Local Transport Bill (HL). Report stage. Government new clauses 9 to 19 and new clause 23 agreed to. Government amendments agreed to. Other amendments and new clauses 6, 7, 8 negatived on division. Third reading debate agreed to on division (313 votes to 143). Bill passed with amendments.
Local Transport Bill [Lords]
Debate on bills on Monday, 27 October 2008,
in the House of Commons,
led by Paul Clark.
The answering
member was Stephen Hammond.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
481 c568-699 
Session
2007-08
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Local Transport Bill (HL). As amended in Public Bill Committee.
Thursday, 8 May 2008
Bills
House of Commons
Thursday, 8 May 2008
Bills
House of Commons
Draft Local Transport Bill. Transport Select Committee ninth report in 2 volumes with proceedings, evidence (HC 692 i-v not printed separately) and appendices.
Wednesday, 25 July 2007
Parliamentary committees
House of Commons
Wednesday, 25 July 2007
Parliamentary committees
House of Commons
Draft Local Transport Bill. Transport Select Committee thirteenth special report - government response to the Committees ninth report of session 2006-07 (HC 692).
Wednesday, 10 October 2007
Parliamentary committees
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Wednesday, 10 October 2007
Parliamentary committees
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
Paul Clark | 481 c577-8 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the hon. Gentleman for welcoming me and the amendments; I am sure that if we had not introdu...
Norman Baker | 481 c576 (Link to this contribution)
By and large, I welcome the Government's proposals, which I think constitute a move in the right dir...
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Paul Clark | 481 c570 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.
Angela C Smith | 481 c581 (Link to this contribution)
I echo the comments made a moment ago by my hon. Friend the Member for Sheffield, Attercliffe (Mr. B...
Paul Clark | 481 c581-2 (Link to this contribution)
That is my understanding of the exact operation of the amendment. It affords protection from that ve...
Clive Betts | 481 c580 (Link to this contribution)
I was trying to tease an answer out of my hon. Friend on a second question. Is it the case that once...
Paul Clark | 481 c580 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is right that there would be no requirement to consult the operators again. In fact, ...
Ian Stewart | 481 c580 (Link to this contribution)
I thank my hon. Friend for his clear delineation of the role of the QCS boards, but can he assure me...
Paul Clark | 481 c580-1 (Link to this contribution)
The role of the QCS boards is clearly laid out. They judge whether due process has been followed and...
Paul Clark | 481 c580 (Link to this contribution)
I thank my hon. Friend for his comments in welcoming me to my post. How long the process takes will ...
Clive Betts | 481 c579-80 (Link to this contribution)
I congratulate my hon. Friend on his new post. I welcome the amendments and new clauses that the Gov...
Paul Clark | 481 c579 (Link to this contribution)
I assure my hon. Friend and the House that we are consulting our colleagues at the Ministry of Justi...
Paul Clark | 481 c579 (Link to this contribution)
The proposing transport authority will need to do a cost-benefit analysis using the five public inte...
Angela C Smith | 481 c579 (Link to this contribution)
I note my hon. Friend's comments a moment ago about the Transport Tribunal. May I push him a little ...
Louise Ellman | 481 c578 (Link to this contribution)
Will my hon. Friend clarify how the public interest criteria that he set out will be determined by e...
David Clelland | 481 c578 (Link to this contribution)
On the Transport Tribunal, my hon. Friend will be aware that the Tribunals, Courts and Enforcement A...
Speaker | 481 c570-6 (Link to this contribution)
With this it will be convenient to discuss the following: amendments (a) to (j) to Government new cl...
Ian Stewart | 481 c632 (Link to this contribution)
As has been pointed out, if the ITA has the power to decide that non-elected members can have voting...
Paul Clark | 481 c632-4 (Link to this contribution)
That is for the ITA to decide. I repeat that locally elected members will always be in the majority....
Stephen Hammond | 481 c634-6 (Link to this contribution)
I am glad to see the new clauses, although I would like slightly more clarification of certain parts...
Rob Marris | 481 c640 (Link to this contribution)
I am following what the hon. Gentleman is saying, but it appears to contradict his amendment No. 26,...
