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European Union (Amendment) Bill

Debate on bills on Monday, 9 June 2008, in the House of Lords.
European Union (Amendment) Bill. Lords Report stage debate second day. Part 1 of 2 records.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
702 c372-437 
Session
2007-08
Legislative stage
Report stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Proceeding contributions
Lord Stoddart of Swindon | 702 c409 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, on a point of clarification for the noble Lord, Lord Lester, since he sought to explain th...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 702 c409 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I can answer that question very briefly. The word ““federal”” is the most misunderstood te...

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Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 702 c409-10 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall be brief because we have had an interesting debate around issues that are quite br...
Lord Neill of Bladen | 702 c410-5 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 27: 27: After Clause 6, insert the following new Clause— ““Enforcement of rest...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 702 c410 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am most grateful to all noble Lords who have spoken, in particular those who see the nec...
Lord Neill of Bladen | 702 c415-6 (Link to this contribution) The noble and learned Lord, Lord Slynn, is here, my Lords, and he can respond. My experience would b...
Lord Lea of Crondall | 702 c415 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord refers to exorbitant interpretations by the European Court of Justice. Woul...
Lord Neill of Bladen | 702 c416 (Link to this contribution) They are coming to an end, my Lords. I thank the Minister for his prompt. Regarding the Rasmussen c...
Lord Bach | 702 c416 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am sorry to interrupt the noble Lord’s important speech, but I need to remind the House ...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 702 c416 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I just want to be clear that it is not within my gift to give permission or to withhold it...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 702 c432-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is a great privilege to follow the noble and learned Lord, Lord Slynn, who has demonstr...
Lord Slynn of Hadley | 702 c430-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I apologise that I may have rather less volume of voice than I have conviction. Despite th...
Lord Bach | 702 c437 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I beg to move that further consideration on Report be now adjourned. In moving this Motion...
Lord Neill of Bladen | 702 c434-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall be extremely brief. I was surprised to hear the noble Baroness say that full prote...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 702 c429-30 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, some noble Lords may find arguments by lawyers in this House less interesting than others....
Lord Goldsmith | 702 c429 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the point the noble Lord, Lord Tebbit, makes is in no way particular to this debate. It is...
Lord Goldsmith | 702 c427-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord is absolutely right that I was not here. I am much obliged, and I thank him...
Lord Lamont of Lerwick | 702 c428 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble and learned Lord said that no national court can overrule the European Court of ...
Lord Tebbit | 702 c429 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is clear to all of us that if the Judicial Committee of this House or, in future, the S...
Lord Neill of Bladen | 702 c427 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble and learned Lord was not here, but I expressly referred to the passage in his le...
Lord Goldsmith | 702 c427 (Link to this contribution) Yes, my Lords, it is. It is one of the horizontal articles. Noble Lords will forgive me that I do no...
Lord Campbell of Alloway | 702 c427 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, is what the noble and learned Lord has just said twice put in writing anywhere—that these ...
Lord Goldsmith | 702 c425-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I start with an apology to your Lordships that I was not present at the beginning of the d...
Lord Owen | 702 c419-20 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support both amendments but I hope that the Official Opposition will not push their Amen...
Lord Waddington | 702 c420-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Neill of Bladen, very helpfully went into a great deal of detail. In ...
Lord Goodhart | 702 c421-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak against Amendments Nos. 27 and 28. There are always questions of the interpr...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 702 c423 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before the noble Lord turns to Amendment No. 28, would he not admit that the British Gover...
Lord Goodhart | 702 c423-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am aware of the case in which the ECJ, somewhat to the surprise of the British Governmen...
Lord Blackwell | 702 c425 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I would like to speak briefly in favour of both these amendments which follow on from some...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 702 c416 (Link to this contribution) In that case, my Lords, I withdraw the remark. The noble Lord will have to make his own judgment, bu...
Lord Neill of Bladen | 702 c416-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall make my citation as quickly as possible. I was cut short last time at exactly the ...
Baroness O'Cathain | 702 c391 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I very much admire the noble Lord, as he well knows. We have these sorts of discussions. T...
Baroness O'Cathain | 702 c389-90 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, like the noble and learned Lord, Lord Woolf, I am a member of the Select Committee on the ...
Lord Roper | 702 c388-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as a member of the European Union Committee, I thank the Lord President for what she has d...
Lord Woolf | 702 c387-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am most grateful. Noble Lords have just heard from a parliamentarian with great experien...
Lord Lyell of Markyate | 702 c384-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, one is debating against the most charming opponent in the Lord President and one has to be...
