Parliamentary search - Climate Change Bill [HL]

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Parliamentary proceeding

Reference

699 c449-501

Session

2007-08

Department

Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs

Legislative stage

Report stage

Procedure

New clauses

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords chamber

Climate Change Bill (HL). As amended in Committee.
Monday, 4 February 2008
Bills
House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Lord Woolmer of Leeds | 699 c485 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my noble friend Lord Campbell-Savours will undoubtedly repeat variations of his remarks th...

Lord Turnbull | 699 c484-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I may respond to the remarks of the noble Lord, Lord Campbell-Savours. I think tha...

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Earl Cathcart | 699 c486 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as things stand in the Bill, the Secretary of State can amend the 2050 target or baseline ...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 699 c486 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 9: 9: After Clause 2, insert the following new Clause— ““Statements of compati...

Lord Rooker | 699 c483-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I can be brief because my arguments are exactly the same as on the previous amendment. If ...

Lord Campbell-Savours | 699 c484 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I think that this issue—this relationship—is at the heart of the Bill. I ask noble Lords t...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 699 c482 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I can understand the Minister being somewhat confused at this stage. I have been heartened...

Earl Cathcart | 699 c482-3 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 5: 5: Clause 2, page 2, line 4, at end insert— ““( ) Those powers may only be ...

Lord Rooker | 699 c481 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the committee has been set up with particular terms of reference and people have accepted ...

Lord Campbell-Savours | 699 c481 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that is precisely the problem in this Bill. We will come to my amendments some time next w...

Lord Rooker | 699 c480-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it would do. I am sorry; I should stick to the brief, really. ““Best possible advice”” mea...

Lord Campbell-Savours | 699 c480 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, may I then pursue my noble friend further down this route? He talks about the best possibl...

Lord Rooker | 699 c481 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not know whether I had sat down or not. I will check on my noble friend’s interventio...

Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer | 699 c481 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this is Report, and I understood that we can speak only once.

Lord Campbell-Savours | 699 c481 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the argument is that in the event that there is a dispute, the matter should be referred t...

Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 699 c465 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the past two speeches were extremely refreshing, if I may say so. Not having been present ...

Lord Turnbull | 699 c464-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, find the clause incoherent and the logic of the amendment compelling. Instead of i...

Lord Puttnam | 699 c465 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am mostly reassured by what the noble Lord, Lord Turnbull, has said. We probably spent m...

Lord Turnbull | 699 c454 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, oppose this amendment. It seems to me technically flawed that the mention of 2 deg...

Lord Rooker | 699 c454-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is true that this is not the first time that this issue has been raised, but it is the ...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 699 c457-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for trailing amendments yet to come and we look forward to t...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 699 c458 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as I hope I explained earlier to the noble Lord, the duty is to contribute to a reduction ...

Earl of Caithness | 699 c461-3 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 2: 2: Clause 1, page 1, line 5, after ““to”” insert ““promote policies and tak...

Lord Lloyd of Berwick | 699 c463-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in the absence of the noble Lord, Lord Crickhowell, I support this amendment. I did not ta...

Lord Teverson | 699 c464 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the amendment, which emphasises for me the fact that the Bill, much as it has br...

Lord Woolmer of Leeds | 699 c454 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I echo the remarks of the noble Lord, Lord Jay. As framed, the amendment proposes that UK ...

Lord Clinton-Davis | 699 c453 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I entirely agree with the noble Lord who has just spoken. It is important to avoid in the ...

Lord Jay of Ewelme | 699 c453 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, oppose this amendment but for rather different reasons. First, I very much agree o...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 699 c449-51 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 1: 1: Before Clause 1, insert the following new Clause— ““Climate change (1) T...

Lord Clinton-Davis | 699 c451 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, given that it is the duty of the court that sits on the sort of application that the noble...

Lord Monson | 699 c452 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not think I was here when this matter was discussed in Committee, but surely the phra...

Lord Blackwell | 699 c452-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have not intervened before in our consideration of the Bill but I hope that the House wi...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 699 c451 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble Lord for giving me the opportunity to clarify the issue, if he is still ...

Lord Teverson | 699 c451-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I agree with the comments of the noble Lord, Lord Taylor of Holbeach. There is a duty on u...

Lord Rooker | 699 c478-80 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will do my best within the rules of the House to answer any questions as they come up. A...

Lord Rooker | 699 c480 (Link to this contribution) Absolutely, my Lords. I have not sought to hide that at all. The Conservative amendment takes the Go...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 699 c476-7 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 4: 4: Before Clause 2, insert the following new Clause— ““Duty to set a new ta...

Earl of Caithness | 699 c477 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my noble friend’s amendment and the government amendments go a long way towards meeting th...

