Localism Bill

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Tuesday, 19 July 2011, in the House of Lords.

Localism Bill. Lords committee stage ninth day. Clauses 100 to 120 agreed to, with clauses 109, 111, 115 agreed to as amended. Schedules 9 to 12 agreed to as amended. Schedule 13 agreed to.

Type

Parliamentary proceeding

Reference

729 c1201-70, 1282-1326

Session

2010-12

Department

Department for Communities and Local Government

Legislative stage

Committee stage

Procedure

New clauses

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords chamber

Localism Bill. Brought from the Commons. In two volumes. Explanatory Notes HL Bill 71-EN also published.
Thursday, 19 May 2011
Bills
House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 729 c1312-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in moving Amendment 166D, I wish to speak to a large number of amendments in this group. W...

Lord McAvoy | 729 c1316 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support my noble friend's amendment. I declare an interest in that my eldest son, Thomas...

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Lord Berkeley | 729 c1314-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the noble Lord, Lord Jenkin, and my noble and learned friend Lord Boyd on these ...

Lord Boyd of Duncansby | 729 c1313-4 (Link to this contribution) My name is also associated with Amendment 166U. At one stage, I had thought that I had put my name t...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 729 c1317-8 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Lord for that explanation. That helps me. These amendments relate to the ...

Lord Berkeley | 729 c1318-9 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I might follow up something that my noble friend Lord McKenzie asked the Minister about the ...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 729 c1316 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this is a very large group of amendments, many of which are quite technical. None of them ...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 729 c1317 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I should have explained it with one extra sentence. Anyway, it is kilovolts. Rathe...

Earl Attlee | 729 c1319-21 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this large group contains a range of amendments that seek to amend various provisions in t...

Lord Borrie | 729 c1307-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak also to the nine other amendments in the group that stand in the names of my...

Lord Borrie | 729 c1307 (Link to this contribution) 157: Clause 111, page 92, line 20, at end insert ““and (c) unless an appeal is submitted under subse...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 729 c1310 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support these amendments. A powerful case has been made. When I studied the amendments, ...

Lord Black of Brentwood | 729 c1309 (Link to this contribution) I strongly support the amendment moved by the noble Lord, Lord Borrie, and in doing so, declare an i...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 729 c1310 (Link to this contribution) Could the Minister help us out? Why is there the differential treatment in terms of rights of appeal...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 729 c1310-1 (Link to this contribution) I think I can summarise it best by saying that they are two different orders of problems for local a...

Lord Borrie | 729 c1311 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am most grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Black of Brentwood, for his support for this am...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c1311-2 (Link to this contribution) 166ZA: Clause 111, page 100, leave out lines 21 and 22 Amendment 166ZA agreed. Amendments 166A and...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 729 c1312 (Link to this contribution) 166D: Schedule 13, page 345, line 17, at end insert— ““(3A) After subsection (2)(b) insert— ““(ba) i...

Lord Greaves | 729 c1326 (Link to this contribution) I shall just let the amendment be. Thank you.

Lord Greaves | 729 c1325 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I apologise to the Committee for tabling a manuscript amendment this morning, but as a res...

Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 729 c1326 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I know that my noble friend is trying to help everyone. I think that he has managed to con...

Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 729 c1326 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Chief Whip for that accommodation. I apologise unreservedly for misleading the...

Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 729 c1324 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I know that it has been a long and hard-working day and all in the Chamber will appreciate...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 729 c1324 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this is disgraceful. To help the Government we agreed to a back-to-back Committee stage, w...

Lord Shutt of Greetland | 729 c1324 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I trust that the amendment can be dealt with tonight. I do not believe it will take very l...

Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 729 c1324 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is now 23:05. Everyone in this Chamber, including the staff of the House, will be here ...

Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall | 729 c1323 (Link to this contribution) In Clause 124, manuscript Amendment 166WA is tabled in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Greaves. Is ...

