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Situation in the Red Sea

Debate on Wednesday, 24 January 2024, in the House of Commons, led by Grant Shapps. The answering members were John Healey and Andrew Mitchell.
Motion that this House has considered the situation in the Red Sea. Agreed to on question.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
744 cc348-404 
Session
2023-24
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Defence and international affairs
Friday, 19 January 2024
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Proceeding contributions
Grant Shapps | 744 c349 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move,

That this House has considered the situation in the Red Sea.

Last week...

Bob Seely | 744 c349 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate my right hon. Friend on his recent speech. According to the House of Commons Libra...


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Grant Shapps | 744 c349 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right; he is something of an expert in this area. Iran is absolutely...

Anthony Mangnall | 744 c350 (Link to this contribution)

I apologise for interrupting the Defence Secretary. On the shipping side of things, there has bee...

Grant Shapps | 744 c350 (Link to this contribution)

As ever, my hon. Friend raises an excellent point. That is what Operation Prosperity Guardian is ...

Mark Francois | 744 c350 (Link to this contribution)

I completely support the Government’s action, which is totally in accordance with international l...

Grant Shapps | 744 cc350-1 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend has been very solid on these issues, which he and I have spoken about in the...

Alicia Kearns | 744 c351 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my right hon. Friend for his contribution and for all he has been doing over the past few...

Grant Shapps | 744 cc351-3 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend, with her immense experience and perspective as Chair of the Foreign Affairs Commi...

John Healey | 744 c353 (Link to this contribution)

Today the House was set to debate the full sweep of defence and international affairs until the c...

James Gray | 744 c353 (Link to this contribution)

In the old days—I have been here a long time—we had debates in Government time on defence, as we ...

John Healey | 744 c353 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman has great experience and he is right to say that Government time signals the i...

Andy Slaughter | 744 c353 (Link to this contribution)

We have also not had a debate since 7 October on Israel and Palestine, which is extraordinary. Th...

John Healey | 744 c353 (Link to this contribution)

At the risk of sounding a bit like the shadow Leader of the House responding to a business questi...

Ian Blackford | 744 c353 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the right hon. Member for his remarks about Ukraine. It is important, in the context of e...

John Healey | 744 c354 (Link to this contribution)

I, for one, appreciated the right hon. Gentleman’s leadership of his party when Putin invaded Ukr...

Julian Lewis | 744 c354 (Link to this contribution)

One way in which one can stretch the terms of the debate a little further than its precise wordin...

John Healey | 744 c354 (Link to this contribution)

One other way of stretching the limits of a tightly drawn debate is experienced interventions of ...

John Healey | 744 c354 (Link to this contribution)

What do I think? Well, it would be helpful to have access to the sort of classified information t...

Bob Seely | 744 c354 (Link to this contribution)

At this juncture, I think it worth pointing out—the Secretary of State may want to refer to this—...

John Healey | 744 cc355-7 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman has insights into the situation that are rare, even in this House, from his ow...

Nigel Evans | 744 c357 (Link to this contribution)

I call the Chair of the Foreign Affairs Committee.

4.3 pm

Alicia Kearns | 744 cc357-8 (Link to this contribution)

While much of this debate will rightly focus on the rationale, execution and objectives of the re...

Alec Shelbrooke | 744 c358 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making some very important points. It is worth mentioning that one of the other...

Alicia Kearns | 744 cc358-360 (Link to this contribution)

It is no surprise that my right hon. Friend makes an important point. Whether it is blocking aid,...

Ian Blackford | 744 c361 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady is outlining the scale of the challenge and the threats we face, and not just in pa...

Alicia Kearns | 744 cc361-3 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the right hon. Member—my friend—who is always generous in his thoughts and contributions ...

Martin Docherty-Hughes | 744 cc363-4 (Link to this contribution)

It is always good to follow the Chair of the Foreign Affairs Committee, the hon. Member for Rutla...

Alec Shelbrooke | 744 c364 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Martin Docherty-Hughes | 744 c364 (Link to this contribution)

I will, briefly, but I want to move on quickly.

Alec Shelbrooke | 744 c364 (Link to this contribution)

I just want to probe the hon. Gentleman slightly on his comments about the west not being involve...

Martin Docherty-Hughes | 744 cc364-5 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Gentleman makes an interesting point. Perhaps he should refer to what was said by ...

Martin Docherty-Hughes | 744 c365 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way to my right hon. Friend.

Julian Lewis | 744 c365 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful, and I regard him as my hon. Friend too. Before he leaves the issue of percentages ...

Martin Docherty-Hughes | 744 cc365-7 (Link to this contribution)

I both agree and disagree. Had the Ministry made sustained investment in capability, we might not...

