Debate on a motion to consider the matter of European Affairs.
European Affairs
Debate on Tuesday, 16 June 2009,
in the House of Commons,
led by David Miliband.
The answering
member was Lord Hague of Richmond.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
494 c183-271 
Session
2008-09
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Proceeding contributions
Speaker | 494 c208 (Link to this contribution)
Order. May I remind all right hon. and hon. Members that Mr. Speaker has imposed a 20-minute time li...
Speaker | 494 c221 (Link to this contribution)
Order. Before I call the hon. Member for West Bromwich, West (Mr. Bailey), I want to give notice tha...
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Lord Deben | 494 c200 (Link to this contribution)
Does my right hon. Friend accept that some of us who are in favour of the Lisbon treaty and against ...
Lord Hague of Richmond | 494 c199 (Link to this contribution)
I do deplore the common fisheries policy, as the hon. Gentleman knows, and we have long argued that ...
Mike Gapes | 494 c200 (Link to this contribution)
Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
Lord Hague of Richmond | 494 c200 (Link to this contribution)
In a moment.
At the European elections, the Conservative party, which campaigned for the British pe...
Lord Hague of Richmond | 494 c200 (Link to this contribution)
I promised to give way to the Chairman of the Foreign Affairs Committee.
Mike Gapes | 494 c200 (Link to this contribution)
Is the right hon. Gentleman pleased or disappointed that opinion polls in the Irish Republic indicat...
Lord Hague of Richmond | 494 c200 (Link to this contribution)
I am not going to try to tell the Irish voters how to vote—nor, after the experience of the Irish re...
Bob Spink | 494 c199 (Link to this contribution)
Does the right hon. Gentleman agree that the common fisheries policy has led to the wholesale destru...
Bob Spink | 494 c199 (Link to this contribution)
Will the right hon. Gentleman allow me?
Lord Hague of Richmond | 494 c199 (Link to this contribution)
I will allow him. This is the House of Commons.
Lord Hague of Richmond | 494 c197-8 (Link to this contribution)
No. I am about to say a lot about European affairs. I do not think that the House is in any particul...
Lord Hague of Richmond | 494 c198 (Link to this contribution)
I will try to move on from the subject in a moment, but hon. Members seem to want to intervene on it...
Angela C Smith | 494 c197 (Link to this contribution)
Is the right hon. Gentleman so fixated on the affairs of the Labour Government and the Foreign Secre...
Baroness Stuart of Edgbaston | 494 c198 (Link to this contribution)
While we are entertaining ourselves with the misfortunes of our prospective opponents' parties, may ...
Lord Hague of Richmond | 494 c198-9 (Link to this contribution)
I am not normally a betting man, but I will take that bet with the hon. Lady. I have no doubt about ...
Lord Robathan | 494 c198 (Link to this contribution)
To whom does my right hon. Friend think that the right hon. Member for Pontypridd (Dr. Howells) was ...
Lord Hague of Richmond | 494 c198 (Link to this contribution)
From the context of the letter, the right hon. Member for Pontypridd seemed to have a great many of ...
Keith Simpson | 494 c196 (Link to this contribution)
He was sacked anyway!
Lord Hague of Richmond | 494 c196 (Link to this contribution)
No, this was not in last week's speech. I can tell the right hon. Gentleman that there is much more ...
Lord Hague of Richmond | 494 c196-7 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Member for Rotherham (Mr. MacShane) was sacked as Europe Minister, but the right hon....
David Miliband | 494 c193-4 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. and learned Gentleman does himself no service. He is a former Foreign Secretary. He t...
Denis MacShane | 494 c196 (Link to this contribution)
This was in last week's speech.
Lord Hague of Richmond | 494 c194-6 (Link to this contribution)
The coming European Council will consider a wide range of issues, as the Foreign Secretary has expla...
Keith Vaz | 494 c197 (Link to this contribution)
This is not an application for my old job. Even though the Minister for Europe is in another place—w...
Lord Hague of Richmond | 494 c197 (Link to this contribution)
I will give way to another former Europe Minister—one of the 11 in 12 years.
