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Localism Bill

Debate on bills on Wednesday, 12 October 2011, in the House of Lords.
Localism Bill. Lords report stage sixth day.
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Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
730 c1743-96, 1808-24 
Session
2010-12
Legislative stage
Report stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Localism Bill. As amended in Committee. (Lords Minutes).
Wednesday, 20 July 2011
Bills
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Baroness Hanham | 730 c1773 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I think I am right in saying that there was a legal challenge that required these environm...
Lord Judd | 730 c1813-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, passion perhaps not, but I know that my noble friend's commitment is outstanding on these ...

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Baroness Hanham | 730 c1795-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it has had a slightly longer shrift than I thought it would. I think this amendment was sl...
Baroness Smith of Basildon | 730 c1796 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Baroness as I think she has understood what we were seeking to do—to get ...
Baroness Young of Old Scone | 730 c1793-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I underline what the noble Lord has just said, particularly in terms of the requirement to...
Lord Reay | 730 c1794-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as this is my first intervention at this stage of the Bill, I declare my interest as a lan...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 730 c1811-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we have Amendment 204D in this group, and we have added our name to the amendment moved by...
Lord Marlesford | 730 c1808-11 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my Amendment 204C relates to the central issue of the Bill—the purpose of the planning sys...
Baroness Hanham | 730 c1824 (Link to this contribution) 204E: Clause 100, page 78, line 38, at end insert— ““(7AA) Subsection (7B) applies where the person ...
Lord Marlesford | 730 c1823-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, first, I thank everybody who took part in the debate and I hope and think that it was a us...
Baroness Gardner of Parkes | 730 c1819-20 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have listened to the debate and this is a very interesting amendment. I am speaking now ...
Bishop of Wakefield | 730 c1817-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, support the amendment in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Marlesford. I am warmed ...
Baroness Hanham | 730 c1821-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am just about to cancel tomorrow’s debate—if it were in my hands, I probably would—becau...
Lord Lucas | 730 c1820-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my noble friend Lady Gardner should discount any figures that she heard at that meeting th...
Lord Deben | 730 c1814-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I was for 30 years a Member of Parliament for a country constituency, and for part of that...
Lord Lucas | 730 c1754 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I find myself very much siding with the noble Lord, Lord Howarth, on this. Sustainable dev...
Lord Berkeley | 730 c1753-4 (Link to this contribution) I have some worries about the whole concept. Many noble Lords have talked about what should and shou...
Baroness Hamwee | 730 c1753 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps it is a little impertinent of me to deny a compliment that has just been given by ...
Lord Howarth of Newport | 730 c1751-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, not having participated in proceedings on this Bill hitherto, I hope that the House will n...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 730 c1755-7 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, for moving this amendment. We have added our names to it and g...
Lord Lucas | 730 c1754-5 (Link to this contribution) That is a nice illustration. There are bits of wording; as my noble friend Lord Deben said, if we ar...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 730 c1754 (Link to this contribution) An illustration of what my noble friend is talking about is that it is a developer who builds a new ...
Lord Cormack | 730 c1750-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Baroness raises some extremely important points, wearing as she does proudly and...
Baroness Parminter | 730 c1751 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as someone who passionately believes in the potential of planning to deliver sustainable d...
Baroness Andrews | 730 c1749-50 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, there is much that the noble Lord has said with which I agree. I must put on my English He...
Lord Greaves | 730 c1743 (Link to this contribution) 203K: Before Clause 97, insert the following new Clause— ““Duty to promote sustainable development (...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 730 c1746-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I agree with almost everything that my noble friend has said about the desirability of pro...
Lord Greaves | 730 c1744-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we return to the Localism Bill and have reached Part 5, which is about the substantial cha...
Lord Deben | 730 c1748-9 (Link to this contribution) I do not think that anyone would accuse me of not being committed to sustainable development. Indeed...
Bishop of Wakefield | 730 c1747-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, rise to speak in favour of the amendment put down by the noble Lord, Lord Greaves....
Lord Greaves | 730 c1761 (Link to this contribution) Well, ever since my noble friend conducted it, if that is the verb that comes from conduit, I am not...
Lord Deben | 730 c1760 (Link to this contribution) What I said was that that was the first time it was mentioned by a Prime Minister. It was well aroun...
