Counter-Terrorism and Security Bill

I would say two things to the right hon. Gentleman. First, as I have just been outlining, we face...

Is the right hon. Lady satisfied that we now have enough interception powers, or not?

If the hon. Gentleman is referring to the power to issue warrants on companies who offer services...

I am glad the Home Secretary just mentioned tackling the terrorists’ narrative. Does she have in ...

I commend my hon. Friend because he has been resolute in promoting this aspect of dealing with te...

The Home Secretary is right to say that progress has been made during the past year, but will she...

No. Under the temporary exclusion power in the Bill, when someone who has been involved in terror...

The Home Secretary has just said that we need a counter-extremism strategy. May I ask her when th...

As I have indicated, the Home Office is leading on the extremism strategy. We will be working on ...

May I press the Home Secretary about the temporary exclusion orders that she wants to have the po...

I caution the hon. Gentleman about the terminology that he uses in relation to the power. He has ...

Will the Home Secretary clarify something so that we can understand the implications of the legis...

These matters will be looked at on a case-by-case basis. The point is to be able to manage the re...

I confess that I am by no means convinced of the legality of what is being suggested under tempor...

They are not de facto stateless. It is open to somebody to return, but the proposal is that they ...

I understand the system that my right hon. Friend is putting in place of managed return, but what...

There will be a form of challenge available to an individual under judicial review. We will also ...

On a point that was made earlier, if an individual has the right to challenge how they are manage...

As the hon. Lady knows, the Government have made a number of changes to legal aid, and we are loo...

The Home Secretary is being very reasonable to a lot of Members who wish to get in. Let us take t...

If someone were in a country such as France or Turkey, and the Government of that country request...

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I will give way one further time, and then I will move on to part 2 of the Bill.

As someone who wants to protect civil liberties in this country, may I warmly welcome this measur...

My hon. Friend makes an interesting point. That is part of the process of trying to disrupt peopl...

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May I make a little more progress and then give way to the right hon. Lady?

It is on that point.

Will the right hon. Lady at least allow me to get to the end of the paragraph before I give way?<...

I have a simple inquiry, as I genuinely do not understand why the clause as drafted states that i...

We looked carefully at the proposals made by David Anderson and I believe he suggested that there...

I am puzzled that the Home Secretary has just said that carriers will be required to provide some...

Obviously, carriers in most parts of the world are already required to carry out some security sc...

The right hon. Lady mentioned universities and other institutions being sent statutory guidelines...

The purpose of putting Prevent on a statutory basis is twofold. First, the statutory duty will no...

Will the Home Secretary clarify what she means by that? Could she envisage a Home Secretary makin...

That is not the intention of the duty; its intention is to ensure that the university or institut...

As the Home Secretary knows, the Prevent strategy falls within the competence of Scottish Ministe...

I point out to the hon. Gentleman that counter-terrorism is obviously a reserved matter. He might...

I commend the Home Secretary for the measures in this Bill, which are reasonable measures that ac...

My hon. Friend is right that we continue to have a gap in relation to communications data. Althou...

As the Home Secretary said, it is the responsibility of Government to protect the liberty and the...

Does not the right hon. Lady accept that Britain is one of the leading donors to providing humani...

The Government have rightly provided a very strong response in the region and support for those w...

There are now literally millions of refugees in Lebanon and children are being born there who are...

My hon. Friend is right to say that the huge stresses and strains in the region will have long-te...

Does my right hon. Friend share my concern that, although many of the Bill’s provisions are very ...

My right hon. Friend is right. She has great expertise in looking at the work of the Prevent prog...

Evidence suggests that the biggest pressure on young jihadists comes not from organisations, but ...

My right hon. Friend makes a very powerful point. We should be honest about the fact that we do n...

I applaud the constructive tone of the right hon. Lady’s remarks so far. May I take her back to t...

I agree with the hon. Gentleman that more needs to be done at the national level. The Bill introd...

I have listened very carefully to what the shadow Home Secretary is saying about the Prevent prog...

It is absolutely right to look at both violent and non-violent extremism. If the Home Secretary h...

