Equality Bill. Committee stage third day. Clauses 30 to 82 agreed to, with clauses 60, 64, 69, 77, 79 agreed to as amended. Schedules 2 to 7 agreed to, with schedule 3 agreed to as amended.
Equality Bill
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716 c878-949,964-86
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2009-10
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Committee stage
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Equality Bill. Explanatory Notes Bill 5-EN also published.
Thursday, 19 November 2009
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Thursday, 19 November 2009
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House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 716 c928 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am a little shocked by the noble Lord’s speech as I had thought that being a Privy Couns...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 716 c928-30 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, perhaps I should speak to the government amendments now—and perhaps I should call the nobl...
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Lord Hunt of Wirral | 716 c930 (Link to this contribution)
Have I been promoted?
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 716 c924 (Link to this contribution)
That was a very helpful outline. In the circumstances, I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.
Amend...
Baroness Thornton | 716 c924 (Link to this contribution)
The noble and learned Lord is correct. It is to do with co-ordination to make sure that we marry the...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 716 c925-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, we now turn to the much discussed provisions regarding pre-employment inquiries and their ...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 716 c924 (Link to this contribution)
64: Clause 55, page 36, line 14, at end insert—
"( ) An employment service-provider must not ask for...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 716 c921-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the amendment seeks to leave out subsection (1) of Clause 37, which gives Scottish Ministe...
Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 716 c924 (Link to this contribution)
This is an excellent provision in so far as Scotland is concerned, and I congratulate the Minister o...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 716 c934-5 (Link to this contribution)
I am very grateful to the noble Baroness. My noble and learned friend has explained not only that "r...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 716 c933 (Link to this contribution)
There is a time factor—I beg your pardon—of one year after the cessation of fits. I think in that ca...
Lord Low of Dalston | 716 c934 (Link to this contribution)
On that point, it is clear that the clause makes it admissible to ask questions about health but tha...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 716 c933 (Link to this contribution)
I have more answers, but you are welcome to speak.
Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 716 c934 (Link to this contribution)
The noble Baroness mentioned an answer to the noble Baroness, Lady Knight of Collingtree, on the que...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 716 c934 (Link to this contribution)
No, I do not think it does mean that applicants have to have received less favourable treatment befo...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 716 c933 (Link to this contribution)
There is a time factor.
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 716 c933 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to noble Lords for their welcome of the government amendments, which have been crafted...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 716 c931 (Link to this contribution)
Before the Minister answers that, perhaps she will agree with me that "reasonable" is used throughou...
Baroness Knight of Collingtree | 716 c931 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, in the name of consistency, and because the word "reasonable" always worries me and becaus...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 716 c930-1 (Link to this contribution)
Yes, you have been promoted. This is an Equality Bill.
I suggest that Amendment 64, tabled in the n...
Baroness Gould of Potternewton | 716 c932-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I did raise this issue at Second Reading as chair of the Independent Advisory Group on Sex...
Lord Low of Dalston | 716 c931-2 (Link to this contribution)
As the Minister—indeed, the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster—has said, these amendments have bee...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 716 c936-7 (Link to this contribution)
69A: Clause 60, page 40, line 10, leave out subsections (1) to (4) and insert—
"(1) A person (A) to ...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 716 c937 (Link to this contribution)
70: Clause 64, page 43, line 17, leave out "colleague" and insert "comparator"
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 716 c937-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I shall speak to government Amendments 72, 75, 78, 79, 93, 94, 95 and 96 as well, alongsid...
Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 716 c942 (Link to this contribution)
I entirely agree with the substitution of comparator for colleague. The fact that it has been change...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 716 c942-3 (Link to this contribution)
I thank all noble Lords who have participated in this brief debate. The noble Baroness, Lady Morris,...
Baroness Morris of Bolton | 716 c943 (Link to this contribution)
I think I probably did mean Amendment 74. That is where we need clarity.
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 716 c939-41 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am very grateful to the Minister; I shall endeavour in a single speech to speak to all t...
