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Victims and Prisoners Bill

Debate on bills on Tuesday, 23 April 2024, in the House of Lords, led by Earl Howe, Lord Roborough and Lord Bellamy. The answering members were Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede and Baroness Thornton.
Lords report stage second day. Amendment 19 disagreed to on division (82 to 211). Amendments 20 to 22, 25, 28, 31, 33, 36 to 45, 48 to 54 and 56 agreed to. Amendment 57 agreed to on division (200 to 192). Amendment 58 agreed to on division (203 to 192). Amendments 63 and 74 to 76 agreed to. Amendment 77 disagreed to on division (168 to 177). Amendment 80 disagreed to on division (144 to 154). Amendments 81, 82, 85 to 87 and 88 to 90 agreed to.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
837 cc1383-1464 
Session
2023-24
Department
Ministry of Justice
Legislative stage
Report stage
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Proceeding contributions
Baroness Brinton | 837 c1383 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Brinton

19: Clause 2, page 2, line 36, at end insert—

“(5A) R...

Baroness Brinton | 837 cc1383-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 19 in my name was originally proposed by my honourable friend Sarah Olney MP ...


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Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 837 cc1385-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, a number of the amendments in this group are in my name and that of my noble friend Lad...

Lord Russell of Liverpool | 837 cc1387-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is quite a large group and I will speak briefly on the amendments I have my name t...

Baroness Hamwee | 837 c1388 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will say a couple of words on—

Baroness Humphreys | 837 c1388 (Link to this contribution)

I do not think the noble Lord has finished.

Baroness Hamwee | 837 c1388 (Link to this contribution)

I am so sorry; I thought that the noble Lord had finished.

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Lord Russell of Liverpool | 837 cc1388-9 (Link to this contribution)

Nearly—soon, I devoutly hope, but I have more to talk about, sorry. My Amendment 59 is about the ...

Bishop of Manchester | 837 cc1389-1391 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to my Amendments 60, 64 and 70, which echo amendments on support services ...

Lord Meston | 837 cc1391-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak briefly again in relation to the provision of transcripts covered by Amend...

Baroness Newlove | 837 cc1392-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to Amendment 57. Why would I not, since it is a duty to collaborate and co...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 837 cc1393-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 79, in my name and that of the right reverend Prelate the Bishop of Glouceste...

Baroness Gohir | 837 cc1394-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to support Amendments 60 and 64 in the name of the right reverend Prelate the Bi...

Lord Hogan-Howe | 837 c1395 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 19 from the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton, principally because it is...

Bishop of Gloucester | 837 c1396 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, from listening to this debate, I am struck again and again by how so much of what we ar...

Baroness Benjamin | 837 cc1396-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I fully support my noble friend Lady Brinton’s Amendment 19 and her passionate and comm...

Baroness Butler-Sloss | 837 c1397 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I had not intended to speak on this group but, having heard from the noble Baroness, La...

Baroness Hamwee | 837 cc1397-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I apologise to the noble Lord, Lord Russell. I was surprised when there seemed to be a ...

Lord Hampton | 837 c1398 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak briefly to Amendment 61, in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Ponsonby of ...

Lord Bellamy | 837 cc1398-1403 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords for their contributions to this debate. I first bring forth the...

Baroness Brinton | 837 c1403 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have spoken on this group, and particularly the Minister fo...

Lord Bellamy | 837 cc1403-6 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bellamy

20: Clause 2, page 3, line 13, leave out paragraph (c) and inse...

Lord Bellamy | 837 c1406 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bellamy

25: Clause 3, page 3, line 28, at end insert—

“(b) the Co...

Lord Bellamy | 837 c1406 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bellamy

28: Clause 4, page 4, line 22, after “General” insert “, the Co...

Lord Bellamy | 837 cc1406-7 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bellamy

31: Clause 5, page 4, line 27, at end insert—

“(A1) Where...

Lord Bellamy | 837 c1407 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bellamy

33: Clause 6, page 4, line 38, leave out “victims’ code” and in...

Lord Bach | 837 c1407 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bach

35: Clause 6, page 5, line 25, at end insert—

“(4A) Regulati...

