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Victims and Prisoners Bill

Lords committee stage third day. Clauses 5 to 14 agreed to. New clause agreed to.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
835 cc1457-1534 
Session
2023-24
Department
Ministry of Justice
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber

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Deposited Paper DEP2024-0530
Tuesday, 21 May 2024
Deposited papers
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Baroness Newlove | 835 cc1458-1460 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I add my support to Amendments 30, 31, 37 to 46, and 53. Compliance with the victims’ c...

Lord Hampton | 835 c1460 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have added my name to Amendments 30 and 44 to 46 in this group, in the name of the no...


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Baroness Brinton | 835 cc1460-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have signed Amendments 31, 51 and 83 in this group. Amendment 31 would give the Victi...

Lord Hogan-Howe | 835 cc1461-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support in broad terms the need for the commissioner to have more powers to intervene...

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 835 cc1462-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to Amendment 36, which is in my noble friend Lord Bach’s name, as well as ...

Lord Bellamy | 835 cc1463-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank noble Lords very much for their contributions to this group. I first apologise ...

Baroness Chakrabarti | 835 cc1466-7 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps the Minister can drink a bit more water at this point, though that is not the sole reason...

Lord Bellamy | 835 cc1467-8 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Baroness for that intervention. I will continue to reflect on all the points ma...

Lord Russell of Liverpool | 835 cc1468-1471 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, first, I pay tribute to the Minister, who for 25 minutes has responded to this group wh...

Lord Bach | 835 c1470 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bach

34A: Clause 6 page 5 line 25, at end insert—

“(4A) Regulatio...

Lord Bach | 835 cc1470-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, although this amendment has been put down rather late, I hope that once the Committee h...

Lord Russell of Liverpool | 835 c1472 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as it happens, I did read the article in the Financial Times, and pressed the little bu...

Baroness Newlove | 835 cc1472-4 (Link to this contribution)

I too support the amendment. I am grateful that we have put people into the Bill, because that is...

Baroness Brinton | 835 c1474 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I too welcome this amendment. Although I am speaking from the Liberal Democrat Benches,...

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 835 cc1474-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I too read Dr Natalie Byrom’s compelling piece. I very much took to heart the points ma...

Lord Bellamy | 835 c1475 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not think I could have put it better than the noble Lord, Lord Ponsonby. It is a g...

Lord Bach | 835 c1475 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords for their contributions to this fairly short yet important deba...

Lord Hampton | 835 c1476 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Hampton

53: Clause 12, page 10, line 20, at end insert—

“(4A) Col...

Lord Hampton | 835 cc1476-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak briefly to my Amendment 53, which would insert the concept:

“Collabo...

Lord Russell of Liverpool | 835 cc1477-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak to a variety of amendments. I support the amendment just moved by the nob...

Bishop of Manchester | 835 cc1478-1480 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to speak to Amendments 56 and 59 in my name; I also support the other amendments...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 835 cc1480-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendments in this group specifically on domestic abuse services. The Jus...

Baroness Newlove | 835 cc1481-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I wish to speak in support of Amendments 59, 60, 62, 64 and 65. When you become a victi...

Lord Bach | 835 cc1483-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am going to speak to my Amendment 65. I am delighted that the noble Baroness who has ...

Baroness Brinton | 835 cc1484-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I want to pick up the last point of the noble Lord, Lord Bach. The duty to collaborate ...

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 835 cc1487-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, to repeat what I said earlier, I dealt with a couple of stalking cases relatively recen...

Earl Howe | 835 cc1488-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this group of amendments brings together a very important set of issues, as we have hea...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 835 c1489 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry to interrupt, and I realise that the Minister has had to take over the brief at short ...

Earl Howe | 835 c1490 (Link to this contribution)

That is clearly a concern, and we must listen to the domestic abuse commissioner very carefully. ...

Lord Russell of Liverpool | 835 cc1490-1 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister very much for what he said. Does he accept that the officeholder, who is per...

Earl Howe | 835 c1491 (Link to this contribution)

First, I take the noble Lord’s point about the Victims’ Commissioner; I am happy to feed that int...

Baroness Brinton | 835 c1491 (Link to this contribution)

I apologise for interrupting the Minister. I am very grateful for his response; I am sure that th...

Earl Howe | 835 c1492 (Link to this contribution)

Indeed. We come back to the earlier amendment tabled by the noble Lord, Lord Bach, on how one sho...

Lord Russell of Liverpool | 835 c1492 (Link to this contribution)

Can I make one additional point? The Minister just referred to allowing police and crime commissi...

Earl Howe | 835 cc1492-4 (Link to this contribution)

I think we come back to the guidance on this—to get the guidance right and ensure that the focus ...

Lord Hampton | 835 cc1493-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who took part in this extraordinarily wide-ranging debate, whic...

Baroness Thornton | 835 c1495 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Thornton

67: Clause 15, page 12, line 12, at end insert—

“(c)...

Baroness Thornton | 835 cc1495-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak also to Amendment 69 in my name, and I have the support of the noble Baron...

Lord Russell of Liverpool | 835 cc1496-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Thornton, for speaking to these amendments.

We r...

