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Public Bodies Bill [HL]

Public Bodies Bill (HL). Lords committee stage eighth day. Schedule 1 : Power to abolish: bodies and offices, debated and agreed to. Clause 2: Power to merge: bodies and offices, agreed to as amended. Schedule 2 agreed to. Clause 3: Power to modify constitutional arrangements: bodies and offices, agreed to as amended. Schedule 3 agreed to as amended. Clause 4: Power to modify funding arrangements: bodies and offices, agreed to as amended. Schedule 4 under consideration when House adjourned.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
725 c1363-429, c1448-510 
Session
2010-12
Department
Cabinet Office
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Proceeding contributions
Lord McNally | 725 c1398 (Link to this contribution) The Youth Justice Board has at its disposal about £500 million a year, most of which is spent in pro...
Lord Elton | 725 c1399 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not know whether the noble Lord, Lord Warner, will be minded to make up his mind at t...

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Lord McNally | 725 c1399-400 (Link to this contribution) That is the second intervention that has reminded me what a bird of passage is ministerial office, f...
Earl of Listowel | 725 c1400 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful that the Minister has undertaken to take the concerns of the whole House back to his c...
Lord McNally | 725 c1400 (Link to this contribution) I shall certainly take that back. Part of the problem with the two issues that the noble Earl raises...
Lord Warner | 725 c1400-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to all those who have spoken in this debate, especially the noble Lord, Lord...
Lord Whitty | 725 c1402 (Link to this contribution) 65: Clause 2, page 1, line 14, after ““may”” insert ““subject to the requirements of section 8””
Lord McNally | 725 c1398 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord gives me the opinion of the youth offender teams. It is always a bit dubious when nob...
Viscount Eccles | 725 c1398 (Link to this contribution) There has been no mention of money or expenditure, which is not what this House has come to expect w...
Lord Elton | 725 c1398 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord said that not enough attention was paid to the youth offender teams. I specifically a...
Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 725 c1389-90 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I did not intend to speak in this debate, but in listening to the speeches, I could almost...
Lord Newton of Braintree | 725 c1390-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, those of your Lordships who were in the Chamber about an hour and a quarter ago when I was...
Baroness Linklater of Butterstone | 725 c1385-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as is clear, there is widespread concern around this House about the Government's plan for...
Lord Elton | 725 c1387-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, so much that needs answering is building up around my noble friend on the Front Bench like...
Lord McNally | 725 c1394-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble and learned Baroness sees an open goal when there is one before her, but she has...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 725 c1391-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall, at what looks like being the end of this debate, be very brief. I, too, am a huge...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 725 c1392-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, on behalf of Her Majesty's loyal Opposition I give my wholehearted support to the amendmen...
Viscount Eccles | 725 c1385 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I cannot resist following the noble Lord, Lord Beecham, as he used the word ““bureaucracy”...
Earl of Clancarty | 725 c1424-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I congratulate the noble Lord, Lord Stevenson, on tabling Amendment 65A, which I support, ...
Lord Wills | 725 c1416-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in rising to support the amendments that my noble friend Lord Stevenson has so eloquently ...
Lord Triesman | 725 c1419-20 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I add my support to the amendment of my noble friend Lord Stevenson and join him in congra...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 725 c1411 (Link to this contribution) A requirement under our amendments will be that the explanatory documents are properly reasoned and ...
Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 725 c1412 (Link to this contribution) 65A: After Clause 2, insert the following new Clause— ““Report on the merger of the UK Film Council ...
Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 725 c1412-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Bill deals with the questions of whether certain functions undertaken by government sh...
Lord Maclennan of Rogart | 725 c1411 (Link to this contribution) Before my noble friend sits down, will he briefly animadvert on the nature of the explanatory docume...
Lord Newton of Braintree | 725 c1409 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope that I might, without abusing the rules of Committee stage, make a brief further in...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 725 c1409-11 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Lord, Lord Whitty, for initiating this debate with his amendments as it is agreeab...