Lord Shutt of Greetland | 729 c1323 (Link to this contribution) If Members look at the groupings list, they will see that for some strange reason, Amendment 166WA i...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c1322-3 (Link to this contribution) 166VD: After Clause 120, insert the following new Clause— ““Acceptance of applications for developme...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c1323 (Link to this contribution) 166VE: After Clause 121, insert the following new Clause— ““Timetables for reports and decisions on ...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 729 c1321-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we have had an extremely good debate. I am very grateful indeed to my noble friend for his...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c1322 (Link to this contribution) 166VA: Clause 115, page 106, line 12, leave out ““subsection (5)”” and insert ““this section”” 166...

Lord Shutt of Greetland | 729 c1294-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank noble Lords who have spoken to this series of amendments. Clause 107 sets out a li...

Lord Greaves | 729 c1295 (Link to this contribution) Before the noble Lord does so—this is a slightly cheeky intervention—my noble friend said that the G...

Lord Shutt of Greetland | 729 c1295 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have to say that during discussion on the Bill, noble Lords are constantly saying that t...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 729 c1295-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful for that last comment and most grateful to the noble and learned Lord, Lord ...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 729 c1296 (Link to this contribution) 153D: Before Clause 108, insert the following new Clause— ““Notice requiring application for plannin...

Lord Avebury | 729 c1297-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak to Amendment 154, which is grouped with Amendment 153D. Clause 108 inserts ...

Baroness Whitaker | 729 c1299-300 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in supporting Amendment 154, I have very little to add to what was said by the noble Lord,...

Baroness Gardner of Parkes | 729 c1300 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my Amendment 155 is in this group. After listening to the complexity of the last amendment...

Lord Greaves | 729 c1300-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have the fourth amendment —Amendment 170CH—in the group, which is a bit of a mixed bag. ...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 729 c1302-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this has been an interesting debate as we enter into the enforcement chapter of this part ...

Lord Greaves | 729 c1303 (Link to this contribution) The problem with enforcement is that it is inevitably reactive when it depends on people making comp...

Baroness Gardner of Parkes | 729 c1304-5 (Link to this contribution) I shall speak briefly to Amendment 156 concerning the removal of time limits on enforcement. I am no...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 729 c1303-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for his reply. He said that he did not think my amendment could be ma...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 729 c1304 (Link to this contribution) 155A: Clause 109, page 89, line 17, leave out from beginning to ““and”” in line 19 and insert ““appa...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c1306 (Link to this contribution) 155B: Clause 109, page 89, leave out lines 22 to 25 Amendment 155B agreed. Clause 109, as amended,...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c1306-7 (Link to this contribution) 155C: After Clause 109, insert the following new Clause— ““Assurance as regards prosecution for pers...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 729 c1305 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we have Amendments 156A and 156B in this group, which relate to penalty levels. I thank ag...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 729 c1305-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I may address first the amendment proposed by my noble friend Lady Gardner of Park...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c1267 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that is a rather depressing view of how neighbourhood forums and neighbourhood plans will ...

Lord Berkeley | 729 c1269 (Link to this contribution) What is the answer?

Baroness Hanham | 729 c1269 (Link to this contribution) I will have to come back on that. In answer to the noble Baroness, Lady Andrews, neighbourhood plan...

Baroness Andrews | 729 c1268 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry to interrupt the Minister. I go back to the point raised by my noble friend Lady Whitaker...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c1268-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am happy to write on that and to have further discussion, but my understanding is as I h...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c1268 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not think so, because I do not think that design is part of the planning consideratio...

Baroness Whitaker | 729 c1268 (Link to this contribution) I apologise for interrupting the noble Baroness, but I am not quite clear how the national policy pl...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c1268 (Link to this contribution) They will be bound by the local development plan, and the national policy framework will impact on t...

Lord Brooke of Sutton Mandeville | 729 c1269 (Link to this contribution) My Lords—

Baroness Hanham | 729 c1269 (Link to this contribution) I apologise to my noble friend Lord Brooke for not having picked up the matter that he raised and I ...

