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Health and Social Care Bill. As amended in committee. In two volumes.
Wednesday, 21 December 2011
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Deposited Paper DEP2012-0382
Tuesday, 28 February 2012
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Proceeding contributions

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 735 c648 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister clarify what the sanctions are when there is a failure to co-operate? Examples of ...

Baroness Northover | 735 c648-9 (Link to this contribution) Local authorities have a statutory responsibility for public health. If the noble Baroness looks at ...

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Lord Beecham | 735 c649-50 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, given the number of issues on which there are serious disagreements around the House, cert...

Baroness Hollins | 735 c650 (Link to this contribution) 26A: Clause 10, page 5, line 18, at end insert ““, including screening for communization needs””

Lord Rea | 735 c646 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not know if it is a slight slip on the part of those who drafted the Bill that the wo...

Lord Beecham | 735 c644-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will speak to the amendments in my name in this group. They are, in many ways, fairly st...

Baroness Northover | 735 c646-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in Committee noble Lords made a number of helpful and constructive comments on public heal...

Earl Howe | 735 c642 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will attempt to answer the noble Baroness in a moment. She is right that the chief execu...

Baroness Armstrong of Hill Top | 735 c641-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, there is some confusion outside the House about the relationship between the Secretary of ...

Lord Beecham | 735 c644 (Link to this contribution) 24: Clause 10, page 5, line 8, after ““protection”” insert ““and promotion””

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 735 c642-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am very grateful to the noble Earl, Lord Howe. He thinks that I am being inconsistent wi...

Lord Rea | 735 c640 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have a question for the noble Earl on this amendment. What will be the relationship of P...

Earl Howe | 735 c640-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, and all noble Lords who have spoken in another excellen...

Baroness Williams of Crosby | 735 c639-40 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I agree strongly with the noble Lord, Lord Beecham. Public health has always been the Cind...

Lord Beecham | 735 c638-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I trust that my noble friend will not object if I claim at least parliamentary paternity o...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 735 c636-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall refer also to Amendments 21, 21A and 22. The amendments take us to a number of oth...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 735 c636 (Link to this contribution) 20: Schedule 1, page 275, line 13, at end insert ““with the consent of the Health Select Committee o...

Earl Howe | 735 c618-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendments 19 and 70 seek to reintroduce the Secretary of State’s powers to direct the hea...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 735 c617-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment 19 comes back to a theme which takes us to the overriding responsibility of the ...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 735 c616-7 (Link to this contribution) 19: Clause 8, page 4, leave out lines 10 to 21 and insert— ““(2) The Board has the function of arran...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 735 c613-4 (Link to this contribution) All of us who have worked with Sir David will know that he is a very fine manager and I am very glad...

Lord Harris of Haringey | 735 c657 (Link to this contribution) It was exactly that. I asked specifically for an answer to the question I put earlier. That is entir...

Baroness Northover | 735 c657 (Link to this contribution) Okay. I think the noble Lord has a fairly good idea of what the structure looks like. Therefore, you...

Lord Beecham | 735 c657-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have a vision of meetings in the health world now starting with, instead of prayers, as ...

Earl Howe | 735 c658 (Link to this contribution) 34: Clause 12, page 7, line 17, at end insert— ““( ) After subsection (1E) insert— ““(1F) In exercis...

Earl Howe | 735 c658 (Link to this contribution) 35: Clause 12, page 7, line 22, at end insert— ““( ) In section 272 of that Act (orders, regulations...

Earl Howe | 735 c658 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendments 39 and 40, 74, 137 to 140 and 149. The Government have a...

Lord Harris of Haringey | 735 c655 (Link to this contribution) I support the amendment. The significance of the chief environmental health officer’s role would ste...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 735 c655 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the question asked by my noble friend Lady Masham illustrates why we need to have a chief ...

Lord Harris of Haringey | 735 c657 (Link to this contribution) Before the noble Baroness sits down, will she clarify whether she sees the chief public health offic...

Baroness Northover | 735 c656-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we discussed environmental health in Committee. It is clearly an important area that indee...

Baroness Northover | 735 c657 (Link to this contribution) This being Report, and as I am not sure that that was a brief question for elucidation—

Baroness Hollins | 735 c653 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I know that my noble friend was extremely grateful for the letter from the noble Earl, Lor...

Baroness Masham of Ilton | 735 c654 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, may I ask the mover of the amendment whether infection control will be one of these subjec...

Lord Beecham | 735 c654-5 (Link to this contribution) I would be loath to give a definitive answer, not even having the advantage of officials in the Box ...

Lord Beecham | 735 c653 (Link to this contribution) 33: After Clause 11, insert the following new Clause— ““Chief Environmental Health Officer for Engla...

Lord Beecham | 735 c653-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment 33 proposes the appointment of a chief environmental health officer for England....

Baroness Northover | 735 c652 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we are very sympathetic to the points that the noble Baronesses, Lady Hollins, Lady Whitak...

Baroness Thornton | 735 c651-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, briefly, we support these amendments and commend the noble Lord, Lord Ramsbotham, and my n...