Lord Rosser | 725 c1407-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, hope that the Minister will welcome this group of amendments. As my noble friend L...
Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 725 c1406-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as predicted, I support these amendments. Amendments 65, 69, 77, 85 and 101 in this groupi...
Baroness Turner of Camden | 725 c1405-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support my noble friend. I spent part of my previous career sitting on various quangos, ...
Lord Newton of Braintree | 725 c1406 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am not sure I have any brownie points left in the bank after various earlier exchanges b...
Lord Whitty | 725 c1402-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I beg to move Amendment 65 and to speak to the associated amendments. My noble friend Lord...
Lord Judd | 725 c1425 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have a brief observation to make. We heard a very enthusiastic speech from the Prime Min...
Earl Cathcart | 725 c1425-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I was not going to speak in this debate, but two things strike me. Here, I ought to declar...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 725 c1449-50 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Lord for moving this amendment. He very effectively described the functions of bot...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 725 c1449 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I think my noble friend has said it all. I am grateful to him for raising the proposed mer...
Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 725 c1451 (Link to this contribution) 66A: Schedule 2, page 18, leave out lines 9 to 11
Lord Whitty | 725 c1450-1 (Link to this contribution) Well, my Lords, that was a bit thin. The Government are keeping the functions of the two organisatio...
Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 725 c1428-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for her response. In some senses, this debate has proved to be exactl...
Baroness Rawlings | 725 c1426-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this has been a fascinating debate with, as is so often the case in your Lordships’ House,...
Lord Whitty | 725 c1448-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this is genuinely a probing amendment, and I shall not spend a lot of time on it. I suppos...
Lord Whitty | 725 c1448 (Link to this contribution) 66: Schedule 2, page 18, leave out lines 6 to 8
Baroness Thornton | 725 c1452-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, 72 per cent of the population gambled in the past year, so it is important that we get the...
Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 725 c1451-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, will be brief. In moving Amendment 66A, I do not oppose the Government’s decision ...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 725 c1455-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble Lord for this opportunity. We are making progress in a direction with wh...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 725 c1455 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this debate relates to the order-making power given to Ministers in relation to the consti...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 725 c1454-5 (Link to this contribution) 68: Clause 3, page 2, line 11, at beginning insert ““Subject to section (Restrictions on ministerial...
Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 725 c1454 (Link to this contribution) I beg leave to withdraw the amendment, but look forward to hearing from the Minister in due course. ...
Baroness Rawlings | 725 c1454 (Link to this contribution) I will of course write to the noble Lord. I apologise for not giving him the information earlier.
Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 725 c1454 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I made it clear in my opening sentence that the purpose of tabling the amendment was not t...
Baroness Rawlings | 725 c1453-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment 66A moved by the noble Lord, Lord Faulkner, would remove the Gambling Commission...
Lord Judd | 725 c1458 (Link to this contribution) 70: Schedule 3, page 18, line 21, leave out ““Broads Authority.””
Lord Judd | 725 c1459 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am not quite sure what has happened to the noble Lord, Lord Greaves. I hope that nothing...
Lord Maclennan of Rogart | 725 c1461-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my noble friend Lord Greaves, from his bed of sickness, asked me to intervene in this deba...
Lord Judd | 725 c1459-61 (Link to this contribution) In the noble Lord’s absence, I beg leave to move this amendment and to speak to its group. I should ...
Lord Berkeley | 725 c1463-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is interesting to follow the noble Lord, Lord Deben. My interest is in the Norfolk Broa...
Lord Deben | 725 c1462-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope very much that we maintain the more than 9 per cent of the country which is so prot...
Baroness Quin | 725 c1465-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Public Bodies Bill contains many important bodies but it is somewhat frustrating to ha...
Lord Cameron of Dillington | 725 c1464-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, like many noble Lords, I have a great love for and affinity to our national parks. In my c...
Lord Henley | 725 c1467-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will speak to Amendment 70 and all the amendments that go with it, and obviously address...