Lord Hague of Richmond | 494 c197 (Link to this contribution)
We do have the top guy here, but as is evident from what I quoted, we only just have the top guy her...
John Redwood | 494 c191 (Link to this contribution)
The Foreign Secretary mentioned democracy: may we have some in Europe? Why do the Irish have to vote...
David Miliband | 494 c191 (Link to this contribution)
I am glad that the hon. Gentleman knows that. The one thing I would say to him is that co-operation ...
David Miliband | 494 c191 (Link to this contribution)
I have a lot of respect for the hon. Gentleman, and I would be happy to talk to him after the debate...
Tobias Ellwood | 494 c191 (Link to this contribution)
I understand where the Foreign Secretary is coming from, but as someone who has just come back from ...
David Miliband | 494 c191 (Link to this contribution)
I certainly do not think that there is any mission creep in talking about humanitarian help, governa...
Malcolm Rifkind | 494 c193 (Link to this contribution)
The Foreign Secretary must be fair if he is going to quote selectively from my right hon. and learne...
David Miliband | 494 c192-3 (Link to this contribution)
Very simply, in the same way as the Conservative Government did in 1992 with a decision on Maastrich...
Bernard Jenkin | 494 c192 (Link to this contribution)
Can the Foreign Secretary explain how the EU or the member states can give legal guarantees to the I...
David Miliband | 494 c192 (Link to this contribution)
I am glad that the right hon. Gentleman has brought me on to this topic, because there is unfinished...
David Miliband | 494 c188 (Link to this contribution)
I am happy to allow my hon. Friend to intervene, but I must then make some progress.
David Miliband | 494 c188-9 (Link to this contribution)
As my hon. Friend knows, the answer to both those questions is no. The old saying "no compromise wit...
Ian Davidson | 494 c188 (Link to this contribution)
Does the Secretary of State believe that the results of the European elections were a ringing endors...
David Miliband | 494 c189 (Link to this contribution)
It certainly is for the Iranian people to choose their own Government, and for that to be done in a ...
Malcolm Rifkind | 494 c189 (Link to this contribution)
The EU has in the past adopted a quite successful common position with regard to dialogue with Iran....
David Miliband | 494 c189-90 (Link to this contribution)
As my hon. Friend knows, it is certainly the position of the UK Government that settlement activity ...
Mike Gapes | 494 c189 (Link to this contribution)
On the middle east peace process, does the Foreign Secretary agree that there is a need not just for...
David Miliband | 494 c190 (Link to this contribution)
My right hon. Friend makes an important point. I am sure that he will have read carefully, as I have...
Denis MacShane | 494 c190 (Link to this contribution)
I very much welcome that last point about aiming for a free trade agreement with Pakistan, on which ...
Tobias Ellwood | 494 c190-1 (Link to this contribution)
Many of us will be pleased to hear about initiatives regarding Pakistan, but there is a question as ...
David Miliband | 494 c187 (Link to this contribution)
They did, and for the next five years they will have the MEPs for whom they voted. That is the way i...
Nigel Evans | 494 c187 (Link to this contribution)
They did make their choice.
David Miliband | 494 c187 (Link to this contribution)
I certainly agree with that. As I shall make clear later, I think it incumbent on those of us who di...
Angela C Smith | 494 c187 (Link to this contribution)
We are currently witnessing the passing on of many members of the generations who saw Europe torn ap...
Bernard Jenkin | 494 c187-8 (Link to this contribution)
While the Foreign Secretary reflects on the fact that if he walks down the street he is unlikely to ...
David Miliband | 494 c187 (Link to this contribution)
I am blessed with too many interventions.
David Miliband | 494 c188 (Link to this contribution)
The answer to that question is that the European Union has spent the last seven or eight years debat...
Baroness Stuart of Edgbaston | 494 c210 (Link to this contribution)
Certainly, but my argument is a much wider one, about the disengagement from the political processes...