Lord Bach | 837 cc1407-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 35 would require information on compliance with the victims’ code to be linke...

Lord Russell of Liverpool | 837 c1409 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise very briefly to support this, with a slightly heavy heart. It has the virtue of ...

Baroness Fox of Buckley | 837 c1409 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is important to acknowledge that we need to improve the kind of data collection that...

Baroness Brinton | 837 c1410 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I spoke in Committee on this issue, and I continue to offer our support from these Benc...

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 837 c1410 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank my noble friend for introducing this amendment. As he said, we had a helpful di...

Lord Roborough | 837 cc1411-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Bach, for his amendment, which seeks to introduce a consis...

Lord Bach | 837 c1412 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister very much for his response. I also thank noble Lords around the Ho...

Lord Bellamy | 837 cc1412-3 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bellamy

36: Clause 6, page 5, line 27, leave out “such” and insert “the...

Lord Bellamy | 837 c1413 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bellamy

38: Clause 7, page 6, line 4, leave out “victims’ code” and ins...

Lord Bellamy | 837 c1413 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bellamy

40: Clause 8, page 6, line 37, leave out “victims’ code” and in...

Lord Bellamy | 837 c1414 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bellamy

42: Clause 9, page 7, leave out line 40 and insert “duty in sec...

Lord Bellamy | 837 cc1414-5 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bellamy

44: Clause 10, page 8, line 26, at end insert—

“(A1) The ...

Lord Bellamy | 837 c1415 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bellamy

48: Clause 10, page 8, line 33, leave out “these purposes” and ...

Lord Bellamy | 837 cc1415-6 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bellamy

54: Clause 11, page 9, line 23, leave out “children or individu...

Lord Bellamy | 837 c1416 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bellamy

56: Clause 11, page 9, line 34, leave out “such” and insert “th...

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 837 c1416 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede

57: After Clause 11, insert the following new Cla...

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 837 c1416 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, on behalf of my noble friend Lady Thornton, I wish to test the opinion of the House on ...

Lord Russell of Liverpool | 837 cc1416-1420 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Russell of Liverpool

58: After Clause 11, insert the following new Clau...

Lord Russell of Liverpool | 837 c1420 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we debated this amendment on the first day on Report last week. It is to do with traini...

Lord Bellamy | 837 c1420 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bellamy

63: Clause 13, page 11, line 27, leave out “children or” and in...

Lord Bellamy | 837 c1420 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bellamy

74: Clause 15, page 12, line 31, leave out “children or” and in...

Lord Bellamy | 837 cc1424-5 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bellamy

76: After Clause 15, insert the following new Clause—

“Di...

Lord Bellamy | 837 cc1425-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 76 has been tabled to clarify that victims of crime can get the support they ...

Baroness Bertin | 837 cc1427-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to speak to the amendments in my name: Amendments 87, 88, 89 and 94. I thank my ...

Baroness Morgan of Cotes | 837 cc1429-1430 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak to Amendments 87A, 88A and 158, which, as the Minister has already said, ...

Baroness Newlove | 837 cc1430-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am using IT in this speech—trying to get trendy, as my daughters tell me to do. My ap...

Baroness Meacher | 837 cc1432-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I speak to my Amendment 96. I thank those noble Lords who added their names to this ame...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 837 c1433 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I offer some brief words in support of Amendment 96. Like the Domestic Abuse Commission...

Baroness Hamwee | 837 cc1433-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendments to which the noble Baroness, Lady Bertin, has spoken. This was...

Baroness Brinton | 837 c1434 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my honourable friend Layla Moran laid an amendment about the ending of non-disclosure a...

Baroness Thornton | 837 cc1434-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is really a pleasure to respond to this group from these Benches, because there is r...

Lord Bellamy | 837 cc1435-6 (Link to this contribution)

I shall answer a couple of questions and make one clarification. I think it was the noble Barones...

Baroness Meacher | 837 c1436 (Link to this contribution)

I hope the Minister will forgive me for interrupting him, but I want to thank him for suggesting ...

Lord Bellamy | 837 c1436 (Link to this contribution)

I am always happy to meet, but we might not get much further.

Baroness Meacher | 837 c1436 (Link to this contribution)

I just wanted to put on record that we have agreed that we will meet, and I welcome that.