Nigel Evans | 744 c366 (Link to this contribution)

Order. As Members can see, 14 Members wish to participate in this debate. Although I am trying no...

Alec Shelbrooke | 744 cc366-9 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker.

I have to say that I was disappointed by the approach the hon...

Andy Slaughter | 744 cc369-370 (Link to this contribution)

The freedom of navigation, maritime security and upholding international law are fundamental prin...

Layla Moran | 744 c370 (Link to this contribution)

On international law, let us face it: international humanitarian law is the last resort, when oth...

Andy Slaughter | 744 c370 (Link to this contribution)

I think I always agree with the hon. Member on this issue, if not on others. She has clear person...

Debbie Abrahams | 744 c370 (Link to this contribution)

We have just had a debate in Westminster Hall on human rights, and Gaza came up. During the debat...

Andy Slaughter | 744 cc370-1 (Link to this contribution)

I also agree with my hon. Friend.

The deaths that continue to occur daily in Gaza have so f...

Nigel Evans | 744 c371 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I have given the hon. Member a lot of latitude, as he is focused on one aspect, but the de...

Andy Slaughter | 744 cc371-2 (Link to this contribution)

I should have taken your advice, Mr Deputy Speaker, rather than the advice of the shadow Defence ...

James Gray | 744 cc372-3 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate the hon. Member for Hammersmith (Andy Slaughter) on a very wide-ranging speech, al...

James Gray | 744 c373 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend disagrees with me.

Julian Lewis | 744 c373 (Link to this contribution)

I am afraid I do. I agree with my hon. Friend’s main thrust, that there is no doubt that the Prim...

James Gray | 744 c374 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend makes an interesting point: he thinks we should not have had strikes against...

Andrew Mitchell | 744 c374 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps both my hon. Friend and my right hon. Friend the Member for New Forest East (Sir Julian L...

James Gray | 744 c374 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend makes an extremely good point. Incidentally, I forgot to mention that I very...

Bob Seely | 744 c374 (Link to this contribution)

Will my hon. Friend give way?

James Gray | 744 c374 (Link to this contribution)

We must not get too far off the subject, but of course.

Bob Seely | 744 c374 (Link to this contribution)

I think I support what my hon. Friend says. Of the two times we voted on military action, the fir...

James Gray | 744 cc374-5 (Link to this contribution)

Both my hon. Friend and my right hon. Friend the Member for New Forest East (Sir Julian Lewis) ar...

James Gray | 744 c375 (Link to this contribution)

Well, I am trying to wind up, but yes, of course.

Alec Shelbrooke | 744 c375 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend mentioned the world becoming a more dangerous place. We have known throughout the ...

James Gray | 744 c375 (Link to this contribution)

I am not certain that my right hon. Friend, whom, incidentally, I congratulate on his knighthood,...

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 744 c375 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I am getting slightly anxious about time. My advice is that colleagues stick to a maximum ...

Jeff Smith | 744 cc375-7 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker—you will be pleased to know that I intend to be brief. Originally...

Liam Fox | 744 cc377-8 (Link to this contribution)

I begin by paying tribute to all of our armed forces personnel who have been involved in action i...

Bob Seely | 744 c378 (Link to this contribution)

The answer that the Government have so far given on the IRGC is that it is an arm of the state, a...

Liam Fox | 744 cc378-9 (Link to this contribution)

It is an answer, but it is not a very convincing one. I hope we will get a better answer from the...

Layla Moran | 744 cc379-381 (Link to this contribution)

It is an honour to follow the right hon. Member for North Somerset (Sir Liam Fox), because I agre...

Flick Drummond | 744 cc381-3 (Link to this contribution)

It is an honour to follow the hon. Member for Oxford West and Abingdon (Layla Moran). She spoke w...

Ian Blackford | 744 cc383-5 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Meon Valley (Mrs Drummond). I hope the Minister an...

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 744 c385 (Link to this contribution)

I remind Members of my eight minute guidance.

5.49 pm

Bob Seely | 744 cc385-7 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker; I will try to wind up after seven minutes. I am mindful that lot...

John McDonnell | 744 cc387-9 (Link to this contribution)

I fully agree with the last point made by the hon. Member for Isle of Wight (Bob Seely). We need ...

John McDonnell | 744 c389 (Link to this contribution)

If the hon. Gentleman does not mind, I am going to try to keep within the time if I can.

Re...

Richard Drax | 744 cc389-390 (Link to this contribution)

I will keep to time, Madam Deputy Speaker, as two hon. Friends will give me a seven-minute bell.<...

James Sunderland | 744 c390 (Link to this contribution)

On that point, will my hon. Friend give way?