Mark Lazarowicz | 494 c210 (Link to this contribution)
As it happens, I agree with my hon. Friend the Member for Glasgow, South-West (Mr. Davidson) that th...
Baroness Stuart of Edgbaston | 494 c210-1 (Link to this contribution)
First, can we please stop using the labels "Eurosceptic" and "Europhobe"? They are completely and ut...
Robert Goodwill | 494 c211 (Link to this contribution)
I speak as a former Member of the European Parliament. There are two reasons why the electorate feel...
Baroness Stuart of Edgbaston | 494 c211-2 (Link to this contribution)
I agree with the hon. Gentleman, but only up to a point. I would love to blame the press, but on thi...
Peter Bone | 494 c213 (Link to this contribution)
There is no Europe Minister here.
Baroness Stuart of Edgbaston | 494 c210 (Link to this contribution)
I give way to my Scottish colleague.
Ian Davidson | 494 c210 (Link to this contribution)
We are both Scottish colleagues. There are perhaps two things that we can take out of the European e...
Ed Davey | 494 c215-6 (Link to this contribution)
I was not insulting the Irish people, of course, and I am not surprised that the hon. Gentleman disa...
Sammy Wilson | 494 c216 (Link to this contribution)
I notice the relish with which the hon. Gentleman contemplates the discomfort that he believes the C...
Ed Davey | 494 c214-5 (Link to this contribution)
I totally disagree with that analysis of economic history. I think it was only when we started getti...
William Cash | 494 c215 (Link to this contribution)
If I may say so, I think that the hon. Gentleman is effectively insulting the Irish people by referr...
Ed Davey | 494 c216-7 (Link to this contribution)
We have certainly debated that many times, and the hon. Gentleman will know that we have just campai...
Ed Davey | 494 c213-4 (Link to this contribution)
I did not say that European issues were not debated; I think that they should have been debated more...
Kelvin Hopkins | 494 c214 (Link to this contribution)
Does the hon. Gentleman not accept that what actually happened in the 1930s was heavy deflation, par...
Ed Davey | 494 c213 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman makes a very good point, but I would point out that the noble Baroness Thatcher, ...
Ian Davidson | 494 c213 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman said that the discussions and decisions in the European elections were nothing to...
Adrian Bailey | 494 c205 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the right hon. Gentleman. It is generous of him to give way at this stage in his speech. May...
Lord Hague of Richmond | 494 c205 (Link to this contribution)
As I mentioned a few moments ago, I do not believe that there is a huge difference of opinion on tha...
Lord Hague of Richmond | 494 c205 (Link to this contribution)
I said that I was not going to give way much more, but go on.
Ed Davey | 494 c205 (Link to this contribution)
I have a lot of agreement with the right hon. Gentleman, particularly about the need for greater con...
Lord Hague of Richmond | 494 c205 (Link to this contribution)
We certainly support greater co-ordination, but we do not want to see the end of national supervisio...
Lord Hague of Richmond | 494 c205 (Link to this contribution)
I feel that I have spoken for a long time, but I shall give way one more time.
Lord Hague of Richmond | 494 c204-5 (Link to this contribution)
I suspect that there is a great deal of truth in what my right hon. Friend says. In fact, there clea...
Kelvin Hopkins | 494 c205-6 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the right hon. Gentleman. Would he go further and say that rather than being at the margins,...
Baroness Stuart of Edgbaston | 494 c210 (Link to this contribution)
I am not so convinced. We did not have local elections in my constituency, and the result was essent...
Baroness Stuart of Edgbaston | 494 c209 (Link to this contribution)
Precisely, but everybody pretends that there are. Similarly, when one tries to explain to the Britis...
Peter Bone | 494 c209-10 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Lady is making an interesting and well-thought-out argument, but I would question her on on...
Baroness Stuart of Edgbaston | 494 c208-9 (Link to this contribution)
It is a great honour to follow the right hon. Member for Richmond, Yorks (Mr. Hague). Many of us in ...
Ed Davey | 494 c209 (Link to this contribution)
There aren't any.
