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Lifelong Learning (Higher Education Fee Limits) Bill

Debate on bills on Monday, 27 February 2023, in the House of Commons, led by Gillian Keegan. The answering members were Robert Halfon and Matt Western.
Second reading. Agreed to on question. Programme motion on committal, proceedings in Public Bill Committee, consideration and third reading, and other proceedings. Agreed to on question.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
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Session
2022-23
Legislative stage
Second reading
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Lifelong Learning (Higher Education Fee Limits) Bill 2022-23
Wednesday, 1 February 2023
Bills
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
Gillian Keegan | 728 c527 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time.

Everyone has a different reason for...

Jim Shannon | 728 c527 (Link to this contribution)

I applaud the Secretary of State for presenting a Bill which I think everyone in the House will w...


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Gillian Keegan | 728 c527 (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely. I can assure the hon. Gentleman of that, as someone who went to a comprehensive schoo...

Tom Hunt | 728 c527 (Link to this contribution)

I, too, applaud my right hon. Friend’s educational support for people throughout their adult live...

Gillian Keegan | 728 c528 (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely. It is important that lifelong learning continues to be accessible to many people. Sad...

Flick Drummond | 728 c528 (Link to this contribution)

We are talking about lifelong learning, but we are now expecting people to work until they are 67...

Gillian Keegan | 728 c528 (Link to this contribution)

Subject to the consultation, there will be. I think that there are some age limits at the top end...

Aaron Bell | 728 c528 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend was just talking about a fair price and a new method for calculating a maxim...

Gillian Keegan | 728 cc528-9 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, there have been occasions when some people may have felt that the value of the course they w...

Flick Drummond | 728 c529 (Link to this contribution)

What about carers? Will they still be entitled to carer’s allowance while they study?

Gillian Keegan | 728 c529 (Link to this contribution)

I am afraid my hon. Friend is a little ahead of me. This is a subject of the consultation, to whi...

Aaron Bell | 728 c530 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome the commitment to four years because, to follow up on my earlier intervention, some peo...

Gillian Keegan | 728 cc530-1 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, absolutely. That is why we sometimes see people take a level 4 or 5 apprenticeship course af...

Lindsay Hoyle | 728 c531 (Link to this contribution)

I call the shadow Minister.

4.2 pm

Matt Western | 728 cc531-5 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the Secretary of State. I share a lot of her view on the importance of...

Robin Walker | 728 cc535-6 (Link to this contribution)

I very much welcome the Second Reading of this important legislation and the broad principle of e...

David Johnston | 728 c536 (Link to this contribution)

I am very much enjoying hearing about my hon. Friend’s father’s views, and I look forward to read...

Robin Walker | 728 c536 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right: there are those who perhaps did not relish being in the class...

Aaron Bell | 728 c536 (Link to this contribution)

Like my hon. Friend the Member for Wantage (David Johnston), I am very interested in my hon. Frie...

Robin Walker | 728 cc536-7 (Link to this contribution)

I do, and I think that that point has been well made from both sides of the House. With the fourt...

Munira Wilson | 728 cc537-540 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the Chairman of the Education Select Committee, the hon. Member for Wo...

David Johnston | 728 c538 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady is making an interesting case, but does she accept that some people do not want fur...

Munira Wilson | 728 cc538-541 (Link to this contribution)

I see where the hon. Gentleman is coming from, but equally, we are ambitious about making sure th...

David Evennett | 728 cc541-2 (Link to this contribution)

It is a great pleasure to be able to participate in this Second Reading debate. I should begin by...

Aaron Bell | 728 c542 (Link to this contribution)

I am learning a lot about my right hon. Friend’s history, which I am finding very interesting. On...

David Evennett | 728 cc542-4 (Link to this contribution)

I totally agree with my hon. Friend, who makes a very important point.

Lifelong learning is...

Aaron Bell | 728 c544 (Link to this contribution)

On high quality, does my right hon. Friend recognise, from the independent Wolf review, that at l...

David Evennett | 728 c544 (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely. I would also highlight the £490 million in extra funding that the Government are deli...

Robin Walker | 728 c544 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is making an excellent speech. I could not resist the opportunity to welcome...

David Evennett | 728 cc544-5 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes a brilliant point. I think we would all agree that what we need is upgrading...

Julian Lewis | 728 c545 (Link to this contribution)

I obviously welcome that the fees charged will be limited, but I presume that the colleges will b...

David Evennett | 728 c545 (Link to this contribution)

I know that my right hon. Friend has a touch of cynicism. I am an optimist, and I believe that th...

Peter Aldous | 728 cc545-9 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for being called to speak in this important debate. The Bill is somewhat technical ...

Aaron Bell | 728 cc548-551 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow my hon. Friend the Member for Waveney (Peter Aldous) and to speak in w...

