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London Local Authorities and Transport for London (No. 2) Bill (HL)

Debate on bills on Tuesday, 6 March 2012, in the House of Commons, led by Bob Blackman. The answering member was Norman Baker.
London Local Authorities and Transport for London (No. 2) Bill (HL). Second reading debate. Agreed to on question and committed to a Public Bill Committee.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
541 c790-818 
Session
2010-12
Legislative stage
Second reading
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Related items
London Local Authorities and Transport for London (No 2) Bill (HL). Petition deposited by Sharpe Pritchard (Vote).
Tuesday, 27 November 2007
Bills
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Bob Blackman | 541 c790 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time. I am pleased to introduce the Bill to the H...
Christopher Chope | 541 c790 (Link to this contribution) I am sure we are all very sorry that my hon. Friend the Member for Mid Norfolk (George Freeman) is u...

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Bob Blackman | 541 c790 (Link to this contribution) Indeed, we will have a series of Bills; as with London buses, once we have enjoyed one, another will...
David Nuttall | 541 c790 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend refers to the other London local authorities Bill. Can he give the House a brief expl...
Bob Blackman | 541 c793 (Link to this contribution) The promoters agreed to introduce proposals in Committee to exempt theatres from the legislation so ...
Christopher Chope | 541 c793 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend has not mentioned the petition against the Bill that has been put forward by the Soci...
Bob Blackman | 541 c793-4 (Link to this contribution) One of the key concerns about damage to highways and footways across London from construction work i...
David Nuttall | 541 c793 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend refers to works traffic but will he confirm that clause 6 does not mention traffic? I...
Christopher Chope | 541 c794 (Link to this contribution) Surely what my hon. Friend says applies to skips anywhere in the country; it does not apply only to ...
Bob Blackman | 541 c790-1 (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend for that question and although I will not digress at this point, I shall expl...
Christopher Chope | 541 c791 (Link to this contribution) To go back to the sports bodies who were concerned about the Bill, am I right in recalling that the ...
Bob Blackman | 541 c791-2 (Link to this contribution) Not only premier league and first division football teams, but other sporting events throughout Lond...
Christopher Chope | 541 c792 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend have a draft of that agreement for Members of the House to look at?
Bob Blackman | 541 c792-3 (Link to this contribution) I understand that the Bill's promoters will submit that in Committee for the inspection of those who...
Christopher Chope | 541 c795 (Link to this contribution) Taking my hon. Friend's point, if there is a case for decriminalisation, surely the best way of proc...
Bob Blackman | 541 c795 (Link to this contribution) I am not one to criticise the police—far from it. The police do a wonderful job in this country. How...
Christopher Chope | 541 c795 (Link to this contribution) It is inherent in what my hon. Friend says that the police are able to deal perfectly adequately wit...
Bob Blackman | 541 c795 (Link to this contribution) To clarify, the position is that these are already offences in law. However, as things stand, there ...
Bob Blackman | 541 c794 (Link to this contribution) The key point, which is clear, is that that is a criminal offence and subject to enforcement by the ...
Stephen Pound | 541 c794 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman, who has a distinguished record in local government, will have seen the suggestio...
Bob Blackman | 541 c794 (Link to this contribution) May I answer the intervention from the hon. Member for Ealing North (Stephen Pound)? The key issue i...
David Nuttall | 541 c794-5 (Link to this contribution) Leaving aside the fact that I am disappointed not to hear how a skip might be immobilised —I was gen...
Bob Blackman | 541 c794 (Link to this contribution) I was about to come to the aspect of disabling a skip on the highway. It springs to mind that local ...
Philip Davies | 541 c810 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is very knowledgeable on these matters and he will know that on page 11 the Bill deal...
David Nuttall | 541 c810-1 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes an interesting intervention. Although it is not a widespread problem, I suspect...
David Nuttall | 541 c810 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a pertinent point. My constituency of Bury North—no doubt in common with his co...
Christopher Chope | 541 c812 (Link to this contribution) Can the Minister tell the House the approximate time scale within which he expects the Law Commissio...
Jim Fitzpatrick | 541 c811-2 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Bury North (Mr Nuttall), who has just completed a ver...
Norman Baker | 541 c812 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate the hon. Member for Poplar and Limehouse (Jim Fitzpatrick) on his succinct contributi...
David Nuttall | 541 c811 (Link to this contribution) It was a private Bill. Well, there we go. That Bill had not been passed when this one began life, wh...
Philip Davies | 541 c811 (Link to this contribution) I knew my hon. Friend was knowledgeable about these matters. I predicted that he would know more abo...
David Nuttall | 541 c811 (Link to this contribution) I have to say that the issue has never been raised at one of my surgeries, and it has obviously not ...
Norman Baker | 541 c812-3 (Link to this contribution) The Law Commission is currently holding an open consultation, to which the hon. Gentleman and others...
Philip Davies | 541 c813 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister set out why the Government are so much in support of the Bill, given that they are...
Norman Baker | 541 c813 (Link to this contribution) With respect, it is not the Government who are keeping Members here late this evening. May I thank ...
Christopher Chope | 541 c813-4 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to follow the Minister, who I am surprised was so brief, because this is an importa...
Jim Fitzpatrick | 541 c814 (Link to this contribution) I think that what I said was that we look forward to the Bill going into Committee so that we can lo...
Christopher Chope | 541 c814-6 (Link to this contribution) Okay. I hope that the hon. Gentleman has the privilege of serving on the Committee so that he can ge...
Christopher Chope | 541 c814 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps. That might be because the hon. Member for Poplar and Limehouse did not want to draw the Hou...