Baroness Morris of Bolton | 716 c942 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister very much for the explanation of her amendments, which we welcome. I look forwa...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 716 c942 (Link to this contribution)
I should like to say what a pleasure it was to hear the noble Lord, Lord Lester, setting out as clea...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 716 c935 (Link to this contribution)
Does the noble Lord accept that when you have issues that involve a spectrum of choices as a matter ...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 716 c936 (Link to this contribution)
The noble Baroness has not made it clear whether the photograph referred to by her and the noble Lor...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 716 c936 (Link to this contribution)
I am not sure that the noble Baroness and I could be part of the same Privy Council. I understand th...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 716 c935-6 (Link to this contribution)
I was just checking. The noble Baroness nodded when I said that. Perhaps there is a reshuffle going ...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 716 c935 (Link to this contribution)
I think this is a resignation issue for me as international chairman of the English Speaking Union. ...
Baroness Butler-Sloss | 716 c935 (Link to this contribution)
On a not entirely serious point, the word "reasonable" is entirely reasonable if correctly spelt. It...
Baroness Thornton | 716 c946-7 (Link to this contribution)
I wish to move government Amendment 80B, speak to government Amendments 81A, 81B, 82A, and refer to ...
Viscount Ullswater | 716 c947 (Link to this contribution)
I advise the Committee that if this amendment is agreed to I will not be able to call Amendment 81 b...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 716 c947 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Minister, who has given me a lot to think about. My amendments are probably too...
Baroness Thornton | 716 c948 (Link to this contribution)
Yes, it would include representatives of the other unions as the noble Lord has described. The aim i...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 716 c948 (Link to this contribution)
This is my fault; I have not focused on this. Are there words that say that in the amendment?
Baroness Thornton | 716 c948 (Link to this contribution)
We think the amendment covers those, but I will check.
Baroness Turner of Camden | 716 c948 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the noble Baroness for this amendment and for what has been said in support of it by my nobl...
Baroness Butler-Sloss | 716 c948-9 (Link to this contribution)
I am having slight difficulty in understanding Clause 77, because the word "colleague", to me, would...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 716 c949 (Link to this contribution)
I support these amendments. It may be that the noble Lord, Lord Lester, has not yet quite clarified ...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 716 c943 (Link to this contribution)
I welcome the clarity that this debate has brought, and I welcome the clarity that the noble Lord ha...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 716 c944-5 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Howe, the noble and learned Lord, Lord Mackay, and the Government f...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 716 c945-6 (Link to this contribution)
78: Clause 69, page 45, leave out lines 39 to 41
79: Clause 69, page 46, line 1, leave out "(2)" a...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 716 c945 (Link to this contribution)
72: Clause 64, page 43, line 19, leave out "colleague" and insert "comparator"
Amendment 72 agreed....
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 716 c945 (Link to this contribution)
74: Clause 64, page 43, line 19, at end insert—
"(2) The references in subsection (1) to the work th...
Baroness Thornton | 716 c946 (Link to this contribution)
80B: Clause 77, page 49, line 31, leave out from "that" to end of line 33 and insert "purports to pr...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 716 c974-5 (Link to this contribution)
As a fellow vegetarian, I say that of course we are disappointed with the attitude displayed by the ...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 716 c973-4 (Link to this contribution)
I hope that it is convenient for me to speak now. I have two main points. First, the Government’s po...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 716 c970-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, with permission, I will speak to Amendments 87 and 89, proposed by the noble Baronesses, L...
Lord King of West Bromwich | 716 c970 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, as it stands, this clause is only about the gender gap, and subsection (1) only places a d...
Baroness Turner of Camden | 716 c969-70 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I do not want to add anything to what the noble Lord has just said. I would like, however,...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 716 c967-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, at this late hour I cannot muster sufficient disappointment and indignation, as I feel, ab...
Baroness Morris of Bolton | 716 c965-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I speak to Amendment 87 and the other amendments in my name and the name of my noble frien...
