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Strength of the UK’s Armed Forces

Opposition day on Wednesday, 14 April 2021, in the House of Commons, led by John Healey. The answering member was James Heappey.
Nineteenth opposition day debate (part two). Motion that this House notes the Prime Minister's 2019 election pledge that his Government would not cut the Armed Services in any form; further notes with concern the threat assessment in the Integrated Review of Security, Defence, Development and Foreign Policy, that threats from other states to the UK and its allies are growing and diversifying; calls on the Government to rethink its plan set out in the Defence Command Paper, published in March 2021, CP 411, to reduce key defence capabilities and reduce the strength of the Armed Forces, including a further reduction in the size of the Army by 2025; and calls on the Prime Minister to make an oral statement to Parliament by June 30 2021 on the Government's plans to reduce the capability and strength of the Armed Forces. Negatived on division (256 to 357).
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
692 cc378-427 
Session
2019-21
Department
Ministry of Defence
Procedure
Proxy voting
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Strength of the UK’s armed forces
Tuesday, 13 April 2021
Research briefings
Proceeding contributions
John Healey | 692 cc383-4 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move,

That this House notes the Prime Minister’s 2019 election pledge that his Gov...

Bernard Jenkin | 692 c384 (Link to this contribution)

I have some sympathy for the right hon. Gentleman’s position, because when I was the shadow Secre...


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John Healey | 692 c384 (Link to this contribution)

Sadly we are nowhere near another election at this point. We are at this stage in the parliamenta...

Lord Spellar | 692 c384 (Link to this contribution)

Would my right hon. Friend care to remind the hon. Member for somewhere in Essex—the hon. Member ...

John Healey | 692 c384 (Link to this contribution)

I would, but my right hon. Friend has just done so for me; I am pleased that it is on the record....

Lord Beamish | 692 c385 (Link to this contribution)

Will my right hon. Friend give way?

John Healey | 692 c385 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way one more time, but then—conscious that nearly 40 Back-Bench Members wish to speak...

Lord Beamish | 692 c385 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Member for Harwich and North Essex (Sir Bernard Jenkin) mentioned budgets, but is not it...

John Healey | 692 cc385-7 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is right, of course. There has been an £8 billion real-terms cut to the defe...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 692 c387 (Link to this contribution)

Before I call the Minister, I should tell the House that there will be an initial time limit on B...

James Heappey | 692 c387 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the shadow Secretary of State for the tribute he paid to the Duke of Edinburgh—one with w...

Tobias Ellwood | 692 c387 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend talks about adapting to the threat. We have the technological advantage in Afghani...

James Heappey | 692 c387 (Link to this contribution)

As the shadow Secretary of State noted, my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State is not able t...

Lord Spellar | 692 c388 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister was slightly dismissive of looking at the arrays of traditional vehicles. What does ...

James Heappey | 692 c388 (Link to this contribution)

If the right hon. Gentleman will allow, I will make some progress with my speech, because I had f...

Jim Shannon | 692 c388 (Link to this contribution)

I know that the Minister is a friend of Northern Ireland, but recruitment in Northern Ireland has...

James Heappey | 692 c389 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is entirely right that Northern Ireland is a rich recruiting ground for people...

Bob Stewart | 692 c389 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister has outlined a concept predicated on the armed forces fighting an all-out war—a war ...

James Heappey | 692 cc389-390 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my right hon. and gallant Friend for his intervention, but I do not agree with his analys...

Tobias Ellwood | 692 c390 (Link to this contribution)

I need to clarify the difference between what the rangers will do and what our Royal Marines do, ...

James Heappey | 692 cc390-2 (Link to this contribution)

I am afraid that my right hon. Friend is not right in what he thinks the rangers will do. The dis...

Stewart Malcolm McDonald | 692 cc392-5 (Link to this contribution)

I join the Minister and the shadow Secretary of State, the right hon. Member for Wentworth and De...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 692 c394 (Link to this contribution)

We now have a formal time limit of four minutes. I call the Chairman of the Defence Committee, To...

