Animal Welfare (Exports)
I beg to move,
That this House has considered the matter of live animal exports and animal ...
Can the hon. Lady advise us whether that was in any way gold-plating of EU regulations?
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I am sure the horses and sheep would have had something to say if it had been. That legislation w...
If I could take the hon. Lady back to the vessel that carries the animals across the channel, doe...
The trade used to be out of Dover, but there was an issue with berths and some of the animal tran...
Is this not another example of the UK gold-plating regulations while the rest of Europe ignores t...
That is an important point. The commissioner told me that one of his key priorities was to enforc...
Is the hon. Lady aware of any countries that are not complying with the minimum standards set out...
I do not have precise knowledge of which countries are not complying with the regulations. Animal...
On the question of port inspections, I was concerned to note that only 45 out of almost 40,000 an...
There are issues about the EU, and there are issues about the competent authority. The competent ...
On the point about enforcement, my hon. Friend might be aware that article 26.6 of European Counc...
I welcome my hon. Friend’s great knowledge of EU regulations. I will come to that point in a mome...
Some farmers in Northern Ireland say that they are at the mercy of the prices that local slaughte...
I know that the trade in Ireland is much bigger than it is on the mainland—or certainly than it i...
I congratulate my hon. Friend on securing the debate. I, too, would support a ban on live animal ...
I totally agree. The transportations that go out of Ramsgate can come not only from the north of ...
I am glad that my hon. Friend is focusing on the welfare of animals. Does she agree that that is ...
Absolutely. Animals can be transported across Europe, and the journey need not involve crossing w...
I confess that I have not finished my research for the debate, so, given that we have reached it ...
As I understand it, there are two quite distinct trades. The animals exported through my port are...
According to Compassion in World Farming, about 4.5 million sheep were slaughtered in the UK in 2...
I am grateful for the hon. Lady’s knowledge in this field, which is extensive.
I asked the ...
The hon. Lady is setting out the case very clearly. She makes the point that animal welfare is ce...
I agree with hon. Gentleman. A point about gold-plating was raised earlier. It applies to some of...
Does my hon. Friend feel that if the cost were put on the operator, it might discourage some of t...
It is crucial that we accept and tolerate only the very best transporters in the sector. I feel s...
My understanding is that there is a cost to licensing. I shall use the example of George Neville’...
That sounds like the Rolls-Royce of transportation, and I would be very pleased if the animals co...
Is the hon. Lady aware of anyone who has been refused a licence, and how many licences have been ...
Order. We are now 25 minutes into this debate, when 10 to 15 minutes was expected. The hon. Lady ...
Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker. I am sure that the Minister will be happy to answer the questions p...
I congratulate the hon. Member for South Thanet (Laura Sandys) on her efforts to arrange a debate...
Today we are discussing live animal exports, but there are live animal imports as well, and some ...
I am pleased to hear the hon. Gentleman speaking out on animal welfare issues, as I know he has d...
We all respect the hon. Lady’s views on these matters, but I fear that an eight-hour limit would ...
I was coming to that. The motion in the European Parliament was passed by 555 votes to 56, which ...
It is a pleasure to take part in this debate, as it is directly relevant to my life experience. I...
I was going to finish there, but as the hon. Lady wants to intervene, I shall pretend I have anot...
I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman. I listened intently to the points he made. I did not agree w...
I am terribly sorry if my speech came across as any sort of confessional. Throughout my involveme...
The hon. Gentleman may be leading us to a more compassionate future if he decides to finish the s...
I am not sure whether the hon. Gentleman is being completely serious, but I rather agree with the...
It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Montgomeryshire (Glyn Davies), who demonstrated hi...
I noted the hon. Gentleman’s comments about an eight-hour transporting limit, but that would prec...
I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for his question. The point was dealt with earlier by my hon....
I appreciate what the hon. Gentleman is saying and he is setting out his case very clearly. Does ...
That is a very good question to conclude the points I am making to the Minister. As I said in my ...
It is a great pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Poplar and Limehouse (Jim Fitzpatrick), who ...
Does my hon. Friend agree that zero tolerance should include stricter penalties for abuses of the...
I absolutely agree with my hon. Friend. People who are found to have repeatedly committed crimina...
I am listening carefully to what the hon. Gentleman is saying about animal movements. Even in the...
The hon. Gentleman makes a good point and his experience of representing his constituency is impo...