Lord Henley | 725 c1468-9 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord said that the e-mail was dated 29 November. That is some months ago. My assurance is ...
Lord Judd | 725 c1469-70 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, first, I thank everyone who has participated in this very interesting debate, not least th...
Lord Berkeley | 725 c1468 (Link to this contribution) I shall quote from an e-mail from the chief executive of the Broads Authority dated 29 November, whi...
Lord Inglewood | 725 c1471 (Link to this contribution) 70A: Schedule 3, page 18, line 21, at end insert— ““Church Commissioners.””
Lord Judd | 725 c1470-1 (Link to this contribution) Those are encouraging words indeed from the Minister. Indeed, his noble friend, who has been leading...
Lord Henley | 725 c1470 (Link to this contribution) It might assist the noble Lord if I remind him of the timing of this Bill. I do not think that we wi...
Lord Inglewood | 725 c1471-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this probing amendment is specifically triggered by the announcement last autumn from the ...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 725 c1479 (Link to this contribution) I hope that the noble Lord will not think that what I am about to say is in any way discourteous, bu...
Lord Howarth of Newport | 725 c1476-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Inglewood, and his noble co-signatories for tabling ...
Bishop of Leicester | 725 c1479-82 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I must present to the Committee the apologies of the right reverend prelate the Bishop of ...
Lord Howarth of Newport | 725 c1479 (Link to this contribution) I feel deeply advised by the noble Lord, Lord Lester. I was at the point of concluding and I appreci...
Lord Boswell of Aynho | 725 c1475-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, have appended my name to the amendment. I commend my noble friend Lord Inglewood f...
Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 725 c1473-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support Amendment 70A, to which I have added my name. The Committee should be greatly in...
Lord Foster of Bishop Auckland | 725 c1482-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the amendment and I am very grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Inglewood, for the ...
Lord Deben | 725 c1483 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall not keep your Lordships' House long but I want to make a further point. The Church...
Bishop of Leicester | 725 c1483-4 (Link to this contribution) Will the noble Lord agree with me that the argument I have been adducing is that the Church Commissi...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 725 c1486 (Link to this contribution) I am a Jewish atheist and, therefore, have no special interest, but I regard what the right reverend...
Lord Deben | 725 c1486 (Link to this contribution) I promise not to hold your Lordships' House any longer, so I shall reply specifically to that. If I ...
Bishop of Leicester | 725 c1485-6 (Link to this contribution) I wonder whether the noble Lord can help me with the criticism that he seems to be levelling at the ...
Lord Deben | 725 c1485 (Link to this contribution) I shall give way to the right reverend Prelate but I shall just finish this one point. The Church of...
Lord Deben | 725 c1484-5 (Link to this contribution) The right reverend Prelate is making a judgment that I am suggesting is in fact, on this occasion—pr...
Bishop of Chester | 725 c1488-9 (Link to this contribution) I know that the hour is late and I shall make only a few brief comments to put certain things on the...
Viscount Eccles | 725 c1487-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not want to detain the House for a long time and I shall not. My noble friend Lord De...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 725 c1489-90 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have enjoyed listening to the debate, but I share some of the noble Baroness’s observati...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 725 c1489 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise for two minutes. I was going to say that this was going to be an interesting discus...
Baroness Thornton | 725 c1491 (Link to this contribution) 71: Schedule 3, page 18, line 22, leave out ““Commission for Equality and Human Rights.””
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 725 c1493-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, have put my name to this amendment and the others in the group. As the noble Baron...
Baroness Thornton | 725 c1491-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in speaking to Amendment 71, I shall speak also to Amendments 88 and 138 and give my suppo...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 725 c1496-7 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Baroness for tabling these amendments and for the productive meeting that we had e...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 725 c1495-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, most things have already been said but perhaps I may say that, for the moment, I support t...
Baroness Thornton | 725 c1497 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for that reply and thank the noble Lords, Lord Lester and Lord Boswell, and my ...
Lord Maclennan of Rogart | 725 c1497 (Link to this contribution) 72: Schedule 3, page 18, line 24, leave out ““Internal drainage boards.””