Baroness Morris of Bolton | 716 c965 (Link to this contribution)
87: After Clause 77, insert the following new Clause—
"Equal pay audit following contravention by em...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 716 c965 (Link to this contribution)
86: Clause 77, page 50, line 14, leave out subsection (6)
Amendment 86 agreed.
Clause 77, as amend...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 716 c965 (Link to this contribution)
82A: Clause 77, page 49, line 39, leave out subsections (3) and (4) and insert—
"( ) The following a...
Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall | 716 c964 (Link to this contribution)
If Amendment 81B is agreed to, I cannot call Amendment 82 by reason of pre-emption.
Amendment 81B
...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 716 c964 (Link to this contribution)
81A: Clause 77, page 49, line 33, at end insert—
"( ) A term of a person’s work that purports to pre...
Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall | 716 c964-5 (Link to this contribution)
If Amendment 82A is agreed to, I cannot call Amendments 83, 84 and 85.
Amendment 82A
Moved by
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 716 c964 (Link to this contribution)
81B: Clause 77, page 49, line 34, leave out from "A" to "whether" in line 36 and insert "disclosure ...
Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 716 c949 (Link to this contribution)
I think the only restriction is that it has to be a relevant pay disclosure. In other words, it is w...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 716 c949 (Link to this contribution)
What is the limit on that? If that is right, what is not covered by that?
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 716 c949 (Link to this contribution)
I am satisfied with that.
Amendment 80B agreed.
House resumed.
Clause 77: Discussions with collea...
Baroness Thornton | 716 c949 (Link to this contribution)
The noble and learned Lord is absolutely correct.
Baroness Thornton | 716 c949 (Link to this contribution)
Our amendment removes "colleague" except in relation to a request to another colleague to discuss pa...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 716 c949 (Link to this contribution)
I thank both noble Lords for what they have just said. My proposal goes too wide, there is no doubt ...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 716 c981-2 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Minister and to everyone who has spoken in this short debate. The Women’s Natio...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 716 c980-1 (Link to this contribution)
All noble Lords this evening have made a persuasive case in favour of representative actions. We cer...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 716 c976 (Link to this contribution)
92: After Clause 78, insert the following new Clause—
"Representative actions in equal pay claims
(1...
Baroness Morris of Bolton | 716 c975 (Link to this contribution)
I am most grateful to the Minister for her careful consideration of these amendments. The noble Baro...
Baroness Turner of Camden | 716 c977-8 (Link to this contribution)
I support the ideas behind this amendment—we heard what the noble Lord, Lord Lester, had to say abou...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 716 c976-7 (Link to this contribution)
I say straight away that Amendment 92 is defective and will therefore need to be reconsidered. It is...
Baroness Flather | 716 c978-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I, too, should like to add a word of support. At a meeting with the Solicitor-General befo...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 716 c979-80 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it is my great pleasure to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Howe of Idlicote, because she w...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 716 c979 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support the intention behind this amendment. The more I think about the years we have wa...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 716 c985 (Link to this contribution)
I agree with the speech we have just heard from the noble Lord, Lord Hunt of Wirral. In the old days...
Baroness Thornton | 716 c985-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am pleased to speak on Amendment 97, tabled by my noble friend Lady Gibson. We had a flu...
Baroness Gibson of Market Rasen | 716 c983-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, in speaking to the amendment I return to the theme of equality representatives in the work...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 716 c984-5 (Link to this contribution)
I share the concerns expressed by the noble Baroness, Lady Gibson of Market Rasen. I should declare ...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 716 c982 (Link to this contribution)
93: Clause 79, page 51, line 6, leave out "colleague of A’s only" and insert "comparator"
94: Clau...
Baroness Gibson of Market Rasen | 716 c982-3 (Link to this contribution)
97: After Clause 81, insert the following new Clause—
"Time off for trade union equality representat...