I have spoken already about executive transport for cattle and sheep, with which I am familiar. I...
My hon. Friend makes an important point. The discussion this afternoon shows that although some h...
The hon. Gentleman is making a very good speech, and I would join in the many compliments to my h...
Indeed—not only enforcement at the ports, but the right sort of facilities at the ports to deal, ...
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
I will give way to my good friend from Newport.
Always a friend of the farmers on this subject.
We heard about the very distressing case of...
I thank the hon. Gentleman for that. It may be that that lorry was stopped for a suspected traffi...
I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for giving way a second time; he is very kind. Perhaps I shou...
I thank the hon. Gentleman for that intervention. Those of us who have been involved in animal pr...
I am grateful, Mr Deputy Speaker, to have caught your eye. It has been an excellent consensual de...
Opting for an all-out ban right now would be against EU law, but does the hon. Gentleman agree th...
No, I do not agree that we should have an outright ban. If the hon. Lady had been here since the ...
I am sorry, but the condescension coming from the hon. Gentleman is hard to bear. He is implying ...
Obviously I speak regularly with the National Farmers Union of Scotland, and I know that colleagu...
As I said, I strongly disagree with the implicit assumption that cruelty is involved. I produce l...
It is fair to say that the hon. Gentleman and I do not agree on every issue, so the fact that we ...
Does the hon. Gentleman suppose that the entire membership of the RSPCA are not sensible people? ...
I think that the word the hon. Lady wants is “patronising” rather than “patronage”, but I accept ...
I will indeed do that. One of my reasons for calling for a wide-ranging review is not only to foc...
That is a good point. I would like three major players in the industry to give evidence—the farme...
It is a great pleasure to take part in this debate, and I thank my hon. Friend the Member for Sou...
My hon. Friend and I met the English Beef and Lamb Executive this morning, and I pay tribute to i...
What about Scottish lamb?
There must be similar organisations in Scotland and Northern Ireland. These organisations do wond...
I endorse my hon. Friend’s comments about EBLEX, which is doing a good job in promoting our lamb ...
The west country is in England!
Parts of the west country are in England, but I will not enter into that debate this afternoon.
Does the hon. Gentleman agree that it would be appropriate for our Committee to look at the condi...
I agree with the hon. Gentleman—we could look at all of that. One of the issues that I have spent...
I apologise, Madam Deputy Speaker, for not being here at the beginning of the debate. Unfortunate...
Several of us who spoke earlier—I accept that the hon. Lady has greater difficulties than others ...
I thank the hon. Gentleman for his intervention, which I genuinely think is extremely helpful and...
The hon. Lady has mentioned guarantees in live export. As a crofter, I cannot give guarantees on ...
I thank the hon. Gentleman for his intervention. I suppose that he makes my point. There is a par...
Some of us are concerned that people do not draw a distinction between export and the movement of...
That is a helpful intervention. I would much prefer to see many more small, local abattoirs aroun...
The hon. Lady seems to be missing the point that was made earlier about some of our smaller commu...
What I am saying is that we could be more creative in looking for solutions. In other countries w...
Will the hon. Lady give way?
No, because I want to make some progress, if I may.
Calf exports have been declining amid c...
I am puzzled. Does the hon. Lady not recognise that, given the current location of abattoirs, an ...
I thank the hon. Gentleman for his intervention, but we need to look for solutions to that proble...
I, too, apologise for arriving late to the debate. I do not have the same excuse as the hon. Memb...
My hon. Friend has been an absolute champion of agricultural workers during his time in Parliamen...
My hon. Friend always knows the point of vulnerability in a debate. I have never been convinced a...
I have been listening carefully to the hon. Gentleman and reading about this issue. Surely when t...
My hon. Friend the Member for Dunfermline and West Fife (Thomas Docherty) will come back and argu...
My hon. Friend makes a powerful point about ensuring that adequate resources are available to do ...
I think that the Minister heard the question; he does not need me to repeat it.
The Ministe...
Madam Deputy Speaker, I apologise to you and the House for not being present at the start of the ...
Order. That causes some difficulty. We have now had three Members in a row taking part in a debat...
I have been a Member of Parliament since 1983 and I absolutely agree with everything you have sai...
I understand the hon. Gentleman’s reasons for being late. Does he agree that doing television is ...
Order. We are really not going to follow that route. We are considering a serious subject, and I ...
