Intellectual Property (Exhaustion of Rights) (EU Exit) Regulations 2018

Will the noble Lord give way until I complete this sentence? I shall speak also to the Trade Mark...

May I ask that these regulations be considered separately? Can the noble Lord also tell us whethe...

My Lords, I am not aware that these regulations have yet been through the Commons, but they will ...

With respect, that is only if everyone agrees—and I for one do not agree.

I notice that the noble Lord does not agree, but in line with the usual courtesies of the House, ...

My Lords—

If the noble Baroness will give way and be patient. If it is convenient to the Committee, I think...

My Lords, this is not the most sensible way to proceed. Distinct legal issues arise in each of th...

Can I be clear on what the noble Lord is saying? Is he saying that he will move these three regul...

My Lords, obviously I am in the hands of the Committee and I am quite happy to do whatever the Co...

My Lords—

Sit down. The noble Lord can wait a minute.

My Lords—

I am not giving way—

That is a terrible way to address another Member of the House. Will the noble Lord withdraw that ...

I will apologise to the noble Lord for that. He has probably been treated in much the same way on...

The noble Lord said that he will apologise; when will that happen?

The noble Baroness and noble Lords opposite are having fun. I will continue.

We are doing our job.

I have never been addressed in that way before by a colleague, in 26 years in the House of Common...

My Lords, no communications have come to me to the effect that the noble Lord wished to take thes...

My Lords, can the Minister expand for a moment on what he has just said? Am I to understand that ...

My Lords, what we are doing concerns the event the noble Lord is addressing—that is, if there is ...

My Lords, is the clarification which the Minister has so helpfully given clear in the regulations...

I am making it clear in my speech that these are no-deal regulations. They are described as EU ex...

Exit has many meanings. It would be clearer if it said in the regulations that they will fall in ...

I am making it clear to the Committee that they fall—they have no effect—if there is a deal. The ...

From what the Minister just said, it sounds as though British holders of intellectual property co...

Obviously, there will be changes once we move out. We are trying to set out what will happen to B...

I have been the chairman of a number of companies holding significant intellectual property right...

My Lords, I will deal with consultation when I wind up this debate after the noble Baroness and o...

Paragraph 10.1 of the Explanatory Memorandum says:

“No formal consultation has been carried...

My Lords, there has been no formal consultation. Obviously, there have been informal discussions,...

My Lords—

Could I finish this point? The Intellectual Property Office has been engaging with businesses acr...

Why has there been no formal consultation, given the interests at stake to which my noble friend ...

It is important that we make sure that we are capable of dealing with no deal. That is why govern...

Can the Minister tell us what the results of that informal consultation have been? It is importan...

At this stage, I am not in a position to tell the noble Lord the result of that consultation, or ...

My Lords, we are trying to do our job here. The Minister has confirmed that the regulations poten...

I may be able to help the Minister because I spoke to the IPO this morning about the second set o...

My Lords, I thought that we were debating the first set of regulations at this stage. We will get...

My Lords—

I will give way to the noble Lord in a minute, when I have finished. I can only answer points if ...

I would if we stayed in the European Union.

That is not a matter for debate on this occasion. We are not discussing that.

But it would make me very happy.

I am grateful to the Minister, who has been generous in his advice to the Grand Committee, but I ...

There is the Prime Minister’s deal, which I very much hope another place will agree to in due cou...

I hate to labour the point, but the Minister did himself say that British businesses will potenti...

The noble Baroness is putting words into my mouth that I did not utter in saying that I thought B...

You said it would potentially be at a disadvantage.

I ask the noble Baroness to refrain from intervening from a sedentary position. What I said is th...

My Lords, paragraph 12.2 of the Explanatory Memorandum to these regulations says:

“There ma...

I cannot give a precise figure for those costs. My belief is that they are generally relatively m...

My Lords—

I am going to conclude this section and then the noble Baroness may intervene. It provides clarit...

I am grateful. The Minister has just referred to consultation. Paragraph 10.1 of the Explanatory ...

Because there are other matters that will be more important, such as getting the consultation rig...

My Lords, before the noble Lord sits down, the question that is coming up time and again in the G...

Before the Minister rises to answer that, I want to put a proposition to him. He gave me a rollic...

Again and with all due respect, I think that the noble Lord is possibly misinterpreting what I sa...

I did not say you said it; I said the IPO said it.

What I am trying to deal with is the question about how we get a no deal. If there is to be no de...

My Lords, I did not come to Grand Committee today expecting to speak on intellectual property. I ...

My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness for giving way. Could she explain to the Grand Committee—som...

The issue is where something has come from. You could export it under the terms of a licence, but...

My Lords, with great consideration, the Minister took a number of interventions on his speech and...

I wonder whether the noble Lord has been paying particular attention to Part 2 of the Explanatory...

The noble Lord makes an extremely important point, and not just in respect of paragraph 2.1. I ha...

It looks like we are on, my Lords. There is a great deal that one could say about the way in whic...

My Lords, it has been a lonely journey to the heart of the intellectual property policies in this...

My Lords, as always, I thank all noble Lords for their contributions, and hope I can deal with al...

The Minister may say that, but he has to answer the question about why the international exhausti...

I do not think I can take it any further. As I have made clear to the noble Lord, this is dealing...

My Lords—

I am not giving way until I have finished this sentence. As I have made clear—I think I have alre...

My Lords, without putting too fine a point on it, I am arguing that in a no-deal situation it nee...

I will get to the Silhouette case later on. Although I will comment on it briefly, it might be th...

My Lords, I have one final intervention on this point. The noble Lord can take us no further—he i...

No, I do not believe it is a leap of faith. It provides the clarity that business needs, in the f...

My Lords, one could easily quarrel with that statement. The regime set up by the SI is, as descri...

My Lords, I repeat what I said: this is designed, as an exit SI, to deal with leaving without a d...

My Lords—

I am not giving way to the noble Lord until I have finished my point. I have a right to make this...

I am grateful to the Minister. I have listened to this for about an hour and he keeps using the s...

My Lords, I reject any suggestion that officials have been constrained in what they can do. The p...

I am grateful to the noble Lord for giving way. I was going to try to be helpful, although he may...

I cannot remember whether that is the case with this set of regulations, but the noble Lord is ri...

My Lords, although the Minister has characterised these regulations as simply putting in place th...

I accept that the noble Lord is right that business would consider a no-deal situation to have ma...

The point about the impact assessment concerns me. The noble Lord, Lord Bates, who is eagerly awa...

I am not sure I can take the noble Baroness and noble Lords any further on this point, other than...

Before the Minister moves on, I would like to say that the whole—

I have not given way yet. If the noble Baroness will wait for me, I will now give way to her.

My point is that the whole situation seems to be pretty hypothetical. We are trying to consider w...

I do not accept that. What we are trying to do by passing no-deal regulations is to ensure a degr...

My Lords, I accept the Minister’s offer, because that was quite a confusing response. Precisely b...

My legal eagles will be hard at work on producing just such a letter for the noble Lord, and I ho...

My Lords, can the Minister confirm that they will be no-deal SIs on the same basis as the other t...

If it is necessary that there be no-deal SIs, then yes, there will be a no-deal SI. I am advised ...

My Lords, it might be helpful, as this is the first instrument that the Committee has considered ...

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