Lord Greaves | 730 c1760 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful for that extremely helpful reply from my noble friend the Minister. I am par...
Baroness Hanham | 730 c1757-60 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in the daily horoscopes sometimes I am a Virgo and sometimes a Librarian. Today I shall be...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 730 c1762 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord has accused the Government of trying to sneak through the framework document because ...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 730 c1763 (Link to this contribution) Yes, I did. The point I was making was that the document came at the start of the recess and not eve...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 730 c1761-2 (Link to this contribution) 203L: Before Clause 97, insert the following new Clause— ““National Planning Policy Framework (1) Th...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 730 c1762 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the purpose of this amendment is to impose a duty on the Secretary of State to produce and...
Lord Berkeley | 730 c1763 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I would like to ask the Minister a simple question. Under the Planning Act 2008, the natio...
Baroness Hanham | 730 c1763-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, there could have been no doubt that the draft of the NPPF was coming out: we have had seve...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 730 c1765-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for that reply. Parts of it, I am bound to say, I thought were a litt...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 730 c1766 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, an argument could be mounted to that effect. I prayed in aid my absence from those debates...
Lord Greaves | 730 c1766 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I cannot avoid teasing the noble Lord, and I hope he will answer this question. The nation...
Baroness Hanham | 730 c1769 (Link to this contribution) 203M: Clause 97, page 75, line 7, after ““sections”” insert ““70(5),””
Lord Beecham | 730 c1770-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I was taken with the Minister’s venture into the area of astrology earlier. However, I thi...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 730 c1771 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, like my noble friend I was puzzled by this group of amendments, and I hope the Minister ca...
Baroness Andrews | 730 c1771 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I can buy the Minister some time while she looks at her notes by asking another question abo...
Baroness Hanham | 730 c1771-2 (Link to this contribution) In reply to the noble Baroness’s question, the noble Lord, Lord Best, has an amendment on transition...
Lord Beecham | 730 c1772 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate the Minister on her anticipation. Am I right in thinking therefore that although an e...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 730 c1773 (Link to this contribution) I will not press the Minister again but, given what I think is a quite significant development, coul...
Baroness Hanham | 730 c1773 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the national planning policy framework is being consulted upon and, once it is an approved...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 730 c1773 (Link to this contribution) If the noble Baroness would forgive me, I am trying to understand the status of the NPPF in the inte...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 730 c1772 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry to ask the Minister again, but I think it is important we get to the bottom of this. Can ...
Baroness Hanham | 730 c1772 (Link to this contribution) I did not say that. I said that they will be put forward as soon as possible after Royal Assent. The...
Baroness Hanham | 730 c1774 (Link to this contribution) 203Q: Clause 97, page 75, line 15, leave out subsections (3) and (4) and insert— ““(3) The Secretary...
Baroness D'Souza | 730 c1774 (Link to this contribution) I must advise your Lordships that if 203Q is agreed to, then I cannot call Amendment 203R by reasons...
Baroness Hanham | 730 c1773 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry that I have not succeeded in convincing the noble Lord but, yes, of course we are happy t...
Baroness Hanham | 730 c1773 (Link to this contribution) 203N: Clause 97, page 75, line 7, after ““82(1)”” insert ““and (2)”” 203P: Clause 97, page 75, lin...
Lord Newton of Braintree | 730 c1777 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I congratulate my noble friend on showing signs of becoming the second free radical on the...
Lord Deben | 730 c1776-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have great sympathy with what the noble Baroness has put forward. However, we should be ...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 730 c1777-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my noble friend Lady Young’s amendments are entirely reasonable and I see the thrust of th...
Lord Greaves | 730 c1777 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my noble friend has missed a little of the discussion this afternoon. I have to confess th...
Baroness Hanham | 730 c1774 (Link to this contribution) 203S: Schedule 8, page 315, line 36, leave out ““omit paragraph (a)”” and insert ““in paragraph (a) ...
Baroness Hanham | 730 c1778 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, am guilty of the terrible solecism of not referring to the noble Lord as Lord Debe...
Lord Deben | 730 c1778 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps my noble friend will allow me to say that one remembers the name when one remembers that Suf...
