European Union (Amendment) Bill. Lords Report stage first day. Part 1 of 2 records.
European Union (Amendment) Bill
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
702 c158-214
Session
2007-08
Legislative stage
Report stage
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
European Union (Amendment) Bill. Brought from the Commons. Explanatory Notes HL Bill 40-EN also published.
Wednesday, 12 March 2008
Bills
House of Lords
Wednesday, 12 March 2008
Bills
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Lord Howell of Guildford | 702 c169 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I was trying to give the Foreign Secretary the benefit of the doubt. He said in February t...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 702 c167-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it is a great delight to be at the beginning of Report stage. I shall follow fully the adv...
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Lord Waddington | 702 c167 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I have listened most carefully to the debate and I simply cannot understand the objections...
Lord Jay of Ewelme | 702 c166-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I will intervene briefly to comment on the point made by the noble Lord, Lord Blackwell, a...
Lord Stoddart of Swindon | 702 c166 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I will do nothing of the sort. For the first time, the European Parliament will have a rol...
Lord Hannay of Chiswick | 702 c166 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord for giving way. Will he tell the House which provisions in...
Lord Stoddart of Swindon | 702 c165-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I should like to support this amendment—I am just as entitled to make a contribution as an...
Lord Howell of Guildford | 702 c171 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister. I think that we have learnt one or two things from this sho...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 702 c169-71 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, if the noble Lord had not interrupted me, I would have done exactly that. I was coming on ...
Lord Howell of Guildford | 702 c158-61 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 1:
1: Clause 2, page 1, line 12, after ““excluding”” insert—
““(i) Article 1, ...
Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 702 c162-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I followed as far as I could the logic of the speech of the noble Lord in moving the amend...
Lord Anderson of Swansea | 702 c161-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the noble Lord has said that he is not convinced that the provisions of the treaty, in res...
Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 702 c164 (Link to this contribution)
It is their policy, too, my Lords. The Government are a little closer to what I regard as an effecti...
Baroness Wilcox | 702 c163 (Link to this contribution)
It is the Government’s policy.
Baroness Park of Monmouth | 702 c164-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I have a different concern. The existing EU delegations are already very generously staffe...
Lord Blackwell | 702 c164 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am continually struck that those who tell us how important this treaty is, hasten to say...
Lord Willoughby de Broke | 702 c186 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I apologise, because I really do not like intervening. The decoupling took place five year...
Lord Willoughby de Broke | 702 c184 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support the amendment. My noble friend Lady Carnegy is absolutely right to say that this...
Lord Harrison | 702 c184 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the point I go back to is that there are many other paths by which all of us collectively ...
Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 702 c183-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, if the noble Lord reflects for a moment, we are discussing this now because we are discuss...
Lord Willoughby de Broke | 702 c185-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I was not casting aspersions on the process. I am speaking to the amendment put down by th...
Lord Grenfell | 702 c185 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord. As chairman of the Select Committee that approved the rep...
Lord Tomlinson | 702 c182-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Taylor, is absolutely fair in the way that he presents it. In my crit...
Lord Harrison | 702 c183 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, when I have spoken in earlier debates on the Bill, I have asked your Lordships to consider...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 702 c177 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I shall give way once more, but I really do want to get on with my speech.
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 702 c177-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I hope that noble Lords will recognise that I am seeking a consensus on this issue. I do n...
Lord Dykes | 702 c177 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am very grateful to the noble Lord and I shall be brief. The noble Lord gave a generalis...
Duke of Montrose | 702 c178-80 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, in following my noble friend on this issue, I hope that he will forgive me if I look at th...
Earl Ferrers | 702 c180-1 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I would like to cast an observation, because we are talking about the common agricultural ...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 702 c196 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, until the last few phrases of the Minister’s summing up, I felt that I was going to be in ...
Lord Bach | 702 c196 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I do not want to be rude to the noble Lord, but it is an absurd question. It depends on wh...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 702 c195 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, at Report I believe that I am able to press the noble Lord on unanswered questions. I know...
Lord Bach | 702 c195 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I have already considered that. There have been various comments made by various people bo...
Lord Stoddart of Swindon | 702 c194-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am sorry to intervene and I am most obliged to the noble Lord for giving away. But I ask...
Lord Bach | 702 c194 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, let me be fair: McSharry was the high point of the Conservative Government’s reforms. But ...
Duke of Montrose | 702 c194 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am trying to recollect the timing on all these things. As far as I remember, there was a...
Lord Bach | 702 c194 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, we have heard one or two comments about that letter, but they will not stop the Government...
Lord Stoddart of Swindon | 702 c194 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the Minister mentioned the very good letter sent by the Chancellor of the Exchequer to the...
