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684 c837-71

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2005-06

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Wales Office

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Third reading

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Government of Wales Bill. As amended on Report (HL).
Wednesday, 28 June 2006
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Lord Roberts of Conwy | 684 c862 (Link to this contribution) moved AmendmentNo. 12: Page 82, line 29, at end insert ““, provided that such an Order is not to t...

Lord Livsey of Talgarth | 684 c862-4 (Link to this contribution) moved AmendmentNo. 14: Page 83, line 31, leave out subsections (2) to (6) and insert- ““(2) The Se...

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Lord Roberts of Conwy | 684 c862 (Link to this contribution) moved AmendmentNo. 13: Page 83, line 14, at end insert ““, provided that such an Order is not to t...

Lord Roberts of Conwy | 684 c864 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, very briefly, I have some sympathy with the amendment because I am antipathetic to the cla...

Lord Roberts of Llandudno | 684 c864 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, those of us who live in Wales, or visit it, can still see the slogan after 40 years, ““Cof...

Lord Thomas of Gresford | 684 c865 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the amendment. It so happens that my daughter-in-law’s family farm was drowned i...

Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 684 c865 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, when the noble Lord, Lord Livsey, rose to his feet he said that we had a debate on this ve...

Lord Roberts of Llandudno | 684 c865 (Link to this contribution) Forty years ago.

Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 684 c865 (Link to this contribution) Forty years, my Lords; I beg the noble Lord’s pardon. It happened a mere 40 years ago. The noble Lor...

Lord Prys-Davies | 684 c866 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, reference has been made to my noble friend Lord Elystan-Morgan. He very much regrets that ...

Lord Roberts of Conwy | 684 c869 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we are very grateful to the noble Lord for having given us prior notice of these technical...

Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 684 c868-9 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 15: Page 86, line 3, after ““made”” insert ““under an Assembly Measure or Act ...

Lord Livsey of Talgarth | 684 c867 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we have indeed had an interesting debate, and a number of assumptions have been made. I pa...

Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 684 c866-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to my noble friend for drawing that to our attention. The point that I was ...

Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 684 c870 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 17: Page 91, line 12, leave out from ““Act”” to end of line 23 and insert ““so...

Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 684 c870 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendments Nos. 18 to 21: Page 144, line 30, after ““Ministers”” insert ““alone”” Page 150...

Lord Livsey of Talgarth | 684 c869-70 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we on these Benches would like add to what has been said. I thank my noble friends Lord Th...

Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 684 c870 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 16: Page 86, line 10, after ““made”” insert ““under an Assembly Measure or Act...

Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 684 c870-1 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendments Nos. 22 to 25: Page 170, line 29, leave out from ““functions”” to ““held”” in lin...

Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 684 c871 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 26: Page 201, line 3, column 2, leave out from ““(3),”” to ““(b)”” in line 5 a...

Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 684 c871 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I beg to move that this Bill do now pass. Moved, That the Bill do now pass.—(Lord Evans o...

Lord Crickhowell | 684 c855 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in rising to support my noble friend’s amendment, I want to take up the exchange that has ...

Lord Thomas of Gresford | 684 c854 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, does the noble Lord agree with the point made by the noble Lord, Lord Roberts of Conwy, th...

Lord Roberts of Conwy | 684 c853 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as the noble Lord referred to my noble friend, I shall repeat the quotation: "““The real s...

Lord Rowlands | 684 c854 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that begs the question. The Executive to which these powers are being transferred are the ...

Lord Livsey of Talgarth | 684 c853 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we support this amendment, and it is a pleasant duty to do so, given the exchanges that to...

Lord Rowlands | 684 c853 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Roberts, quoted the view of the noble Lord, Lord Kingsland, that this...

Lord Livsey of Talgarth | 684 c851 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for his response. I hear what the noble Lord, Lord Crickhowell, says....

Lord Roberts of Conwy | 684 c851-3 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 9: Page 58, line 16, leave out from ““Parliament”” to end ofline 23. The nobl...

Lord Crickhowell | 684 c861-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I observed earlier that one of the difficulties here is that we start with Clause 104 and ...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 684 c857 (Link to this contribution) But, my Lords, within the Bill, which I and, I hope, the noble Lord, want to be enacted in the fairl...

Lord Roberts of Conwy | 684 c857-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to all those who have participated in this debate, especially to those who h...

Lord Crickhowell | 684 c859-61 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 10: Page 58, line 16, after ““Parliament”” insert ““and give notice in writing...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 684 c861 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord for raising this issue and I do not think there is any dif...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 684 c856 (Link to this contribution) Of course it is, my Lords, but I am indicating that within this framework we need discretion for the...