Baroness Hanham | 730 c1778-80 (Link to this contribution) Well, I did not make the point that it was flat. Never mind, we shall get around that. I must say a...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 730 c1781-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in moving Amendment 204A, I shall speak also to Amendment 204G. These amendments focus on ...
Lord Beecham | 730 c1782-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I congratulate my noble friend on tabling these amendments, which deal with one of the mos...
Baroness Young of Old Scone | 730 c1780-1 (Link to this contribution) I would like to thank the Minister for her words, and to thank the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, for his...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 730 c1781 (Link to this contribution) 204A: Clause 99, page 77, line 35, leave out subsection (2) and insert— ““(3) The scheme must contai...
Lord Boswell of Aynho | 730 c1784-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have not spoken previously on the Localism Bill, nor would I claim any particular expert...
Lord Newton of Braintree | 730 c1785-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, being from Essex, albeit from Braintree and not Basildon, I am a bit hesitant, as my noble...
Lord Williamson of Horton | 730 c1783-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am sympathetic to this amendment, an amendment directed to the essential issue of having...
Baroness Whitaker | 730 c1784 (Link to this contribution) In supporting Amendment 204A for all the reasons powerfully set out by the three previous speakers, ...
Baroness Hanham | 730 c1787-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank noble Lords for their contributions. As one would expect, it ended up with a wider...
Lord Greaves | 730 c1786-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, if I understand it correctly, the purpose of these amendments is to make sure that a prope...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 730 c1789 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry—over four years. However, even 150,000 a year is less than what the previous Government a...
Lord Greaves | 730 c1789 (Link to this contribution) I wonder if there is confusion here between housing starts and affordable housing starts.
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 730 c1789 (Link to this contribution) Indeed, the noble Lord is absolutely right. However, I understand that the mechanism to achieve affo...
Lord Greaves | 730 c1789 (Link to this contribution) If the NPPF had only to ““have regard to””, people might be less concerned about it. Is it not the c...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 730 c1789-90 (Link to this contribution) That may be the case up to a point. How that works in practice remains to be tested, particularly gi...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 730 c1788 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for her response, although I do not agree with some of what ...
Baroness Gardner of Parkes | 730 c1790 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry; I just wanted to raise the issue of Parker Morris standards, which I think I can do as t...
Lord Lucas | 730 c1793 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, notwithstanding my noble friend’s strictures, I think that this is a daffy amendment due t...
Lord Judd | 730 c1793 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my regard for the noble Lord, Lord Deben, and his commitment on climate change is second t...
Baroness Smith of Basildon | 730 c1791-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am sure that the Minister has noticed that the amendments in this group are the same as ...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 730 c1791 (Link to this contribution) Indeed. I am certainly aware of the challenges that that produced but I hang on to the point that it...
Baroness Smith of Basildon | 730 c1791 (Link to this contribution) 204B: After Clause 99, insert the following new Clause— ““Development plan documents: climate change...
Baroness Gardner of Parkes | 730 c1790-1 (Link to this contribution) I am told that I am not out of order and that I can therefore ask the noble Lord a question. Is he a...
Earl Attlee | 730 c1790 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I regret that no one can speak after the Minister.
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 730 c1812-3 (Link to this contribution) I am advised that it was Lewis Silkin. We have some historical perspective on our side as well. I wo...
Lord Marlesford | 730 c1808 (Link to this contribution) 204C: Clause 100, page 78, line 25, at end insert— ““(ai) that the document has had due regard to pr...
Baroness Young of Old Scone | 730 c1774-6 (Link to this contribution) This amendment and those in the group tabled by my noble friend Lord Whitty and myself relate to the...
Baroness Young of Old Scone | 730 c1774 (Link to this contribution) 203U: Clause 98, page 75, line 33, leave out ““maximising”” and insert ““relation to the planning of...
Baroness Gardner of Parkes | 730 c1790 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I was very involved in housing when Parker Morris standards were still used—
Lord Deben | 730 c1792-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, there is an issue here with which I hope the Minister will be very careful. Local authorit...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 730 c1790 (Link to this contribution) I should be very interested to learn what the noble Baroness wanted to say about Parker Morris stand...
Baroness Hanham | 730 c1769-70 (Link to this contribution) The Bill currently provides for the revocation of the eight existing regional strategies outside Lon...
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