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Armed Forces Bill

Debate on bills and Committee proceeding on Monday, 8 November 2021, in the House of Lords.
Lords committee stage third day. Clauses 19 to 23 agreed to. Clauses 24 and 25, as amended, agreed to. Clause 26 agreed to. Bill reported with amendments.
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Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
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Session
2021-22
Department
Ministry of Defence
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords Grand Committee
Armed Forces Bill 2019-21 to 2021-22. Brought from the Commons.
Wednesday, 14 July 2021
Bills
House of Lords
Deposited Paper DEP2021-0908
Wednesday, 17 November 2021
Deposited papers
House of Lords
Armed Forces Bill 2019-21 to 2021-22. As amended in Grand Committee.
Monday, 8 November 2021
Bills
House of Lords
Deposited Paper DEP2021-0929
Tuesday, 23 November 2021
Deposited papers
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Lord Tunnicliffe | 815 cc405-6GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Tunnicliffe

51: After Clause 18, insert the following new Clause—

Lord Tunnicliffe | 815 c406GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 51, in the name of my noble friend Lord Coaker, is a probing amendment. We wi...


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815 c406GC (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps the noble Lord could take his mask off.

Lord Tunnicliffe | 815 cc406-7GC (Link to this contribution)

Sorry. You do not want me to start again, do you? I am in two minds about it.

This would no...

Lord Boyce | 815 c407GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I oppose this amendment. Fundamentally, I believe that it would be seriously detrimenta...

Lord Lancaster of Kimbolton | 815 cc407-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I, too, oppose this amendment. I take the opportunity at the start of the session to re...

Lord Craig of Radley | 815 cc408-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not support this amendment either. Indeed, I fully endorse the remarks of the nobl...

Baroness Smith of Newnham | 815 cc409-410GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I fear that the noble Lords, Lord Tunnicliffe and Lord Coaker, will not have very much ...

Baroness Goldie | 815 cc410-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Coaker, for tabling Amendment 51, and the noble Lord, Lord...

Lord Tunnicliffe | 815 c412GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, one of the essential skills for survival in politics is being able to count. I recognis...

Lord Tunnicliffe | 815 c413GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Tunnicliffe

52: After Clause 18, insert the following new Clause—

Lord Tunnicliffe | 815 cc413-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 52 in the name of my noble friend Lord Coaker, I will speak also to...

Baroness Smith of Newnham | 815 c414GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we on these Benches did not add our names to these two amendments, both of which seem t...

Lord Houghton of Richmond | 815 c414GC (Link to this contribution)

This amendment, which I do not particularly support or otherwise, would be an awful lot better pl...

Baroness Goldie | 815 cc414-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this may have been a short debate, but it was interesting. Once again, I have no doubt ...

Lord Tunnicliffe | 815 c416GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank everyone who has taken part in the debate. The noble and gallant Lord, Lord Houghton of R...

Lord Coaker | 815 c418GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Coaker

53: After Clause 18, insert the following new Clause—

“Fle...

Lord Coaker | 815 cc418-421GC (Link to this contribution)

Good afternoon, my Lords. I look forward to continuing the interesting debate that we have had on...

Baroness Smith of Newnham | 815 cc419-422GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support these amendments, to which I have added my name. As the noble Lord, Lord Coak...

Baroness Goldie | 815 cc422-7GC (Link to this contribution)

One would think that one would get into a routine of “Off with the mask, slug of the water, stand...

Lord Lancaster of Kimbolton | 815 cc426-8GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my noble friend for giving way. I simply want to ask a technical question, which...

Baroness Goldie | 815 c428GC (Link to this contribution)

I am sure that your Lordships are, as ever, immensely impressed by the noble Lord’s command of th...

Lord Coaker | 815 cc428-430GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for her response which, as usual, sought to engage with the questions. That ...

Lord Browne of Ladyton | 815 c430GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Browne of Ladyton

59: After Clause 18, insert the following new Clause—...

Lord Browne of Ladyton | 815 cc430-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment is also in the names of the noble Lord, Lord Clement-Jones, and the nobl...