Lord True | 729 c1269 (Link to this contribution) Will my noble friend also very kindly undertake to respond to my point on Amendment 153ZD where neit...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 729 c1283 (Link to this contribution) I shall speak also to Amendments 152BA and 152BB. These amendments propose that those undertaking a ...

Lord Lucas | 729 c1283 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have an amendment in the group which has nothing to do with the Bill, and I apologise to...

Lord Cameron of Dillington | 729 c1283-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have tabled Amendment 153ZAKA in this group. It is probing in nature and probably does n...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 729 c1284 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before the Minister responds, perhaps I may comment on the amendments which have just been...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c1269 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall certainly do that. With those replies, I hope that my noble friend will withdraw h...

Lord Lucas | 729 c1269 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am very grateful to my noble friend for her answers. I shall write to her saying what el...

Lord Greaves | 729 c1270 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it seems a long time since I introduced this group of amendments and it has been a very in...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 729 c1282 (Link to this contribution) 152ZE: Schedule 10, page 318, line 3, at end insert— ““( ) a statement of consultation undertaken on...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 729 c1285 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for her response. We look forward to the consultation on the...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c1285-6 (Link to this contribution) 152B: Schedule 10, page 318, line 26, at end insert— ““(2) If— (a) a proposal by a qualifying body i...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c1284-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I can be reasonably helpful over all of these amendments. On the first amendment, the nobl...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c1287 (Link to this contribution) 153AJ: Schedule 11, page 331, line 8, after ““by”” insert ““sub-paragraphs (2) to (5) of”” 153AK: ...

Lord Greaves | 729 c1287 (Link to this contribution) 153ZZAKA: Clause 102, Page 80, line 40, leave out ““may”” and insert ““must””

Baroness Hanham | 729 c1286 (Link to this contribution) 153AA: Schedule 10, page 324, line 27, after ““14”” insert ““, and (if applicable) an additional ref...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c1286-7 (Link to this contribution) 153AF: Schedule 10, page 326, line 29, at end insert— ““14A (1) The additional referendum mentioned ...

Lord Greaves | 729 c1289 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, without actually going back to it and looking it up, I do not think so. If that is what it...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 729 c1288 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, has raised a series of what seem to be quite pertinent quest...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c1289-90 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I can probably enlighten the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, on what his amendment was about whe...

Lord Greaves | 729 c1290 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for her reply but it does not really take us much further than we can...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c1290 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will certainly write. Regarding the four organisations that have already received the mo...

Lord Greaves | 729 c1290-1 (Link to this contribution) That is fair enough. When you put down amendments to delete pieces of Bills to probe things, it is s...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c1291-2 (Link to this contribution) 153AL: Schedule 12, page 336, line 19, leave out ““section 61F or 61G”” and insert ““any of sections...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 729 c1292 (Link to this contribution) 153AM: Clause 107, page 84, leave out lines 33 to 35 and insert— ““Consultation: code of best practi...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 729 c1292 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall discuss with this amendment the three others in the group. I can deal with Amendme...

Lord Renfrew of Kaimsthorn | 729 c1292-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise to speak to Amendment 153B, which is grouped with the amendments of my noble friend...

Lord Boyd of Duncansby | 729 c1293-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak briefly to Amendment 153AM and to express some sympathy with it. I very much...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 729 c1294 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we support the thrust of the amendment of the noble Lord, Lord Renfrew, about local planni...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c1251 (Link to this contribution) 149D: Schedule 9, page 313, line 32, leave out ““section 61F or 61G”” and insert ““any of sections 6...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c1250-1 (Link to this contribution) 149B: Schedule 9, page 313, line 16, after ““14”” insert ““or 14A”” 149C: Schedule 9, page 313, li...

Lord Renfrew of Kaimsthorn | 729 c1250 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful for the various contributions. I am particularly grateful that the noble Bar...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c1249-50 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we are hugely sympathetic to the whole question of heritage. The noble Baroness and I disc...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 729 c1249 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this has been a short but fascinating debate. The noble Lord, Lord Newton, said that he ha...

Lord Greaves | 729 c1252-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I was discussing this matter when, some time ago, the Chief Whip suggested that I should s...

