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Scotland Act 1998 (Modification of Schedules 4 and 5 and Transfer of Functions to the Scottish Ministers etc.) Order 2015

Debates on delegated legislation on Thursday, 26 February 2015, in the House of Lords, led by Lord Wallace of Tankerness. The answering member was Lord McAvoy.
Lords motion to approve. Agreed to on question.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
759 cc1766-1798 
Session
2014-15
Department
Scotland Office
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Scotland Act 1998 (Modification of Schedules 4 and 5 and Transfer of Functions to the Scottish Ministers etc.) Order
Tuesday, 20 January 2015
Statutory instruments
House of Lords
House of Commons
Statutory Instruments Joint Committee twentieth report.
Wednesday, 28 January 2015
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
House of Commons
Secondary Legislation Scrutiny Committee twenty-fifth report.
Tuesday, 3 February 2015
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
Draft Scotland Act 1998 (Modification of Schedules 4 and 5 and Transfer of Functions to the Scottish Ministers etc) Order 2015. Constitution Committee (HL) ninth report.
Thursday, 12 February 2015
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 759 cc1766-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as the House well knows, on 18 September last year the people of Scotland, including te...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 759 c1767 (Link to this contribution)

I am most grateful to my noble and learned friend for giving way. The document to which he referr...


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Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 759 cc1767-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, that point was made by the Constitution Committee of your Lordships’ House, and I will ...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 759 c1769 (Link to this contribution)

My noble and learned friend is saying to the House that the reason that no supermajority provisio...

Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 759 cc1769-1771 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Government’s position has not changed. My noble friend will have heard that I said ...

Lord Lang of Monkton | 759 cc1771-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am most grateful to my noble and learned friend for setting out the arguments which t...

Lord Reid of Cardowan | 759 c1772 (Link to this contribution)

Notwithstanding whether noble Lords are wedded to a supermajority or opposed to the 16 age-limit ...

Lord Lang of Monkton | 759 cc1772-4 (Link to this contribution)

My responsibility is not to explain the Government’s position; my responsibility is to hold the G...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 759 c1774 (Link to this contribution)

I am most grateful to my noble friend for the excellent report his committee has produced. Did th...

Lord Lang of Monkton | 759 c1774 (Link to this contribution)

Again, my noble friend makes an extremely relevant point. The relationship between voting age and...

Lord Purvis of Tweed | 759 cc1774-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is a short measure, but one that I believe will have a very positive impact on our...

Lord Lexden | 759 c1775 (Link to this contribution)

Would my noble friend like to comment on a point that has already been made: namely, that if 16 y...

Lord Purvis of Tweed | 759 c1775 (Link to this contribution)

There are two aspects to that. The first is the desire of young people themselves. For many years...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 759 c1775 (Link to this contribution)

I am most grateful to my noble friend, but is he really arguing that 16 year-olds in Scotland sho...

Lord Purvis of Tweed | 759 cc1775-6 (Link to this contribution)

I am saying that there are differences in the rights and responsibilities of young people, and fo...

Lord Reid of Cardowan | 759 c1776 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my question did not concern the merits of a supermajority; I went out of my way to say,...

Lord Purvis of Tweed | 759 c1777 (Link to this contribution)

It is only an apparent change. The noble Lord considers it one, but in fact there is no change. T...

Lord Reid of Cardowan | 759 c1777 (Link to this contribution)

It is not about whether I agree with the merits of it; it is about the objective, factual positio...

Lord Purvis of Tweed | 759 c1777 (Link to this contribution)

I was referring, in my answer to his previous intervention, to the heads of agreement of the Smit...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 759 cc1777-1780 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, all I can say to the noble Lord, Lord Purvis, is that he must have been quite an extrao...

Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 759 c1780 (Link to this contribution)

My noble friend is seriously misinformed on this matter. If he looks at the Smith commission’s re...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 759 cc1780-1 (Link to this contribution)

In which case, why on earth are we still retaining the Barnett formula and allowing Scotland to r...

Lord Purvis of Tweed | 759 c1781 (Link to this contribution)

I am enjoying my noble friend’s contribution but, with regard to symbolism, I wonder which has th...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 759 c1781 (Link to this contribution)

I am sure the House will get cross with me if I go on much longer but, as the noble Lord has rais...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 759 c1782 (Link to this contribution)

I shall tell noble Lords the truth of the matter. I do not know if it has been made public before...

