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Marine and Coastal Access Bill [HL]

Debate on bills on Tuesday, 5 May 2009, in the House of Lords.
Marine and Coastal Access Bill (HL). Lords Report stage first day.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
710 c443-509,523-40 
Session
2008-09
Legislative stage
Report stage
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Marine and Coastal Access Bill. As amended in Committee.
Tuesday, 21 April 2009
Bills
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 710 c475-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, let me answer the noble Lord’s points in order. I confirm that he is right that the powers...
Lord Greenway | 710 c477 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in speaking briefly to the amendments, I should declare an interest as chairman of the Wor...

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Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 710 c472-4 (Link to this contribution) Not at all, my Lords. I am very glad that the Government are able to bring forward amendments on an...
Baroness Hooper | 710 c472 (Link to this contribution) I apologise, my Lords. I was far too impetuous.
Lord Howarth of Newport | 710 c475 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the amendments that the Government have tabled, and the assurances that the Minister has j...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 710 c474-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I apologise to the Minister for being so keen to rise to support the amendments, as many n...
Lord Bridges | 710 c469-71 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment 19 incorporates the care of archaeological articles found on the seabed among th...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 710 c472 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I wonder whether it might be useful if I spoke now to the government amendments and respon...
Baroness Hooper | 710 c471-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I believe that I have no relevant interests to declare, but—just in case—I am a member of ...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 710 c468-9 (Link to this contribution) Amendments 13 to 18 13: Clause 2, page 2, line 13, leave out subsection (2) 14: Clause 2, page 2,...
Lord Bridges | 710 c469 (Link to this contribution) Clause 3: Performance Amendment 19 19: Clause 3, page 2, line 40, at end insert— "( ) These object...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 710 c467 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, and the noble Baroness, Lady Miller, for al...
Lord Greaves | 710 c468 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful for some of the things the Minister said and his commitments about how coast...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 710 c466 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, makes an understandable point by moving this amendment and t...
Lord Greaves | 710 c465-6 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 12 picks up on a point that we discussed in Committee which was not very satisfactorily re...
Lord Greaves | 710 c465 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 12 12: Clause 2, page 2, line 12, at end insert— "( ) In pursuit of its general objective...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 710 c464-5 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 9 9: Clause 2, page 2, line 12, at end insert— "(1B) For the purposes of subsection (1)(b...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 710 c464 (Link to this contribution) Amendments 7 and 8 7: Clause 2, page 2, line 7, leave out paragraphs (a) and (b) and insert— "(a) w...
Duke of Montrose | 710 c484 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for his reply. He did at least from the Dispatch Box say exactly what...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 710 c481 (Link to this contribution) Clause 9: Licences to kill or take seals Amendments 27 and 28 27: Clause 9, page 5, line 31, after...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 710 c481 (Link to this contribution) Clause 12: Certain consents under section 36 of the Electricity Act 1989 Amendments 30 to 32 30: C...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 710 c481 (Link to this contribution) Clause 10: Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 Amendment 29 29: Clause 10, page 6, line 11, after "d...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 710 c482 (Link to this contribution) Clause 14: Agreements between the Secretary of State and the MMO Amendments 35 to 37 35: Clause 14...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 710 c482 (Link to this contribution) Clause 13: Safety zones: functions under section 95 of the Energy Act 2004 Amendments 33 and 34 33...
Duke of Montrose | 710 c482-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment 38 is in the name of my noble friend Lord Taylor of Holbeach. I am consciously r...
Duke of Montrose | 710 c482 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 38 38: Clause 14, page 9, line 2, at end insert— "( ) A function which the Secretary of S...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 710 c483-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Duke, the Duke of Montrose, for moving this amendment, which he...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 710 c483 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this is the first occasion on which I have spoken at this stage of the proceedings, so I d...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 710 c480 (Link to this contribution) Clause 6: Trans-shipment licences for vessels Amendments 24 and 25 24: Clause 6, page 4, line 10, ...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 710 c481 (Link to this contribution) Clause 7: Regulations supplementary to sections 4 and 4A Amendment 26 26: Clause 7, page 4, line 3...
Duke of Montrose | 710 c478 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the amendments to Clause 4 envisage a high degree of flexibility in the licensing of fishi...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 710 c477-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in moving Amendment 20, I shall speak to several other amendments in the group. Noble Lord...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 710 c477 (Link to this contribution) Clause 4: Licensing of fishing boats Amendment 20 20: Clause 4, page 3, line 8, leave out subsecti...