Lord Hague of Richmond | 494 c207-8 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Gentleman and I differ in our philosophy of Europe. I see no contradiction between th...
Lord Hague of Richmond | 494 c206-7 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman will know that I will go part way with him on that. Of course we should stay well...
Denis MacShane | 494 c207 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for that part of the right hon. Gentleman's speech. It is a substantive, major contrib...
Lord Hague of Richmond | 494 c200 (Link to this contribution)
My right hon. Friend puts his point fairly and powerfully. It is the making of such promises and the...
Lord Hague of Richmond | 494 c200 (Link to this contribution)
I must give way. The right hon. Gentleman referred earlier to "Hamlet" without the prince, and a Eur...
Lord Hague of Richmond | 494 c201 (Link to this contribution)
Yes I can, actually. There is no proposal to that effect, and no discussions about that party being ...
Denis MacShane | 494 c201 (Link to this contribution)
Alas, poor Hague! I knew him well.
The right hon. Gentleman referred to moral authority. On 14 June...
Lord Hague of Richmond | 494 c201 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend can rest assured that nothing that any other colleague has said contradicts the expla...
William Cash | 494 c201 (Link to this contribution)
In November 2005, the leader of our party spoke categorically about an imperative policy in relation...
John Redwood | 494 c202 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the shadow Foreign Secretary for giving way. Will he use this opportunity to send a...
Lord Hague of Richmond | 494 c202 (Link to this contribution)
Those countries must make their own decisions; it is not for us to dictate to them what their decisi...
Ian Davidson | 494 c202 (Link to this contribution)
As the right hon. Gentleman is aware, I am and was in favour of a referendum. However, unless I am m...
Ian Davidson | 494 c202 (Link to this contribution)
I take it that the right hon. Gentleman's reply was not a yes or a no—it was either a "don't know" o...
Lord Hague of Richmond | 494 c202 (Link to this contribution)
As the hon. Gentleman is one of those in the Labour party who stands for making some compromise with...
Lord Hague of Richmond | 494 c202 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman will recall that we were being asked that question a year ago, on the grounds tha...
Lord Deben | 494 c203 (Link to this contribution)
Did my right hon. Friend notice that not a single Member from the Labour party cried that there woul...
Lord Hague of Richmond | 494 c202 (Link to this contribution)
I think I should move on, but I shall give way; I shall then make some progress.
Lord Hague of Richmond | 494 c202 (Link to this contribution)
It is simply that we have not ruled that in or out. That is the correct position when faced with tha...
Lord Hague of Richmond | 494 c203-4 (Link to this contribution)
My right hon. Friend may be pleased to know that I did notice that, but I have noticed that for a go...
David Heathcoat-Amory | 494 c204 (Link to this contribution)
I think that I can help my right hon. Friend and the House, because we have the draft conclusions, a...
Kelvin Hopkins | 494 c183 (Link to this contribution)
Angela Merkel has been critical of the way in which Britain has addressed the crisis, yet the econom...
Lembit Opik | 494 c184 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Gentleman has made an important point about exports and imports. Germany is quite dep...
David Miliband | 494 c184 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman makes an important point about the headline figures on jobs in the car industry, ...
David Heathcoat-Amory | 494 c184 (Link to this contribution)
Does the Foreign Secretary accept that the United Kingdom faces some extremely unwelcome proposals o...
David Miliband | 494 c184-5 (Link to this contribution)
I do not accept that we are isolated, certainly not on the basis of the discussion that I had at the...
Adrian Bailey | 494 c185 (Link to this contribution)
Does my right hon. Friend agree that, in relation to the European economic recovery package, Britain...
David Miliband | 494 c185 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend makes a good point. It is important not to believe the fallacy that is sometimes prom...
David Miliband | 494 c185 (Link to this contribution)
I give way to the hon. Member for Kingston and Surbiton (Mr. Davey).
David Miliband | 494 c186 (Link to this contribution)
I think we will come on to that a little later. I can assure the hon. Gentleman, however, that there...