Lord Maxton | 759 c1782 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, can we assume that the noble Lord is agreeing with the idea of having a constitutional ...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 759 c1782 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Lord. As he knows, I do favour that. I believe that the Liberals favou...

Lord Tyler | 759 c1783 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my noble friend will be astonished to hear that I agree with him on one of the main poi...

Lord Cormack | 759 c1783 (Link to this contribution)

I apologise for intervening—I missed the first part of this debate—but I must make it plain that,...

Lord Tyler | 759 cc1783-5 (Link to this contribution)

I also enjoy my noble friend’s speeches, whether or not I agree with them, because he takes us ba...

Lord Empey | 759 cc1785-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Tyler, would like to hear views from people in other parts of the ...

Lord Reid of Cardowan | 759 c1786 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Lord for giving way. I just want to add something that he omitted. I r...

Lord Empey | 759 cc1786-7 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord, Lord Reid, has a very strong argument to make. The irony was that citizens from o...

Lord Stephen | 759 cc1787-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it seems to me that at times in this debate we have drifted some distance from the core...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 759 c1788 (Link to this contribution)

I am not sure whether the noble Lord is speaking for himself or for the Liberal party, but when h...

Lord Stephen | 759 cc1788-9 (Link to this contribution)

I am simply explaining my personal position, which is that of being sceptical about the need for ...

Lord Kilclooney | 759 c1789 (Link to this contribution)

When I was a Minister in Northern Ireland, in 1973 I introduced proportional representation in th...

Lord Stephen | 759 c1789 (Link to this contribution)

I am conscious that the noble Lord, Lord Reid of Cardowan, also wants to come in.

Lord Reid of Cardowan | 759 c1789 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Lord. Lest he unwittingly feeds the very headlines that he seems to fe...

Lord Stephen | 759 c1790 (Link to this contribution)

I am not suggesting that we do. I have supported this measure since becoming a councillor at the ...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 759 c1790 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord has characterised us as being opposed to votes for 16 year-olds. For myself, I thi...

Lord Stephen | 759 cc1790-1 (Link to this contribution)

I agree that there is great logic in the argument that has already been put forward in the exchan...

Lord Lexden | 759 c1791 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have listened with tremendous interest to this debate and with the utmost appreciatio...

Lord McAvoy | 759 cc1791-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, let me come to the aid of the Government. I have really enjoyed the debate and want it ...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 759 c1792 (Link to this contribution)

I am most grateful to the noble Lord. He seems to be making the case that there was no last-minut...

Lord McAvoy | 759 c1793 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord referred to the Daily Record. In a previous life he was not so keen on quoting the...

Lord Reid of Cardowan | 759 c1793 (Link to this contribution)

I do not wish to contradict anything my noble friend has said but perhaps we should clarify the d...

Lord McAvoy | 759 c1793 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my noble friend Lord Reid of Cardowan. I was coming to the Better Together campa...

Lord Lexden | 759 c1793 (Link to this contribution)

Given that there has been considerable comment about Gordon Brown, does the noble Lord endorse hi...

Lord McAvoy | 759 c1793 (Link to this contribution)

I have not studied them in detail so I am not quite sure. However, we are dealing with this measu...

Lord McAvoy | 759 c1794 (Link to this contribution)

Charles Kennedy, yes; what a time it was for Charles—a former member of the SDP, but there we are...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 759 c1794 (Link to this contribution)

On the subject of Gordon Brown, does the noble Lord, Lord McAvoy, agree with his repudiation of t...

Lord McAvoy | 759 c1794 (Link to this contribution)

This is not about what Gordon Brown says now. I cannot deal with a matter that Gordon Brown has n...

Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 759 cc1794-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have taken part in this robust and good natured debate. The...

Lord Maxton | 759 c1795 (Link to this contribution)

I wondered whether the Minister voted by post before the vow, like the noble Lord, Lord Forsyth, ...

Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 759 cc1795-6 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, I did. I voted out of sheer conviction that the right thing to do was maintain Scotland’s pl...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 759 c1796 (Link to this contribution)

I am most grateful to my noble friend. How on earth can he say it included the Scottish National ...

Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 759 cc1796-7 (Link to this contribution)

It is important to remember that the commission involved the Scottish National Party, which signe...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 759 c1797 (Link to this contribution)

I am most grateful to my noble friend. I may be mistaken, but I thought that the Government publi...

Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 759 cc1797-8 (Link to this contribution)

There is provision in the draft clauses for supermajorities covering a range of matters. The Smit...

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