John Leech | 481 c640 (Link to this contribution)
Ideally, we would take the position that there should be no voting rights for unelected members; I s...
Clive Betts | 481 c640-1 (Link to this contribution)
I should like to make four big points. First, we have to be careful about the use of the term ““poli...
Graham Stringer | 481 c636-7 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend the Minister found himself in difficulties on this issue. I sympathise, because he wa...
Paul Truswell | 481 c637-8 (Link to this contribution)
Is there not another problem with the proposal—that it may fall victim to what I might call the That...
Graham Stringer | 481 c638-9 (Link to this contribution)
I entirely agree with my hon. Friend.
Transport proposals are often at the core of the most intense...
John Leech | 481 c639-40 (Link to this contribution)
I shall comment briefly on the proposed make-up of integrated transport authorities and the voting r...
Lee Scott | 481 c631 (Link to this contribution)
Would not the amendment tabled by my hon. Friend the Member for Wimbledon (Stephen Hammond) cover th...
Paul Clark | 481 c631 (Link to this contribution)
I find it difficult to accept that we should not include representatives of other organisations if t...
John Redwood | 481 c632 (Link to this contribution)
As someone who wants democracy to work, I too would like to be helpful. Given that the Minister is i...
Paul Clark | 481 c632 (Link to this contribution)
As I have said before, that will be an option for the ITA, as the rules and regulations set out. If ...
Angela C Smith | 481 c632 (Link to this contribution)
Although I would prefer elected members only to take part in votes, I understand the Government's de...
Paul Clark | 481 c632 (Link to this contribution)
In practice, I am sure that suggestions and guidance will be provided on how ITAs might be set up, b...
Louise Ellman | 481 c632 (Link to this contribution)
I shall try to help the Minister. Could the issue be interpreted in relation to Government amendment...
Rob Marris | 481 c631 (Link to this contribution)
I wish to tease this matter out by simplifying it for the Minister. In the west midlands, there are ...
Mark Hunter | 481 c629 (Link to this contribution)
A goodly number of hon. Members appear to share a concern that the Government are creating an unnece...
Paul Clark | 481 c630 (Link to this contribution)
I assure the hon. Gentleman that there is a clear response: it is a matter for local people—local, d...
Stephen Hammond | 481 c630 (Link to this contribution)
Let me try to help the Minister, because there is an easy solution to this matter. It is my amendmen...
Paul Clark | 481 c630 (Link to this contribution)
Equally, Labour Members believe that local authorities and local elected representatives should have...
John Leech | 481 c630 (Link to this contribution)
Could the Minister tell the House how many local authorities or passenger transport authorities have...
Paul Clark | 481 c630 (Link to this contribution)
I understand what the hon. Gentleman is asking, but I do not want to end up in a situation such as t...
Stephen Hammond | 481 c630 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister is clear in his determination to ensure that local authorities can decide which non-ele...
Paul Clark | 481 c630 (Link to this contribution)
If I recall correctly, such provisions exist within other local government legislation in respect of...
David Clelland | 481 c630 (Link to this contribution)
I am sorry to labour this point. I applaud the Minister for what he is saying about giving maximum f...
Paul Clark | 481 c631 (Link to this contribution)
I take on board my hon. Friend's comments. It is in the hands of local people to make these decision...
Graham Stringer | 481 c628 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to my hon. Friend for being generous in giving way on a difficult point. My concern is...
Paul Clark | 481 c628 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend raises an interesting point. If I recall correctly, the authorities themselves will b...
Graham Stringer | 481 c628 (Link to this contribution)
I have been puzzling over new clause 10(5) and (6) since I first read them. Subsection (6) clearly p...
Paul Clark | 481 c628 (Link to this contribution)
It will be for the local ITA to decide how that provision will operate. It might decide on voting ri...
Clive Betts | 481 c629 (Link to this contribution)
May I return to the previous issue? I realise that it is a tricky point, and I understand that the M...