Baroness Gibson of Market Rasen | 716 c986 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank the noble Lords, Lord Hunt and Lord Lester, for their positive contributions to th...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 716 c897 (Link to this contribution)
Does the Minister agree that the fact that there are idiotic bodies around which misinterpret the la...
Lord Elton | 716 c897 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, we need a definition of what is a silly person. What appears to be a silly person to noble...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 716 c897-8 (Link to this contribution)
I agree. That is why, when we debated the Equality Bill last time, I advocated taking out the notion...
Baroness Thornton | 716 c898 (Link to this contribution)
The noble and right reverend Lord makes a good point—a point I was trying to make—that you cannot al...
Baroness Thornton | 716 c897 (Link to this contribution)
We are clarifying a great deal in the Bill, including the issues raised in the debates that we have ...
Lord Lea of Crondall | 716 c897 (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps my noble friend can clarify one further point. There is support on all sides of the Committe...
Baroness Thornton | 716 c897 (Link to this contribution)
My noble friend makes an important point. The Bill and the guidance and codes which will flow from i...
Bishop of Winchester | 716 c892 (Link to this contribution)
This would take us into quite another issue. To what extent are your Lordships’ House and the other ...
Baroness Warsi | 716 c892-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, we have heard an extremely interesting speech from the noble Lord, Lord Alton, which has c...
Lord Warner | 716 c892 (Link to this contribution)
Can the right reverend Prelate explain why he thinks that there should not be some limitation on any...
Baroness Warsi | 716 c896-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, does the Minister accept that, among other things, the Bill is an opportunity to clarify? ...
Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 716 c894 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I congratulate the Government on holding fast to their clause which is subject to the amen...
Baroness Thornton | 716 c895-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the primary focus of the amendment in the name of the noble Lords, Lord Alton and Lord Wad...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 716 c892 (Link to this contribution)
Can the right reverend Prelate, the Bishop of Winchester, explain to me whether he is then opposed t...
Bishop of Winchester | 716 c892 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the noble Lord for asking that question. I am very happy about Clause 29 with the m...
Lord Alton of Liverpool | 716 c887-8 (Link to this contribution)
It is precisely because cases like the ones I have just described have come before the courts or tri...
Lord Waddington | 716 c888-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, It is unfortunately the case that equality legislation, while giving certain people new ri...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 716 c889-90 (Link to this contribution)
I, of course, share many of the sentiments of the noble Lord, Lord Alton, about some of the ludicrou...
Baroness Hayman | 716 c891 (Link to this contribution)
It might be helpful to the Committee if I remind it that no application has been made or granted to ...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 716 c883-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful for the broad support from all Benches for the government amendments. My nob...
Lord Alton of Liverpool | 716 c884 (Link to this contribution)
58ZA: Schedule 3, page 137, line 42, at end insert—
"(g) the celebration or marking of any religious...
Lord Alton of Liverpool | 716 c884-6 (Link to this contribution)
I tabled Amendment 58ZA as a practical response to a real and growing problem. Although I attended m...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 716 c887 (Link to this contribution)
As another example, could the noble Lord explain which bit of the present law he thinks is coercive ...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 716 c883 (Link to this contribution)
We strongly support the government amendments. I just add that when the noble Lord, Lord Low, sounds...
Baroness Warsi | 716 c883 (Link to this contribution)
We welcome these amendments from the Government and thank the Minister for her introduction to them....
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 716 c881-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I wish to speak to Amendments 58, 107, 108 and 108EA.
Currently, local authorities and sc...
Baroness Wilkins | 716 c882 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I strongly welcome these amendments, which implement a key recommendation of the Lamb revi...
Baroness Warsi | 716 c880 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am not sure whether this is on the internet, so I look forward to the reply from the Min...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 716 c881 (Link to this contribution)
58: Schedule 3, page 137, line 27, leave out paragraph (b)
Baroness Warsi | 716 c880 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank the Minister for her reply. There has been some clarification, but I note with con...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 716 c880 (Link to this contribution)
Many of the draft codes of practice are now on the internet for consultation, so I refer noble Lords...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 716 c879-80 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, we considered this same amendment in Committee in the other place, and I welcome the oppor...
