UK Parliament / Open data

Enterprise and Regulatory Reform Bill

Debate on bills and Committee proceeding on Wednesday, 16 January 2013, in the House of Lords.
Clauses 63 and 64 agreed to. Schedules 18 and 20 agreed to. Schedule 19 agreed to as amended. New clause under consideration when Committee adjourned.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
742 cc241-306GC 
Session
2012-13
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords Grand Committee
Enterprise and Regulatory Reform Bill 2012-13. Brought from the Commons.
Thursday, 18 October 2012
Bills
House of Lords
Deposited Paper DEP2013-0170
Monday, 28 January 2013
Deposited papers
House of Lords
Deposited Paper DEP2013-0171
Monday, 28 January 2013
Deposited papers
House of Lords
Deposited Paper DEP2013-0433
Wednesday, 6 March 2013
Deposited papers
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 742 c241GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town

28ZH: After Clause 62, insert the following ...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 742 cc241-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is unfinished business for me. As the then chair of the Property Standards Board, ...


Show all contributions (115)
Baroness Gardner of Parkes | 742 cc244-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendment, but I do not think it goes far enough. I shall go on to talk a...

Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 742 cc246-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I wish to focus my remarks on the R-word—redress—rather more than on the regulation sid...

Lord Deben | 742 cc248-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the longer one has been in this House—or, indeed, in the House of Commons—the more one ...

Lord Sharkey | 742 c249GC (Link to this contribution)

I speak briefly and enthusiastically in support of Amendments 28ZH and 28ZJ. Other noble Lords ha...

Baroness Brinton | 742 c250GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I certainly will not rehearse the arguments—in fact I have torn up half of what I was g...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 742 cc250-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it may not surprise my noble friend Lord Deben that I do indeed have some speaking note...

Lord Lucas | 742 c252GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I recognise a Treasury reply when I see it. I should be most grateful if the noble Lord...

Baroness Gardner of Parkes | 742 c252GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we would all like to see that reply and I hope that it will be made readily available t...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 742 c252GC (Link to this contribution)

Not only will I be very pleased indeed to reply to a letter that I might receive but I would be d...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 742 cc252-3GC (Link to this contribution)

The Minister will not be surprised to know that the lady is not reassured. I thank the noble Lord...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 742 c253GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Viscount Younger of Leckie

28ZK: After Clause 63, insert the following new C...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 742 cc254-6GC (Link to this contribution)

The Agricultural Wages Board and Agricultural Wages Committees were set up in their current form ...

Lord Whitty | 742 cc256-260GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Minister must realise that this is a bit of a controversial item. That is not surpr...

Lord Plumb | 742 cc260-1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I declare an interest as a farmer and someone who has employed farm workers over a cons...

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 742 c261GC (Link to this contribution)

I hesitate to interrupt the noble Lord, who is such an authority on agriculture in this House, bu...

Lord Plumb | 742 cc261-2GC (Link to this contribution)

I am inclined to agree that the figure is not accurate. I was quoting from the NFU. I am not the ...

Lord Howarth of Newport | 742 cc262-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I always listen to the noble Lord, Lord Plumb, on matters of agriculture and, indeed, o...

Baroness Byford | 742 c263GC (Link to this contribution)

I would like to take the noble Lord, Lord Whitty, back to 2000 when we had a long debate on the C...

Lord Whitty | 742 c263GC (Link to this contribution)

Since we are going down this historic road with the noble Baroness, which I am delighted at, the ...

Baroness Byford | 742 cc263-4GC (Link to this contribution)

I perhaps would not agree with him because, if I can take him further along down memory lane, the...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 742 cc264-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, that was an interesting contribution from the noble Baroness, who speaks from experienc...

Earl Cathcart | 742 cc267-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, when these amendments came to my attention, my first rather tongue-in-cheek reaction wa...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 742 c268GC (Link to this contribution)

I am most grateful to the noble Earl for giving way. He has referred to the grade 1 rates, but he...

Earl Cathcart | 742 cc268-9GC (Link to this contribution)

If I may, I shall come on to that point later. As I was saying, the board cannot set the same rat...

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 742 c269GC (Link to this contribution)

Can the noble Earl square his estimation that no agricultural worker will lose any pay with the G...

Earl Cathcart | 742 c269GC (Link to this contribution)

I am not absolutely sure why—I can only give you my case—I would want to reduce their pay at all....

Lord Whitty | 742 c269GC (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry to pursue this point. The noble Earl may well be right in relation to his estate, but ...