Tobias Ellwood | 692 cc394-6 (Link to this contribution)

I will not tire of saying this, but I feel there is a 1930s feel to the world today. The threat p...

Tony Lloyd | 692 cc396-7 (Link to this contribution)

May I place on record my sympathy for the family of Cheryl Gillan, our colleague? She was not in ...

Julian Lewis | 692 cc397-8 (Link to this contribution)

May I warmly endorse what the hon. Member for Rochdale (Tony Lloyd) just said about our late, dea...

Jeremy Corbyn | 692 cc398-9 (Link to this contribution)

This is an important and obviously very timely debate—timely because of the Government’s review o...

Liam Fox | 692 cc399-400 (Link to this contribution)

Defence reviews and the subsequent spending priorities are not abstract events but relate to iden...

Lord Spellar | 692 cc400-1 (Link to this contribution)

First, may we record that on this day 70 years ago the great trade union leader, Labour Foreign S...

Bernard Jenkin | 692 c401 (Link to this contribution)

I very much share the concerns expressed by the right hon. Member for Warley (John Spellar), but ...

Lord Spellar | 692 c401 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman will recall that that vote was taken about five years later than it should hav...

Bernard Jenkin | 692 cc401-2 (Link to this contribution)

I think the coalition had something to do with that. I warned David Cameron about that before we ...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 692 c402 (Link to this contribution)

We now go by video link to Marie Rimmer, with a time limit of three minutes.

5.30 pm

Marie Rimmer | 692 c402 (Link to this contribution)

The British military is currently engaged in its biggest ever—[Inaudible.]

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 692 c402 (Link to this contribution)

Order. We cannot hear the hon. Lady. Shall we try audio only?

Marie Rimmer | 692 c402 (Link to this contribution)

[Inaudible.]—proving once again that they are the ultimate emergency service.—[Inaudible.]

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 692 c402 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I am sorry, but we will try to come back to the hon. Lady later, because the sound quality...

Alun Cairns | 692 cc402-3 (Link to this contribution)

The additional £24 billion in the defence resource needs to be recognised and comes after a numbe...

Dan Jarvis | 692 cc403-4 (Link to this contribution)

Our withdrawal from the EU, the rise of China and the threat posed by Russia has meant that the s...

Nigel Evans | 692 c404 (Link to this contribution)

Order. We have to leave it there; I am sorry, Dan. We will now return to Marie Rimmer.

5.37...

Marie Rimmer | 692 cc404-5 (Link to this contribution)

The British military are currently engaged in their biggest ever homeland military operation in p...

Nigel Evans | 692 c405 (Link to this contribution)

Order. Sorry Marie; we have to leave it there.

5.40 pm

Emma Lewell-Buck | 692 cc405-6 (Link to this contribution)

It is galling that time and again we hear from the Secretary of State and his Ministers that our ...

Damien Moore | 692 c406 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome today’s debate, but I want Members in this Chamber, particularly on the Opposition Benc...

Lord Beamish | 692 cc406-7 (Link to this contribution)

In 1962, Dean Acheson, the former Secretary of State, said:

“Great Britain has lost an empi...

Andrew Selous | 692 cc407-8 (Link to this contribution)

The strength of our armed forces does not just rest in the capability of our military hardware. I...

Nigel Evans | 692 c408 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I am terribly sorry, but time is up.

5.51 pm

Jamie Stone | 692 cc408-9 (Link to this contribution)

I want to make two simple points. The work done by the armed forces during the pandemic was welco...

Nigel Evans | 692 c409 (Link to this contribution)

I ask Members who are participating remotely to keep an eye on the clock and have an independent ...

Andrew Bowie | 692 c409 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker; I will endeavour not to be cut off.

It is a pleasure to speak...

Bob Stewart | 692 c409 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry to have to disagree with my very good friend. We are reducing the capability of our ar...

Andrew Bowie | 692 cc409-410 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my right hon. and gallant Friend—my very good friend—for his intervention. I would never ...