Baroness Warsi | 716 c878 (Link to this contribution)
57B: Schedule 2, page 132, leave out lines 25 to 27 and insert—
"( ) to remove the feature, or
( ) t...
Lord Low of Dalston | 716 c882-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this is something for which I called at Second Reading, so I naturally very much welcome t...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 716 c921 (Link to this contribution)
60ZB: Clause 37, page 20, line 25, leave out subsection (1)
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 716 c920 (Link to this contribution)
60ZA: Schedule 3, page 146, line 19, at end insert—
"( ) But provision by virtue of subsection (1) m...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 716 c920-1 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, Schedule 3 currently contains a power for a Minister of the Crown to make an order varying...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 716 c921 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, perhaps I may ask the noble Baroness if there was ever any intention to use this part. I a...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 716 c921 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the power as a whole is necessary to allow for new and unforeseen circumstances that may a...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 716 c918-9 (Link to this contribution)
We are delighted that the amendments standing in my name and that of noble Baroness, Lady Howe, have...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 716 c919 (Link to this contribution)
59: Schedule 3, page 145, line 17, leave out paragraph 30
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 716 c919-20 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the amendment is tabled in order to ask the Minister why there is a need to replicate prov...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 716 c920 (Link to this contribution)
I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.
Amendment 59 withdrawn.
Amendment 60 had been withdrawn fro...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 716 c918 (Link to this contribution)
I am told later this year. I cannot give a timescale. What I will try to do is come back to noble Lo...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 716 c915 (Link to this contribution)
I am sorry to interrupt, but I did not point out, as I should have done, that my amendment is concer...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 716 c915 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I was very interested to hear the speech by the noble Lord, Lord Lester. As he knows, we h...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 716 c914-5 (Link to this contribution)
This amendment needs to be considered together with Amendments 113 and 114, which were tabled by the...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 716 c914 (Link to this contribution)
58C: Schedule 3, page 145, line 11, at end insert—
"Part 6A
Television, radio and on-line broadcasti...
Lord Sentamu | 716 c916 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I, too, support the noble Lord, Lord Lester. I am glad that he has converted at last to th...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 716 c916 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I second the amendment in my name and that of the noble Lord, Lord Lester, and I thought t...
Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 716 c916 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am glad to notice that the noble Lord, Lord Lester, has made an exception to his general...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 716 c915-6 (Link to this contribution)
That is quite correct. The amendment tabled by the noble Lord, Lord Lester, would mean that a broadc...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 716 c918 (Link to this contribution)
I am following of course what the noble Baroness is saying, but it would be helpful to get some idea...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 716 c916-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, Amendment 58C will provide an exception for broadcasters, such as the BBC and Channel 4, f...
Baroness Gould of Potternewton | 716 c909-10 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I rise to tidy up another piece of the Bill, following the right reverend Prelate. I very ...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 716 c911 (Link to this contribution)
In view of what the right reverend Prelate the Bishop of Southwark, said about the way in which lega...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 716 c910-1 (Link to this contribution)
I share and endorse the comments of the noble Baroness, Lady Gould, on the welcome importance of the...
Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 716 c911 (Link to this contribution)
I think that the present provisions are related to what was referred to rather politely as an "under...
Baroness Thornton | 716 c911-3 (Link to this contribution)
I will speak to both Amendment 58A and Amendment 58B, but before I do, may I say to the noble Lord, ...
Baroness Thornton | 716 c913 (Link to this contribution)
"Reasonable" is a legal expression that will be used as a test should this come to court. We are try...
Bishop of Southwark | 716 c913 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Government for accepting this amendment.
Amendment 58A, as amended, agreed.
Amendment ...
Bishop of Southwark | 716 c907 (Link to this contribution)
58A: Schedule 3, page 143, line 2, at end insert—
"Part 5A
Marriage
Gender reassignment
A person doe...