Paul Clark | 481 c629 (Link to this contribution)
I thank my hon. Friend. I wish to be absolutely certain that it is clear that non-elected members of...
John Leech | 481 c628 (Link to this contribution)
Surely it would be far more straightforward to get that expertise on board with an ITA but give non-...
Paul Clark | 481 c628-9 (Link to this contribution)
That course of action would be open to individual ITAs. As I have said, it will be up to an ITA to d...
Paul Clark | 481 c629 (Link to this contribution)
I understand what my hon. Friend is saying. Nothing in life is easy, and all I can say to him is tha...
Ian Stewart | 481 c629 (Link to this contribution)
Hon. Members are labouring this point because some of us have experience of hung groups relating to ...
Lee Scott | 481 c695 (Link to this contribution)
Does my hon. Friend agree that the British public will be mightily disappointed about how little tim...
Stephen Hammond | 481 c695-6 (Link to this contribution)
Indeed. The Government have performed U-turn after U-turn on national road pricing so that they are ...
Norman Baker | 481 c696 (Link to this contribution)
I am pleased to have the opportunity to say that we on the Liberal Democrat Benches support the Bill...
Stephen Hammond | 481 c695 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Lady would do better to address those remarks to Labour Front Benchers, who gave us so litt...
Louise Ellman | 481 c695 (Link to this contribution)
Does the hon. Gentleman intend to deal with substantive issues, such as the fact that 40 per cent. o...
Stephen Hammond | 481 c695 (Link to this contribution)
The Secretary of State made an interesting speech. At least he recognised that the Opposition were e...
Geoffrey Hoon | 481 c694-5 (Link to this contribution)
As I said, I read the speech twice, and there is probably no time at this stage to perform a close t...
Geoffrey Hoon | 481 c694 (Link to this contribution)
I very much appreciate the 1 per cent. concession that he indicates he was willing to make.
As far ...
Clive Betts | 481 c694 (Link to this contribution)
Ninety-nine per cent. of it does.
Geoffrey Hoon | 481 c694 (Link to this contribution)
First, I pay tribute to my hon. Friend for the constructive way in which he has approached the Bill....
Clive Betts | 481 c693 (Link to this contribution)
I come from the city of Sheffield, where bus ridership has declined to a third of what it was before...
Roger Williams | 481 c693 (Link to this contribution)
On the question of decentralisation, and even devolution, I am sure that the Secretary of State welc...
Geoffrey Hoon | 481 c691-3 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move, that the Bill be now read the Third time.
I should begin by congratulating my right ...
Louise Ellman | 481 c693 (Link to this contribution)
Would my right hon. Friend give me an absolute assurance that in interpreting the public interest, n...
Geoffrey Hoon | 481 c693 (Link to this contribution)
The Bill is wholly consistent with the Government of Wales Act 1998 and the devolution of power to S...
Paul Clark | 481 c652 (Link to this contribution)
En passant, in connection with the amendments, that is one thing that has been reflected on in the H...
Greg Knight | 481 c652 (Link to this contribution)
If I may, I shall move the Minister ahead a little. If, by 9 o'clock, we have not reached new clause...
Paul Clark | 481 c652 (Link to this contribution)
That is one of the intentions and we made it clear that we would want to see it happen. Our purpose ...
Graham Stringer | 481 c652 (Link to this contribution)
Yet again, I am grateful to my hon. Friend for giving way. Will that guidance stop repeat and vexati...
Paul Clark | 481 c651-2 (Link to this contribution)
No. In other words, any secondary legislation amending legislation under those powers must be direct...
Norman Baker | 481 c651 (Link to this contribution)
Did you write this yourself?
Shona McIsaac | 481 c651 (Link to this contribution)
You do not have to.
Paul Clark | 481 c650-1 (Link to this contribution)
I will deal first with new clause 12. Government policy is to encourage efficient and effective work...
Speaker | 481 c650 (Link to this contribution)
With this it will be convenient to discuss the following: Government new clause 23—Financial penalty...
Paul Clark | 481 c650 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.
Paul Clark | 481 c651 (Link to this contribution)
I rather think I should. It would be wrong of me not to explain the amendments.