Lord Teverson | 699 c477 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, setting targets is now very much up to the Committee on Climate change. On the whole, we o...

Baroness Byford | 699 c478 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support my noble friend’s amendment. Earlier in our debates, the Minister clearly identi...

Lord Rooker | 699 c472-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Redesdale, referred to a ““brave”” decision. I do not think that we s...

Lord Brooke of Sutton Mandeville | 699 c474 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before the noble Lord, Lord Redesdale, responds, perhaps I may say that after 30 years in ...

Lord Rooker | 699 c474 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not want to quibble, but the last six or seven words from the noble Lord threw me com...

Lord Redesdale | 699 c474 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Minister will probably guess that I am certainly not on his side on this issue. I was ...

Lord Brooke of Sutton Mandeville | 699 c472 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is an index of the importance that our world attaches to climate change that the first ...

Earl of Liverpool | 699 c472 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I had not intended to speak on Report, although I spoke at Second Reading when I supported...

Lord Jay of Ewelme | 699 c471-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hesitate to take a different view from that of the chairman of the Joint Committee, part...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 699 c471 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I certainly appreciate the commitment of the noble Lord, Lord Redesdale, to ensuring that ...

Lord Puttnam | 699 c471 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we on the scrutiny committee discussed this at great length, and I thought that we came ou...

Earl of Caithness | 699 c469 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Rooker, stands alone in trying to defend the Government on Clause 1(1...

Lord Redesdale | 699 c469-70 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 3: 3: Clause 1, page 1, line 6, leave out ““60%”” and insert ““80%”” The nobl...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 699 c466 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my noble friend Lord Caithness has usefully informed the House about this issue. It has al...

Lord Rooker | 699 c467-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, regret the absence of the noble Lord, Lord Crickhowell, but I do not think that he...

Lord Dearing | 699 c465 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I voted against the first amendment because I thought that it was inoperable. I think that...

Lord Brooke of Sutton Mandeville | 699 c466 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in a debate on a climate change Bill and in an era when a candidate for the presidency of ...

Lord Teverson | 699 c494 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I agree with the noble Lord, Lord Taylor. I enjoyed his sporting analogy. I do not know wh...

Lord Turnbull | 699 c494-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is accepted that from one year to the next there can be a great deal of variability eit...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 699 c492-4 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 16: 16: Clause 4, page 3, line 7, at end insert— ““( ) to set within each of t...

Lord Rooker | 699 c501 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I beg to move that consideration on Report be now adjourned. In moving the Motion, I sugge...

Lord Rooker | 699 c495-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will get off on the right foot. Subject to the government amendments being approved, I a...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 699 c499 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful for the Minister’s response and for the support of the noble Lord, Lord Teve...

Lord Woolmer of Leeds | 699 c495 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I wonder whether the noble Lord, Lord Taylor, in responding, could clarify two or three qu...

Lord Puttnam | 699 c495 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it has been very seldom during the passage of the Bill that I have disagreed with the nobl...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 699 c487-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for that response. I hope that it will be possible to keep this matte...

Lord Clinton-Davis | 699 c488 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 10: 10: Clause 3, page 2, line 33, after second ““the”” insert ““Advisory”” T...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 699 c490-1 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 13: 13: Clause 3, page 2, line 38, at end insert— ““( ) As soon as is reasonab...

Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 699 c491 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have a question relating to government Amendment No. 14, although I think that it also r...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 699 c491-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is a little while since the noble Baroness and I have exchanged points across the Chamb...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 699 c492 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendments Nos. 14 and 15: 14: Clause 3, page 3, line 2, at end insert— ““( ) If the order m...

Lord Davies of Oldham | 699 c488-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am of course grateful to my noble friend Lord Clinton-Davis for his attempt to assist th...

Lord Clinton-Davis | 699 c489 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, why does my noble friend not think that ACAS is equally influential?

Lord Davies of Oldham | 699 c489 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thought that my noble friend might be fertile in referring to significant bodies that al...

Lord Clinton-Davis | 699 c489-90 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am enormously unimpressed by the case put forward by my noble friend. He is usually very...

Lord Rooker | 699 c487 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord is quite right that I was sympathetic. Yet even where I have made no commit...

Lord Campbell-Savours | 699 c480 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, will my noble friend answer a simple question and place his reply on the record in simple ...

Lord Brooke of Sutton Mandeville | 699 c485-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, when we had the debate on Schedule 1, particularly on paragraph 1, where there was a refer...

Lord Clinton-Davis | 699 c458 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I simply fail to understand why we have to incorporate the amendment in the Bill. If there...

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Climate change

Environment protection

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Carbon emissions

Greenhouse gas emissions

Legislation

Climate Change Bill (HL) 2007-08

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