Mohammad Yasin | 692 c410 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for the opportunity to speak in this very important debate.

I wish to urge th...

Darren Jones | 692 cc410-1 (Link to this contribution)

I will focus, perhaps slightly unusually in the debate, on the impact of climate change on our na...

James Sunderland | 692 cc411-2 (Link to this contribution)

It is a great privilege to speak in this key debate, Mr Deputy Speaker, although the concept of s...

Bob Stewart | 692 c412 (Link to this contribution)

I remember that in 2010 we cut the Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers hugely, and said we ...

James Sunderland | 692 cc412-3 (Link to this contribution)

I could not agree more with my right hon. Friend, as a Corps man myself. It is imperative that we...

James Wild | 692 c413 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome the Opposition’s shift in wanting to have a debate on the strength of the armed forces ...

Grahame Morris | 692 cc413-4 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to support the motion on the Order Paper, not least because I believe that Conservative pr...

Chris Clarkson | 692 cc414-5 (Link to this contribution)

Mr Deputy Speaker,

“I hear it a lot on the Tory benches, this idea of a country that ruled ...

Charlotte Nichols | 692 cc415-6 (Link to this contribution)

One really positive advance that we have made this century has been our recognition of the obliga...

Emma Hardy | 692 cc416-7 (Link to this contribution)

Hull and east Yorkshire has always been a high recruitment area for the armed forces and I give m...

Suzanne Webb | 692 cc417-8 (Link to this contribution)

The strength of our armed forces is in the people who serve in them, and of course this Governmen...

Kate Osborne | 692 c418 (Link to this contribution)

It has taken just 16 months for the Prime Minister to break his election promise not to reduce th...

Bob Stewart | 692 cc418-9 (Link to this contribution)

I get the idea of grey-zone warfare. I studied strategy; I realise that we cannot fight the next ...

Bob Stewart | 692 c419 (Link to this contribution)

And indeed, as my good friend says, they are Fijian. Increasingly, those battalions will have to ...

Antony Higginbotham | 692 cc419-420 (Link to this contribution)

It is a privilege to be called in this debate, particularly because Burnley and Padiham have a ve...

Nigel Evans | 692 c420 (Link to this contribution)

Order. Sorry about that, but time is up.

6.34 pm

Matt Western | 692 cc420-1 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to speak in this debate; I was not entirely sure that I would get the opportunit...

Jim Shannon | 692 c421 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Opposition for securing this important debate in which I have much interest—it is a m...

Christian Wakeford | 692 cc421-2 (Link to this contribution)

Let me start by paying a few tributes. If my hon. Friend the Member for Hyndburn (Sara Britcliffe...

Bob Stewart | 692 c422 (Link to this contribution)

Forgive me for intervening yet again, but may I point out that, on most of our operations, we can...

Christian Wakeford | 692 c422 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my right hon. and gallant Friend for his point because it leads me on to what I was about...

Nigel Evans | 692 c422 (Link to this contribution)

We have to go to the wind-ups now.

6.44 pm

Stephen Morgan | 692 cc422-4 (Link to this contribution)

I associate myself with the remarks and tributes made by the shadow Defence Secretary, the Minist...

Johnny Mercer | 692 cc424-6 (Link to this contribution)

It has been an interesting debate. As you well know, Mr Deputy Speaker, I thoroughly enjoy any de...

Johnny Mercer | 692 c426 (Link to this contribution)

No, I am not going to give way. [Interruption.] No, no, no.

Lord Beamish | 692 c426 (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Mr Deputy Speaker. I will take your advice, but is it in order to call a Mem...

Nigel Evans | 692 c426 (Link to this contribution)

If I had heard anything that was out of order, I would certainly have called it into order. It is...

Johnny Mercer | 692 cc426-7 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker. I am getting used to it now.

The hon. Member for Barnsley Cen...

Nigel Evans | 692 c427 (Link to this contribution)

I am now going to put the Question, and you will be expected to vote the way you are shouting. Cl...

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