The late Member of Parliament for Newham, North-West, Tony Banks, was a great champion of animal ...
I disagree about animal exports, but would the hon. Gentleman concede that sometimes animals can ...
I recognise that hon. Members rightly represent all sorts of interests. I have said that I suppor...
Like me, the hon. Gentleman supports banning the use of wild animals in circuses. One of the solu...
I cannot believe for a moment that that would be the result if the motion was supported. I want t...
I am intrigued about the carol service for animals. Was it per chance, “The cattle are lowing, th...
I think the hon. Member for Southend West (Mr Amess) has finished, so, if that was your speech, M...
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It is a privilege to follow such a commendable contribution. I understand that a few weeks ago on...
My hon. Friend is making an eloquent case. He just mentioned personal experience. Will he say a b...
I shall return later to the specific things that the inquiry should consider—it will not be an ex...
Indeed. I am just worried about any inheritance potential, so I had better continue.
For ma...
The hon. Gentleman makes an important point about the reduction in the number of abattoirs. In th...
The hon. Gentleman makes a good intervention, which points to a long-term trend. Some of the reas...
I give way to the Chair of the Select Committee on Environment, Food and Rural Affairs.
As the Minister probably knows, an announcement on Vion is imminent, but does the hon. Member for...
The hon. Lady is absolutely right about the popularity of small abattoirs increasing as people be...
Is it not also true that a local abattoir gets better meat because there is less stress on the an...
I am not in a position to make a completely evidence-based judgment on that. I can only say that ...
Perhaps I can help my hon. Friend out. The answer is that it depends on the stress that the anima...
My hon. Friend makes a perfectly formed point.
I shall proceed at a rate of knots now, beca...
indicated assent.
I am glad the Minister confirms that.
My hon. Friend the Member for Dunfermline and West Fi...
indicated dissent.
The Minister shakes his head, so the advice is still the same. In that case, our focus must be on...
Is not the key point the fact that when it comes to the crossing of borders, animal welfare is th...
Yes, the hon. Gentleman makes a point that is absolutely valid. We strongly believe in that focus...
A local farmer recently approached me to say that for the first time he has won an order to trans...
That is not what I am proposing. What I am proposing is a live debate. Given the existence of a p...
I think that the public often assume that all animal transport takes place in the worst condition...
As we know, the big issues that hit the headlines in the press involve the worst possible example...
I agree with the hon. Member for Ogmore (Huw Irranca-Davies) that this has been an extremely good...
We have the opportunity to recognise and celebrate this high standard of animal welfare in this c...
That is precisely the case, and now is the time to level that playing field for our producers. We...
On that wider theme, what would the Minister say about the importation of foie gras? Would he be ...
My personal view is that people should not buy foie gras, because of the method of production. It...
I have just given way to the hon. Gentleman and he cannot really have two bites in the same sente...
I am sorry that I have not been in the Chamber for the whole debate, but I have been here for qui...
I think we need to do two things. I agree with the hon. Gentleman and I shall discuss the circums...
We all seem to be on the same side of the argument. Does the Minister agree that if we went for a...
The hon. Gentleman is right. We must be careful what we wish for because there are sometimes unfo...
Will the Minister give way?
I will now give way to the hon. Gentleman as he is persistent.
I thank the hon. Gentleman for giving way to me for the second time. My hon. Friend the Member fo...
No, I do not agree with the hon. Gentleman. Yes, he is right to read out that article. The legal ...
I would like to take the Minister back to the report he has received. He will be aware that the N...
I was just about to come to that. The hon. Gentleman raises an important matter. Nothing would ha...
We had similar protests at Brightlingsea when I was an MEP. At that time the port of Dover had cl...
As we have heard, Dover is no longer used. There may be more than one reason for that. I am not s...
I thank the Minister for all the work he is doing, but what he outlined before the intervention b...
The hon. Lady makes a very important point. The EU Commission itself notes that the level of enfo...
The Minister is doing an excellent job of setting out a complex set of arguments. He will recall ...
I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for raising that and this is probably an appropriate place to...
What about the hon. Member for Ogmore (Huw Irranca-Davies)?
I have mentioned the hon. Member for Ogmore many times and covered what he said almost word for w...
I thank the hon. Members for Poplar and Limehouse (Jim Fitzpatrick) and for Brighton, Pavilion (C...