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Devolution in England

Estimates day on Monday, 2 March 2015, in the House of Commons, led by Clive Betts. The answering members were Kris Hopkins and Andy Sawford.
Supplementary estimates 2014-15. Second estimates day (part one). Motion, that for the year ending with 31 March 2015, for expenditure by the Department for Communities and Local Government: (1) further resources, not exceeding £752,206,000 be authorised for use for current purposes as set out in HC 1019, (2) the resources authorised for use for capital purposes be reduced by £607,860,000 as so set out, and (3) the sum authorised for issue out of the Consolidated Fund be reduced by £1,092,985,000 as so set out. Question deferred. Resolved.
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Parliamentary proceeding
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593 cc692-733 
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2014-15
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Supply estimates
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House of Commons chamber
Proceeding contributions
Clive Betts | 593 c786 (Link to this contribution)

It is a great pleasure to introduce this debate on the report of the Communities and Local Govern...

Henry Smith | 593 c786 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is correct about the importance of devolution to cities in England, but the co...


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Clive Betts | 593 c693 (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely. The essence of our recommendations is that there should be a framework—a pathway—by w...

Andrew Gwynne | 593 c693 (Link to this contribution)

I am a firm believer in the decentralisation of power, but does my hon. Friend recognise that dec...

Clive Betts | 593 c693 (Link to this contribution)

We looked at that issue and it is clear that there have to be proper governance arrangements if l...

Graham Allen | 593 c693 (Link to this contribution)

I support the remarks of my fellow Select Committee Chair. We have to make a start, particularly ...

Clive Betts | 593 c693 (Link to this contribution)

That is an interesting question. I do not think there is anything in the water of members of the ...

Clive Betts | 593 c694 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Gentleman on the third Front Bench wants to join in as well.

Lord Beith | 593 c694 (Link to this contribution)

I pay tribute to the hon. Gentleman’s commitment on this issue, particularly to the devolution of...

Clive Betts | 593 c694 (Link to this contribution)

I hear what the right hon. Gentleman says and I think the issue of accountability is important, b...

John Redwood | 593 c694 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Robert Neill | 593 c694 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Clive Betts | 593 c694 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way to the right hon. Gentleman.

Robert Neill | 593 c694 (Link to this contribution)

First, I assure—[Interruption.]

John Bercow | 593 c694 (Link to this contribution)

Order. We are not having an identity parade, but I think the hon. Gentleman has the right hon. Me...

John Redwood | 593 c694 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Chairman of the Select Committee. When the members of his Committee looked a...

Clive Betts | 593 c694 (Link to this contribution)

There are two aspects to that intervention. The first is that we did not look at income tax, alth...

Robert Neill | 593 c694 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is making an important and powerful point. He is right to say that although ac...

Clive Betts | 593 cc695-6 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right. Indeed, the Committee visited Manchester as part of the i...

Debbie Abrahams | 593 c696 (Link to this contribution)

Is my hon. Friend concerned about how the Government have pushed through this undemocratic proces...

Clive Betts | 593 c696 (Link to this contribution)

I hope that colleagues will discuss with their colleagues in local government in Greater Manchest...

Lisa Nandy | 593 c696 (Link to this contribution)

I share my hon. Friend’s views about the benefits of devolution to people and communities, but wh...

Clive Betts | 593 cc696-7 (Link to this contribution)

Without going into the details of Greater Manchester, which I do not know all the aspects of, thi...

Graham Stringer | 593 c697 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend has produced an excellent report. On the relationship between taxes and responsibi...

Clive Betts | 593 c698 (Link to this contribution)

That has been true so far, but the positions in Scotland and in Wales are going to change. They w...

George Hollingbery | 593 c698 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Chair of the Select Committee with whom I served for some time, although I d...

Clive Betts | 593 cc698-9 (Link to this contribution)

I was going to come on to equalisation. Some areas have a greater ability to create and get the b...

Graham Allen | 593 c699 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend will know that the report from the Select Committee on Political and Constitutiona...

Clive Betts | 593 c699 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, and I congratulate my hon. Friend and his Select Committee on the work they have done; indee...

Bob Stewart | 593 c700 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Clive Betts | 593 c700 (Link to this contribution)

This will be the last intervention; then I will conclude.

Bob Stewart | 593 c700 (Link to this contribution)

Once these powers have been devolved, what happens if a local authority started behaving in a mad...

Clive Betts | 593 c700 (Link to this contribution)

It is possible for a Secretary of State to have reserve powers to intervene in extremis, as indee...

Robert Neill | 593 c700 (Link to this contribution)

It might be worth bearing in mind the fact—for the benefit of my hon. Friend the Member for Becke...

Clive Betts | 593 cc700-1 (Link to this contribution)

I am sure lawyers will not be out of business any time soon on this matter The hon. Gentleman is ...

Damian Collins | 593 c701 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate the Select Committee on its report and the hon. Member for Sheffield South East (M...

John Redwood | 593 c701 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that we also need an England level of decision making when it comes to ...

Damian Collins | 593 c702 (Link to this contribution)

I agree that powers and decisions should not be forced on English communities by MPs who are not ...

Graham Allen | 593 c702 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman accept that if all that we do relates to the question of English whipped ...

Damian Collins | 593 cc702-3 (Link to this contribution)

I think that there are two important debates to be had, and that it would not necessarily be help...

Mark Pawsey | 593 c704 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is talking very eloquently about the need to devolve powers to communities. Does h...