I have not heard from either Front Bencher the two words “civil liberties”. Is it the right hon. ...

In fact, I talked about the importance of protecting both liberty and security when I opened my r...

The right hon. Lady will understand that there is some sensitivity on this issue, given the rathe...

I do support the proposals, because they came out of David Anderson’s report about changes to the...

The Home Secretary said in her speech both that we were engaged in a generational struggle and th...

My right hon. Friend is right that the threat level is the same now as it was when the Home Secre...

Does my right hon. Friend believe that the apprehension of passports requires proper border agenc...

My hon. Friend makes a really important point. There are no proper exit checks in place across th...

Temporary exclusion orders may be necessary—there are obvious dangers in people coming back, havi...

More judicial oversight is needed in this area and we will certainly table amendments. It is also...

My right hon. Friend is right to raise such queries. May I add two others that she might want to ...

Again, my hon. Friend raises important questions. The independent reviewer said that the policy w...

What are the right hon. Lady’s suggestions, therefore?

There are some changes that could be made and we will table amendments to that effect, but we nee...

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I will give way to the hon. and learned Gentleman if he can tell me whether Turkey, for example, ...

It may well be that the right hon. Lady is making a good argument, but I cannot judge that until ...

In which case perhaps the hon. and learned Member should stop intervening and let me get on and s...

One thing that has bedevilled these debates is that neither the Home Secretary nor anyone else ha...

My hon. Friend makes an important point, and by the time the Bill gets to Committee, the House ne...

I may have interrupted the right hon. Lady at the wrong point, but I would be grateful if she cou...

We said some time ago that we would support measures on IP addresses, and that the whole area nee...

It is a pleasure to be able to participate in the debate. At the outset, I should say that I welc...

Will the right hon. and learned Gentleman give way?

I shall make a bit of progress.

Therefore, when we consider the question of temporary exclu...

It is a pleasure to follow the right hon. and learned Member for Beaconsfield (Mr Grieve), whose ...

When we were discussing the Wanless and Whittam report, the right hon. Gentleman challenged me in...

The Home Secretary is right that she is due to appear before us in two weeks’ time, but the legis...

Is it not a particular irony that the Government always drag their heels on legislation when it c...

I thank my hon. Friend, although that also happened with a Government of whom we were both Member...

My right hon. Friend talked about mistakes. Going further back, would it not be wise to remember ...

Those are exactly the unintended consequences to which the right hon. and learned Member for Beac...

Some of us feel that a seamless counter-narrative needs to be presented, and that therefore it wo...

The hon. Gentleman has worked very hard on this issue for some years. I believe that the status q...

The right hon. Gentleman is, of course, absolutely right about the need for us to engage with com...

The hon. Gentleman is right. We need to understand much more, and we can only do so at local leve...

Does that not highlight why, in considering giving new measures to the Home Secretary it is incum...

My hon. Friend is a greater historian than I am, but our constituents would say, if they were to ...

My right hon. Friend the Home Secretary opened the debate by referring to the nature of the threa...

I may have misunderstood that point that the right hon. and learned Gentleman is making, and I ho...

No, it certainly would not. I think that that points up the fact that perhaps the issue was to fi...

I should emphasise that I do not disagree with the right hon. and learned Gentleman’s characteris...

A lot would depend on the interpretation of the strength of the right that a court was willing to...

I have listened carefully to the right hon. and learned Gentleman’s speech and fully agree with i...

I am too long in the tooth to try to speak on behalf of my party leader, as the hon. Gentleman mi...

The right hon. and learned Gentleman has spoken a lot about the rights of those who may be exclud...

In my own defence, when I first got to my feet—I do not know whether the hon. Gentleman was prese...

It is a pleasure to follow the right hon. and learned Member for North East Fife (Sir Menzies Cam...

My right hon. Friend has done a huge amount of work on community engagement, when in government a...

I am grateful to my right hon. Friend for raising that issue. We have more experience now of the ...

Does my right hon. Friend agree that that is the reason why we had to tackle the issues of the Tr...