Baroness Stuart of Edgbaston | 494 c186-7 (Link to this contribution)
Before my right hon. Friend moves on to looking towards the autumn and the new Commission President,...
David Miliband | 494 c185 (Link to this contribution)
I hope I do not disappoint the hon. Gentleman if I say that the Government also believe that whereas...
William Cash | 494 c185-6 (Link to this contribution)
As the Foreign Secretary knows, President Barroso has made the EU's position crystal clear, as he st...
David Miliband | 494 c187 (Link to this contribution)
I am sure I do not need to remind the hon. Gentleman that general elections are the way in which we ...
David Miliband | 494 c187 (Link to this contribution)
There is a minimal level of service that is the entitlement of all Members of the European Parliamen...
Nigel Evans | 494 c187 (Link to this contribution)
Following the crushing defeats experienced by the Government on 7 June, when the results of the Euro...
Ed Davey | 494 c218 (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps there has been a resignation that we did not hear about.
Not only will the Conservative par...
David Wilshire | 494 c218 (Link to this contribution)
I apologise for not hearing the beginning of the hon. Gentleman's clearly uncontroversial speech. He...
Ed Davey | 494 c217 (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps the hon. Gentleman has left the group. The Conservatives are in favour of leaving lots of gr...
Peter Bone | 494 c217 (Link to this contribution)
I am not a member of the Better Off Out group.
Ed Davey | 494 c218-9 (Link to this contribution)
I cannot, because I do not know the details. However, I believe that the Conservative party is in be...
Ed Davey | 494 c217 (Link to this contribution)
I happily give way to the hon. Gentleman.
Ed Davey | 494 c217 (Link to this contribution)
Given that the hon. Gentleman is a member of the Better Off Out group, I am not surprised that he ta...
Peter Bone | 494 c217 (Link to this contribution)
I was following the hon. Gentleman's speech with some interest until I lost the thread. Why should a...
Adrian Bailey | 494 c221-2 (Link to this contribution)
Thank you for calling me, Mr. Deputy Speaker, and let me say that I think my remarks should fall wel...
William Cash | 494 c222 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Adrian Bailey | 494 c222 (Link to this contribution)
How could I resist the entreaties of a fellow member of the European Scrutiny Committee?
Robert Goodwill | 494 c219 (Link to this contribution)
As a former deputy co-ordinator for the Group of the European People's Party and European Democrats ...
Ed Davey | 494 c219 (Link to this contribution)
I assure the hon. Gentleman that we are waiting, with great interest. However, he must bear in mind ...
William Cash | 494 c219 (Link to this contribution)
What worse possible route could we adopt than enlarging the European Union to bring in Croatia and A...
Ed Davey | 494 c219-20 (Link to this contribution)
I am afraid it is time the hon. Gentleman woke up, because we are at present subjected to the appall...
Peter Bone | 494 c220 (Link to this contribution)
Human trafficking is a serious issue. I am a member of the all-party group on trafficking of women a...
Ed Davey | 494 c220-1 (Link to this contribution)
Well, we can address it only by co-operating with other EU countries; I would have thought that that...
David Heathcoat-Amory | 494 c228 (Link to this contribution)
No, that is not my reading of the results at all. Rejectionist parties made a clear advance in other...
David Heathcoat-Amory | 494 c225-8 (Link to this contribution)
I do indeed. Frustration is building up, which was demonstrated in the recent European election resu...
Mark Lazarowicz | 494 c228 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the right hon. Gentleman for giving way, not least because I had to miss the beginn...
David Heathcoat-Amory | 494 c225 (Link to this contribution)
I entirely agree with the hon. Gentleman who has an honourable history of standing up for economic s...
William Cash | 494 c225 (Link to this contribution)
Is my right hon. Friend aware that in a recent opinion poll 72 per cent. of the British public belie...
David Heathcoat-Amory | 494 c224 (Link to this contribution)
These debates can on occasion become ritualistic, but today's has real significance because it takes...
Kelvin Hopkins | 494 c225 (Link to this contribution)
I agree with the right hon. Gentleman that this is all about power, but power is about more than ele...