Baroness Whitaker | 735 c651 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in supporting this group of amendments to which I have put my name, perhaps I may first sa...

Baroness Hollins | 735 c650-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise to speak to Amendment 26A and the others in this group on behalf of my noble friend...

Baroness Northover | 735 c653 (Link to this contribution) I would refer the noble Baroness to the public health outcomes framework and the way that this will ...

Baroness Thornton | 735 c652 (Link to this contribution) How does the Minister reconcile what she has just been telling us about referring children to that s...

Lord Harris of Haringey | 735 c592 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, is not the point that the contractual obligation that the Government are proposing would i...

Earl Howe | 735 c592 (Link to this contribution) I will move on to primary care in a moment, but I do not agree with the noble Lord at all on his fir...

Lord Harris of Haringey | 735 c593 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for giving way again, but I am now genuinely confused about why this i...

Countess of Mar | 735 c587-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, when my daughter was a little girl I brought her up to tell me immediately if she had done...

Lord Cormack | 735 c588-9 (Link to this contribution) I was not intending to take part in this debate, but it has been a thoroughly fascinating one. The n...

Baroness Wheeler | 735 c589-90 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, on behalf of these Benches, I would like to support Amendment 17 in the name of the noble ...

Earl Howe | 735 c590-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this has been an excellent debate and I would like first to pay tribute to the noble Baron...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 735 c584-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I considered long and hard whether to add my name to this amendment. The gagging orders to...

Baroness Hussein-Ece | 735 c586-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, had no intention to speak on this amendment, having spoken on and supported the pr...

Lord Ribeiro | 735 c587 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I would like to comment on the good medical practice to which the noble Baroness, Lady Fin...

Lord Harris of Haringey | 735 c613 (Link to this contribution) But only a little.

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 735 c612-3 (Link to this contribution) I must say that I am really rather disappointed by the noble Earl’s response to my constructive amen...

Earl Howe | 735 c610-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, during the passage of the Bill we have had much discussion about the importance of freeing...

Lord Graham of Edmonton | 735 c601 (Link to this contribution) Keep going.

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 735 c601-2 (Link to this contribution) My noble friend urges me to keep going. I will certainly continue to note down the evidence on wheth...

Lord Warner | 735 c602-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I must congratulate my noble friend. He has obviously had an extremely good weekend and is...

Lord Fowler | 735 c604-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, when the noble Lord said that the amendment was not exactly the perfect solution, that was...

Lord Harris of Haringey | 735 c605-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is an enormous pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Fowler. I was particularly taken...

Earl of Erroll | 735 c608 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the description by the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, of the NHS Commissioning Board and its satel...

Baroness Tonge | 735 c608-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I cannot resist putting my oar in on this Bill. I do so because, many years ago, I was in ...

Lord Newton of Braintree | 735 c609-10 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope that the noble Lord who moved the amendment will accept my apologies. I needed to r...

Baroness Masham of Ilton | 735 c596-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this is a very complex health Bill and I should like to pay tribute to the Minister for al...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 735 c600 (Link to this contribution) 18: After Clause 7, insert the following new Clause— ““The Secretary of State’s duty as to preventin...

Baroness Northover | 735 c593 (Link to this contribution) I remind the noble Baroness that, as my noble friend said, we are on Report. If she is seeking clari...

Baroness Young of Old Scone | 735 c593-4 (Link to this contribution) I merely want to ask the noble Earl what the material difference is between this requirement being l...

Earl Howe | 735 c593 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope that the noble Lord will allow me to remind him very respectfully that we are on Re...

Baroness Young of Old Scone | 735 c593 (Link to this contribution) I was not intending to speak on this amendment but, as the former chairman of the Care Quality Commi...

Earl Howe | 735 c594 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope I have already explained that. In our conversation with the CQC, it made very clear...

Baroness Kingsmill | 735 c594 (Link to this contribution) Can the Minister explain the distinction and why we cannot have both? It seems that culture change i...

Earl Howe | 735 c667-70 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, let me begin by setting out what we intend for the standing rules. We intend to use the ru...

Lord Beecham | 735 c667 (Link to this contribution) Does the noble Baroness agree that another possible source of information would be the health scruti...

Baroness Jolly | 735 c667 (Link to this contribution) Certainly local government will play a key role in all this, so the scrutiny committees would seem t...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 735 c670 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble Earl for a comprehensive response to the interesting amendments that hav...

Baroness Williams of Crosby | 735 c659 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak briefly to this group of amendments. We are very pleased that there should n...

Earl Howe | 735 c659-60 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, on Amendment 35, Section 3 of the National Health Service Act 2006, as amended by the Bill...

Baroness Hollins | 735 c660 (Link to this contribution) 37: Clause 14, page 8, line 12, at end insert ““including for those with profound and multiple learn...

Baroness Hollins | 735 c660-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendments 55 and 238. My noble friend Lord Rix sincerely regrets th...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 735 c664-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendments 41, 46, 48 and 293. On a number of occasions, the noble ...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 735 c664 (Link to this contribution) 38: Clause 19, page 13, line 20, leave out ““Regulations may”” and insert ““The Secretary of State m...