Lord Maclennan of Rogart | 725 c1497-8 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move the amendment standing in the name of my noble friend Lord Greaves, who for reasons of...
Lord Henley | 725 c1500-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I might have to spend a few minutes on this but I hope I can satisfy most of the points th...
Baroness Quin | 725 c1499-500 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, a number of important questions have been raised in this short debate and I am grateful fo...
Lord Cameron of Dillington | 725 c1498-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support these amendments. When I spoke at various stages of the Flood and Water Manageme...
Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 725 c1498 (Link to this contribution) I must advise the Committee that if this amendment is agreed to, I shall not be able to call Amendme...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 725 c1503 (Link to this contribution) 72A: Schedule 3, page 18, line 24, at end insert ““for areas wholly or mainly in England”” Amendmen...
Lord Maclennan of Rogart | 725 c1502 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am extremely grateful to my noble friend for his full response to the debate which has g...
Lord Henley | 725 c1502 (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful for that ““Hear, hear”” from the Cross Benches. For the reasons I have explained,...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 725 c1503 (Link to this contribution) 73: Schedule 3, page 18, line 25, leave out ““Joint Nature Conservation Committee.””
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 725 c1508-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this amendment is on the Marshalled List in the name of my noble friend Lord Whitty. We li...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 725 c1510 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am most grateful to the noble Baroness and of course I shall not press my amendment to a...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 725 c1503 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise to move Amendment 73 in the name of my noble friend Lord Whitty and speak to his Am...
Lord Cameron of Dillington | 725 c1503-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I wish to speak to the amendment on the Joint Nature Conservation Committee. I first decla...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 725 c1507 (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Henley, for his comprehensive response to the amendments ...
Lord Henley | 725 c1508 (Link to this contribution) 74A: Schedule 3, page 18, line 26, at end insert ““in England”” Amendment 74A agreed. Amendments 7...
Baroness Quin | 725 c1504-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank my noble friend Lord Hunt for moving or speaking to the amendments that highlight ...
Lord Henley | 725 c1505-7 (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness suggested that what we are dealing with are rather minor changes. I can assure he...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 725 c1508 (Link to this contribution) 79A: Schedule 4, page 19, line 4, leave out from beginning to ““under”” and insert ““Inspectors appo...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 725 c1508 (Link to this contribution) 82: Schedule 4, page 19, line 8, leave out ““Office of Communications (““Ofcom””).””
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 725 c1508 (Link to this contribution) 76: Clause 4, page 2, line 39, at beginning insert ““Subject to section (Restrictions on ministerial...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 725 c1508 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord, Lord Taylor, responded to the question that we raised about Clause 4 when we debated...
Lord Boswell of Aynho | 725 c1494-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is indeed a very late hour, and I rise only briefly to thank the noble Baroness, Lady T...
Lord Newton of Braintree | 725 c1371 (Link to this contribution) Before the noble Lord, Lord Bach, withdraws his amendment, I shall express my frustration that the a...
Lord Bach | 725 c1371-2 (Link to this contribution) I thank all those who have spoken in this debate. The Minister has clearly persuaded at least one me...
Lord McNally | 725 c1372 (Link to this contribution) On the point about the thinking behind this, I note that a year before the Victims’ Commissioner too...
Lord Clinton-Davis | 725 c1369 (Link to this contribution) Did the coalition give any indication in the election that they were going to abolish the panel? Wha...
Lord McNally | 725 c1370 (Link to this contribution) Absolutely on cue. That was the situation. I am not claiming that the £50,000 being saved by abolish...
Lord McNally | 725 c1370-1 (Link to this contribution) I will not say anything about the noble Lord and his dedication to reading election manifestos in de...
Lord Clinton-Davis | 725 c1370 (Link to this contribution) I can tell the noble Lord that there was no such commitment in either case.
Lord Beecham | 725 c1383-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I declare an interest as a member of an advisory group to the Prison Reform Trust, which b...
