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Environment Bill

Lords committee stage third day. Clauses 16 to 28 agreed to, with clauses 18, 22 and 27 agreed to as amended. Schedule 1 agreed to.
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813 cc558-668 
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2021-22
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Committee stage
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Lord Haskel | 813 c558 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will call Members to speak in the order listed. During the debate on each group I inv...

Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb | 813 c558 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb

73: Clause 16, page 10, line 9, at end insert—...


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Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb | 813 cc558-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is my pleasure to open the debate, especially on this group of essential amendments,...

Baroness Parminter | 813 cc559-561 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have two amendments in the group. Their aim, rather like those of the noble Baroness,...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 813 cc561-3 (Link to this contribution)

I am delighted to speak to this small group of amendments. I shall speak particularly to my Amend...

Lord Wigley | 813 c562 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am delighted as always to follow the noble Baroness, Lady McIntosh, and well understa...

Lord Hope of Craighead | 813 cc564-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as always, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Wigley. I am speaking about ...

Baroness Boycott | 813 cc566-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is always a great pleasure to follow the noble and learned Lord, Lord Hope. I rise t...

Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle | 813 cc567-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a great pleasure to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Boycott, and to thank her for...

Duke of Wellington | 813 cc568-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will briefly speak to Amendment 76 tabled by the noble Baronesses, Lady Parminter, La...

Baroness Young of Old Scone | 813 cc569-570 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I note that—and am honoured to be—listed twice on the speakers’ list for both this and ...

Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 813 c570 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Duke, the Duke of Montrose, has withdrawn, so I call the noble Baroness, Lady Neville-R...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 813 cc570-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the Government’s approach on this. Requiring a policy statement on environmen...

Viscount Trenchard | 813 cc571-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a great pleasure to follow my noble friend Lady Neville-Rolfe, and I agree with e...

Baroness Quin | 813 cc572-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is the first opportunity that I have had to speak on the Bill, since I was unable ...

Lord Krebs | 813 cc573-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I strongly support the amendments in this group that aim to strengthen the role of envi...

Lord Berkeley | 813 cc574-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support some of the amendments in this group in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady ...

Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 813 c575 (Link to this contribution)

As the noble Baroness, Lady Young of Old Scone, pointed out in her earlier speech, she has been l...

Baroness Bakewell of Hardington Mandeville | 813 cc575-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I declare my interest as a vice-president of the LGA. This is a very extensive group of...

Baroness Hayman of Ullock | 813 cc576-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it has been a very interesting debate, with some excellent speeches. I hope the Ministe...

Lord Goldsmith of Richmond Park | 813 cc578-582 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords for their contributions on this important subject.

I star...

Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall | 813 c581 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have received two requests to speak after the Minister, from the noble Earl, Lord Cai...

Earl of Caithness | 813 c581 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I listened with care to what the noble Lord, Lord Krebs, said about the precautionary p...

Lord Goldsmith of Richmond Park | 813 c581 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, on the first question, I felt that I answered the noble Lord, Lord Krebs, in some detai...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 813 c583 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, given all the respect and affection in which I hold him, I am slightly dismayed that my...

Lord Goldsmith of Richmond Park | 813 c583 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my noble friend. I think she offered to submit other examples in case law, and I look for...

Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb | 813 cc583-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have taken part in this debate, even the ones who have disa...

Lord Goldsmith of Richmond Park | 813 c585 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Goldsmith of Richmond Park

80: Clause 18, page 11, line 26, at end inse...

Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall | 813 c585 (Link to this contribution)

I shall take that intervention as inadvertent—although the noble and learned Lord, Lord Hope, has...

Lord Hope of Craighead | 813 c585 (Link to this contribution)

I am not quite sure whether I am audible or not. I just want to thank the Minister for his kind r...

Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall | 813 c585 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we come now to the group consisting of Amendment 81A. Anyone wishing to press this to a...

Lord Hope of Craighead | 813 c585 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Hope of Craighead

81A: Clause 19, page 11, line 31, at end insert—

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Lord Hope of Craighead | 813 cc586-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hope I can be heard. Amendment 81A is a probing amendment, for reasons that I hope to...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 813 cc587-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am delighted to support Amendment 81A, which I have co-signed. I support entirely the...

Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall | 813 c588 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I understood that the noble Baroness, Lady Bennett, had withdrawn from this debate—but ...

Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle | 813 c588 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you. There was an administrative snafu, which I understood had been sorted out. I apologise...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 813 c589 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Bennett, and to agree with her on t...

Baroness Parminter | 813 c589 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will be brief. After what was a fruitcake of amendments, we are now on a fairly simpl...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 813 cc589-590 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I, too, shall be quite brief. I am grateful to the noble and learned Lord, Lord Hope, f...

Lord Goldsmith of Richmond Park | 813 cc590-1 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble and learned Lord, Lord Hope of Craighead, for his Amendment 81A. It summarises ...

Lord Hope of Craighead | 813 c591 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very grateful to all noble Lords who have spoken in this short debate. I must than...

Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall | 813 c591 (Link to this contribution)

We now come to the group beginning with Amendment 82. Anyone wishing to press this or anything el...

Lord Cameron of Dillington | 813 cc591-2 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Cameron of Dillington

82: Before Clause 21, insert the following new Cl...

Lord Cameron of Dillington | 813 cc592-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I know this group of amendments is unlikely to find favour with Defra. While I normally...

Baroness Boycott | 813 cc596-7 (Link to this contribution)

It is a great pleasure to follow my noble friend Lord Cameron. Like him, I am very much a “cross”...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 813 cc597-8 (Link to this contribution)

I am delighted to support and speak to the amendments in this group. As we are considering in det...

Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb | 813 c598 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Cameron of Dillington, introduced his amendments extremely well. T...

Baroness Garden of Frognal | 813 c598 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord, Lord Inglewood, has withdrawn, so I call the noble Lord, Lord Krebs.

Lord Krebs | 813 c599 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before I turn to the amendments in this grouping, I refer to a comment that the noble E...

Lord Hope of Craighead | 813 cc599-600 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, while I do not support every detail of Amendment 82 and tend to prefer Amendment 85, th...

Baroness Garden of Frognal | 813 c600 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Baroness, Lady Young of Old Scone has withdrawn, as she is listed twice on th...

Lord Cormack | 813 cc600-2 (Link to this contribution)

A few moments ago the noble Lord, Lord Krebs, referred to this as the core amendment of the Bill....

Lord Framlingham | 813 c601 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very happy to support Amendment 82. I thank the noble Lord, Lord Cameron, for deal...

Earl of Caithness | 813 cc601-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, when the office of environmental protection was mooted, I hoped it would be on the same...

Lord Whitty | 813 cc603-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, there has been near unanimity in condemnation of what is currently in the schedule to d...

Lord Rooker | 813 cc604-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I agree on the importance of this part of the Bill. Indeed, it is the only part of the ...

Lord Oates | 813 cc606-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am pleased to speak from these Benches in favour of the amendments in this group and ...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 813 cc608-610 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we have had an excellent debate. I feel as if I have had a master class from some very ...

Lord Goldsmith of Richmond Park | 813 cc610-3 (Link to this contribution)

I thank noble Lords for this important debate. Before I get into the points raised, I thank the n...

Baroness Garden of Frognal | 813 c613 (Link to this contribution)

I have received a request to speak after the Minister from the noble Lord, Lord Teverson.

Lord Teverson | 813 c613 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I get the impression from that short reply that the Minister does not understand the gr...

Lord Goldsmith of Richmond Park | 813 cc613-4 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord for this question, which relates to ministerial interference in the OEP. M...

Lord Cameron of Dillington | 813 c614 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have taken part in this debate—this core debate as the nobl...

Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall | 813 c615 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we come now to the group beginning with Amendment 89. Anyone wishing to press this or a...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 813 c615 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering

89: Schedule 1, page 130, line 36, at end ins...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 813 cc615-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am delighted to move Amendment 89 and speak to Amendment 90. I am grateful to the nob...

Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall | 813 c616 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I had thought that the noble Baroness, Lady Jones of Moulsecoomb, intended to speak, bu...

Viscount Trenchard | 813 c616 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thought I understood the intention of my noble friend Lady McIntosh in these amendmen...

Lord Whitty | 813 cc616-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, mine is a very brief point which goes in the opposite direction to the noble Viscount’s...