Speaker | 494 c222 (Link to this contribution)
Order. That was an excessively long intervention, given that we are time-limited. Perhaps the Proced...
Adrian Bailey | 494 c222-4 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman potentially opens up a lengthy debate. All I can say is that these issues are pro...
William Cash | 494 c222 (Link to this contribution)
I am most grateful to the hon. Gentleman. I, too, have a great interest in the mutuals; my family fo...
Mike Gapes | 494 c232 (Link to this contribution)
I did not say that there was a wave of Euro-enthusiasm. I said that the situation was complex, and m...
Tobias Ellwood | 494 c232 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Mike Gapes | 494 c230-1 (Link to this contribution)
I agree absolutely with everything that the hon. Lady said. The Serbian Government have a clear fore...
Mike Gapes | 494 c232 (Link to this contribution)
I will give way, but I am conscious of time. I want to make one more point, and I do not get any mor...
David Heathcoat-Amory | 494 c232 (Link to this contribution)
Just a quick question: how does the hon. Gentleman square the wave of Euro-enthusiasm that he descri...
Mike Gapes | 494 c228-9 (Link to this contribution)
One problem with these European debates is that we are like two peoples speaking completely differen...
Sammy Wilson | 494 c229 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the hon. Gentleman for giving way, and I apologise for interrupting the flow of his rhetoric...
Mike Gapes | 494 c229-30 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for that intervention, as it allows me to develop an argument th...
Jo Swinson | 494 c230 (Link to this contribution)
I am listening to what the hon. Gentleman is saying with great interest, especially with regard to t...
Ian Davidson | 494 c245 (Link to this contribution)
Is my hon. Friend suggesting that if a Conservative Government were returned at the next election an...
Mark Lazarowicz | 494 c243-5 (Link to this contribution)
I agree that there is a real risk of that situation developing. That is why it is essential that we ...
Robert Walter | 494 c239-42 (Link to this contribution)
I am interested to hear the hon. Gentleman's view on that.
Today I want to deal with a question of ...
Mark Lazarowicz | 494 c242-3 (Link to this contribution)
One of the issues that will be high up the agenda for the meeting at the end of this week will be cl...
Robert Walter | 494 c239 (Link to this contribution)
I do not propose to say much about the European Union, although I want to talk about European affair...
Chris Bryant | 494 c239 (Link to this contribution)
And so we shall in future.
Mark Lazarowicz | 494 c238 (Link to this contribution)
There are only two of them.
Ian Davidson | 494 c238 (Link to this contribution)
There are more than two of them; in fact, there are more UKIP voters than Liberal Democrat voters. D...
Ian Davidson | 494 c238 (Link to this contribution)
As my hon. Friend knows, I am much more charitable than he is on almost all issues, so I am inclined...
Kelvin Hopkins | 494 c238 (Link to this contribution)
To reinforce my hon. Friend's points, I should say that recent estimates of the total misappropriati...
Ian Davidson | 494 c236-7 (Link to this contribution)
I would certainly draw on one point, because I remember that the Scottish National party was in fact...
Mark Lazarowicz | 494 c238 (Link to this contribution)
Is not my hon. Friend being untypically charitable to the Conservative party? Given the number of ti...
Ian Davidson | 494 c238 (Link to this contribution)
I am always glad to have my points reinforced. It is perfectly clear that the level of extravagance ...
Robert Walter | 494 c233 (Link to this contribution)
And the anthem.
David Wilshire | 494 c233-5 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend mentions the anthem as well.
The Council of Europe is being upstaged by the European...
Ian Davidson | 494 c235-6 (Link to this contribution)
It is a matter of great regret to me that the Government's policy can best be characterised as "no c...
Mark Lazarowicz | 494 c236 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend draws attention to the political pattern in the United Kingdom. What conclusion would...
Mike Gapes | 494 c232 (Link to this contribution)
No. I cannot give way any more. The reality of the situation in the European Union elections was com...