The Bill includes a...
Paul Clark | 481 c644 (Link to this contribution)
ITAs are responsible to local authorities and, ultimately, to the people whom they serve—the travell...
Paul Clark | 481 c645 (Link to this contribution)
No, I do not accept that because of the safeguards in the Bill that I hope we will pass today, and i...
John Leech | 481 c644 (Link to this contribution)
Would the Under-Secretary accept that, compared to the current arrangements for PTAs, the Government...
Paul Clark | 481 c644 (Link to this contribution)
That might be a good provision to be incorporated within the constitution of an ITA, but I want to t...
Rob Marris | 481 c644 (Link to this contribution)
Many of us would find it much more reassuring if my hon. Friend were able to give the House a commit...
Graham Stringer | 481 c643 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister give way?
Paul Clark | 481 c643 (Link to this contribution)
Amendment No. 13 would mean that non-elected members had no voting rights at all under any circumsta...
Graham Stringer | 481 c643 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend has been courteous throughout this long debate, but could he explain the purpose of t...
Paul Clark | 481 c643 (Link to this contribution)
Yes, on that point.
Paul Truswell | 481 c644 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend mentioned the sort of constituency that might be represented by co-opted members who ...
Clive Betts | 481 c641-2 (Link to this contribution)
In new clause 10, the Government are trying to set a better framework. Some on the Labour Benches ar...
Greg Knight | 481 c641 (Link to this contribution)
I agree with what the hon. Gentleman has said so far. Is not the problem that the Government are sta...
Stephen Hammond | 481 c643 (Link to this contribution)
Having listened carefully to the Minister, I am not sure that he has addressed the point raised by m...
Paul Clark | 481 c642-3 (Link to this contribution)
We have certainly had an interesting discussion about the provisions of integrated transport authori...
Paul Clark | 481 c588-9 (Link to this contribution)
The provision of the boards and the inclusion of due process and the five public interest criteria i...
Stephen Hammond | 481 c589-90 (Link to this contribution)
Yet again, the Minister has not answered my point about the Human Rights Act. I am sure that we will...
Stephen Hammond | 481 c590 (Link to this contribution)
Yes, but there are two points about that. One is that patronage in county council areas has increase...
Norman Baker | 481 c587 (Link to this contribution)
If the Conservatives form a Government, what will be their position if a quality contract has been e...
Stephen Hammond | 481 c587 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman and I share one ambition—that the next general election should be fairly soon. Ev...
Graham Stringer | 481 c587 (Link to this contribution)
As always, I am listening carefully to the hon. Gentleman. Does he accept that he is being inaccurat...
Stephen Hammond | 481 c587-8 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman might think so, but I do not agree. Several local authorities have formed a respo...
Angela C Smith | 481 c586 (Link to this contribution)
My point was this: if Labour Members are right and they prove to be successful, will the Conservativ...
Stephen Hammond | 481 c587 (Link to this contribution)
As I said, we do not believe that they will be successful. Throughout the passage of the Bill, I hav...
Stephen Hammond | 481 c586 (Link to this contribution)
I do not think that the local authorities would have any difficulty in putting in place a statutory ...
Angela C Smith | 481 c586 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the hon. Gentleman for giving way. If the quality contracts under this new law prove success...
Stephen Hammond | 481 c584-6 (Link to this contribution)
I welcome the Minister to his new role and commend him for his courage in taking on the Bill at this...
Norman Baker | 481 c586 (Link to this contribution)
All three parties agree that we are discussing a matter of last resort. However, I am struggling to ...
Norman Baker | 481 c583 (Link to this contribution)
The Liberal Democrats welcome the new clause as a sensible step in the right direction. My only ques...
Paul Clark | 481 c583-4 (Link to this contribution)
Obviously, in the situation that we are describing, the traffic commissioner would watch things clos...
David Clelland | 481 c583 (Link to this contribution)
I entirely understand where my hon. Friend is coming from, and new clause 9 is very welcome. He says...
