate my noble friend Lord McAvoy on his courage in moving the amendment. The absence of th...
Lord Greaves | 723 c1503 (Link to this contribution) Considering the quality of debate I have listened to in the past hour and a half, the noble Lord, Lo...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 723 c1502 (Link to this contribution) I start by reminding the House why we are here at this time of night because members of the coalitio...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 723 c1502 (Link to this contribution) 58ZZA: Clause 10, page 8, line 33, at beginning insert ““Subject to subsection (5AA) below,””
Lord Campbell-Savours | 723 c1503 (Link to this contribution) I shall read from a report of the Constitution Committee of this House, to which I know the noble Lo...
Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 723 c1494 (Link to this contribution) I am trying to be helpful. When I raised this on Monday, the Minister said that it was helpful. Woul...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 723 c1494 (Link to this contribution) Well, there is no Speaker here. We are not arguing any case that would prevent any member of the pub...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 723 c1494 (Link to this contribution) I have not suggested that. If that was the impression that the noble Lord got, I have to correct him...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 723 c1494 (Link to this contribution) No, I think I have been very patient. I have been remarkably patient.
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 723 c1494 (Link to this contribution) That just confirms that the noble Lord does not actually understand what this is about. No one is di...
Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 723 c1493-4 (Link to this contribution) I am getting slightly confused. No one is suggesting doing away with rolling registration. Therefore...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 723 c1493 (Link to this contribution) I am beginning to wonder whether the noble Baroness understands what electoral registration is about...
Baroness Thornton | 723 c1493 (Link to this contribution) Is the Minister saying that the 3.5 million people who are not on the register will need to wait for...
Lord McAvoy | 723 c1500 (Link to this contribution) 58ZZZG: Clause 10, page 8, line 20, at end insert ““and the Lord Speaker of the House of Lords””
Lord McAvoy | 723 c1500-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I was asked to move this amendment on behalf of my noble friend Lord Foulkes of Cumnock, w...
Lord Soley | 723 c1498 (Link to this contribution) I support my noble friend on the Front Bench. The Government could give important reassurance on thi...
Lord Grocott | 723 c1498-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I seek some figures from the Minister, although he has indicated that he will not give any...
Lord McNally | 723 c1499-500 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the weakness in this amendment is the first five words: "““For the avoidance of doubt””." ...
Lord Bach | 723 c1500 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his reply. I thank my noble friends Lord Soley and Lord Grocott for their c...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 723 c1494-6 (Link to this contribution) We will come to Amendment 89C but there is a relevant point that the noble Lord, Lord Boateng, made ...
Lord Bach | 723 c1497-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we change topic now and come to a short amendment, which deals with the question of resour...
Baroness Thornton | 723 c1482-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am going to use Bradford as my example as I think that it illustrates very well what my ...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 723 c1483-4 (Link to this contribution) I sympathise with the concern expressed by the noble Lord, Lord Boateng. I live in Herne Hill, which...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 723 c1480 (Link to this contribution) My noble friend argues that political parties should be involved in this process, but that is not wh...
Lord Boateng | 723 c1480-2 (Link to this contribution) I am not sure that I would go as far as my noble friend in saying that politicians or political part...
Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 723 c1484 (Link to this contribution) But now, in the contribution that the noble Lord just made, he implied, if not specifically suggeste...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 723 c1484 (Link to this contribution) I do not want to debate unnecessarily. I simply meant—and I think that it was obvious to everybody f...
Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 723 c1484 (Link to this contribution) It is appropriate to welcome the noble Lord, Lord Lester, to this debate. He made an excellent contr...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 723 c1484 (Link to this contribution) I said that. I said, in intervening on the noble Lord, Lord Boateng—if the noble Lord heard me—that ...
Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 723 c1484-5 (Link to this contribution) My noble friend Lord Boateng indicated that the exact wording of the amendment was not something tha...
Lord Boateng | 723 c1480 (Link to this contribution) I have a great deal of sympathy with the point my noble friend makes, given her intimate experience ...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 723 c1487 (Link to this contribution) May I suggest that the noble Lord reads the White Papers of September 1974 and September 1975, where...
Lord Howarth of Newport | 723 c1487-8 (Link to this contribution) I shall be happy to follow the noble Lord’s suggestion and look again at the White Papers, but I bel...