Earl Cathcart | 742 cc269-270GC (Link to this contribution)

I am sure that the noble Lord will be interested to hear what the Minister says when he winds up....

Lord Myners | 742 c270GC (Link to this contribution)

I sense that the noble Earl is coming to the close of his comments. I want to remind him that he ...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 742 c270GC (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I can help my noble friend. I am referring to grades 1 to 6: grade 6 is the farm manageme...

Earl Cathcart | 742 c270GC (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord did raise a question and I did say that I would come back to it. This is all about...

Lord Myners | 742 cc270-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I welcome the Minister to his new role, although I feel rather sad for him that his deb...

Lord Deben | 742 c272GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I declare an interest as the owner of a very small amount of agricultural land. I am al...

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 742 c272GC (Link to this contribution)

I would like to revisit history very briefly. As I understand it, the wages councils for every ot...

Lord Deben | 742 c274GC (Link to this contribution)

First, I do not remember whether I was still there or not because it was the year in which I move...

Baroness Turner of Camden | 742 c274GC (Link to this contribution)

Is the noble Lord not aware that other employers in the industry feel very differently and find t...

Lord Deben | 742 c274GC (Link to this contribution)

I am sure that the noble Baroness would agree from her long history of trade union negotiations t...

Lord Deben | 742 c274GC (Link to this contribution)

I will certainly give way but—

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 742 c275GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord has mentioned me, and it would only be courtesy to let me—

Lord Deben | 742 c275GC (Link to this contribution)

I have made it quite clear that I will give way, but I should have a chance to finish my sentence...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 742 c275GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord for giving way because he mentioned me as the noble Lor...

Lord Deben | 742 cc275-6GC (Link to this contribution)

I have listened carefully to the noble Lord, as I have on other occasions, and I think that he is...

Lord Howarth of Newport | 742 c276GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Lord who knows my former constituency so much better than I and who in...

Lord Deben | 742 c276GC (Link to this contribution)

First, I think I did say that I could not remember whether the decision to do the wages board cam...

Lord Monks | 742 cc276-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I respond, as a former general secretary of the TUC, to that last remark about the trad...

Lord Cameron of Dillington | 742 cc278-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, first, I apologise for missing the first part of this debate. I am afraid that I was un...

Baroness Donaghy | 742 cc279-280GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was a member of the Low Pay Commission when it was first established, although I did ...

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 742 cc280-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we have had an excellent debate and heard the arguments very well put on both sides. I ...

Lord Deben | 742 c282GC (Link to this contribution)

Will the noble Lord give way on that point?

Lord Deben | 742 c283GC (Link to this contribution)

First, I hope that the noble Lord will explain to the Committee that there is a distinction betwe...

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 742 c283GC (Link to this contribution)

I am afraid that I disagree with the noble Lord about the unique nature of agriculture. It is rig...

Baroness Byford | 742 c283GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister for giving way.

Baroness Byford | 742 c283GC (Link to this contribution)

I apologise—too many years in opposition. I take the noble Lord up on the agricultural colleges a...

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 742 c283GC (Link to this contribution)

I mentioned agricultural colleges because I am not aware of another sector that has a specific ne...

Earl Cathcart | 742 c283GC (Link to this contribution)

I am not very good at employment law; I have to be frank about that. Are you saying that my man t...

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 742 c284GC (Link to this contribution)

I am most grateful to the noble Earl and his helpful intervention.

Under the national minim...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 742 c284GC (Link to this contribution)

Will my noble friend give way? I remind him of some of the evidence that came from the Duchy of C...

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 742 c284GC (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord makes a good point. He quotes evidence and I do not need to add to it.

I cou...

Earl Cathcart | 742 c284GC (Link to this contribution)

I thought that it had been established that 90% of farm workers are paid above grade 2 in the sca...

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 742 cc284-6GC (Link to this contribution)

The important thing to remember is that these legal entitlements for the agricultural sector appl...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 742 c286GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been a helpful and somewhat lengthy debate, which has included some passionate...

Lord Howarth of Newport | 742 c286GC (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister also be good enough to explain to the Committee why it is acceptable for the Go...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 742 c287GC (Link to this contribution)

I note the point that the noble Lord is making but I was addressing purely the issues relating to...

Lord Whitty | 742 c287GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister for confirming that one of the reasons for the change of tack by th...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 742 c287GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is not for me to say it is only that. This is an historical fact, and I was just set...

Lord Elis-Thomas | 742 c287GC (Link to this contribution)

I apologise; I have been unable to follow the whole debate, as I have been sitting in the Nationa...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 742 c287GC (Link to this contribution)

I note the noble Lord’s comment. I was not aware of that.

Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 742 c287GC (Link to this contribution)

It might be for the convenience of the Committee if I remind the Committee that the Companion say...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 742 cc287-8GC (Link to this contribution)

I will move on to the issues that have been raised about the consultation period. Several noble L...

Lord Howarth of Newport | 742 c288GC (Link to this contribution)

I apologise for troubling the Minister again, but would he also explain, because I think people i...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 742 c288GC (Link to this contribution)

I have to say that it was news to me—I have heard it today for the first time—that there was one ...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 742 c288GC (Link to this contribution)

With the greatest respect, I imagine that some of those people represented about 157,000 workers,...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 742 c289GC (Link to this contribution)

If the noble Lord prefers, I can get back to him—I will, indeed, get back to him—with more detail...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 742 c289GC (Link to this contribution)

With respect, it is not unusual for organisations to send notes to their members detailing change...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 742 c289GC (Link to this contribution)

With respect to the noble Lord, I did not say that I was discounting them. I was just producing s...

Lord Whitty | 742 c289GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, does that mean that the Government stand by the second impact assessment? If it does, i...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 742 c290GC (Link to this contribution)

The intervention of the noble Lord allows me to move on to focus on the impact assessment. I do n...

Lord Whitty | 742 c290GC (Link to this contribution)

To clarify, there is a range, but I am using a figure close to the best estimate which amounts to...

Baroness Buscombe | 742 c290GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister. I have been sitting here and slowly thinking to myself t...

Lord Myners | 742 c290GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Baroness for giving way. The Chairman has already read from the guidan...

Baroness Buscombe | 742 c290GC (Link to this contribution)

Good.

I remember so well that when the noble Lord, Lord Whitty, was in government, the Burn...

Lord Whitty | 742 c290GC (Link to this contribution)

I am quite happy to have another debate about hunting. I understand, however, that the Prime Mini...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 742 c291GC (Link to this contribution)

I will do my best to answer the noble Lord’s question. Our figures tell us that the impact assess...

Lord Myners | 742 c292GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Minister made what I thought was a rather unnecessary remark about the fact that I ...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 742 c292GC (Link to this contribution)

First, I apologise to the noble Lord. There was absolutely no derogatory comment intended.

...

Lord Myners | 742 c292GC (Link to this contribution)

There is nothing in the Agricultural Wages Board that in any way prevents a farmer from paying mo...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 742 cc292-3GC (Link to this contribution)

I think I should repeat to the noble Lord that the Agricultural Wages Board has been in existence...

Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 742 c293GC (Link to this contribution)

The Question is that Amendment 28ZK be agreed to. As many are of that opinion will say “Content”....

Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 742 c293GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, paragraph 8.103 of the Companion states:

“As divisions are not permitted in Grand...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 742 c293GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara

28ZKA: Schedule 18, page 244, line 12, at end in...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 742 cc293-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendments 28ZKB, 28ZKC, 28ZKD and 28ZKE which are in my name and...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 742 cc296-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the amendments seek to extend the role of the adjudicator introduced by Clause 63 of th...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 742 c297GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for that response. I sense within what he has said that he shares some of my...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 742 c299GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Viscount Younger of Leckie

28ZL: Schedule 19, page 248, line 14, at end inse...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 742 c299GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, these amendments make minor and technical changes to the Insolvency Act 1986 and relate...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 742 cc299-300GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have listened carefully to the Minister. I find that these proposals are in keeping w...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 742 c300GC (Link to this contribution)

I listened carefully to the noble Lord, Lord Stevenson, and I am very grateful to him for his ful...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 742 c301GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Viscount Younger of Leckie

28ZM: Schedule 19, page 248, line 18, at end inse...

Lord Lucas | 742 c302GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Lucas

28A: Before Clause 65, insert the following new Clause—

“Ow...

Lord Lucas | 742 cc302-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving the amendment, I wish to speak also to Amendment 28B.

Since I tabled th...

Lord Clement-Jones | 742 cc303-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it would be a shame not to savour the final quarter-hour of Committee today—although I ...

Baroness Buscombe | 742 c304GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to resist the amendment of my noble friend Lord Lucas and to support what my nob...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 742 c304GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not wish to detain the Committee, but I wish to thank the noble Lord for his intro...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 742 cc305-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is fair to say that, as a Scotsman, I do not do Christmas presents after Christmas. ...

Lord Lucas | 742 c306GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to my noble friend for his reply, and less grateful to my noble friends f...

Subjects
Back to top