Lord Thomas of Gresford | 684 c856-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, do I understand the Minister to be introducing a new constitutional principle—he says that...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 684 c857 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, of course I am not gainsaying the sovereignty of Parliament. In fact, as the noble Lord wi...

Lord Thomas of Gresford | 684 c857 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, surely if Parliament has laid down that mechanism in the Act, there is no question of the ...

Lord Roberts of Conwy | 684 c856 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I must point out that the 120 days is actually the Government’s proposal in Clause 104.

Lord Kingsland | 684 c837 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 1: Page 22, line 34, at end insert- ““( ) Subsection (3) does not apply to any...

Lord Livsey of Talgarth | 684 c837 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, thank the Minister for the letter that he wrote to the noble Lord about matters th...

Lord Crickhowell | 684 c837 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have not seen the letter. Could a copy be put in the Library?

Lord Davies of Oldham | 684 c838 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I can confirm that the letter is already in the Library. Perhaps I would have been wiser t...

Lord Crickhowell | 684 c840 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise, first, to support my noble friend’s amendment and, secondly, to say that the noble...

Lord Kingsland | 684 c840 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 4: Page 52, line 22, at end insert ““, provided that such an Order is not to t...

Lord Thomas of Gresford | 684 c841 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we support the amendment. A simple point has been made by the noble Lord, Lord Kingsland. ...

Lord Livsey of Talgarth | 684 c838-9 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 2: Page 27, line 27, at end insert- ““( ) The First Minister shall tender his ...

Lord Kingsland | 684 c838 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. Clause 46 [The Fi...

Lord Livsey of Talgarth | 684 c839-40 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope the Minister will not mind my saying this, but his comments brought to mind somethi...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 684 c839 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not think there is a great deal of difference between us, nor is there a major issue ...

Lord Thomas of Gresford | 684 c843 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have two questions for the Minister. First, is he saying that this provision is to deal ...

Lord Thomas of Gresford | 684 c843 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, is it limited to that?

Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 684 c843 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that is correct.

Lord Kingsland | 684 c843-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, first I must say how much I have enjoyed working with the Minister throughout this Bill. H...

Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 684 c843 (Link to this contribution) Yes, my Lords, I can confirm that that is the case.

Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 684 c843 (Link to this contribution) Yes, my Lords.

Lord Livsey of Talgarth | 684 c847-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank noble Lords for their responses. I note what they have said and understand why the...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 684 c847 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Roberts, because he has largely made my case for me....

Lord Roberts of Conwy | 684 c846-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the main feature of these amendments is that they exclude both Houses of this Parliament f...

Lord Livsey of Talgarth | 684 c845-6 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 5: Page 52, line 28, leave out paragraph (b). The noble Lord said: My Lords, ...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 684 c848 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps the noble Lord will allow me to intervene. If he is talking about the dominions an...

Lord Livsey of Talgarth | 684 c848-9 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 8: Page 57, line 36, at end insert- ““( ) The Secretary of State shall lay an ...

Lord Livsey of Talgarth | 684 c848 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I understand that. I do not wish to have that debate here today, and I am sure that noble ...

Lord Thomas of Gresford | 684 c849 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, curiously enough, I was of the opinion that the noble Lord, Lord Crickhowell, wanted a ref...

Lord Crickhowell | 684 c849 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I never cease to marvel at the ability of the Liberal Democrats to contradict its own argu...

Lord Roberts of Llandudno | 684 c850 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have listened to the Minister with great interest. Does he, therefore, say that one shou...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 684 c849-50 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is not for me, from this Dispatch Box, to intrude on private grief. The noble Lord, Lor...

Lord Roberts of Llandudno | 684 c850 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, yes.

Lord Davies of Oldham | 684 c850 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord seems to have left out general elections in Britain. Is the Liberal Democra...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 684 c850-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in that case, I am surprised that he did not bring that into his argument. Let me be absol...

Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 684 c841-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, on Report the noble Lord, Lord Kingsland, said: "““I am partially satisfied by what the Mi...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 684 c855-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we have had an interesting debate on this important amendment. As far as the Government ar...

Lord Rowlands | 684 c854-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I understand the point that the noble Lord is making, but let us talk real politics. If th...

Lord Thomas of Gresford | 684 c843 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, do I also understand the Minister to say that there would be no question of the Welsh Asse...

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