My hon. Friend is so right. I would like to place on the record my huge admiration for the courag...

Thank you, Mr Speaker, for calling me to follow an excellent speech by the right hon. Member for ...

I cannot anticipate what the hon. Gentleman is going to say next, but I did speak to Charles Moor...

That only goes to show that the right hon. Lady and I do not co-ordinate our efforts as seamlessl...

The hon. Gentleman is making such a powerful speech that I am loth to interrupt him. I am sure th...

When I heard the hon. Gentleman, in his articulate fashion, make that point in an earlier interve...

In no sense was my intervention an attempt to justify what is happening. It was about accepting a...

What I recognise is that the events the hon. Gentleman is talking about are legitimate in a democ...

indicated assent.

I see the hon. Gentleman nodding in agreement, so I will quit the exchange at that point.

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I was about to wind up my remarks, but I cannot resist giving way to the right hon. and learned G...

The hon. Gentleman will forgive me for taking advantage of his good manners. In his very careful ...

I absolutely accept that parallel. Many other parallels could be drawn that are similar to the on...

Today and over the past 10 days or so, the vast majority of people in the Muslim community in the...

My hon. Friend is making a very interesting contribution. Does he agree that one of the problems—...

I certainly agree that there are issues of Islamophobia in terms of employment, but it comes to s...

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Birmingham, Perry Barr (Mr Mahmood) who made a hea...

The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right that these people are not steeped in the religion of Islam...

The hon. Gentleman makes a reasonable point. My underlying point is that legislation is not alway...

Before coming on to specific provisions in the Bill, I want to say a few words on the context. Ta...

Here we go again, with yet another counter-terror Bill to tackle yet another threat posed by extr...

My hon. Friend may recall that, during the last Parliament, 90 days of detention without trial se...

I know that my hon. Friend has been paying real attention to some of the conversations that we ha...

Does the hon. Gentleman agree that one problem is that there is a mentality and a default positio...

The hon. Gentleman reminds me of the last feature I wanted to include in the list of what we alwa...

Does the hon. Gentleman not recognise that, in equal measure, the decision not to intervene in th...

What I accept is that there was a failure to recognise some of the international dynamics that in...

Syria has been mentioned. Last year the idea was to intervene in Syria on one side, but this year...

Again, my hon. Friend is spot-on. We should be proofing anything we suggest and put through, and ...

Order. If the hon. Gentleman will allow me to deal with the 7 o’clock motion, I will come back to...

I thought that I was going to get one of my traditional and routine tickings-off from you, Madam ...

It is the season of good will, Mr Wishart.

I am grateful for the early Christmas cheer.

To return to the Bill, what new measures does ...

Does my hon. Friend think—this is emerging in his speech—that in the seven Bills he has mentioned...

That “must do something” feeling has probably increased as we approach an election year. The Cons...

It is a pleasure to follow the speech by the hon. Member for Perth and North Perthshire (Pete Wis...

When we start to engage with those with radical views that differ substantially from the views of...

I am sorry, but I respectfully disagree with my hon. Friend. Yes, some people have radical views ...

My hon. Friend is making an interesting contribution. Does she think that young Muslims, particul...

I thank my hon. Friend for that intervention. He will not be surprised to hear that I entirely ag...

That is precisely the sort of role I see the Government playing—not setting themselves up as Isla...

I agree. I will finish by saying that there are people in this country who can help to create the...

The Home Secretary set out in her opening remarks why she believes it is necessary to introduce t...

indicated dissent.

I am very pleased that the Home Secretary is shaking her head, but it would be helpful if the Min...

In responding to what has been a very good debate, it is important to underline the context and b...

The Minister is making a sensible and thoughtful speech and his tone is absolutely right. May I p...

This is a complex subject and we cannot point to one individual factor for a specific individual....

Following on from what my right hon. Friend the Member for Leicester East (Keith Vaz) said, a stu...

That is why it is so important that we continue to see that response from the community and famil...

But an individual can return only under the terms specified by my right hon. Friend the Home Secr...

The power rightly reflects the challenge and threat we see from those returning from areas of con...