Baroness Newlove | 835 cc1498-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support all the amendments. Listening to stories of stalking, we realise that it is j...

Baroness Brinton | 835 cc1499-1500 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I signed Amendments 67 and 69, tabled by the noble Baroness, Lady Thornton. She was rig...

Baroness Newlove | 835 c1500 (Link to this contribution)

There is an important point about parole. I know that parole is in the Bill later, but I cannot w...

Baroness Brinton | 835 c1501 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to the noble Baroness for that very helpful intervention.

At the end of ...

Baroness Meacher | 835 c1501 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak extremely briefly, because others have spoken at great length, to support ...

Lord Roborough | 835 cc1501-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, government Amendment 74 has been tabled to place a duty on the Secretary of State to is...

Baroness Brinton | 835 c1503 (Link to this contribution)

Before the Minister sits down, he said there is no need to add or specify independent stalking ad...

Lord Roborough | 835 c1503 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Baroness for her point. While we are clear that there should be no hierarchy of...

Baroness Thornton | 835 cc1503-4 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for his comprehensive remarks and for his explanation about why Clause 15 is...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 835 c1504 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock

67B: Clause 15, page 12, line 12, at end insert—

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Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 835 cc1504-5 (Link to this contribution)

I must declare an interest, not because of my own age but because I used to work for Age Concern ...

Baroness Fox of Buckley | 835 cc1506-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to my Amendment 72, which I am delighted is supported by the noble Lord, L...

Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 835 cc1508-1510 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Fox of Buckley, and to support her ...

Baroness Brinton | 835 c1510 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am sorry that the noble Lord, Lord Wigley, was not here to move his amendment. Given ...

Baroness Brinton | 835 c1510 (Link to this contribution)

Let me develop this point first. The difficulty that I have is that the one place where a trans w...

Baroness Fox of Buckley | 835 c1511 (Link to this contribution)

I only want to clarify. The example that I used, to be clear, concerned instances where there was...

Baroness Brinton | 835 c1511 (Link to this contribution)

With the greatest respect to the noble Baroness, Lady Fox, and the noble Lord, Lord Jackson, who ...

Baroness Thornton | 835 c1511 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I congratulate my noble friend Lord Foulkes on his suite of amendments. I am not surpri...

Lord Roborough | 835 cc1511-3 (Link to this contribution)

I thank noble Lords for their contributions to this debate on two related amendments. The amendme...

Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 835 c1512 (Link to this contribution)

I think it is rather early to be saying, as the Minister did, having not read the Sex Matters rep...

Lord Roborough | 835 c1512 (Link to this contribution)

I am afraid that the response to my noble friend is that the Government are absolutely adamant th...

Baroness Fox of Buckley | 835 c1512 (Link to this contribution)

I know that noble Lords want to move on, but the key to what I was saying is that service provisi...

Lord Roborough | 835 c1512 (Link to this contribution)

I am very happy to take the noble Baroness’s comments back to the Minister and the Government, an...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 835 c1514 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I particularly thank the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton, and my noble friend Lady Thornto...

Lord Roborough | 835 c1514 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Roborough

74: Leave out Clause 15 and insert the following new Clause—<...

Baroness Brinton | 835 c1515 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Brinton

75: After Clause 15,

insert the following new Clause—...

Baroness Brinton | 835 cc1515-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I can be fairly brief because we have covered the issue of mandatory training in other ...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 835 c1516 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Lister of Burtersett

76: In subsection (2)(a), after “girls” insert...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 835 cc1516-1520 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak also to Amendments 77 and 107 in my name, and in support of Amendment 80, ...

Baroness Bertin | 835 c1520 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to say very quickly, because I know that we are trying to get through this, how much I sup...

Lord Meston | 835 c1520 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, reference was made briefly to Amendment 80, and

“services for victims … with no r...

Baroness Fox of Buckley | 835 cc1520-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have an amendment in this group—sometimes the way the groupings lie is a bit difficul...

Lord Blencathra | 835 cc1522-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the noble Baroness, Lady Fox of Buckley, and shall speak to her Amendment 105...

Bishop of Bristol | 835 cc1525-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to speak on behalf of two of my colleagues who have supported amendments in this...

Lord German | 835 cc1526-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to add my support to those remarks from the right reverend Prelate. I have added...

Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle | 835 c1528 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will make two extremely brief points. First, I will address Amendments 80 and 107, af...

Baroness Hamwee | 835 cc1528-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was there in the 1960s but that is not quite the object of this debate.

I was s...

Baroness Thornton | 835 cc1529-1530 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have spoken in the debate; it has been interesting, if slig...

Earl Howe | 835 c1530 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I too am very grateful to all noble Lords who have spoken to this group of amendments, ...

Baroness Brinton | 835 c1530 (Link to this contribution)

Can the Minister give the Committee any sense of the timescale? This is really overdue. It was pr...

Earl Howe | 835 cc1530-3 (Link to this contribution)

I will need to write to the noble Baroness—and to other noble Lords, of course—on that point, as ...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 835 cc1533-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I gather that I am supposed to speak now, because I moved an amendment to the amendment...

Baroness Brinton | 835 c1534 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I beg leave to withdraw my Amendment 75.

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