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 837 c1436 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede

77: After Clause 15, insert the following new Cla...

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 837 c1436 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to this briefly, although we regard it as fundamentally important. Amendme...

Baroness Hamwee | 837 cc1436-7 (Link to this contribution)

My noble friend Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames wanted to speak to these two amendments but is una...

Earl Howe | 837 cc1437-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Ponsonby, and, in her absence, the noble Baroness...

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 837 c1438 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am not convinced by the noble Earl. When he opened, he acknowledged that this is an e...

Baroness Chakrabarti | 837 c1438 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Chakrabarti

80: Clause 16, page 13, line 14, at end insert “or a se...

Baroness Chakrabarti | 837 cc1438-1443 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we are now in the family court because in the real world and in a joined-up justice sys...

Baroness Butler-Sloss | 837 cc1443-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have put my name to these four amendments. I feel quite strongly about Amendment 80 i...

Baroness Helic | 837 cc1444-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support these amendments. They are underpinned by a simple principle: the best intere...

Lord Meston | 837 cc1445-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak in support of Amendments 80 and 84. These amendments would extend the prov...

Baroness Brinton | 837 c1447 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I added my name to Amendments 80, 83, 91 and 92, and I support Amendment 84 as well, al...

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 837 cc1447-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, although this has been a relatively short debate, it has been quite comprehensive. All ...

Lord Bellamy | 837 c1448 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we have before us various amendments that deal essentially with family justice. I will ...

Lord Meston | 837 c1448 (Link to this contribution)

I fully understand the point that the Minister is making. Can he indicate whether this problem ha...

Lord Bellamy | 837 c1448 (Link to this contribution)

There have been preliminary discussions with the committee but it has not formally started work. ...

Lord Bellamy | 837 cc1449-1450 (Link to this contribution)

It would be extremely regrettable if the Family Procedure Rule Committee were to refuse to embark...

Baroness Chakrabarti | 837 cc1450-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hope noble Lords will forgive me for forgetting courtesy in my brevity. I failed to m...

Baroness Chakrabarti | 837 c1451 (Link to this contribution)

Then I have no hope. But I will take comfort from the Minister’s comments, because that would be ...

Lord Bellamy | 837 cc1451-4 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bellamy

81: Clause 16, page 13, line 22, after “step” insert “of any ki...

Lord Bellamy | 837 c1454 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bellamy

85: After Clause 17, insert the following new Clause—

“Vi...

Lord Bellamy | 837 c1455 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bellamy

86: Clause 18, page 17, line 17, at end insert—

“(za) in ...

Baroness Bertin | 837 c1455 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Bertin

87: Clause 24, page 22, line 38, at end insert—

“(3A) ...

Baroness Bertin | 837 c1455 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Bertin

88: Clause 24, page 23, line 21, at end insert—

“(10) ...

Baroness Bertin | 837 c1455 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Bertin

89: Clause 24, page 25, line 6, at end insert—

“(1A) T...

Earl Howe | 837 cc1455-7 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Earl Howe

90: After Clause 25, insert the following new Clause—

“Child...

Earl Howe | 837 cc1457-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak on behalf of my noble and learned friend Lord Bellamy. Government Amendmen...

Lord Meston | 837 c1458 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 90, which provides for the relaying of information to schools. Scho...

Baroness Brinton | 837 c1458 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, from these Benches, we also welcome Amendment 90. I want to add one other issue though....

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 837 cc1458-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have a genuine question. Of course, I support the amendment, but the wording here is<...

Earl Howe | 837 c1459 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lords who have spoken in support of this amendment. I will d...

Baroness Fox of Buckley | 837 c1459 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Fox of Buckley

93: After Clause 25, insert the following new Clause...

Baroness Fox of Buckley | 837 cc1459-1462 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 93 simply but crucially calls on the Secretary of State to

“issue guida...

Lord Roborough | 837 c1462 (Link to this contribution)

: My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Fox, for her Amendment 93, which requires guidance t...

Baroness Fox of Buckley | 837 cc1462-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, when I was at school, there used to be a tactic called sending people to Coventry, in w...

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Welsh legislative consent sought.
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