Julian Lewis | 728 c551 (Link to this contribution)

I recall some of these debates and it was predicted at the time that the universities, in particu...

Aaron Bell | 728 cc551-4 (Link to this contribution)

I am not sure whether my right hon. Friend was in the Chamber earlier when I intervened on the Se...

David Johnston | 728 cc554-5 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow my hon. Friends the Members for Newcastle-under-Lyme (Aaron Bell) and ...

Rehman Chishti | 728 c555 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes an important point about the influencers —be they teachers or parents—who in...

David Johnston | 728 cc555-6 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes an important point. I do not know enough about why those universities have b...

Aaron Bell | 728 c556 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend speaks with great authority on these matters. I completely agree with his point ab...

David Johnston | 728 c556 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes another important point, and it leads me incredibly nicely to the point that...

Julian Lewis | 728 c556 (Link to this contribution)

I thoroughly endorse the direction of my hon. Friend’s thoughtful argument. Does he agree that, e...

David Johnston | 728 cc557-8 (Link to this contribution)

I completely agree with my right hon. Friend. Part of the reason why that has happened is that yo...

Barry Sheerman | 728 c558 (Link to this contribution)

I came into the Chamber after the hon. Gentleman had started his very good speech, so I hope he w...

David Johnston | 728 cc558-9 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for his intervention. I am a politician, so I would never try...

Siobhan Baillie | 728 cc559-560 (Link to this contribution)

It is an absolute pleasure to follow my hon. Friend the Member for Wantage (David Johnston), who ...

Aaron Bell | 728 c560 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that some of the contributions about debt, particularly, I regret to sa...

Siobhan Baillie | 728 cc560-2 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. When we look into how these things work, we see that it is no...

Nigel Evans | 728 c561 (Link to this contribution)

We now come to the wind-ups. I call the shadow Minister.

6.1 pm

Matt Western | 728 cc561-3 (Link to this contribution)

I have benefited from training courses and adult education throughout my career, as I am sure man...

Robert Halfon | 728 c563 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the shadow spokesman for the Labour party, the hon. Member for Warwick and Leamington (Ma...

Matt Western | 728 c563 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister is a decent individual, so I ask that we have sufficient time to consider the respon...

Robert Halfon | 728 cc563-5 (Link to this contribution)

I repeat that the consultation will definitely be ready by Report stage, if not before; I guarant...

David Evennett | 728 c566 (Link to this contribution)

Does the Minister agree that the Bill will be transformational? By enabling people to change care...

Robert Halfon | 728 c566 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend, who made a brilliant speech, is absolutely right. We will also be resourcin...

Alun Cairns | 728 c566 (Link to this contribution)

Will my right hon. Friend give way? [Interruption.]

Robert Halfon | 728 c566 (Link to this contribution)

I just want to answer some other questions that the Labour spokesman asked first.

To be cle...

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 728 c566 (Link to this contribution)

Order. Could I ask Members to be quiet, because we cannot hear what the Minister is saying and he...

Robert Halfon | 728 c566 (Link to this contribution)

We will keep the student finance system under review to ensure it is delivering value for money b...

Alun Cairns | 728 c566 (Link to this contribution)

I am hugely grateful to my right hon. Friend for giving way. Clearly, this is a devolved area of ...

Robert Halfon | 728 c566 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend makes an important point. We will be able to explain further once the consul...

Robin Walker | 728 c566 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend will know that the difference between the Report and Committee stages can of...

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 728 c567 (Link to this contribution)

Order. Once again, there are clearly important interventions being made. I am sure right hon. and...

Robert Halfon | 728 c567 (Link to this contribution)

Of course I will consider the representations made by my hon. Friend the Member for Worcester and...

Oliver Heald | 728 c567 (Link to this contribution)

Does my right hon. Friend agree that as we look to educate people perhaps in middle age into new ...

Robert Halfon | 728 c567 (Link to this contribution)

That is exactly what the Government’s programme is doing. We are investing in employer-led qualif...

Mike Penning | 728 c567 (Link to this contribution)

As people look to retrain in later life, can we ensure that our armed forces have the support the...

Robert Halfon | 728 c567 (Link to this contribution)

The beauty of the Bill is that it will enable anyone to retrain and do long courses, short course...

Gary Sambrook | 728 c567 (Link to this contribution)

Does the Minister agree that as well as the Bill and Government support, the £6.6 million of inve...

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 728 c567 (Link to this contribution)

Order. Once again it is getting very noisy, and we are not able to hear the Minister’s answers. I...

Michael Fabricant | 728 c567 (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. I wonder whether you could make an inquiry into whethe...

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 728 c567 (Link to this contribution)

I think the situation would be helped—I can still hear a lot of noise, even when I am speaking—[I...

Robert Halfon | 728 c568 (Link to this contribution)

I absolutely agree with my hon. Friend the Member for Birmingham, Northfield (Gary Sambrook). He ...

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