David Wilshire | 494 c232-3 (Link to this contribution)
I always find these debates fascinating. I see that the Annunciator says "European Affairs", but the...
Tobias Ellwood | 494 c255 (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps the hon. Gentleman would allow me to finish my sentence. If he is keen to have a referendum,...
Tobias Ellwood | 494 c253-4 (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure and honour to participate in this debate. Having listened to the previous speakers,...
David Leslie Taylor | 494 c250 (Link to this contribution)
Unfortunately, a BNP county councillor was elected in North-West Leicestershire, in the heart of the...
Austin Mitchell | 494 c250-3 (Link to this contribution)
I am not defending the BNP; I am trying to explain the nature of the vote. What will happen when peo...
Tobias Ellwood | 494 c255 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman posed the same question to my right hon. Friend the Member for Richmond, Yorks (M...
Tobias Ellwood | 494 c255 (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps the hon. Gentleman has an answer.
Ian Davidson | 494 c255 (Link to this contribution)
I seek to propose a question. The hon. Gentleman said that he is in full support of his Front-Bench ...
Austin Mitchell | 494 c249-50 (Link to this contribution)
I strongly agree with the point made by my hon. Friend the Member for Glasgow, South-West (Mr. David...
William Cash | 494 c248-9 (Link to this contribution)
That may well be the case in the country at large, but it is certainly not the case in this Parliame...
David Drew | 494 c248 (Link to this contribution)
I am sorry that I have come late to this debate, but I have been on a Standing Committee. Given the ...
Mark Lazarowicz | 494 c245 (Link to this contribution)
In the unlikely event of a Conservative Government being returned at the next election, not holding ...
Mark Lazarowicz | 494 c245 (Link to this contribution)
It surprises my hon. Friend as much as it surprises me.
Secondly, we need to tackle reform of the E...
William Cash | 494 c246 (Link to this contribution)
Listening to the hon. Member for Edinburgh, North and Leith (Mark Lazarowicz) and his explanation of...
William Cash | 494 c246-7 (Link to this contribution)
No, I shall not give way to the hon. Gentleman—he talked enough rubbish previously.
In July 1990, b...
Ian Davidson | 494 c247 (Link to this contribution)
Let me clarify the hon. Gentleman's position. As I understand it, he is saying that if the Conservat...
William Cash | 494 c247-8 (Link to this contribution)
That is why I passed a note to my right hon. Friend the Member for Richmond, Yorks (Mr. Hague)—becau...
Kelvin Hopkins | 494 c260-1 (Link to this contribution)
Indeed. I should perhaps have said Bedfordshire; I stand corrected.
If the deflationist tendencies ...
Kelvin Hopkins | 494 c260 (Link to this contribution)
There are debates about whether that would be illegal or acceptable. If there is a monetary union wi...
Mark Francois | 494 c264 (Link to this contribution)
I do not want the Chairman of the Foreign Affairs Committee to spoil my flow, but I will of course g...
Mark Francois | 494 c263-4 (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure to wind up this debate on behalf of Her Majesty's Opposition. I am particularly ple...
Andrew Turner | 494 c262 (Link to this contribution)
My first point is about the European common fisheries policy, which has completely failed. Only last...
David Drew | 494 c262 (Link to this contribution)
I shall not, because I want to give the hon. Member for Isle of Wight at least a couple of minutes.
...
Robert Walter | 494 c262 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
David Drew | 494 c261-2 (Link to this contribution)
I shall be brief in order to allow the hon. Member for Isle of Wight (Mr. Turner) to speak.
I was i...
Tobias Ellwood | 494 c255-7 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Lady just glosses over the fact that the Irish are being given a second chance, as if they ...
Baroness Stuart of Edgbaston | 494 c255 (Link to this contribution)
At least the Irish have been given a second chance to have a say. The Dutch and the French, who also...
Robert Walter | 494 c260 (Link to this contribution)
For the past five minutes or so, I have listened to the hon. Gentleman's tale of doom about what is ...