Lord Ramsbotham | 716 c907 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Minister for that explanation. Having read the debate in the other place and th...
Baroness Thornton | 716 c907 (Link to this contribution)
I absolutely undertake to reflect on that issue. The noble Lord has made a very interesting point.
...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 716 c906-7 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for her explanation. We will come back to this on Report, but I just ask her to...
Baroness Thornton | 716 c904-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, currently paragraph 16 of Schedule 3 provides a limited exception to the prohibition on di...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 716 c903-4 (Link to this contribution)
These amendments raise a very important issue about the principle of proportionality as it should ap...
Viscount Simon | 716 c909 (Link to this contribution)
Amendment 58B is an amendment to Amendment 58A.
Baroness Gould of Potternewton | 716 c909 (Link to this contribution)
58B: Schedule 3, line 8, at end insert—
"(2) A person (A) whose consent to the solemnisation of the ...
Bishop of Southwark | 716 c908-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, my right reverend friend the Bishop of Winchester has had to return to his diocese and so ...
Lord Alton of Liverpool | 716 c900 (Link to this contribution)
I recognise what the noble Lord, Lord Lester of Herne Hill, said. We both agree that it is ludicrous...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 716 c900 (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps I may reassure the noble Lord that the Human Rights Act, which brings into our law the Europ...
Baroness Warsi | 716 c898 (Link to this contribution)
I do not wish to detain the Minister much longer but I wish to make two points. First, it was guidan...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 716 c903 (Link to this contribution)
I welcome the amendments of my noble friend Lord Ramsbotham and support the points that he has raise...
Lord Ramsbotham | 716 c900 (Link to this contribution)
58ZB: Schedule 3, page 139, line 8, at end insert—
"as long as any decision or thing done is a propo...
Baroness Warsi | 716 c902-3 (Link to this contribution)
First, I make it clear that we support the Government in retaining the reservation. We supported the...
Lord Ramsbotham | 716 c900-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I declare an interest as a member of the Independent Asylum Commission because it was in t...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 716 c936 (Link to this contribution)
For the record, in response to the noble Baroness, Lady Knight, on the question of epilepsy, I am no...
Lord Harries of Pentregarth | 716 c898 (Link to this contribution)
Many of your Lordships will accept the argument of the Government but will not be happy to say that ...
Bishop of Winchester | 716 c891-2 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for the Lord Speaker’s wise advice. I welcome the existing range of sub-paragraphs (a)...
Baroness Thornton | 716 c922-4 (Link to this contribution)
Amendment 60ZB would remove a power conferred on Scottish Ministers that would permit them to establ...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 716 c935 (Link to this contribution)
This was no criticism. I clarify to the noble Lord that I was merely explaining in a way that I hope...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 716 c945 (Link to this contribution)
75: Clause 69, page 45, line 32, leave out from "factor" to end of line 34 and insert "reliance on w...
Baroness Butler-Sloss | 716 c978 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I strongly support the thrust of the amendments of the noble Lord, Lord Lester, even thoug...
Baroness Warsi | 716 c879 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, Amendment 57B makes more active the requirement to make reasonable adjustments for those w...
Baroness Knight of Collingtree | 716 c913 (Link to this contribution)
The word "reasonable" worries me. My experience is that what is reasonable to one person is often no...
Lord Alton of Liverpool | 716 c898-900 (Link to this contribution)
The contributions to the debate on this amendment demonstrate the worth of having discussed this iss...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 716 c934 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the noble and learned Lord for clarifying that point. Clearly, it is a usual use of...
Baroness Gould of Potternewton | 716 c913 (Link to this contribution)
There is nothing for me to add. I thank the Government for accepting the amendment.
Amendment 58B a...
Baroness Campbell of Surbiton | 716 c932 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I also strongly welcome the Government’s amendments, again—I had better not make it a habi...
Baroness Morris of Bolton | 716 c948 (Link to this contribution)
When this clause about discussion with colleagues was discussed in another place, we put on record o...
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