Lord Bridges | 710 c477 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for his interesting remarks and for the sympathetic attitude that he ...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 710 c479-80 (Link to this contribution) Amendments 21 to 23 21: Clause 4, page 3, leave out lines 14 and 15 and insert— "(2) In subsection ...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 710 c479 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that is a very good question, on which, alas, the noble Duke has found me short. Because ...
Lord Greaves | 710 c443 (Link to this contribution) Schedule 1: The Marine Management Organisation Amendment 1 1: Schedule 1, page 214, line 8, at end...
Earl Cathcart | 710 c445 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I should declare that I have been a local councillor for more than 10 years and a member o...
Lord Greaves | 710 c443-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall start off the Report stage of this Bill by moving Amendment 1 and speaking to Amen...
Lord Greaves | 710 c446 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that seems like an offer I cannot refuse. I thank the Minister for that. It is a matter of...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 710 c445-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this has been a very helpful start to our debate on Report. It goes right to the heart of ...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 710 c446-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in moving Amendment 3 I shall speak also to the other government amendments in this group....
Duke of Montrose | 710 c448-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is good to hear that the Minister and his team had a restorative time over Christmas an...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 710 c446 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 3 3: Schedule 1, page 214, line 39, at end insert "has entered into a debt arrangement pr...
Duke of Montrose | 710 c449 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the fact that the Government are taking out the "Scottish areas" definition is certainly s...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 710 c449 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the House will recognise my heartfelt relief that the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, is taking ...
Lord Greaves | 710 c449 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful for all that explanation of the Scottish stuff from the noble Duke—that was ...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 710 c450-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in moving this amendment I will speak to other government amendments in this group. Our de...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 710 c450 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 5 5: Schedule 1, page 216, line 3, at end insert— "Chief scientific adviser 14A (1) The M...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 710 c450 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 4 4: Schedule 1, page 214, line 40, leave out "made a composition arrangement with, or" ...
Lord Kingsland | 710 c451-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for, and congratulate him on, this group of amendments. It is fair to...
Lord Howie of Troon | 710 c453 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I follow the noble Lord, Lord Kingsland, in a very mild and almost trivial way. I am not s...
Baroness Byford | 710 c453 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for having listened to the concerns expressed previously and I welcom...
Lord Greaves | 710 c453-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, unlike the previous list of technical government amendments, these are extremely important...
Lord Greenway | 710 c457 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, when the Joint Committee considered the draft Bill, it thought that the general objective ...
Baroness Hamwee | 710 c456 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope not to detract from what my noble friend said in supporting these amendments, but I...
Lord Oxburgh | 710 c456 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, welcome Amendment 5, which goes a long way to meeting the concerns that I raised e...
Baroness Hamwee | 710 c457 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps nanny as well. My other question arises from Amendment 18, which provides for co-...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 710 c461-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I really do not see why that should not be possible, if it were considered appropriate. I ...
Lord Kingsland | 710 c463 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am most grateful to the Minister for what he has said about the general approach to Clau...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 710 c459-61 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we were going well until the noble Baroness spoke at the end. However, I have been well aw...
Baroness Byford | 710 c461 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for that clarification. I asked my question to try to establ...
Baroness Young of Old Scone | 710 c458-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will declare my interests before speaking to this part of the Bill. I am vice-president ...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 710 c464 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am of course grateful to both noble Lords. I reassure the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, that...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 710 c464 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for his explanation of this government amendment, and to the...
Lord Greaves | 710 c464 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Government for the amendment. If I remember rightly, we discussed this at some...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 710 c463-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in the spirit of the phrase used by the noble Lord, Lord Taylor, on a previous amendment, ...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 710 c463 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 6 6: Schedule 1, page 217, line 6, leave out sub-paragraph (3) and insert— "(3) Sub-parag...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 710 c535-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, has pointed out, my amendment in this group follows on...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 710 c534 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, at heart here, as was echoed by the noble Duke, the Duke of Montrose, is the key principle...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 710 c533-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not think that there is any disagreement in principle; it is really a question of the...
Baroness Hamwee | 710 c534-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this amendment takes us to the clause about marine plans for marine plan areas. It must be...