Kelvin Hopkins | 494 c259-60 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is absolutely right. The Social Democrats are in coalition with the Christian Democra...
Baroness Stuart of Edgbaston | 494 c260 (Link to this contribution)
May I add to the debate? The monetary union is not a credit and debt union. Bail-outs have not yet h...
Kelvin Hopkins | 494 c260 (Link to this contribution)
I am speaking about what will have to be done to keep the eurozone a reality. If the smaller, weaker...
Tobias Ellwood | 494 c257-8 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman repeated all the jokes that we heard from the Foreign Secretary, and they were no...
Ed Davey | 494 c257 (Link to this contribution)
Would the hon. Gentleman be quite happy if Conservative MEPs sat with the Law and Justice party from...
David Drew | 494 c258 (Link to this contribution)
Does my hon. Friend accept that there is at least a note of irony here? It would appear that Chancel...
Kelvin Hopkins | 494 c258 (Link to this contribution)
It has been a long wait to be called, but worth it.
I am very pleased to say that, in my borough of...
Chris Bryant | 494 c267-8 (Link to this contribution)
As much as the hon. Gentleman entices me, and as much as he and I can disagree about European matter...
Chris Bryant | 494 c269 (Link to this contribution)
If the hon. Gentleman does not mind, I have so many issues to reply to, and I was rather snootily—
Chris Bryant | 494 c268-9 (Link to this contribution)
I was going to make the further point that not only actions in this country are necessary if we are ...
Kelvin Hopkins | 494 c268 (Link to this contribution)
We would not have been able to do that inside the eurozone.
Ed Davey | 494 c270 (Link to this contribution)
indicated dissent.
Chris Bryant | 494 c269-70 (Link to this contribution)
On micro-prudential regulation, we believe it is important that no decisions taken by the new bodies...
Speaker | 494 c269 (Link to this contribution)
Order. The hon. Gentleman is clearly not giving way.
Chris Bryant | 494 c270-1 (Link to this contribution)
Yes, it has. I travelled on the Eurostar from Paris last week, and I know that there are British bor...
Mark Francois | 494 c264-5 (Link to this contribution)
We are not rejecting them—[Interruption.] We are not; I shall answer the question directly. Some mon...
Mike Gapes | 494 c264 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman mentioned the good results for the conservative parties in France and Germany. Gi...
Mark Francois | 494 c266 (Link to this contribution)
I give way to the hon. Gentleman, who said clearly that Labour refused to compromise with the electo...
Ian Davidson | 494 c266 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Mark Francois | 494 c266 (Link to this contribution)
My right hon. Friend the Member for Richmond, Yorks, was asked almost exactly the same question at t...
Ian Davidson | 494 c266 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman indicated that he was in favour of clear answers. May I seek a clear answer from ...
Mark Francois | 494 c266-7 (Link to this contribution)
No, I do not have time.
The Prime Minister will go to the European Council, where he will have diff...
Baroness Stuart of Edgbaston | 494 c266 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Mark Francois | 494 c267 (Link to this contribution)
I assure the Under-Secretary that I look forward to vigorous debate with him, but there will be no w...
Chris Bryant | 494 c267 (Link to this contribution)
It is a great delight to follow the hon. Member for Rayleigh (Mr. Francois). I gather that he partic...
Ed Davey | 494 c212-3 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Member for Birmingham, Edgbaston (Ms Stuart) has made in interesting speech. People who des...
Lord Deben | 494 c202 (Link to this contribution)
Will my right hon. Friend give way?
Ed Davey | 494 c185 (Link to this contribution)
Will the right hon. Gentleman explain why the British Government are so against the proposals from t...
Jo Swinson | 494 c243 (Link to this contribution)
Does the hon. Gentleman agree that it is not just a question of sending a bad signal to other countr...
William Cash | 494 c269 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
David Miliband | 494 c183 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move,"That this House has considered the matter of European affairs."
I am pleased to open...
David Miliband | 494 c184 (Link to this contribution)
It certainly is not schadenfreude; we should be careful about that in these circumstances. Germany i...
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