Climate change. Tenth opposition day debate (part 1). Motion negatived on division (59 to 298). Amendment agreed to on question.
Climate Change
Opposition day on Tuesday, 8 May 2007,
in the House of Commons,
led by Chris Huhne.
The answering
member was Ian Pearson.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
460 c37-84 
Session
2006-07
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Proceeding contributions
Lord Barker of Battle | 460 c54 (Link to this contribution)
I am afraid that I do not recognise a word of what the hon. Gentleman says. He will know, if he was ...
Lord Barker of Battle | 460 c53-4 (Link to this contribution)
Any opportunity to debate action on climate change is welcome and there is a great deal in the motio...
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Clive Efford | 460 c54 (Link to this contribution)
If the Conservatives are facing up to the challenges of climate change, would the hon. Gentleman car...
Mark Lazarowicz | 460 c51 (Link to this contribution)
The Liberal Democrats appear to suggest that 70 per cent. is the right figure to go for, but does my...
Ian Pearson | 460 c52-3 (Link to this contribution)
I said at the start of my speech that a clause in the Bill allows us to change the targets, in the l...
Mark Lazarowicz | 460 c51 (Link to this contribution)
Will my hon. Friend give way?
Ian Pearson | 460 c51 (Link to this contribution)
For the last time, and then I must really make some progress—and a flight.
Martin Horwood | 460 c51 (Link to this contribution)
At the opening of his speech, the Minister said that the Government were ready to make a range of re...
Ian Pearson | 460 c51 (Link to this contribution)
I said that our target was a reduction of at least 60 per cent. in CO2 emissions by 2050 from 1990 l...
Peter Ainsworth | 460 c51 (Link to this contribution)
It is indeed welcome, but can the Minister explain why emissions from the Government estate have bee...
Ian Pearson | 460 c51 (Link to this contribution)
As I have explained to the hon. Gentleman before, the DEFRA office estate is going through a transit...
Ian Pearson | 460 c50 (Link to this contribution)
I agree entirely. As I mentioned, a sum of money has been allocated to help improve the greenness of...
Lynne Jones | 460 c50 (Link to this contribution)
A number of schools will be refurbished under the building schools for the future programme. Will th...
Peter Ainsworth | 460 c50 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister give way?
Roger Williams | 460 c49 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for giving way. If individual citizens of this country are to play their full p...
Ian Pearson | 460 c49 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman may not be aware that we announced a few weeks ago that we are to introduce free ...
Clive Efford | 460 c50 (Link to this contribution)
We are trying to educate the public about how they can play their part in tackling climate change, b...
Elliot Morley | 460 c57-8 (Link to this contribution)
I agree with the hon. Gentleman about urgency, but that is the weakness in his argument. While the p...
Lord Barker of Battle | 460 c58 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Gentleman is right to say that we need a range of tools, but we are not seeing ambiti...
Andrew Miller | 460 c57 (Link to this contribution)
The Terminator.
Lord Barker of Battle | 460 c57 (Link to this contribution)
Indeed, he is the Terminator, and he is coming after the hon. Gentleman’s seat. He continued:"““In s...
Elliot Morley | 460 c60-1 (Link to this contribution)
I welcome the opportunity to discuss what is clearly one of the most pressing environmental issues—i...
Peter Ainsworth | 460 c61 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Gentleman was waxing eloquent, and rightly so, about the benefits of carbon budgeting...
Barry Gardiner | 460 c58 (Link to this contribution)
Does the hon. Gentleman accept that when the Government introduced the climate change levy in 2001, ...
Lord Barker of Battle | 460 c58-60 (Link to this contribution)
I am afraid that I will not because, sadly, those are simply two remarkable exceptions. What about a...
Lord Barker of Battle | 460 c56-7 (Link to this contribution)
Our position on congestion charging is very clear—it is up to local people to decide what is in the ...
Mark Lazarowicz | 460 c56 (Link to this contribution)
I have to report to the House that when I recently left the Commons one evening on my bicycle, the h...
Lord Barker of Battle | 460 c56 (Link to this contribution)
That is a very good point, but the key point about hybrids is that they are part of an emerging tech...
Speaker | 460 c55 (Link to this contribution)
Order. Perhaps we could debate the motion, and the amendments before the House.
Lord Barker of Battle | 460 c55 (Link to this contribution)
As I was saying, thanks to the leadership of my right hon. Friend the Member for Witney, the modern ...
Chris Huhne | 460 c55 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Lord Barker of Battle | 460 c55 (Link to this contribution)
It was a great shame that the hon. Gentleman tore up the cross-party agreement that was so meticulou...
Chris Huhne | 460 c55 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for finally giving way. He will know very well that when we susp...