Lord Geddes | 729 c1251 (Link to this contribution) I think you will find it at the bottom of page 13.

Lord Lucas | 729 c1252 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 152ZC looks at how you take the structures of this Bill and produce something of interest ...

Lord Lucas | 729 c1251 (Link to this contribution) 150: Schedule 9, page 314, line 17, at end insert— ““( ) after subsection (4) insert— ““(4A) If ther...

Lord Lucas | 729 c1251 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak also to my other amendments in the group. Amendment 150 is, to some extent,...

Lord Lucas | 729 c1254-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am a little puzzled, because the noble Baroness was kind enough to allow me a meeting wi...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c1253-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am not aware that there is anything to stop views being gathered up about neighbourhood ...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c1255 (Link to this contribution) I am disappointed that the noble Lord, Lord Lucas, is disappointed. If he has had consultations that...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 729 c1253 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I should like to comment briefly on parishes. I can see the strength of the argument that ...

Lord True | 729 c1253 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the spirit of my noble friend's amendments, particularly Amendments 150 and 167,...

Lord Lucas | 729 c1256 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am happy to accept that. I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment 150 withdrawn...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c1256 (Link to this contribution) 150A: Schedule 9, page 314, line 44, leave out from ““if”” to ““have”” in line 1 on page 315 and ins...

Lord Greaves | 729 c1256 (Link to this contribution) 150F: Schedule 9, page 316, line 17, at end insert— ““( ) In preparing a neighbourhood development p...

Lord Greaves | 729 c1256-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, In moving Amendment 150F, I shall speak to the other three in the group in my name; they a...

Lord Whitty | 729 c1260-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have tabled three amendments in this group. I apologise that I missed my amendments in t...

Baroness Whitaker | 729 c1260 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in supporting Amendments 152ZA and 153ZA on the crucial aspect of the good design of the p...

Lord Best | 729 c1259-60 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise to speak to Amendments 152ZA and 153ZA, which concern the design considerations in ...

Lord Newton of Braintree | 729 c1261 (Link to this contribution) That is a slightly separate question of what they feel about their area at the time, which clearly o...

Baroness Whitaker | 729 c1261 (Link to this contribution) Would the noble Lord agree that if local people participate in the choice of the design, as is good ...

Lord Newton of Braintree | 729 c1261 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, unusually, because I nearly always agree with almost everyone who has spoken, I want to ex...

Lord Marlesford | 729 c1261 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I strongly support the very wise words of the noble Lord, Lord Best. I shall give an examp...

Lord Boyd of Duncansby | 729 c1262 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I did not intend to intervene in this debate about design, but I have been prompted by the...

Lord Marlesford | 729 c1262 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may say to my noble friend that what was lacking in those days was, frankly, design. The o...

Baroness Hamwee | 729 c1262 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will avoid getting into a discussion about design. However, I would like to ask a questi...

Lord Boyd of Duncansby | 729 c1262-3 (Link to this contribution) I was not suggesting that we necessarily follow the Prince of Wales, but the very fact that he has p...

Lord Berkeley | 729 c1262 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I remind my noble and learned friend Lord Boyd that however good or bad we think the Princ...

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 729 c1263-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the amendments of the noble Lord, Lord Best. He made a powerful statement about ...

Lord Brooke of Sutton Mandeville | 729 c1263 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as there was no Conservative name on Amendments 152ZA and 153ZA, I am happy to join the no...

Lord True | 729 c1264-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have three amendments in this group. On Amendment 153ZC, which relates to the weight giv...

Lord Lucas | 729 c1264 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I wish to speak briefly to Amendment 153. I would be very grateful if my noble friend coul...

Lord Brooke of Sutton Mandeville | 729 c1266 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in my excitement over design and Denys Lasdun, I failed to speak to Amendment 152D in my n...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 729 c1265-6 (Link to this contribution) This has been an interesting group of amendments. I certainly support the amendments of my noble fri...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c1266-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank all noble Lords for a very interesting debate. It has circled around a number of a...

