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Crime and Courts Bill [HL]

Debate on bills on Tuesday, 18 December 2012, in the House of Lords, led by Lord Taylor of Holbeach.
Part 1 of 2.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
741 cc1466-1518 
Session
2012-13
Department
Home Office
Legislative stage
Third reading
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Crime and Courts Bill (HL) 2012-13. As amended on report.
Wednesday, 12 December 2012
Bills
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Lord Avebury | 741 cc1466-7 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Avebury

1: After Clause 20, insert the following new Clause—

“Imm...

Lord Avebury | 741 cc1467-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment provides that an appeal against a refusal of asylum by someone who has b...


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Lord Elton | 741 c1470 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, forgive me. I want to make, not a pre-emptive remark, but an introductory one. I apolog...

Lord Pannick | 741 c1470 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I understand that Amendment 5, to which I wish I speak, arises in particular out of con...

Baroness Butler-Sloss | 741 c1470 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I declare an interest as co-chair of the human trafficking parliamentary group. If ther...

Earl of Listowel | 741 c1470 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I would be most grateful if the Minister could clarify the position, raised by the nobl...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 741 c1471 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I see that the Minister is eager to respond, which I can well understand. I do not inte...

Lord Elton | 741 c1471 (Link to this contribution)

Lord Elton:

Before the noble Baroness sits down, I should say that the Clerk of the Parliam...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 741 c1471 (Link to this contribution)

Baroness Smith of Basildon:

I readily concede the noble Lord’s encyclopaedic knowledge of t...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 741 cc1472-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am sorry if my responses on Report failed to satisfy the House; I hope that I can sat...

Lord Avebury | 741 c1473 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am most grateful for the renewed support of the noble Lord, Lord Pannick, the noble a...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 741 c1474 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry but I did make it patently clear that there is no policy of waiting for people to leav...

Lord Avebury | 741 c1474 (Link to this contribution)

I know that my noble friend said that, but he did not respond to the point I made about the evide...

Baroness Meacher | 741 cc1474-5 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Meacher

2: After Clause 25, insert the following new Clause—

...

Baroness Meacher | 741 cc1475-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 2 seeks to provide some protection for vulnerable people who have suffered un...

Lord Lucas | 741 cc1476-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I should declare an interest as chair of the Enforcement Law Reform Group. As such, I c...

Lord Kirkwood of Kirkhope | 741 cc1478-9 (Link to this contribution)

I follow my noble friend Lord Lucas and concur with what he and the noble Baroness, Lady Meacher,...

Bishop of Lichfield | 741 cc1479-1480 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I too am glad to support the noble Baroness, Lady Meacher, and her amendment which seek...

Lord Cormack | 741 cc1480-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I came to listen and I do not think I have ever heard more powerful, convincing pleas f...

Earl of Listowel | 741 cc1481-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is hard to follow the eloquence and persuasiveness of the noble Lord, Lord Cormack. ...

Baroness Hamwee | 741 c1482 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, over the years I have been very much persuaded on this issue by those who have put forw...

Lord Beecham | 741 cc1482-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I raised the issue of bailiffs at Second Reading. I followed it up with a Written Quest...

Lord McNally | 741 cc1483-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, perhaps it will at least allow the Whips to send out the necessary message that I can m...

Baroness Meacher | 741 c1485 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all those who have spoken. I thank the noble Lords, Lord Lucas and Lord Cormack...

Lord Phillips of Worth Matravers | 741 c1485 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Phillips of Worth Matravers

3: Before Clause 27, insert the following n...

Lord Phillips of Worth Matravers | 741 cc1485-1491 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I apologise for the fact that I was not able to be present to move a similar amendment ...

Lord Pannick | 741 c1490 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, perhaps I may add two points to what the noble and learned Lord, Lord Phillips of Worth...

Lord Lloyd of Berwick | 741 cc1490-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, if your Lordships can bear a third lawyer in a row, I, too, would like to express my su...

Lord Goodhart | 741 (Link to this contribution)

Lord Goodhart:

My Lords, I am going to take a rather unusual position on this and say that ...

Baroness Butler-Sloss | 741 c1492 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, although this may seem to be a technical point to some Members of the House, it is actu...

Lord Goldsmith | 741 cc1493-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am the first Member to speak to this amendment who was a member of the Government at ...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 741 c1494 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I strongly supported, as did my party, the separation of the traditional branch from th...

Lord Woolf | 741 cc1494-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I add my voice to those who support this amendment. I do so with diffidence, because it...

Baroness Jay of Paddington | 741 cc1495-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I think I am the first non-lawyer to contribute, very briefly, to this debate. I see th...

Lord Brown of Eaton-under-Heywood | 741 c1496 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I, too, feel compelled to say just a word in support of this amendment. I support it fo...

Lord Beecham | 741 cc1496-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I speak with diffidence as, I think, the ninth lawyer to speak in this debate—albeit fr...

Lord Butler of Brockwell | 741 c1497 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hesitate to intervene in the debate when so many distinguished members of the judicia...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 741 c1497 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord’s memory is correct. Does he remember that consideration of arguments of the kind ...

