Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill (HL). Lords consideration of Commons amendments. Lords amendments to Commons amendments debated and negatived on division. Commons amendments agreed to.
Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill [HL]
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
704 c1601-75 
Session
2007-08
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill (HL). As amended on Report. Explanatory Notes HL Bill 83-EN also published (vote).
Wednesday, 22 October 2008
Bills
House of Lords
Wednesday, 22 October 2008
Bills
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Baroness Barker | 704 c1639-40 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it has become apparent over the past 10 months or so, as I have closely followed deliberat...
Baroness Knight of Collingtree | 704 c1640 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I cannot forbear intervening in this debate, though I will be very brief. I was moved by w...
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Earl of Listowel | 704 c1640-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support the amendment moved by the right reverend Prelate. I will not repeat the argumen...
Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 704 c1642 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I associate myself with the remarks of the right reverend Prelate, and particularly the di...
Lord Maginnis of Drumglass | 704 c1636-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I very much welcome and support the right reverend Prelate’s amendment. It is deeply conce...
Lord Patten | 704 c1637-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it is always a pleasure to listen to and to follow the noble Lord, Lord Maginnis of Drumgl...
Baroness Butler-Sloss | 704 c1638 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I apologise to the right reverend Prelate for not being present when he started moving his...
Lord Bates | 704 c1642-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support the right reverend Prelate in his amendment. The amendment does not seek to wrec...
Baroness Thornton | 704 c1643-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, Amendments Nos. 36A, 36B and 36C have been tabled by the right reverend Prelate the Bishop...
Baroness Thornton | 704 c1629-30 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Commons in their Amendments Nos. 10 to 13, ...
Baroness Thornton | 704 c1630-1 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Commons in their Amendments Nos. 14 to 23.W...
Lord Alton of Liverpool | 704 c1633 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Thornton, for the provision that she has just made. As sh...
Baroness Thornton | 704 c1631-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Commons in their Amendments Nos. 24 to 26. ...
Baroness Thornton | 704 c1632 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Commons in their Amendments Nos. 27 to 30, ...
Bishop of Southwell and Nottingham | 704 c1634-6 (Link to this contribution)
moved, as an amendment to the Motion, Amendment No. 36A: "at end insert, ““but do propose Amendment ...
Lord Waddington | 704 c1636 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the House will be relieved to hear that I do not look upon this as an opportunity to rehas...
Baroness Thornton | 704 c1633 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Commons in their Amendments Nos. 32 to 35, ...
Baroness Thornton | 704 c1633-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Commons in their Amendment No. 36.
Amendme...
Earl Howe | 704 c1625 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, that was a very helpful reply, and I am grateful to noble Lords who spoke in this short de...
Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 704 c1626 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, before my noble friend sits down, it is important to notice that new Section 4A(3) states ...
Lord Elton | 704 c1626 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, before my noble friend sits down, I wonder whether this is an opportunity to enable the Mi...
Baroness Thornton | 704 c1626 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I do not think this is an appropriate point at which to reopen the debate. The only remark...
Lord Elton | 704 c1626 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I think I am in order in using this opportunity to suggest to my noble friend that he migh...
Lord Darzi of Denham | 704 c1626 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the answer is yes. If that functionality predominates being human, that embryo will be cla...
Earl Howe | 704 c1626 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I feel even more reassured and beg leave to withdraw the amendment.
Amendment, by leave, ...
Lord Darzi of Denham | 704 c1626 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Commons in their Amendments Nos. 4 and 5, t...
Baroness Thornton | 704 c1626-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Commons in their Amendments Nos. 6 and 7. I...
Lord Darzi of Denham | 704 c1624-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the amendment tabled by the noble Earl, Lord Howe, would extend the new admixed category w...
Lord Patel | 704 c1623-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank the Government for tabling this amendment. I supported the amendment tabled by the...
Lord Darzi of Denham | 704 c1619-20 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Commons in their Amendment No. 3. I shall a...
Lord Walton of Detchant | 704 c1623 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I, too, congratulate the Government on Amendment No. 3, which is a very worthy attempt to ...
Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 704 c1622-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I should, first, thank the Minister and his colleagues for the further consideration that ...
Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 704 c1612-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, as one of many non-scientists who have taken part in the extensive debates on this issue, ...
Lord Alton of Liverpool | 704 c1616-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Darzi of Denham, for the way in which he has respond...
Lord Darzi of Denham | 704 c1614-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, we have spent a significant amount of time in this House debating the use of admixed embry...
Lord Turnberg | 704 c1611-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the case against the amendment moved by the noble Lord, Lord Alton, has been well discusse...
Lord May of Oxford | 704 c1611 (Link to this contribution)
I am sorry, my Lords—embryonic stem cell research. I agree with the noble Lord that, on occasion, th...
Lord Alton of Liverpool | 704 c1611 (Link to this contribution)
Embryonic stem cells, my Lords.
Lord May of Oxford | 704 c1611 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I declare an interest as a member of the UK Stem Cell Foundation. Like the noble Lord, Lor...
Lord Patel | 704 c1609-11 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I was hoping that we would not have to rehearse all the lengthy discussions we had in Comm...
Baroness Tonge | 704 c1609 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I cannot possibly support the amendment of the noble Lord, Lord Alton. That is not because...
Lord Patten | 704 c1608-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am pleased to follow the noble Lord, Lord Winston. I am particularly interested by his s...