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 729 c1267 (Link to this contribution) I absolutely understand what my noble friend is saying, but she will understand that a local communi...

Lord Greaves | 729 c1240 (Link to this contribution) On this question of voting, if there is a small business, a corner shop, for example, where the shop...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c1240 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not know if the scheme we are running can do that. I will check and I will write to t...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 729 c1240 (Link to this contribution) If, for example, a supermarket had two different establishments in a particular area, they might be ...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c1240 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, if the referendums are on different subjects, I think that is where the duplication came f...

Baroness Valentine | 729 c1240-1 (Link to this contribution) I support the government amendments but would like to make one suggestion about simplification. Ther...

Lord Lucas | 729 c1238 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I understand that we are under pressure of time and I am totally in support of getting thi...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 729 c1239-40 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I might ask the noble Baroness a question on this. I am sorry, I think it applies ...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c1239 (Link to this contribution) 148ZB: Schedule 9, page 305, leave out lines 5 and 6 and insert— ““(5) If— (a) there are two applica...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c1239 (Link to this contribution) 148ZA: Schedule 9, page 304, line 37, leave out from ““if”” to ““have”” in line 1 on page 305 and in...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c1236-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will start with the points made by the noble Lord, Lord Lucas. Certainly, neighbourhood ...

Lord Lucas | 729 c1236 (Link to this contribution) I think that the noble Lord, Lord Berkeley, is being entirely too untrusting of communities and of t...

Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 729 c1238 (Link to this contribution) Would the noble Baroness allow us to dispose of the existing amendment first? She can move her amend...

Lord Berkeley | 729 c1238 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I would like to add another question. I listened very carefully to the noble Lord, Lord Gr...

Lord Greaves | 729 c1238 (Link to this contribution) I asked two questions. If a neighbourhood development order gives outline planning permission, which...

Lord Greaves | 729 c1232-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have more than a few amendments in this group. Again, I shall not refer specifically to ...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 729 c1231-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendments 150E, 152ZD, 152AA and 152BA. As we have discussed, invol...

Lord Berkeley | 729 c1236 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I listened very carefully to what the noble Lords, Lord Greaves and Lord Lucas, said on th...

Lord Brooke of Sutton Mandeville | 729 c1247-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak first to Amendment 152ZZA in my own name, which is a probing amendment, befo...

Baroness Andrews | 729 c1246-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord for so beautifully moving the amendment. I only just manag...

Lord Renfrew of Kaimsthorn | 729 c1245 (Link to this contribution) 148B: Schedule 9, page 311, line 4, at end insert ““, and ( ) development that would be likely to ha...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c1245 (Link to this contribution) 148AF: Schedule 9, page 309, line 43, leave out ““and 61G”” and insert ““to 61GA”” Amendment 148AF ...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c1244 (Link to this contribution) 148AA: Schedule 9, page 307, leave out line 24 148AB: Schedule 9, page 307, line 31, at end insert...

Lord Greaves | 729 c1243-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful for that response, but the answer was not exactly what I was expecting. I th...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c1245 (Link to this contribution) 148AE: Schedule 9, page 309, line 34, at end insert— ““61GA Neighbourhood areas designated as busine...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c1244-5 (Link to this contribution) 148AC: Schedule 9, page 307, line 45, after ““designations”” insert ““(or withdrawals of designation...

Lord Greaves | 729 c1242 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in moving Amendment 148ZE, I will also speak to Amendments 148ABA, 150C and 152C in the sa...

Lord Greaves | 729 c1241 (Link to this contribution) 148ZE: Schedule 9, page 305, line 15, after ““with,”” insert ““the Equality Act 2010,””

Baroness Hanham | 729 c1241 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have two responses to give. The first response is to my noble friend Lord Greaves, who a...

Lord Beecham | 729 c1241 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry to add to the Minister's burdens, but I would like a little clarification. In her recent ...

Lord True | 729 c1225-6 (Link to this contribution) That may be the case and I apologise if the drafting is not clear. What I had in mind is a 5 per cen...