Lord Bach | 702 c191-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have taken part in this debate. I am certainly not going to ta...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 702 c190-1 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I have put my name to this amendment, and I shall speak to it briefly. In doing so, I shal...
Lord Bach | 702 c194 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I do not think that anything I have said can really be considered to be championing the co...
Earl Ferrers | 702 c194 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I do not quite understand how it is that the Government champion the common agricultural p...
Lord Selsdon | 702 c187 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I hope I will not bore you Lordships by approaching this from another point of view. I dec...
Lord Selsdon | 702 c187-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, that is wonderful. He wants to be able to make his own decisions. The noble Lord has not d...
Lord Sewel | 702 c186-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, my position is that there have been significant reforms in the common agricultural policy ...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 702 c177 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I have not reached that point in my argument. It will be possible to discuss the common ag...
Lord Anderson of Swansea | 702 c177 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the noble Lord properly mentioned tomorrow afternoon’s debate. Is there anything preventin...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 702 c177 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, none the less, there was a trade-off, which was, indeed, the incentive for the Government ...
Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 702 c177 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I apologise for interrupting my noble friend, but when he uses the term ““trade-off”” for ...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 702 c175-6 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 2:
2: Clause 2, page 1, line 12, after ““excluding”” insert—
““(i) Article 2, ...
Lord Tomlinson | 702 c177 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, will the noble Lord reflect on his comment that the Government were persuaded to give up t...
Lord Howell of Guildford | 702 c171-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I fear that there is a tendency to try to move away from the middle ground of sensible dis...
Baroness Hanham | 702 c207-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am not going to press this amendment to a Division, which is just as well. Listening to ...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 702 c208-10 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 12:
12: Clause 2, page 1, line 12, after ““excluding”” insert—
““(i) any provi...
Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 702 c210-1 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am beginning to think of the opt-in, opt-out area as rather like the Schleswig-Holstein ...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 702 c211-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am terribly sorry that I missed the birthday and wedding anniversary of the noble Lord, ...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 702 c212 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I put to the Minister an extension of her examples of an IT package or the costs of our st...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 702 c212 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, if I could think of a realistic example, I would be more inclined to consider it. However,...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 702 c212 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I respond first to the noble Lord, Lord Wallace of Saltaire, who used emotive language abo...
Lord Boston of Faversham | 702 c200 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I must point out that, if this amendment is agreed to, I cannot call Amendments Nos. 4 or ...
Baroness Ludford | 702 c200-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I oppose the amendments. Two of the main benefits and advantages of the Lisbon treaty are,...
Baroness Hanham | 702 c199-200 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 3:
3: Clause 2, page 1, line 12, after ““excluding”” insert—
““(i) Article 2, ...
Lord Lea of Crondall | 702 c204 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, in two or three sentences, I would just like to say that the exposition by the noble Baron...
Lord Monson | 702 c203 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, perhaps I may ask the noble Baroness a question before she sits down. She explained very w...
Baroness Ludford | 702 c203-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, Amendment No. 5, as I understand it—I may have misread it—is not about immigration but abo...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 702 c206-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, indeed they do. That is an important aspect of the way in which the UK Government make sur...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 702 c204-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, praise indeed for the noble Baroness, Lady Ludford and I welcome her cameo performance. Sh...
Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 702 c206 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I simply ask for information. I recall visiting NCIS some years ago and meeting a number o...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 702 c213-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, because I sat down too early and did not get to the nub o...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 702 c214 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, that has been a most valuable undertaking by the Minister. I am grateful to her for going ...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 702 c213 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, as Leader of the House, I am very clear that we should use Third Reading for the purposes ...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 702 c213 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, that was more said apropos the Companion than to take forward the discussion. I remind the...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 702 c212-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I have many friends in the European Union, but I would not expect them to draw back if I h...
Lord Bach | 702 c214 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I beg to move that consideration on Report be now adjourned. In moving the Motion, I sugge...
Lord Tomlinson | 702 c181-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I listened with great interest to the noble Lord, Lord Taylor, introducing his amendment. ...
Lord Willoughby de Broke | 702 c184-5 (Link to this contribution)
It is called a health check; it is not a reform. The aim of the health check was simply to see wheth...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 702 c182 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I do not wish to establish a dialogue on this issue but let me repeat the words I actually...
Lord Sewel | 702 c186 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am going to resist the temptation to give a preview of the debate that we are going to h...
Lord Teverson | 702 c189-90 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it is clear that all sides of the House do not think that the common agricultural policy i...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 702 c177 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, that is exactly my point. We have reason to demand that the Government obtain their part o...
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