Damian Collins | 593 c704 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with my hon. Friend and believe that having a good local plan is the best guarantee a loc...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 593 c704 (Link to this contribution)

Order. The hon. Member for Folkestone and Hythe (Damian Collins) has spoken for approximately 10 ...

Graham Stringer | 593 cc704-5 (Link to this contribution)

I would like to start by disagreeing with my hon. Friend the Member for Denton and Reddish (Andre...

Clive Betts | 593 c705 (Link to this contribution)

Thinking slightly cynically, may I ask my hon. Friend whether he thinks that Treasury Ministers a...

Graham Stringer | 593 cc705-6 (Link to this contribution)

Sometimes that is absolutely true. It is sometimes the objective of central Government to pass on...

Lisa Nandy | 593 c706 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my hon. Friend for raising this issue about the mayor. He says it is a directly ...

Graham Stringer | 593 cc706-7 (Link to this contribution)

I do not disagree with my hon. Friend about that, although we do disagree on other parts of this ...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 593 c707 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I had every confidence that the hon. Gentleman could add 10, get over the hour and get to ...

Robert Neill | 593 cc707-8 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Blackley and Broughton (Graham Stringer). I agree ...

Lisa Nandy | 593 c708 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman agree with me, as somebody who is a Member of Parliament in Greater Manch...

Robert Neill | 593 cc708-9 (Link to this contribution)

Local authority leaders are elected via their local authorities. We can talk about the time frame...

Mark Pawsey | 593 c709 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making a strong case for increased devolution, which is exactly what we heard o...

Robert Neill | 593 cc709-710 (Link to this contribution)

There are two things. One is a practical matter that we must address seriously, which is the need...

Austin Mitchell | 593 cc710-2 (Link to this contribution)

I want to speak as a partial and not wildly enthusiastic supporter of the Select Committee’s repo...

John Redwood | 593 cc712-4 (Link to this contribution)

We are debating devolution in England, but if we are to have more devolution in England, we first...

Lisa Nandy | 593 cc714-7 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for Sheffield South East (Mr Betts) and his Committee on...

John Redwood | 593 c717 (Link to this contribution)

Would the hon. Lady agree with all this if the new mayor were directly elected to a quicker timet...

Lisa Nandy | 593 cc717-8 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Gentleman has helped me brilliantly to segue into what must happen next. The truth...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 593 c718 (Link to this contribution)

Order. Again I implore hon. Members for 10 minutes to mean 10 minutes more than are currently on ...

Martin Vickers | 593 cc718-720 (Link to this contribution)

I will do my best to keep to your time limit, Madam Deputy Speaker.

This has been a welcome...

Simon Danczuk | 593 cc720-2 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Cleethorpes (Martin Vickers). I congratulate my ho...

John Pugh | 593 cc722-3 (Link to this contribution)

May I begin by apologising to you, Madam Deputy Speaker, and to the Chair of the Committee for mi...

Andy Sawford | 593 cc723-5 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to respond to this interesting and constructive debate. In common with other hon...

John Redwood | 593 c725 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman’s party have plans to devolve the right and the duty to raise more revenu...

Andy Sawford | 593 cc725-8 (Link to this contribution)

I am not surprised that the right hon. Gentleman wants to tempt me down that path. What I am sett...

Clive Betts | 593 c728 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with my hon. Friend that many questions about the deal in Greater Manchester need to be a...

Andy Sawford | 593 c728 (Link to this contribution)

I entirely agree. There is an opportunity here. NHS England and the Department of Health at Richm...

Kris Hopkins | 593 cc728-9 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome the debate and the report, and I share the central tenet of the speech that we heard fr...

John Redwood | 593 c729 (Link to this contribution)

Where health expenditures and money is being offered to local government and local government rep...

Kris Hopkins | 593 cc729-730 (Link to this contribution)

As I understand it, the accountability for the spend of that money will remain with the NHS and i...

Annette Brooke | 593 c730 (Link to this contribution)

I wholeheartedly agree with the Minister about the benefit the growth funds are bringing to LEPs,...

Kris Hopkins | 593 c730 (Link to this contribution)

LEPs are a partnership between the local authorities and the business leaders who sit inside thos...

Graham Allen | 593 c730 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate the Minister and his Government on the list of the measures to decentralise power ...

Kris Hopkins | 593 c730 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman makes a good observation about the opportunity for a Government who are not as...

Lisa Nandy | 593 c730 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister give way on that point?

Lisa Nandy | 593 c730 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister for giving way. I question his use of the term “shortly” to mean tw...

Kris Hopkins | 593 c731 (Link to this contribution)

I think I got off lightly, because I appreciate that language is important when we are talking ab...

Graham Stringer | 593 c731 (Link to this contribution)

Select Committee recommendation 49 starts:

“Growth in one area of England does not mean red...

Kris Hopkins | 593 c731 (Link to this contribution)

That is certainly not my intention. My intention is to see every part of the country grow. The Ch...

Clive Betts | 593 c731 (Link to this contribution)

I read out a quote by the Prime Minister, which I presume the Minister agrees with, about proposa...

Kris Hopkins | 593 cc731-2 (Link to this contribution)

It applies to England at this moment. We have given local authorities the ability to raise money,...

Lisa Nandy | 593 c732 (Link to this contribution)

Can the Minister tell me why the three-week consultation that he ran in January did not mention t...

Kris Hopkins | 593 cc732-3 (Link to this contribution)

The deals associated with the health authority still have a long way to go. The principle of join...

Kris Hopkins | 593 c733 (Link to this contribution)

I am getting on with it. The hon. Member for Wigan said that the new plans were not the way forwa...

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