Lord Winston | 704 c1607-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Alton, for the customary moderation with which he mo...
Lord Darzi of Denham | 704 c1601-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Commons in their Amendment No. 1. I shall s...
Lord Darzi of Denham | 704 c1601 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I beg to move that the Commons amendments be now considered.
Moved accordingly, and, on Q...
Lord Alton of Liverpool | 704 c1603-6 (Link to this contribution)
moved, as an amendment to the Motion, Amendment No. 2A:
2A: Line 3, at end insert ““or in any circ...
Lord Darzi of Denham | 704 c1602-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Commons in their Amendment No. 2. These ame...
Baroness Thornton | 704 c1644 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, we have discussed this at great length. Evidence presented to the Joint Committee of both ...
Baroness Thornton | 704 c1647 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Commons in their Amendment No. 40, to which...
Baroness Thornton | 704 c1647 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Commons in their Amendments Nos. 38 and 39....
Baroness Thornton | 704 c1646 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Commons in their Amendment No. 37, to which...
Bishop of Southwell and Nottingham | 704 c1644-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I want to emulate the noble Lord, Lord Alton, by keeping moderation as the tone of the deb...
Lord Darzi of Denham | 704 c1649 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Commons in their Amendment No. 47, to which...
Lord Darzi of Denham | 704 c1649 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Commons in their Amendment No. 48. This is ...
Lord Darzi of Denham | 704 c1647-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Commons in their Amendments Nos. 41 to 45. ...
Lord Darzi of Denham | 704 c1649 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Commons in their Amendment No. 46. This is ...
Baroness Thornton | 704 c1649 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I shall speak to this amendment. This amendment will remove the privilege amendment that w...
Baroness O'Cathain | 704 c1667 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I want to make two quick points. Of course I support the noble Baroness, Lady Knight; what...
Baroness Barker | 704 c1667-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I wonder if I might delay the House slightly to make two points in particular. I am moved ...
Lord Elton | 704 c1668-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, they may not be sinister, but they are startling. That is what gives point to our delibera...
Lord Patel | 704 c1669-70 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, my name has been mentioned in relation to these amendments. The previous amendment I had t...
Baroness Thornton | 704 c1670-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the amendment tabled by the noble Baroness, Lady Knight, would remove all those important ...
Earl Ferrers | 704 c1672 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, before the noble Baroness sits down, could she answer the very telling question put by my ...
Baroness Thornton | 704 c1672 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thought that I had said that this amendment and these issues have been discussed at leng...
Lord Walton of Detchant | 704 c1672 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I talked about the GMC, not the BMA.
Baroness Knight of Collingtree | 704 c1672 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, at this time of night I will be very brief, but I must use my right of rebuttal to reply t...
Baroness Knight of Collingtree | 704 c1672-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, if that is the case, I should like to place on record that the view of the BMA has not bee...
Lord Darzi of Denham | 704 c1649-50 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Commons in their Amendments Nos. 49 to 54, ...
Baroness Thornton | 704 c1650-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Commons in their Amendment No. 55. I shall ...
Baroness Knight of Collingtree | 704 c1657-60 (Link to this contribution)
moved, as an amendment to the Motion, Amendment No. 92A, leave out ““agree”” and insert ““disagree””...
Lord Neill of Bladen | 704 c1660-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support the amendment put forward by the noble Baroness, Lady Knight. I want to concentr...
Lord Darzi of Denham | 704 c1652-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Commons in their Amendments Nos. 56 to 91, ...
Baroness Thornton | 704 c1656 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Commons in their Amendment No. 92.
Moved, ...
Lord Alton of Liverpool | 704 c1666-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support the noble Baroness, Lady Knight, because her Amendment No. 92A should command wi...
Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 704 c1665-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this is a remarkable amendment to have been proposed in the House of Commons in view of th...
Lord Waddington | 704 c1664-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, your Lordships will appreciate that there is a very important point to be made before we e...
Lord Walton of Detchant | 704 c1663-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, in speaking to this amendment, so skilfully moved by the noble Baroness, Lady Knight of Co...
Baroness Barker | 704 c1675 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it will come as a relief to noble Lords to know that I have absolutely no feelings on the ...
Lord Darzi of Denham | 704 c1675 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Commons in their Amendments Nos. 105 to 118...
Lord Darzi of Denham | 704 c1674 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Commons in their Amendments Nos. 93 to 103,...
Lord Darzi of Denham | 704 c1675 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Commons in their Amendment No. 104, which r...
Baroness O'Cathain | 704 c1644 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, perhaps I may ask the Minister a simple question. She used the word ““offensive”” when she...
Lord Tombs | 704 c1613-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I begin by reminding noble Lords that this amendment is about the use of human-animal embr...
Baroness Thornton | 704 c1632-3 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move that the House do agree with the Commons in their Amendment No. 31. I shall speak also...
Baroness Thornton | 704 c1627-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Commons in their Amendments Nos. 8 and 9. I...
Earl Howe | 704 c1620-2 (Link to this contribution)
moved, as an amendment to the Motion, Amendment No. 3A: "3A: Line 5, at end insert ““including any e...
Lord Bates | 704 c1612 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I humbly address the House as a new Member and a non-scientist. I suppose one might ask, t...
Lord Walton of Detchant | 704 c1606-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I remind my noble friend Lord Alton that issues relating to the use of cells derived from ...
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