Paul Clark | 481 c583 (Link to this contribution)
I thank my hon. Friend for that intervention. The power is time-limited; the proposal is that the ti...
Paul Clark | 481 c582-3 (Link to this contribution)
We are making that provision in the Bill, and as I said, we will be consulting on our guidance and s...
Stephen Hammond | 481 c586 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the hon. Lady for that intervention. She knows the answer, as I made my position clear throu...
John McDonnell | 481 c618 (Link to this contribution)
I welcome many of the statements that the Minister has made tonight with regard to TUPE. A joint mec...
Ian Stewart | 481 c618 (Link to this contribution)
Will my hon. Friend clarify, on that specific point, that that will also apply to employees of opera...
Paul Clark | 481 c618 (Link to this contribution)
This covers all employees who have been working under quality contract schemes.
Let me turn finally...
Rob Marris | 481 c615 (Link to this contribution)
It might be that I do not understand new clause 9. Will the Minister talk me through the scenario th...
Paul Clark | 481 c615-6 (Link to this contribution)
This provision is for a time-limited period of nine months, plus three months as a further option, t...
Ian Stewart | 481 c614 (Link to this contribution)
I think that my hon. Friend has got the drift of this. The rationale that he has put forward has bee...
Paul Clark | 481 c614-5 (Link to this contribution)
I understand what my hon. Friend is trying to achieve. However, if I am to revisit the matter before...
Rob Marris | 481 c617 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister give way again on that point?
Paul Clark | 481 c617 (Link to this contribution)
No; let me make some progress. In common, however, with my right hon. Friend the Member for Doncaste...
Rob Marris | 481 c616 (Link to this contribution)
Does the Minister view amendment No. 8 as almost a wrecking one, as under (c)(iii), all the consulte...
Paul Clark | 481 c616 (Link to this contribution)
I think that my hon. Friend may well have put his finger directly on the intention behind some of th...
Paul Clark | 481 c614 (Link to this contribution)
There would, of course, be an incentive for the local transport authority, as it would have been cha...
Norman Baker | 481 c614 (Link to this contribution)
May I suggest a way forward? We all understand that the Minister does not want to give local authori...
Norman Baker | 481 c611 (Link to this contribution)
I agree with the Minister's analysis, but does he think it would be helpful for local authorities to...
Paul Clark | 481 c612 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the hon. Gentleman for his intervention. I have said clearly that those who propose the sche...
Norman Baker | 481 c612 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister just used the phrase ““a full-case review””, but will he be absolutely clear about that...
Paul Clark | 481 c613 (Link to this contribution)
No, that would not be possible where the QCS agreed with the local authority. If the scheme had fail...
Norman Baker | 481 c613 (Link to this contribution)
If the point of disagreement between the QCS and the local authority concerned only one criterion, f...
Paul Clark | 481 c613-4 (Link to this contribution)
No. My thought was that a cutting across over a number of those criteria would be likely, but if the...
Graham Stringer | 481 c614 (Link to this contribution)
Obviously, any time limit will be arbitrary. A line has to be drawn somewhere when dealing with my h...
Rob Marris | 481 c627 (Link to this contribution)
May I draw my hon. Friend's attention to new clause 10(5)? I am clearly reading it differently from ...
Paul Clark | 481 c627-8 (Link to this contribution)
I thank my hon. Friend. It is certainly the case that if an ITA decides that it wishes to include ot...
Mark Hunter | 481 c627 (Link to this contribution)
Just a few moments ago, when we were discussing the previous group of amendments, the Minister agree...
Paul Clark | 481 c627 (Link to this contribution)
The ITAs will consider all the transport options that exist. We are still giving the final say to lo...
Andrew Turner | 481 c626 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman has just explained how responsibilities will be broadened under the ITAs. Will he...
Paul Clark | 481 c626-7 (Link to this contribution)
First, let me say that it is up to local authorities to make a decision to review their transport ar...
Louise Ellman | 481 c626 (Link to this contribution)
Will my hon. Friend explain how the changed membership of the ITAs could, together with their new fu...
Paul Clark | 481 c626 (Link to this contribution)
I shall come on to those points shortly, but let me say that the ITAs will be able to draw together ...