Lord Bruce of Bennachie | 813 cc617-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was very happy to support and sign this amendment, which has been explained by the no...

Baroness Hayman of Ullock | 813 c618 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is interesting to hear the noble Baroness, Lady McIntosh of Pickering, introduce her...

Lord Goldsmith of Richmond Park | 813 cc618-9 (Link to this contribution)

I hope I went some way at least towards reassuring noble Lords about the robust process for appoi...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 813 c619 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very grateful for the opportunity to have this little debate and to all those who ...

Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall | 813 c619 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we come now to the group beginning with Amendment 92. Anyone wishing to press this or a...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 813 cc619-620 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering

92: Schedule 1, page 132, line 41, at end ins...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 813 c620 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful again to have the opportunity to press and probe my noble friend further ...

Lord Bruce of Bennachie | 813 cc621-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am happy to be a co-signatory of Amendment 92, and I am pleased to support the case t...

Lord Rooker | 813 c622 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, very briefly, the Bill does not require the Secretary of State to pay. Subsection (1) r...

Lord Krebs | 813 cc622-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in speaking briefly in support of this group of amendments, I refer back to the budget ...

Lord Cameron of Dillington | 813 c623 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, after my remarks a moment ago on the independence of the OEP, it will come as no surpri...

Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall | 813 c623 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Baroness, Lady Boycott, has withdrawn, so I call the noble Baroness, Lady Ritchie of Do...

Baroness Ritchie of Downpatrick | 813 cc623-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Cameron of Dillington.

I support ...

Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall | 813 c624 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Baroness, Lady Young of Old Scone, has withdrawn, so I call the noble Baroness, Lady Pa...

Baroness Parminter | 813 cc624-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we on these Benches support both amendments. The noble Baroness, Lady McIntosh of Picke...

Lord Khan of Burnley | 813 cc625-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to speak to Amendment 92 in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady McIntosh of Pic...

Lord Goldsmith of Richmond Park | 813 cc626-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I very much hope so. I thank my noble friend Lady McIntosh and the noble Baroness, Lady...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 813 c627 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to all who have spoken, and I am particularly grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Bruc...

Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall | 813 c628 (Link to this contribution)

We come now to the group beginning with Amendment 94. Anyone wishing to press this or anything el...

Lord Krebs | 813 c628 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Krebs

94: Schedule 1, page 134, line 3, leave out “have regard to the n...

Lord Krebs | 813 cc628-630 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, with the leave of the House, I will move Amendment 94 on behalf of the noble Baroness, ...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 813 cc630-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, continuing the theme of great minds thinking alike, apparently the requests for a claus...

Baroness Ritchie of Downpatrick | 813 cc631-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a delight to follow the noble Baroness, Lady McIntosh of Pickering. I support the...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 813 c633 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am glad to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Ritchie of Downpatrick, and to hear from h...

Baroness Parminter | 813 cc633-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Neville-Rolfe. We often agree but o...

Lord Rooker | 813 cc634-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, briefly, the Minister would be well advised to pay attention to what the noble Baroness...

Lord Anderson of Ipswich | 813 c636 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak to Amendment 100, in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady McIntosh; Amend...

Baroness Barker | 813 c637 (Link to this contribution)

We appear not to have the noble Baroness, Lady Bennett of Manor Castle, so I call the noble Lord,...

Lord Cameron of Dillington | 813 c637 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I strongly support the messages being delivered in this group of amendments. Above all,...

Baroness Barker | 813 c637 (Link to this contribution)

I call the noble Baroness, Lady Bennett of Manor Castle.

Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle | 813 cc637-8 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Deputy Chairman. My Lords, I offer support for all these amendments, but particularly ...

Lord Hope of Craighead | 813 cc638-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I cannot help feeling that there is an air of unreality about this debate. Everyone on ...

Lord Randall of Uxbridge | 813 cc639-640 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have not taken part directly in these important debates around the OEP, mainly becaus...

Lord Teverson | 813 cc640-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I start by quoting the noble Baroness, Lady Neville-Rolfe, who said that the OEP was “a...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 813 cc642-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Krebs, for introducing this suite of amendments—i...