Lord Houghton of Richmond | 815 cc432-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a pleasure to speak in support of this amendment. It is one of the few elements o...

Lord Craig of Radley | 815 cc434-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support this amendment and agree that there is an increasing need for clarity not jus...

Baroness Smith of Newnham | 815 cc435-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise as a Liberal Democrat to support this amendment and, like the noble Lord, Lord B...

Lord Coaker | 815 cc436-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank my noble friend Lord Browne, the noble Lord, Lord Clement-Jones, and the noble ...

Baroness Goldie | 815 cc437-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have added to my choreography before standing at the Dispatch Box: can I get a Polo m...

Lord Browne of Ladyton | 815 cc439-441GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for her response to this debate and, with the indulgence of the Committee, I...

Baroness Massey of Darwen | 815 c441GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Massey of Darwen

61: After Clause 18, insert the following new Clau...

Baroness Massey of Darwen | 815 cc441-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendments 61 and 62 consider the minimum age for recruitment into the UK Armed Forces....

Lord Lancaster of Kimbolton | 815 c442GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Baroness for giving way. She places significant importance on her rese...

Baroness Massey of Darwen | 815 cc442-4GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord. I shall mention this later. I have not visited that college myself. I kno...

Bishop of St Albans | 815 cc444-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to speak in support of Amendment 61 in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady Mass...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 815 cc445-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the last time I spoke on this issue was in support of my late noble friend Lord Judd, w...

Lord Russell of Liverpool | 815 cc447-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a great pleasure to support the amendment of my friend and fellow member of the P...

Lord Lancaster of Kimbolton | 815 cc448-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I oppose Amendment 61, which would effectively prohibit the enlistment of persons under...

Bishop of St Albans | 815 c449GC (Link to this contribution)

I would say that we are not asking our confirmation candidates to enter into armed conflict. It i...

Lord Lancaster of Kimbolton | 815 cc449-451GC (Link to this contribution)

That is a reasonable point, but none the less, the Church of England is actively targeting young ...

Lord Russell of Liverpool | 815 c451GC (Link to this contribution)

Well, perhaps he might respond as this is Committee stage. I pay tribute to the Army training, be...

Lord Lancaster of Kimbolton | 815 c452GC (Link to this contribution)

I think the evidence speaks for itself. I have attempted to outline some of that evidence, bearin...

Lord Browne of Ladyton | 815 cc452-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak to both amendments. I thank my noble friend Lady Massey of Darwen for tab...

Lord Browne of Ladyton | 815 c453GC (Link to this contribution)

I apologise, but I had not finished—it was a dramatic pregnant pause that misled the noble Barone...

Lord Browne of Ladyton | 815 c453GC (Link to this contribution)

It is not a preface. I want to turn to Amendment 62, for a couple of paragraphs. The amendment wo...

Baroness Smith of Newnham | 815 cc455-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I apologise for interrupting the dramatic pause of the noble Lord, Lord Browne of Ladyt...

Baroness Smith of Newnham | 815 c456GC (Link to this contribution)

I did sit down; I apologise.

On Amendment 62, like other noble Lords, I can see no justific...

Lord Coaker | 815 cc456-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am a bit nervous of standing up.

I will make some brief remarks, if noble Lords...

Baroness Goldie | 815 cc457-461GC (Link to this contribution)

First, I can say to all contributors that, wherever one comes from in relation to this debate, th...

Lord Browne of Ladyton | 815 c461GC (Link to this contribution)

On Amendment 62, can the Minister answer this deceptively simple question? Why do the Army, in th...

Baroness Goldie | 815 c461GC (Link to this contribution)

I think I can add nothing more to what I have already provided by way of an explanation for how t...

Baroness Massey of Darwen | 815 cc461-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have about 10 pages of notes here, which I shall go through very slowly. I joke, of c...

Baroness Goldie | 815 c463GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Goldie

67: Clause 24, page 38, line 21, at end insert—

“(ga) ...

Baroness Goldie | 815 c464GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Goldie

68: Clause 25, page 39, line 4, leave out “and” and insert—<...

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