Paul Clark | 481 c625-6 (Link to this contribution)
I shall also discuss new clause 11 and amendments Nos. 151, 152, 153, 156 and 157, in the name of th...
Speaker | 481 c623-5 (Link to this contribution)
With this it will be convenient to discuss the following: Amendments (a) and (b) to Government new c...
Paul Clark | 481 c623 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.
Paul Clark | 481 c618 (Link to this contribution)
I am sure that my hon. Friend will be one of those who scrutinises how well the legislation works. H...
Ian Stewart | 481 c618 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend has not been able to give complete reassurance to those of us who are concerned about...
Paul Clark | 481 c618-9 (Link to this contribution)
We have made it clear in the Bill that we have moved a long way on TUPE provisions and extended them...
Speaker | 481 c619 (Link to this contribution)
Order. I ask the Serjeant at Arms to investigate the delay in the No Lobby.
Norman Baker | 481 c597-600 (Link to this contribution)
I welcome the Minister to his new role. I am not sure whether he or his predecessor is responsible f...
Graham Stringer | 481 c595-7 (Link to this contribution)
Precisely. My hon. Friend has exposed the aim of the Conservative party, which is to defend the vest...
Paul Truswell | 481 c595 (Link to this contribution)
Is there not another fatal flaw in the argument of the hon. Member for Wimbledon (Stephen Hammond)? ...
Graham Stringer | 481 c595 (Link to this contribution)
We could look at the Official Report to find out, but my recollection is that my right hon. Friend, ...
Stephen Hammond | 481 c601 (Link to this contribution)
We do not need any lessons in dogma from the hon. Lady. After all, this is her dogma that she is put...
Angela C Smith | 481 c601 (Link to this contribution)
The matters before us today do not relate to Northern Ireland, but I turn the question back on the h...
Stephen Hammond | 481 c601 (Link to this contribution)
If that is true—if the hon. Lady believes that and thinks that she has the evidence for it—why is it...
Angela C Smith | 481 c600 (Link to this contribution)
I support the amendments on the approvals process for quality contracts, the operator of last resort...
Norman Baker | 481 c601 (Link to this contribution)
It is worth mentioning, to be fair to the hon. Member for Wimbledon (Stephen Hammond), that not ever...
Angela C Smith | 481 c601 (Link to this contribution)
I struggle to make any sense of that intervention, so I shall move on.
Paul Truswell | 481 c590 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Paul Truswell | 481 c590 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is very gracious, but I am not going to make quite the same point. Given his part...
Stephen Hammond | 481 c590 (Link to this contribution)
I am sure that the hon. Gentleman will make exactly the same point, but I am happy to give way.
David Howarth | 481 c591 (Link to this contribution)
What has happened in Cambridge is often cited as an example of the success of partnerships. Neverthe...
Stephen Hammond | 481 c590-1 (Link to this contribution)
My party is not opposed to all regulation. As the Minister does not know, but as his predecessor doe...
David Howarth | 481 c591 (Link to this contribution)
The point is that local authorities would benefit from having the option of moving to a quality cont...
Stephen Hammond | 481 c591 (Link to this contribution)
I am sure that the hon. Gentleman is looking forward to explaining to his constituents why a quality...
Graham Stringer | 481 c594-5 (Link to this contribution)
I shall speak to amendments Nos. 98 to 100, which stand in my name, Government new clause 9, new cla...
Stephen Hammond | 481 c591-4 (Link to this contribution)
But the hon. Gentleman has just given the lie to that argument. Everything that local authorities wi...
Stephen Hammond | 481 c595 (Link to this contribution)
As I said in my speech, the right hon. Lady listened in the Public Bill Committee, but gave no indic...
Paul Clark | 481 c610 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is absolutely right. Those who have worked and been elected locally are the best peop...
Ian Stewart | 481 c609 (Link to this contribution)
Earlier, the hon. Member for Wimbledon (Stephen Hammond) asked about effectiveness, efficiency and s...