Baroness Liddell of Coatdyke | 723 c1488-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am glad to have the opportunity to follow my noble friend Lord Howarth because the point...
Lord Maxton | 723 c1489-90 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am not an expert on the new technology, despite what some people think. In terms of this...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 723 c1490 (Link to this contribution) Is it not fair to say that this whole complex exercise could have been avoided if the Government had...
Lord Maxton | 723 c1490-1 (Link to this contribution) My noble friend, inevitably, gets there before me. I will come to that in a minute. Is it the Gover...
Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 723 c1491-2 (Link to this contribution) This is an important issue. The debate has been greatly assisted, first, by the very forceful and we...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 723 c1493 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I think that we could legitimately ask why, in amendment after amendment from the Oppositi...
Lord Howarth of Newport | 723 c1486-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the life of this country has been enriched and energised generation by generation by waves...
Baroness McDonagh | 723 c1485-6 (Link to this contribution) I ask the noble Lord, Lord Lester, or anybody on the government Benches: why are the roles of govern...
Baroness Liddell of Coatdyke | 723 c1480 (Link to this contribution) My noble friend is making a fascinating series of points which, to someone from my background, is a ...
Lord Boateng | 723 c1479-80 (Link to this contribution) I have huge respect for the noble Lord’s contribution to community relations in this country, not le...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 723 c1479 (Link to this contribution) Has my noble friend considered the consequences of individual registration for black and minority-et...
Lord Boateng | 723 c1476-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment 58ZZZD is in my name and that of my noble friend Lady Thornton. As a newcomer to...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 723 c1479 (Link to this contribution) I have not heard the noble Lord say anything so far about whose responsibility this should be, but I...
Lord Boateng | 723 c1479 (Link to this contribution) My noble friend anticipates the first point of action on which I seek clarification from the Ministe...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 723 c1459 (Link to this contribution) I hope that the Scottish Government would be as keen as the parties in this House on trying to impro...
Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 723 c1459 (Link to this contribution) The Minister says that he hopes the Scottish Government will be co-operative. As he knows, the Scott...
Lord Boateng | 723 c1476 (Link to this contribution) 58ZZZD: Clause 10, page 8, line 15, at end insert— ““( ) No Boundary Commission shall begin work on ...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 723 c1459-60 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for his response and to my noble friend Lord Soley and my no...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 723 c1518 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, if I speak for long enough I might get a full answer to the second of the noble and learne...
Baroness Thornton | 723 c1444 (Link to this contribution) 58ZZZB: Clause 10, page 8, line 15, at end insert— ““( ) No Boundary Commission shall begin work on ...
Baroness McDonagh | 723 c1407-8 (Link to this contribution) To save time for your Lordships, I shall speak to Amendment 56. I put my name to this amendment beca...
Lord Grocott | 723 c1408-9 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 56A, in my name, covers much same ground as the two amendments that have been briefly disc...
Lord Boateng | 723 c1496-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my fear that my ““ZZZ”” amendment might have induced torpor in the Minister was clearly qu...
Lord Bach | 723 c1497 (Link to this contribution) 58ZZZE: Clause 10, page 8, line 15, at end insert— ““( ) For the avoidance of doubt, the financial p...
Lord McAvoy | 723 c1521-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the hour is late and I will do my best not to repeat the points that I made in previous de...
Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 723 c1517 (Link to this contribution) I have two questions about Clause 10. We have gone through several points on Clause 10, which change...
Lord Tyler | 723 c1424-5 (Link to this contribution) Before he completes his speech, will the noble Lord explain the rationale behind the selection of se...
Baroness Thornton | 723 c1451 (Link to this contribution) The point that I was going on to make was that the Government need to get their finger out and get t...
Lord Soley | 723 c1456-7 (Link to this contribution) I support my noble friend Lord McKenzie and my noble friend Lord Knight of Weymouth who I understand...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 723 c1459 (Link to this contribution) I am glad the noble Lord mentioned that because I have indicated that using the year 2000 does relat...
Lord McNally | 723 c1516 (Link to this contribution) I will take comfort in it. It is still seared into my soul—we should count ourselves lucky here—that...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 723 c1511 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry if I got in the way of a dialogue between the noble Lord, Lord Soley, and my noble friend...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 723 c1510-1 (Link to this contribution) I had reflected on that. I thought that it was somewhat ironic that, having been lambasted, as my no...
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