Jim Fitzpatrick | 541 c814 (Link to this contribution) In my very brief comments, I said, as I did in my intervention on the hon. Member for Harrow East (B...
Christopher Chope | 541 c814 (Link to this contribution) I am trying to interpret what the hon. Gentleman has said. I know that he is probably walking a prov...
Philip Davies | 541 c816 (Link to this contribution) While my hon. Friend is on the subject of skips, I am sure it has not escaped his notice that as the...
Christopher Chope | 541 c817-8 (Link to this contribution) I would normally refer my hon. Friend to the terms of the Bill, but he is right to say that there is...
Christopher Chope | 541 c816-7 (Link to this contribution) I do, and when my hon. Friend the Member for Bury North (Mr Nuttall) referred to the debate on Third...
Philip Davies | 541 c817 (Link to this contribution) I do not wish to pre-empt my hon. Friend's speech on Report, but the gated roads provision says that...
Bob Blackman | 541 c797-8 (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend for that intervention. Pedicabs are almost unique to the west end of London; ...
Christopher Chope | 541 c797 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend will know from looking at these petitions that as long ago as 2003, on the applicatio...
Bob Blackman | 541 c797 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Gentleman for his intervention. I think that a voluntary system of regulation is ne...
Jim Fitzpatrick | 541 c797 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is responding to a key question from my hon. Friend the Member for Ealing North (...
Bob Blackman | 541 c797 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Gentleman for his intervention. The reality, of course, is that this legislation is...
Stephen Pound | 541 c796-7 (Link to this contribution) Some of us consider these motorised rickshaws to be the greatest menace to public safety since Mr To...
Bob Blackman | 541 c795-6 (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend for the intervention. I have no objection to the Government coming forward wi...
Christopher Chope | 541 c798 (Link to this contribution) Following the point that my hon. Friend the Member for Ilford North (Mr Scott) made, does my hon. Fr...
Lee Scott | 541 c798 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that outside theatres, particularly when they are closing of an evening, w...
Bob Blackman | 541 c798 (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend for that intervention. The location of the electric charging points, which is...
John McDonnell | 541 c799-800 (Link to this contribution) There is unfair competition because pedicabs do not have to comply with the legislation that applies...
Lee Scott | 541 c799 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman agree that it is a deeper issue than whether pedicabs represent competition,...
John McDonnell | 541 c800-1 (Link to this contribution) That is exactly the point. Clause 17 is being removed from the Bill because it is not satisfactory. ...
Stephen Pound | 541 c800 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend has mentioned the view of the RMT, which I respect profoundly. The Licensed Taxi Driv...
John McDonnell | 541 c798-9 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate the hon. Member for Harrow East (Bob Blackman) on his succinct account of the Bill. H...
Bob Blackman | 541 c798 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is a great supporter of deregulation and of reducing the burden on business, but I ca...
John McDonnell | 541 c799 (Link to this contribution) It is. I have delayed the House on these Bills on even more occasions than the hon. Member for Harro...
Christopher Chope | 541 c801 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is making an interesting speech. Roughly how many pedicabs are there on the stree...
John McDonnell | 541 c801 (Link to this contribution) Apart from there being too many, as I heard one hon. Member say from a sedentary position, nobody kn...
David Nuttall | 541 c802 (Link to this contribution) That may well be so, but given that pedicabs have been operating for so many years—certainly for nin...
Stephen Pound | 541 c802 (Link to this contribution) May I open a window into the world of the London MP's surgery? We do get complaints about pedicabs. ...
David Nuttall | 541 c802 (Link to this contribution) I am sure it is, and I can understand that if I were a taxi driver I would be concerned about the ma...
John McDonnell | 541 c802 (Link to this contribution) The RMT is an expanding union, and Bob Crow is not averse to recruiting new members. However, there ...
David Nuttall | 541 c805 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend for that intervention. If it is in order, I will name the five noble...
David Nuttall | 541 c802-4 (Link to this contribution) I simply repeat the point I have made: if they are a menace in London, or indeed in Oxford, the matt...
Lee Scott | 541 c802 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend might find that there has been litigation against drivers when pedicabs have tipped o...
David Nuttall | 541 c801 (Link to this contribution) As always, it is a great pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Hayes and Harlington (John McDonnell...
Christopher Chope | 541 c807 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes an important point. If this Bill had not been objected to and had instead recei...
David Nuttall | 541 c806-7 (Link to this contribution) I have not yet reached the subject of gated roads, but it is probably possible to pick at random a p...
Christopher Chope | 541 c808 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend will have heard what our hon. Friend the Member for Harrow East (Bob Blackman) said a...
David Nuttall | 541 c807-8 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right. What has happened with this Bill gives the lie to the notion that these pro...
Christopher Chope | 541 c809 (Link to this contribution) Obviously we can hope that the members of the Opposed Bill Committee will, at the appropriate moment...
David Nuttall | 541 c808-9 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a welcome and interesting observation. It seems to me that the theatres are bei...
Philip Davies | 541 c810 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend talks about the merits or otherwise of this part of the Bill, but is not that slightl...
David Nuttall | 541 c809-10 (Link to this contribution) Yes. I hope that, when the time comes to consider the clause in Committee, some explanation for that...
Peter Bone | 541 c806 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is gracious in giving way. I draw his attention to clause 16 on gated roads, where we...
David Nuttall | 541 c805-6 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend says, ““Why not?”” from a sedentary position. I commend the Third Reading report to a...
Peter Bone | 541 c804 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend has made an interesting point about the number of Members in the Committee in the Lor...
Subjects
Greater London
Electric vehicles
Local government
Transport
Pedicabs
Charging points
Skips
Legislation
London Local Authorities and Transport for London (No. 2) Bill (HL) 2007-08 to 2013-14
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