Speaker | 460 c55 (Link to this contribution)
Order. The hon. Gentleman knows that interventions must be brief.
Lord Barker of Battle | 460 c55-6 (Link to this contribution)
We have had 25 minutes of listening to the dirge of the hon. Member for Eastleigh (Chris Huhne); tha...
Andrew Miller | 460 c56 (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps the hon. Gentleman would point out to the right hon. Member for Witney (Mr. Cameron) that a ...
Lord Barker of Battle | 460 c55 (Link to this contribution)
We have had plenty of opportunity to debate the merits of recycling; we came before the country with...
Speaker | 460 c37 (Link to this contribution)
We now come to the main business. I inform the House that I have selected the amendment in the name ...
Andrew Miller | 460 c39 (Link to this contribution)
Does the hon. Gentleman agree that the UN figures are predicated not on unilateral action by this co...
Chris Huhne | 460 c38-9 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman raises a matter with which I shall deal later. No doubt he knows that the Sustain...
John Bercow | 460 c38 (Link to this contribution)
In the light of entirely justified exhortations to improve the environmental performance of the priv...
Chris Huhne | 460 c37-8 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move,"That this House calls on the Government to set targets for carbon emissions informed ...
Chris Huhne | 460 c39-40 (Link to this contribution)
I am pleased to make it clear that we are calling for the Government to set a more ambitious target....
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 460 c40 (Link to this contribution)
With a steeply graduated vehicle excise duty, what allowances would the hon. Gentleman make for peop...
Chris Huhne | 460 c39 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is right that we need a global agreement. It is useful that the Chancellor of Ger...
Nick Hurd | 460 c39 (Link to this contribution)
Is the hon. Gentleman calling for Britain to act more ambitiously on long-term targets unilaterally?...
Chris Huhne | 460 c40-1 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman knows very well, because we have dealt with this matter in previous debates, that...
Chris Huhne | 460 c41 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman knows that it would be unusual for the people whom he is describing to buy new hi...
Angus Brendan MacNeil | 460 c41 (Link to this contribution)
I am still unclear as to whether, under the hon. Gentleman’s proposals for the vehicle excise duty, ...
Chris Huhne | 460 c41 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman knows that if we always find difficulties—if the glass is always half empty—we wi...
Mark Lazarowicz | 460 c41 (Link to this contribution)
As we are discussing the effects of vehicle excise duty on people in rural areas, may I take the hon...
Chris Huhne | 460 c42 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman raises an interesting topographical point about the mountains in his constituency...
Daniel Kawczynski | 460 c41-2 (Link to this contribution)
On the hon. Gentleman’s previous point about exemptions for certain people in rural areas, there are...
Lynne Jones | 460 c42 (Link to this contribution)
Germany operates the same high standards for refurbishments as for new build. Would the hon. Gentlem...
Chris Huhne | 460 c42-3 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Lady anticipates the next section of my speech. Adding microgeneration means that energy sa...
Nick Hurd | 460 c43 (Link to this contribution)
I fully share the emphasis that the hon. Gentleman places on energy efficiency, but I want to be cle...
Ian Pearson | 460 c46 (Link to this contribution)
When we were discussing our targets, we thought it right to focus on the main greenhouse gas emitted...
Chris Huhne | 460 c45 (Link to this contribution)
Why have the Government framed their targets in terms of CO2 alone when, as we all know, the basket ...
Ian Pearson | 460 c44-5 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move, To leave out from ““House”” to the end of the Question, and to add instead thereof:"“...
Chris Huhne | 460 c44 (Link to this contribution)
It is not part of our party’s policy. At some point in the future additional incentives might be req...
Michael Gove | 460 c44 (Link to this contribution)
The definition of compulsion is, of course, an elastic one. One of the proposals that was floated at...
Chris Huhne | 460 c44 (Link to this contribution)
As the hon. Gentleman can see by looking at the pamphlet, there is no proposal for the scheme to be ...
Nick Hurd | 460 c44 (Link to this contribution)
Can the hon. Gentleman confirm that his proposed measure will be entirely voluntary, because his pam...
Chris Huhne | 460 c44 (Link to this contribution)
As we make clear in our proposals, for any period of time that we might envisage it would be extreme...
Robert Goodwill | 460 c46 (Link to this contribution)
Is it not true that the Government signed up to the regulation on fluorinated gases, which will make...
Ian Pearson | 460 c46 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right that the UK has made significant reductions in methane and ot...
Jo Swinson | 460 c48 (Link to this contribution)
We support many of the schemes that the Minister outlines in the fight against climate change, but d...
Ian Pearson | 460 c48 (Link to this contribution)
I agree. We should first try to avoid CO2 emissions, then reduce them and then consider recycling. O...