Paul Clark | 481 c609 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the hon. Gentleman for his intervention, but let me quote my right hon. Friend:"““I have, of...
Stephen Hammond | 481 c609 (Link to this contribution)
I did not attack the right hon. Member for Doncaster, Central. I merely said that much of what the G...
Paul Clark | 481 c609 (Link to this contribution)
An interesting range of contributions has been made to our discussions about one of the major elemen...
Ian Stewart | 481 c608 (Link to this contribution)
The man is a mind reader. By the way, I do not care if anybody calls it dogma, but I think that the ...
Paul Clark | 481 c611 (Link to this contribution)
I thank my hon. Friend for her intervention. There is a clear duty to consult all interested parties...
Paul Clark | 481 c610-1 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is right that those provisions are some of the many good aspects of the Bill. He is a...
Ian Stewart | 481 c610 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to my hon. Friend for his patience. We are considering issues that are important to ou...
John McDonnell | 481 c604-5 (Link to this contribution)
Like other Labour Members, I commend the Government on amendments Nos. 124 to 128. I also join the c...
John Leech | 481 c603-4 (Link to this contribution)
As a member of the Public Bill Committee and of the Select Committee on Transport, I welcome the opp...
Ian Stewart | 481 c606-7 (Link to this contribution)
May I add my voice to those who have thanked and congratulated the Minister of State, Department for...
Mark Hunter | 481 c605-6 (Link to this contribution)
Let me start by suggesting to the Minister that the characteristically generous reference by my hon....
Angela C Smith | 481 c601-3 (Link to this contribution)
I would recommend that to a future Conservative Government. They might start with Birmingham, where ...
Stephen Hammond | 481 c608 (Link to this contribution)
Hansard will recall what I said previously, but on this point, can the hon. Gentleman tell us what t...
Ian Stewart | 481 c607 (Link to this contribution)
If the hon. Gentleman wishes to try to retrace his steps and his words, that is for him to do. It do...
Stephen Hammond | 481 c607 (Link to this contribution)
I am glad to have the chance to correct the hon. Gentleman. When I used those words, I was talking a...
Ian Stewart | 481 c608 (Link to this contribution)
No, I will not give way; I would like to make some progress.
We talked about the importance of loca...
Stephen Hammond | 481 c607 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Geoffrey Hoon | 481 c693 (Link to this contribution)
It is clear in the Bill what is meant by public interest. That will be a matter ultimately to be dec...
Ian Stewart | 481 c582 (Link to this contribution)
I am pleased to hear about the developments that the Government have placed in those amendments, but...
Paul Clark | 481 c576 (Link to this contribution)
I am delighted to be able to take the Bill through its Report stage and Third Reading. I genuinely b...
Paul Clark | 481 c631 (Link to this contribution)
I accept that there are concerns, but they may differ according to the area. There may be one set of...
Stephen Hammond | 481 c694 (Link to this contribution)
If the Secretary of State had read that speech more carefully, he would understand our position, whi...
Paul Clark | 481 c614 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman will be aware that we have already given the traffic commissioner the power relat...
Angela C Smith | 481 c611 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is very generous in giving way. Will he elaborate a little on exactly how widely inte...
Paul Clark | 481 c578 (Link to this contribution)
I thank my hon. Friend for that comment. He is absolutely right that under the 2007 Act, sectoral tr...
Paul Clark | 481 c632 (Link to this contribution)
As I said earlier, locally elected members will always be in the majority on the authority, and that...
Paul Clark | 481 c643-4 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend has mentioned other examples of where this happens—for example, police authorities. I...
David Clelland | 481 c590 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman seems to be lauding the success of deregulation and privatisation, but patronage ...
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2024-12-22 10:18:34 +0000
URI
http://data.parliament.uk/pimsdata/hansard/PROCEEDING_73231
In Indexing
http://indexing.parliament.uk/Content/Edit/1?uri=http://data.parliament.uk/pimsdata/hansard/PROCEEDING_73231
In Solr
https://search.parliament.uk/claw/solr/?id=http://data.parliament.uk/pimsdata/hansard/PROCEEDING_73231