Lord Shipley | 729 c1224-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak specifically to Amendment 148ADBA because it is another aspect of the proble...

Lord True | 729 c1225 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have three amendments in this group. They are all deigned to build greater flexibility i...

Lord Beecham | 729 c1226 (Link to this contribution) It does not say that.

Lord True | 729 c1226-7 (Link to this contribution) I apologise. I am not good at drafting but I do want to press on and let the House make progress. W...

Lord Beecham | 729 c1226 (Link to this contribution) No, because you could have 5 per cent of Newcastle or Richmond concentrated in part of the authority...

Lord True | 729 c1226 (Link to this contribution) Sorry, I did not make myself clear. The 5 per cent would have to have been in the area to be designa...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 729 c1222-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, when I put down this clause stand part debate, I might have anticipated that the previous ...

Lord Greaves | 729 c1223-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as the noble Lord knows well, his remarks are shared by myself and my Liberal Democrat col...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c1228-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I confirm that I was right that wards can divide themselves or be divided into more than o...

Lord Greaves | 729 c1230 (Link to this contribution) 148ZZEA: Schedule 9, page 304, line 20, at beginning insert ““Subject to subsection (14),””

Baroness Hanham | 729 c1231 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I think that the short answer to my noble friend's question is that I understand that the ...

Lord Greaves | 729 c1231 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am not sure that that is a satisfactory answer. I thank my noble friend for it but there...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 729 c1231 (Link to this contribution) 148ZZF: Schedule 9, page 304, line 24, after ““permission”” insert ““to implement the policies or pr...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 729 c1227 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will be brief. First, can I say how much we appreciate the effort that the noble Lord, L...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c1227-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank noble Lords for their brevity in introducing these amendments. I do not think that...

Lord Newton of Braintree | 729 c1228 (Link to this contribution) I apologise but whatever may be true in towns, perhaps I might give a direct illustration. My wife's...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c1214-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank all noble Lords for their contributions on this immense number of amendments now b...

Lord Newton of Braintree | 729 c1212 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, so as to avoid the risk of upsetting everyone, I promise to be very brief. I want to make ...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 729 c1212-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we have Amendments 148AZZD and 148AZB in this group, but before I touch on them perhaps I ...

Lord Brooke of Sutton Mandeville | 729 c1210-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, having listened to the other speeches that have been made on amendments in this grouping, ...

Earl of Lytton | 729 c1211-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have no brief from anyone, but I declare an interest in that I am chairman of a very sma...

Lord Beecham | 729 c1209 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I follow the noble Lords, Lord Jenkin and Lord True, in expressing some concern about the ...

Lord Lucas | 729 c1209-10 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thoroughly agree with my noble friend Lord Newton of Braintree. Good existing relationsh...

Lord Beecham | 729 c1219 (Link to this contribution) It might when we come to Amendment 148AE later.

Baroness Hanham | 729 c1219 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, if they were included in the area, they would be part of that business forum. If it was de...

Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 729 c1220-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hesitate to interrupt my noble friend because I know that he has great experience of the...

Lord Greaves | 729 c1221 (Link to this contribution) The Chief Whip is absolutely right. We will have discussions later.

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 729 c1221 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may say that the mood of the House on this side is not to delay the Bill but to make sure ...

Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 729 c1221 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, proper scrutiny is what we are all about, of course. My noble friend has just given an ext...

Lord Newton of Braintree | 729 c1220 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I would still like to know how we will define the group of persons stated in the Bill as w...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c1220 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, lots of areas are places where people would like to live and where they aspire to live. Ne...

Lord Lucas | 729 c1220 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I may pick up on what my noble friend has been saying. I am puzzled as to how busi...

Lord Greaves | 729 c1220 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have a few brief points. I agree with the point made by the noble Lord, Lord Lucas, in t...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c1219-20 (Link to this contribution) My noble friend Lord True asked about the extent to which the regulations would lead to a one-size-f...

Lord True | 729 c1221-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we have had a lengthy debate, but this is one of the most fundamentally important aspects ...