Lord Goldsmith of Richmond Park | 813 cc644-6 (Link to this contribution)

I thank noble Lords for their contributions. I will begin by addressing the amendments tabled by ...

Lord Krebs | 813 cc645-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords for their excellent contributions to this debate; it is the sec...

Baroness Barker | 813 c647 (Link to this contribution)

We now come to the group beginning with Amendment 95. Anyone wishing to press this or anything el...

Lord Goldsmith of Richmond Park | 813 c647 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Goldsmith of Richmond Park

95: Clause 22, page 13, line 25, at end inse...

Lord Goldsmith of Richmond Park | 813 c647 (Link to this contribution)

Amendment 95 creates a duty for the OEP to set out in its strategy how it intends to interact wit...

Lord Lucas | 813 cc647-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 96 in my name has nothing to do with Amendment 95 but, for the convenience of...

Duke of Montrose | 813 c649 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in addressing the amendment put forward by my noble friend the Minister, the Committee ...

Lord Krebs | 813 c649 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will make a couple of brief points in relation to Amendment 96 in the name of the nob...

Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle | 813 cc649-650 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a great pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Krebs. As always, his contributio...

Lord Hope of Craighead | 813 c650 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Minister invited me to welcome government amendment 95, which of course I do and I ...

Baroness Boycott | 813 c651 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a great pleasure to follow the noble and learned Lord, Lord Hope.

I want to...

Lord Khan of Burnley | 813 cc651-2 (Link to this contribution)

I shall speak to government Amendment 95 and Amendment 96 in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Luc...

Lord Goldsmith of Richmond Park | 813 cc652-3 (Link to this contribution)

I thank noble Lords for their contributions.

Although I welcome the commitment to transpare...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 813 c653 (Link to this contribution)

I have had one request to speak after the Minister, from the noble Lord, Lord Lucas.

Lord Lucas | 813 c653 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very grateful to my noble friend for his explanation of the reasons why he cannot ...

Lord Goldsmith of Richmond Park | 813 c653 (Link to this contribution)

I simply say that I very strongly agree, and that will remain a focus of the Government.

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 813 c653 (Link to this contribution)

We now come to the group beginning with Amendment 97. Anyone wishing to press this or anything el...

Baroness Hayman of Ullock | 813 c653 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hayman of Ullock

97: Clause 22, page 13, line 32, at end insert—

Baroness Hayman of Ullock | 813 cc654-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to propose Amendment 97, which—like Amendment 289, which I will also speak to—is...

Baroness Bakewell of Hardington Mandeville | 813 cc656-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Hayman of Ullock. I support Amendme...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 813 c657 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Baroness, Lady Neville-Rolfe, and the noble Lord, Lord Rooker, have indicated that they...

Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb | 813 c657 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is an interesting group. I will stick to talking about Amendment 281 in the name o...

Baroness Fox of Buckley | 813 cc658-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Jones of Moulsecoomb. Guess what—I ...

Lord Teverson | 813 cc659-661 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I listened to that speech by the noble Baroness, Lady Fox of Buckley, with great intere...

Baroness Bloomfield of Hinton Waldrist | 813 cc660-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this debate was always going to raise great passions and I understand the different vie...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 813 c663 (Link to this contribution)

I have received one request to speak after the Minister from the noble Lord, Lord Teverson.

Lord Teverson | 813 c663 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Baroness for that excellent reply and information but, as we are in Committee, ...

Baroness Bloomfield of Hinton Waldrist | 813 c663 (Link to this contribution)

I think the current estimate of costs is actually significantly less than £1 billion. I have come...

Baroness Hayman of Ullock | 813 c663 (Link to this contribution)

I thank all noble Lords who have taken the trouble to take part in this debate. I thank the noble...

Lord Goldsmith of Richmond Park | 813 c665 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Goldsmith of Richmond Park

101: Clause 27, page 15, line 32, leave out ...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 813 c665 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we now come to the group beginning with Amendment 103. Anyone wishing to press this or ...

Baroness Parminter | 813 c665 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Parminter

103: Clause 29, page 17, line 7, at end insert “and any o...

Baroness Parminter | 813 cc665-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall try to be brief but I have two amendments in this group, Amendments 103 and 104...

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