Baroness Hamwee | 710 c534 (Link to this contribution) Clause 49: Marine plans for marine plan areas Amendment 71 71: Clause 49, page 24, line 29, leave ...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 710 c531 (Link to this contribution) Amendments 67 to 69 67: Schedule 5, page 229, line 22, leave out "relevant period" and insert "peri...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 710 c531 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 70 70: After Clause 46, insert the following new Clause— "Report on MPS (1) Each policy a...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 710 c531-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendment 84. Amendment 70 seeks parliamentary scrutiny through a re...
Duke of Montrose | 710 c532 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the amendments of the noble Lord, Lord Wallace, have reopened an area about which, judging...
Earl Cathcart | 710 c530 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, once again I thank the Minister for listening to the concerns of this House and bringing b...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 710 c539 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 72 72: Clause 49, page 24, line 30, at end insert— "( ) A marine plan authority must seek...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 710 c539 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I must give notice to the House that, if the noble Baroness withdraws her amendment, I int...
Baroness Byford | 710 c538 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for giving way. Do I understand his reservation to be that h...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 710 c538 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, what I have said is that I can give the assurance that we will commit to ensuring that we ...
Baroness Young of Old Scone | 710 c536 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support all three of these amendments, but yet again I incline more towards those tabled...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 710 c536-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we debated these matters extensively in Committee and I recognise the strength of feeling ...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 710 c506-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Baroness for raising this matter. We come back to this relation...
Baroness Hamwee | 710 c506 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we are all for elegance, particularly when it is achieved in under one minute. In Committ...
Baroness Hamwee | 710 c523 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 62 62: After Clause 45, insert the following new Clause— "Suspension pending review (1) T...
Baroness Hamwee | 710 c509 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that was a typographical mistake, was it? I thought that it was much more significant. We...
Earl Cathcart | 710 c524-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have some sympathy with Amendment 62, proposed by the noble Baroness. If something in th...
Baroness Hamwee | 710 c523-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in moving Amendment 62, I shall also speak to Amendments 74, 75, 81, 87 and 88. The first...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 710 c525-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as the noble Baroness and the noble Earl have suggested, this group of amendments covers t...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 710 c505 (Link to this contribution) Clause 41: Welsh zone Amendment 59 59: Clause 41, page 21, line 20, leave out "modify or amend" an...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 710 c505-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I say with some relief that this is definitively a minor and technical amendment to correc...
Baroness Hamwee | 710 c506 (Link to this contribution) Clause 42: Marine policy statement Amendment 60 60: Clause 42, page 22, line 2, after "MPS" insert...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 710 c529 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 65 65: Schedule 5, page 228, line 33, at end insert— "Sustainability appraisal 6A (1) The...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 710 c529 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Baroness for agreeing that the government amendments meet the m...
Earl Cathcart | 710 c528 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for these amendments, which address the concerns that we raised in Co...
Baroness Hamwee | 710 c530 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Minister referred to our Amendment 66. He used two slightly different phrases, one of ...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 710 c529-30 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this group relates to an issue that was considered at some length in Committee. Amendment ...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 710 c528 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall also speak to the other government amendments in this group, but I shall hold my f...
Baroness Hamwee | 710 c528 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have tabled Amendment 83 in this group, but I feel that I may be letting everyone down b...
Baroness Hamwee | 710 c527 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, of course I accept the Minister’s reassurance. My concern is whether it is adequate. That ...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 710 c527 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 64 64: Schedule 5, page 228, line 23, leave out from "be" to "paragraph" in line 24 and i...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 710 c501 (Link to this contribution) Clause 28: Power to bring proceedings Amendment 53 53: Clause 28, page 14, line 41, leave out subs...
Lord Livsey of Talgarth | 710 c500 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, would the Minister just take account of—
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 710 c500 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry, my Lords, but we are on Report and I truly have sat down.
Baroness Byford | 710 c499 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have an academic question. The MMO, rightly, must be consulted first, as the Minister ha...
Baroness Byford | 710 c500 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for clarifying that, and for agreeing to take this away and ...
Baroness Hamwee | 710 c500 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before the Minister sits down, he just used the term "serious player" about the MMO. What ...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 710 c498-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Baroness is underestimating the power of the MMO in that respect and also undere...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 710 c505 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I never thought that the issue of boundaries could be anything other than sensitive in alm...
Duke of Montrose | 710 c505 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am most grateful to the Minster for his reply. It is of course very useful that, even if...
Duke of Montrose | 710 c503-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it strikes me that under the Bill, we—or perhaps more properly the Government and their ad...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 710 c504 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am not sure I can entirely follow the hypothetical case that the noble Duke, the Duke of...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 710 c503 (Link to this contribution) Clause 36: Guidance by the Secretary of State Amendments 55 to 58 55: Clause 36, page 18, line 24,...