Chris Huhne | 460 c48 (Link to this contribution)
It is difficult to understand the Minister’s point about annual targets. The assessment will be made...
Ian Pearson | 460 c48 (Link to this contribution)
I do not agree with the hon. Lady. Annual targets do not work for one simple reason. We do have cold...
David Howarth | 460 c47 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for giving way again. Would it not be better if the Government took a unilatera...
Ian Pearson | 460 c46 (Link to this contribution)
Currently, there is no internationally accepted definition for aviation and shipping emissions, whic...
Andrew Miller | 460 c48 (Link to this contribution)
It is a good idea to try to educate the public about the energy usage of household equipment. The id...
Ian Pearson | 460 c47-8 (Link to this contribution)
We are showing leadership on this issue. For example, the UK will be the first country in the world ...
David Howarth | 460 c46 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister mentioned international leadership. Will he undertake that the Government will show mor...
Ian Pearson | 460 c48-9 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is an economist, so he is used to dealing with many variables. The practice of ha...
Lord Barker of Battle | 460 c74 (Link to this contribution)
For the record, can the hon. Gentleman tell us what happened to carbon emissions under the last Cons...
Martin Horwood | 460 c75 (Link to this contribution)
The problem is the same as the Government have had with the Kyoto targets, because other factors are...
Speaker | 460 c73 (Link to this contribution)
Order. The Minister must not anticipate his own winding-up speech.
Martin Horwood | 460 c73-4 (Link to this contribution)
I am very grateful for the Minister’s lengthy intervention. When I was in business, a target was a h...
Martin Horwood | 460 c73 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister shakes his head. I will happily give way if he wants to explain why the target in the B...
Barry Gardiner | 460 c73 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for giving way. It is unfortunate and puerile to keep on making ...
Barry Gardiner | 460 c73 (Link to this contribution)
indicated dissent.
Martin Horwood | 460 c72-3 (Link to this contribution)
Members will be pleased with the overall tone of this debate, which has demonstrated a great deal of...
Andrew Miller | 460 c71 (Link to this contribution)
No. The hon. Gentleman wants 15 minutes to wind up, so he can use some of that time.
Our energy pol...
Martin Horwood | 460 c71 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Andrew Miller | 460 c70-1 (Link to this contribution)
I disagree on a couple of points with Opposition Members who have spoken, although there is a huge a...
David Howarth | 460 c71 (Link to this contribution)
I agree with the hon. Gentleman’s comments on that subject. Does he therefore agree with the Bill br...
Andrew Miller | 460 c71 (Link to this contribution)
The principle of devolving the responsibility has some merit, but leadership from the top is also ne...
Speaker | 460 c64 (Link to this contribution)
May I make a plea for brief contributions? There is a limited amount of time available for the rest ...
Mark Hunter | 460 c64-5 (Link to this contribution)
The original title of this debate was ““Action on climate change begins at home””. The latter part o...
Robert Goodwill | 460 c67-70 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the hon. Member for Eastleigh (Chris Huhne) for picking this subject for debate on behalf of...
Elliot Morley | 460 c61 (Link to this contribution)
The argument for five years—although it is not for me to make it—is that it aligns itself with the p...
Elliot Morley | 460 c61-4 (Link to this contribution)
The problem is that there is some confusion among those who advocate annual targets. Even they recog...
Chris Huhne | 460 c61 (Link to this contribution)
Does the right hon. Gentleman not recognise that if there is an annual report, there must be a bench...
Speaker | 460 c81 (Link to this contribution)
I ask the Serjeant at Arms to investigate the delay in the No Lobby.
The House having divided: Ayes...
Lord Barker of Battle | 460 c75 (Link to this contribution)
That could possibly be because we do not report until the summer.
Barry Gardiner | 460 c76-7 (Link to this contribution)
In the global battle to combat climate change, no Government have done more than this Labour Governm...
Barry Gardiner | 460 c77-81 (Link to this contribution)
I would like to do so, but I cannot, given the plethora of responses that I need to make to points r...
Graham Stuart | 460 c77 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister give way?
Ian Pearson | 460 c50 (Link to this contribution)
Yes. The Government want the refurbishment of existing schools to receive as much attention as effor...
Ian Pearson | 460 c50 (Link to this contribution)
Let me give the hon. Gentleman the figures first.
Preliminary data suggest that household emissions...
Sharon Hodgson | 460 c65-7 (Link to this contribution)
I think Labour Members can all agree that we are grateful to the Liberal Democrats for choosing to h...
Martin Horwood | 460 c75-6 (Link to this contribution)
So there are no actual policies. It is difficult to maintain a cross-party consensus on policy becau...
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