Lord Butler of Brockwell | 741 c1497 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, I remember those arguments well. The issue is to what extent the Government—the Executive—sh...

Lord McNally | 741 cc1498-1500 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I often think how well served we are by the depth and richness of the judicial talent t...

Lord Phillips of Worth Matravers | 741 c1500 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to those who have supported the amendment and to the Minister for the exq...

Lord Bradley | 741 cc1500-1 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bradley

4: After Clause 29, insert the following new Clause—

“Pro...

Lord Bradley | 741 cc1501-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will not detain the House long on this new clause, as there was a good debate on the ...

Lord Ramsbotham | 741 c1502 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I put my name to this amendment for two reasons. The first was that earlier in the work...

Earl of Listowel | 741 cc1502-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support this amendment. More than 60% of children in the youth justice system have co...

Baroness Linklater of Butterstone | 741 c1503 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support my noble friend—he is my noble friend although he is on the other side of the...

Baroness Kennedy of the Shaws | 741 c1503 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it comes as a sort of alarm to hear the noble Lord, Lord Ramsbotham, indicate that ther...

Lord Beecham | 741 c1504 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I take the Government’s point about resources, but as my noble friend rightly points ou...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 741 cc1504-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I must admit that, as I listened to the debate, time stopped for a moment when I saw th...

Lord Ramsbotham | 741 c1505 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I wonder whether the Minister could answer a question about the increase in the number ...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 741 c1506 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord raises an important point and, with the permission of the House, the Minister will...

Lord Bradley | 741 c1506 (Link to this contribution)

It is disappointing that between Report and Third Reading the Government have not reached the con...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 741 c1506 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames

6: Schedule 13, page 218, line 11, at end ins...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 741 cc1506-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I spoke on the topic of judicial diversity at some length on Report and I shall not det...

Lord McNally | 741 cc1507-8 (Link to this contribution)

I do not wish to pre-empt or shorten the debate, but it might help if I were to say something her...

Baroness Jay of Paddington | 741 c1508 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my name is not on this amendment but I have spoken several times on this subject during...

Lord Pannick | 741 c1508 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I, too, am very grateful to the Minister for bringing forward Amendment 8. It is import...

Baroness Prashar | 741 c1508 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I, too, welcome this amendment and thank the Minister for accepting the arguments. The ...

Baroness Benjamin | 741 c1508 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I would not normally speak in a debate such as this, but this matter is very close to m...

Baroness Neuberger | 741 c1509 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as noble Lords know, I chaired the Advisory Panel on Judicial Diversity a couple of yea...

Lord Beecham | 741 c1509 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Opposition are delighted to join in this outbreak of consensus and congratulate the...

Lord McNally | 741 c1509 (Link to this contribution)

Given those interventions I wish only to quote somebody who never made it to this House and say t...

Lord Beecham | 741 c1509 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps the Minister would care to fortify himself before these debates in the same way that Mr C...

Lord McNally | 741 c1509 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord McNally

8: Schedule 13, page 218, line 24, at end insert—

“Encour...

Lord Woolf | 741 cc1509-1510 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Woolf

9: Schedule 15, page 268, line 6, at end insert—

“Part 6A

Lord Woolf | 741 cc1510-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I begin by disclosing an interest in respect of this amendment as chairman of the Priso...

Baroness Corston | 741 c1511 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I congratulate the noble and learned Lord, Lord Woolf, on tabling this amendment, for w...

Lord Ramsbotham | 741 cc1511-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I echo everything that my noble and learned friend Lord Woolf has said. That is why I h...

Baroness Kennedy of the Shaws | 741 cc1512-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I too support this amendment. Those who work at the front line with women who come befo...

Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 741 c1513 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as someone who has put her name to amendment after amendment on this issue of why on ea...

Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 741 cc1513-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hope I will be forgiven if I contribute briefly to this debate because I have taken l...

Earl of Listowel | 741 c1514 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as we have heard, many of these women will, as children, have been abused in their own ...

Lord Rosser | 741 cc1514-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, given that this is Third Reading, I will attempt to be reasonably brief. I want to talk...

Lord McNally | 741 cc1516-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we are soon to be passing the three-hour limit for these debates at Third Reading. A re...

Lord Woolf | 741 c1518 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank those who have spoken in favour of the amendment and all those who have taken p...

Lord McNally | 741 c1518 (Link to this contribution)

I can only make one last appeal to the noble and learned Lord. Does he really think that it will ...

Lord McNally | 741 c1518 (Link to this contribution)

It is no use saying “shame”. There is no division between us, and to suggest that there is does n...

Lord Woolf | 741 c1518 (Link to this contribution)

Well, of course, I listen very attentively to what the Minister says, but perhaps he will forgive...

Lord Ramsbotham | 741 c1518 (Link to this contribution)

Tabled by

Lord Ramsbotham

10: Schedule 15, page 270, line 24, at end insert—

“P...

Lord Ramsbotham | 741 c1518 (Link to this contribution)

I listened with care to what was said, particularly on the question of resources. I think that in...

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