Lord Warner | 725 c1373-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is appropriate that we move from discussing victims to discussing the Youth Justice Boa...
Lord Warner | 725 c1373 (Link to this contribution) 63: Schedule 1, page 17, line 26, leave out ““Youth Justice Board for England and Wales.””
Lord Bach | 725 c1372-3 (Link to this contribution) The Committee will be grateful to the Minister for mentioning that point, but it does not take away ...
Earl of Listowel | 725 c1381-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the amendment moved by the noble Lord, Lord Warner, and supported by my noble fr...
Lord Dholakia | 725 c1380-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am delighted to speak to this amendment in the names of the noble Lords, Lord Warner and...
Baroness Butler-Sloss | 725 c1380 (Link to this contribution) I support many of the coalition Government’s initiatives on criminal justice, which makes it absolut...
Lord Ramsbotham | 725 c1376-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Taylor, and the noble Lord, Lord McNally, for the time, care ...
Lord Greenway | 725 c1365 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I admire the tenacity of the noble Lord, Lord Berkeley, on this matter which, as the Minis...
Lord Berkeley | 725 c1363-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendments 67A, 88A, 139A and 165A. This is a group of probing amend...
Lord Newton of Braintree | 725 c1364 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I spoke in an earlier fascinating debate on the Irish lights and other matters in this fie...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 725 c1364-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the House is grateful to my noble friend for raising this matter yet again. As he rightly ...
Lord Bach | 725 c1368-9 (Link to this contribution) I have played a very limited part in this Bill so far, so I hope that the Committee will forgive me ...
Lord McNally | 725 c1369 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful for the questions asked by the noble Lord, Lord Bach, about the Victims’ Adv...
Lord Berkeley | 725 c1367 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Lord for that explanation, which gives me great comfort. I beg leave to withdraw t...
Lord Bach | 725 c1367 (Link to this contribution) 62: Schedule 1, page 17, line 25, leave out ““Victims’ Advisory Panel.””
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 725 c1367 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Lord for his ingenuity in this respect. He should know that I have added my name t...
Lord Berkeley | 725 c1367 (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful to the noble Lord. Before I withdraw the amendment, perhaps I may invite him to c...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 725 c1366-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this has been a useful debate—I am sure that the noble Lord, Lord Berkeley, believes that ...
Lord MacKenzie of Culkein | 725 c1365-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I also pay tribute to my noble friend Lord Berkeley for raising this matter again. As the ...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 725 c1402 (Link to this contribution) 64: Clause 2, page 1, line 14, at beginning insert ““Subject to section (Restrictions on ministerial...
Baroness Benjamin | 725 c1422-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, support Amendment 65A, particularly subsections (1)(d), (2)(c) and (2)(d). I decla...
Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall | 725 c1421-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I add my support to the amendment moved by my noble friend Lord Stevenson. I do so as some...
Lord Whitty | 725 c1411-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful for the Minister’s reply. Indeed, at one point he used the word ““agreeable”...
Lord Borrie | 725 c1407 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it has been a long time since we last discussed these matters in Committee. Perhaps I may ...
Lord Henley | 725 c1459 (Link to this contribution) I assure the noble Lord that the hard men have done nothing. All I am advised is that he is ill.
Baroness Rawlings | 725 c1509-10 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Ofcom is a highly respected organisation that, since its creation by the Office of Communi...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 725 c1458 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Taylor, for a full response to the issues raised. He went a v...
Lord Deben | 725 c1486-7 (Link to this contribution) I say to my noble friend that I have never claimed that bishops should live in these palaces. I do n...
Lord Inglewood | 725 c1490-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have taken part in this debate. I must say that when I moved t...
Lord McNally | 725 c1369-70 (Link to this contribution) One of my weaknesses as a politician is that I am never expert on the specific pledges made in elect...
Lord Berkeley | 725 c1363 (Link to this contribution) 60A: Schedule 1, page 17, line 23, at end insert— ““The Trinity House.””
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