Duke of Montrose | 710 c503 (Link to this contribution) Clause 39: Exclusive economic zone Amendment 58A 58A: Clause 39, page 20, line 6, at end insert— "...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 710 c502 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we certainly expect the individuals to have a distinct level of expertise, and they will n...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 710 c502-3 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 54 54: After Clause 28, insert the following new Clause— "Continuation of certain existin...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 710 c502 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for his introduction of the amendment and his explanation of its impl...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 710 c501-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, subsections (4) to (6) of Clause 28, as drafted, allow the MMO to designate people to carr...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 710 c491-2 (Link to this contribution) Clause 20: Agreements with certain harbour authorities Amendments 42 to 46 42: Clause 20, page 11,...
Lord Kingsland | 710 c492 (Link to this contribution) Clause 23: Research Amendment 47 47: Clause 23, page 13, line 9, at end insert "to be undertaken b...
Lord Kingsland | 710 c492 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope that the Minister is not unduly alarmed by this amendment. It is in the nature of a...
Baroness Hamwee | 710 c485 (Link to this contribution) Clause 16: Eligible bodies Amendment 39 39: Clause 16, page 9, line 39, at end insert— "( ) any lo...
Baroness Hamwee | 710 c485 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in moving Amendment 39, I shall also speak to Amendment 63 in this group. What the Minist...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 710 c486 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have no amendments in this group and I wondered whether the Government wanted to speak t...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 710 c486-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Baroness for her amendment. I hope that it will help to clarify...
Baroness Hamwee | 710 c488-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, on the last point, my amendment concerns representatives of local authorities. The marine ...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 710 c491 (Link to this contribution) Clause 18: Maximum duration of agreement Amendment 40 40: Clause 18, page 10, line 34, leave out "...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 710 c491 (Link to this contribution) Clause 19: Particular powers Amendment 41 41: Clause 19, page 11, line 31, leave out " 20(5)(a)" a...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 710 c497-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this has been a useful debate. I recognise that the intent of the amendments of the noble ...
Baroness Young of Old Scone | 710 c498 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am trying to envisage the circumstances in which the MMO would legitimately do what the ...
Lord Kingsland | 710 c494 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am most grateful to the Minister for giving what I regard as a copy-book answer, one tha...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 710 c492-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it might be helpful if I respond briefly to the noble Lord, Lord Kingsland, and then speak...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 710 c494 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for introducing his amendment and I support the amendment moved by my...
Baroness Hamwee | 710 c496 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we are the "various Peers" who have tabled the other amendments in the group, although fro...
Baroness Young of Old Scone | 710 c496-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise to support Amendments 50 and 51. We all want the Marine Management Organisation to ...
Earl Cathcart | 710 c494-5 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 49 49: After Clause 23, insert the following new Clause— "Advisory role of the MMO in dev...
Earl Cathcart | 710 c495-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this group of amendments looks rather more like those we discussed in Committee, with seve...
Duke of Montrose | 710 c479 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, can the noble Lord give me the reference?
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 710 c478-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Duke for that comment; he raises a very interesting point. Befo...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 710 c449-50 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Duke referred to the Energy Act. He will accept that the Government do not want ...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 710 c457-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before I contribute to this stage of the Bill, I shall declare my interests. Details are a...
Baroness Hamwee | 710 c539 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, then I am perfectly happy to test it on my amendment. I beg leave to test the opinion of t...
Earl Cathcart | 710 c500 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for setting out the Government’s position so clearly. I do not believ...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 710 c500 (Link to this contribution) Clause 25: Provision of information etc Amendment 52 52: Clause 25, page 13, line 33, leave out "p...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 710 c499-500 (Link to this contribution) That is right, my Lords. We have heard today that, although a number of noble Lords do not agree wit...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 710 c494 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 48 48: Clause 23, page 13, line 11, at end insert— "(3) Subsection (2) does not require t...
Lord Howarth of Newport | 710 c476 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I appreciate what my noble friend has said. I thank him, my noble friend Lord Davies of Ol...
Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer | 710 c466 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my name is attached to this amendment. First I declare the interests that I declared in Co...
Baroness Hamwee | 710 c538 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for the explanations. I am not sure that I am wholly persuaded on the...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 710 c528-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, when the Minister comes to respond, will he clarify whether the government amendments pick...
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