Lord Bassam of Brighton | 729 c1202 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, with the leave of the House, perhaps I may say that today's list has a target set at Amend...

Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 729 c1202 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, might I intervene? It is customary, if one wishes to ask general questions, to do so on th...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 729 c1201-2 (Link to this contribution) 148ZZC: Clause 100, page 79, line 20, at end insert— ““( ) In section 209 (liability: interpretation...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 729 c1202 (Link to this contribution) Not moved.

Lord Bassam of Brighton | 729 c1202 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am normally very courteous in your Lordships' House and I do not wish to trespass on its...

Baroness Hayman | 729 c1203 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord, Lord Jenkin, said ““not moved”” in relation to Amendment 148ZZC. I do not want to ta...

Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 729 c1202 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Lord the Opposition Chief Whip for saying that the Opposition are keen to...

Lord True | 729 c1203-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendment 148AZZF. We are approaching a critical new section of the ...

Lord True | 729 c1203 (Link to this contribution) 148ZZZEA: Clause 101, Page 80, line 38, at end insert— ““( ) Where a local authority has a scheme or...

Baroness Whitaker | 729 c1207 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my Amendment 148AZZC relates to what the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, has been saying, which ...

Lord Greaves | 729 c1205-7 (Link to this contribution) I start by agreeing with pretty much everything that the noble Lord, Lord True, has just said. I hav...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 729 c1207-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have five amendments in this group and will deal with them extremely briefly, because th...

Lord Newton of Braintree | 729 c1208 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in what people will no doubt regard as my characteristically generalist way, I rise not to...

Baroness Valentine | 729 c1208-9 (Link to this contribution) I declare an interest as chief executive of London First, a business membership organisation includi...

Lord Greaves | 729 c1316 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I and my noble friend Lord Tope have five amendments in this group. In view of the time, a...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 729 c1296-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment 153D concerns retrospective planning permissions. It says that, where there is a...

Lord Greaves | 729 c1287-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak also to the other amendments in the group. These amendments are about charge...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 729 c1255 (Link to this contribution) I am not quite sure why the noble Lord concluded that we have a lack of interest in developing commu...

Lord Newton of Braintree | 729 c1247 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I may briefly extend my support to my noble friend. I had better confess that I am...

Lord Renfrew of Kaimsthorn | 729 c1246 (Link to this contribution) I beg the pardon of the noble Baroness. In due course I shall invite her to make her own observation...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c1245 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, somewhere with as much residential accommodation attached to it as Kensington High Street ...

Lord Lucas | 729 c1245 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, since the noble Baroness has not spoken to this amendment, perhaps I may ask a question. W...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c1243 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, for his amendments and the noble Lord, Lord McKenzie...

Lord Lucas | 729 c1229-30 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am very disappointed that my noble friend is not paying more mind to the amendments of m...

Lord Beecham | 729 c1219 (Link to this contribution) What of the case that I put of a business area with discrete residential areas on either side? What ...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 729 c1310 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Borrie, for introducing this amendment and my noble friend Lo...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 729 c1304 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in moving the amendment, I thought that it would be useful if I also spoke to the other am...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 729 c1268 (Link to this contribution) As I understand it, they have to be consistent with the strategies in the local development plan. Do...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 729 c1238-9 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Baroness for her response. The more we got into the amendments moved by the noble ...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c1238 (Link to this contribution) I ask noble Lords to withdraw the amendments that they have put forward on the basis of my responses...

Lord Lucas | 729 c1235-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have three amendments in this group. Amendment 151 is quite simple. I am interested in t...

Lord Renfrew of Kaimsthorn | 729 c1245-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this is a probing amendment which has been tabled with the intention of exploring what see...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 729 c1242-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Minister might say that these issues are otherwise covered in legislation. If they are...

Lord Beecham | 729 c1225 (Link to this contribution) Can the noble Lord help the House with a little explanation of the effect of Amendment 148ADA? It in...

Lord Greaves | 729 c1230 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this is a small group. In moving Amendment 148ZZEA, I wish to speak also to Amendments 148...

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