Baroness Jolly | 735 c666-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in the absence of my noble friend Lady Cumberlege, I shall speak to Amendment 50. The boar...

Baroness Williams of Crosby | 735 c665-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall address Amendments 38, 43 and 49 in this group but, given the lateness of the hour...

Baroness Thornton | 735 c661-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is important that the Minister can give us some satisfaction in answer to the remarks m...

Baroness Hollins | 735 c663-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for emphasising the Government’s wish to improve outcomes fo...

Earl Howe | 735 c662-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Hollins, for her typically knowledgeable contrib...

Baroness Williams of Crosby | 735 c584 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we have had an extraordinarily well argued debate and I do not want to involve myself for ...

Lord Patel | 735 c558 (Link to this contribution) 13: Clause 6, page 3, line 28, at end insert— ““(1A) Any arrangements made with a person under this ...

Lord Patel | 735 c558-60 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, here we go again. I wish to speak to today’s first group of amendments—Amendments 13, 16, ...

Lord Turnberg | 735 c562 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my name is also attached to Amendment 13. The case has been very well made by the noble Lo...

Lord Ribeiro | 735 c561-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my name is on this amendment, and I wish to say a few words about it. First, I welcome the...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 735 c560-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my name is on two amendments in this group. However, in large part they were covered by th...

Lord Kakkar | 735 c563-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support Amendment 13 in the name of my noble friend Lord Patel and Amendment 16, which a...

Lord Walton of Detchant | 735 c562-3 (Link to this contribution) I support the amendment and will make a point about costs. As I said last week in a debate on educat...

Lord Mawhinney | 735 c562 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I spoke in favour of training and education at an earlier stage of the Bill, so I have no ...

Lord Walton of Detchant | 735 c577 (Link to this contribution) In relation to candour, the noble Lord may know that the General Medical Council published guidance ...

Lord Harris of Haringey | 735 c577 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Walton, for that. It is an extremely important step forward an...

Lord Newton of Braintree | 735 c583-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am tempted to chip in—rather unwisely, no doubt, as usual—by the last two speeches. If i...

Baroness Pitkeathley | 735 c583 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Faulks, speaks with his extensive legal experience, which I certainly...

Baroness Oppenheim-Barnes | 735 c582-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am obliged to my noble friend Lord Faulks for provoking me into thanking him for having ...

Lord Faulks | 735 c580-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I join the debate for the first time, conscious that I was not here in Committee. However,...

Baroness Tyler of Enfield | 735 c579-80 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have a few remarks to make in support of the amendment, to which my name is attached. I ...

Lord Harris of Haringey | 735 c578-9 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my noble friend for that reinforcement. I regret that, within some NHS trusts and s...

Baroness Whitaker | 735 c578 (Link to this contribution) I apologise for interrupting my noble friend. Perhaps I might add something to the other side of the...

Lord Harris of Haringey | 735 c578 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my noble friend for that intervention. She has highlighted the fact that there are ...

Baroness Wall of New Barnet | 735 c577-8 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Lord for giving way for the second time. I certainly support the amendment but I w...

Lord Winston | 735 c565-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support what the noble Lord, Lord Kakkar, said about higher education. He talked about t...

Baroness Emerton | 735 c566 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the amendments in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Patel, from the point of view...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 735 c566-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support Amendments 13 and 16. This debate follows on from our useful discussions on educ...

Baroness Masham of Ilton | 735 c572 (Link to this contribution) 17: After Clause 6, insert the following new Clause— ““The Secretary of State’s duty to ensure openn...

Earl Howe | 735 c572 (Link to this contribution) 15: Clause 6, page 3, line 30, leave out from ““and”” to end of line 33 and insert— ““( ) this Act, ...

Lord Harris of Haringey | 735 c575-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my name is down in support of the amendment. I want to make it clear at the outset that it...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 735 c569 (Link to this contribution) On that welcome news, I assume that would mean that it would also not involve having a higher educat...

Earl Howe | 735 c567-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as I set out in our previous discussion on education and training, the Government are putt...

Lord Patel | 735 c571 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, how can I put this? I am enormously content with all the things that the Minister has said...

Earl Howe | 735 c569-71 (Link to this contribution) That is a logical inference but, if I can get further and better particulars for the noble Lord, I w...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 735 c619-20 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Earl, Lord Howe, particularly for his remarks in relation to Am...

Earl Howe | 735 c594-6 (Link to this contribution) The question of the noble Baroness relates back to something that I said some time ago. The answer i...

Lord Willis of Knaresborough | 735 c565 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, briefly, I support Amendment 13 in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Patel, and others, par...

Baroness Masham of Ilton | 735 c572-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment 17 would require the Secretary of State to introduce a statutory duty of candour...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 735 c600-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, one by one, the pillars holding up the Government’s reasons to justify the mayhem they are...

Baroness Northover | 735 c594 (Link to this contribution) For clarification, can I point out that only the mover of an amendment or the noble Lord in charge o...

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