Richard Drax | 744 c390 (Link to this contribution)

I will keep going, if I may, because we are getting to the end of the debate and others want to s...

Richard Drax | 744 c391 (Link to this contribution)

I will, if I may, just keep going. Forgive me, but I do not want to go over my time.

This d...

Wera Hobhouse | 744 cc391-2 (Link to this contribution)

Undoubtedly, it is our duty to protect freedom of navigation not only for our own self-interest, ...

Kenny MacAskill | 744 cc392-4 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to take what is obviously a minority view in the Chamber, given the views of Members from ...

Richard Foord | 744 cc394-5 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Government for granting the debate, and to the Defence Secretary for setting...

James Gray | 744 c395 (Link to this contribution)

There are two problems with retrospective votes. The first is that the action would already have ...

Richard Foord | 744 c395 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for his questions. I intend to set out in my contributions th...

James Gray | 744 c396 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Richard Foord | 744 c396 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way at the end, if I may.

What sets the UK and our western allies apart is that...

James Gray | 744 c396 (Link to this contribution)

Let us imagine that the strikes have happened—as they did last week and earlier this week—and tha...

Richard Foord | 744 c396 (Link to this contribution)

The point of a retrospective vote is that it gives guidance to the Prime Minister and the Foreign...

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 744 c396 (Link to this contribution)

Before I call the shadow Minister, I am concerned that not everybody who has contributed to the d...

Wayne David | 744 cc396-7 (Link to this contribution)

We have had an excellent debate. It is true that it has been wide-ranging on occasions, but it ha...

Wayne David | 744 c397 (Link to this contribution)

I will make no comment about that.

This debate is seriously important because, as I think w...

Richard Drax | 744 c397 (Link to this contribution)

On the point about voting, which I think is ridiculous, during the bad period of the second world...

Wayne David | 744 cc397-8 (Link to this contribution)

I am sure that Members have noted the hon. Gentleman’s comment, and am sure that when we have a d...

Liam Fox | 744 c398 (Link to this contribution)

I am extremely grateful to the hon. Gentleman for giving way. For the sake of completeness, would...

Wayne David | 744 cc398-9 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Gentleman makes a very important point, which reinforces the essential point that ...

Andrew Mitchell | 744 c399 (Link to this contribution)

This has been a thoughtful debate and, I think, a united one, and I will endeavour to respond to ...

James Gray | 744 c399 (Link to this contribution)

Does my right hon. Friend not accept that His Majesty’s Government have an absolute duty to provi...

Andrew Mitchell | 744 cc399-400 (Link to this contribution)

No, no—I completely accept what my hon. Friend is saying. I am just pointing out that the reform ...

Rehman Chishti | 744 c400 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend was covering the point about the United Kingdom Government’s strategy to deg...

Andrew Mitchell | 744 c400 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend will understand that we would not give a running commentary to the House on the is...

Andrew Mitchell | 744 cc400-1 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way in a moment; I just want to finish dealing with the comments by the shadow Secret...

Andrew Mitchell | 744 c401 (Link to this contribution)

Before I do that, I shall give way to my right hon. Friend.

Julian Lewis | 744 c401 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is, as always, the model of courtesy. For the avoidance of any lingering dou...

Andrew Mitchell | 744 c401 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend was absolutely right to detect the supportive view of the Secretary of State...

James Sunderland | 744 c401 (Link to this contribution)

As a former serviceman, I have a simple view that quantity has a quality all of its own. Can the ...

Andrew Mitchell | 744 cc401-2 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend will have heard the Prime Minister’s words explaining what the strategy is and how...

Martin Docherty-Hughes | 744 c402 (Link to this contribution)

There has been concern about the change of registration for vessels going through the Red sea, no...

Andrew Mitchell | 744 c402 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman asks me a detailed question, and the Secretaries of State for Transport and fo...

Liam Fox | 744 c402 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend will recall that I have asked on several occasions why Iran Air is still fly...

Andrew Mitchell | 744 cc402-3 (Link to this contribution)

I will ensure that my right hon. Friend has a detailed answer on where we stand on both those iss...

Richard Foord | 744 c403 (Link to this contribution)

What about the situation of retrospective approval?

Andrew Mitchell | 744 c403 (Link to this contribution)

I think that was the point he raised, which my hon. Friend the Member for North Wiltshire answere...

Richard Drax | 744 c403 (Link to this contribution)

I did ask why the aircraft carriers are not being used in the Red sea, and I would be grateful if...

Andrew Mitchell | 744 cc403-4 (Link to this contribution)

The use of the aircraft carriers, one of which is heading to a NATO exercise anyway, will be kept...

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