Lord Rowlands | 702 c385-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as a member of the Constitution Committee, too, I will explain where I stand on the positi...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 702 c379-80 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we hope that all these documents are open to everyone in the House. The noble Baroness ac...
Viscount Bledisloe | 702 c380-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am a member of Constitution Committee, chaired by the noble Lord, Lord Goodlad, and I ha...
Lord McNally | 702 c381-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it may help to clarify the position from these Benches, as the three-year look at this was...
Lord Grenfell | 702 c382 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Baroness the Leader of the House for reading the statement. I s...
Lord Goodlad | 702 c373-4 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 25: 25: After Clause 6, insert the following new Clause— ““Parliamentary contr...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 702 c374-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Goodlad, suggested earlier that it might be helpful to the House if I...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 702 c377-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that is very helpful to the House. I thank the noble Baroness the Leader of the House for ...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 702 c379 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have not had the pleasure of seeing that transcript. I have no idea why the noble Lord h...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 702 c372 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I beg to move that the Bill be now further considered on Report. Moved accordingly, and, ...
Lord Howell of Guildford | 702 c397 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am extremely grateful to the noble Baroness, and I apologise for interrupting those very...
Lord Goodlad | 702 c398-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this has been an extremely valuable debate which has exposed a variety of deeply held view...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 702 c398 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I tried to address that in my opening remarks. I checked, and the Home Office has overridd...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 702 c402-3 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 26: 26: After Clause 6, insert the following new Clause— ““Position of the Mon...
Lord Dykes | 702 c404-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps the amendment is not really necessary after all and should not take too much of yo...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 702 c403-4 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry, my Lords, it was 1867. Bagehot held that the sovereign had three principal rights or pow...
Lord Jopling | 702 c392-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am goaded into contributing to this debate, having done so in Committee, not because I h...
Lord Campbell of Alloway | 702 c392 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have listened to this entire debate and the arguments. I have heard no wholly convincing...
Baroness Quin | 702 c391-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, like many other speakers, I am a member of your Lordships’ Constitution Committee. On this...
Lord Maclennan of Rogart | 702 c393 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am glad to have the opportunity to follow the noble Lord, Lord Jopling, who, like me, se...
Lord Jopling | 702 c393 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we should not give Governments the opportunity.
Lord Inglewood | 702 c395 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as I am neither a member of the Constitution Committee nor—for the time being, I hope temp...
Lord Marlesford | 702 c394 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we started this debate talking about the problems and pleasures of herding cats but I foun...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 702 c408 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, one noble Lord suggested that the Liberal Democrats are against the nation state. That is ...
Lord Stoddart of Swindon | 702 c406-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Dykes, chided the noble Lord, Lord Pearson, for wasting the House’s t...
Lord Monson | 702 c406 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, notwithstanding the reassuring words of the noble Lord, Lord Dykes, there is great merit i...
Lord Dykes | 702 c405-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I suggest that the noble Lord simply reads the treaty. It upholds the intrinsic sovereignt...
Lord Vinson | 702 c405 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is beyond most people because, as the noble Lord clearly and often makes the point, he ...
Lord Vinson | 702 c409 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, these are fundamental points that we have been promised before, but it simply has not happ...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 702 c408-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I fully understand that concern. However, it is catered for in the treaty of Lisbon. Unlik...
Lord Vinson | 702 c408 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord made an implied reference to my previous remark about sharing sovereignty, ...
Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 702 c390 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Baroness referred to the wisdom of the centuries on the British constitution, bu...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 702 c395-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am in your Lordships’ hands because I have already spoken, but I felt that the time may ...
Lord Lawson of Blaby | 702 c393-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord keeps saying that the proposal that the Government have put to us means tha...
Lord Maclennan of Rogart | 702 c394 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not read the statement made by the Leader of the House in that sense at all. It is cl...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 702 c409 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we are at the Report stage. I shall try to be indulgent, but the noble Lord must not keep ...
Lord Goldsmith | 702 c428-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I was not present when the noble Lord, Lord Owen, spoke but I am familiar with the jurispr...
Lord Kingsland | 702 c417-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I speak to Amendment No. 28, which is not germane to what the noble Lord, Lord Neill of Bl...
Lord Morris of Aberavon | 702 c382-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I welcome the statement made by my noble friend the Lord President and the care and consid...
Notes
Correction made in Lords Minute of 19 June 2008 - in division No 2, Lord De Mauley should have been recorded as voting Content.
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