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Finance Bill

Debate on bills and Committee of the Whole House (HC) on Tuesday, 1 May 2007, in the House of Commons.
Finance Bill. (Clauses Nos. 1, 3, 7, 8, 12, 20, 21, 25, 67 and 81 to 84, Schedules Nos. 1, 18, 22 and 23, and new Clauses relating to microgeneration). Committee stage second day. Clause 67, discussed with schedule 18, debated and agreed to on division (262 votes to 145). Schedule 18 agreed to as amended. Clause 12 agreed to, with amendment debated and negatived on division (29 votes to 260) and amendment debated and withdrawn. Clause 81 agreed to, with amendment debated and negatived on division (118 votes to 279). Clauses 82 to 84 agreed to. Schedules 22 and 23 agreed to. Clause 20, discussed with clause 21 and new clause 1, debated and agreed to. Clause 21 agreed to. Bill (Clauses 1,3, 7, 8, 12, 20, 21, 25, 67, 81 to 84, Schedules 1, 18, 22, 23) reported as amended.
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Parliamentary proceeding
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459 c1384-481 
Session
2006-07
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Treasury
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Committee stage
Procedure
New clauses
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House of Commons chamber
Related items
Finance Bill. Explanatory Notes on Clauses 1 to 47 (volume 1) and Clauses 48 to 113 (volume 2) also published.
Tuesday, 27 March 2007
Bills
House of Commons
Finance Bill
Monday, 30 April 2007
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House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
Mark Hoban | 459 c1392-4 (Link to this contribution) The Economic Secretary has nodded, and I am delighted that we will be furnished with that informatio...
Mark Hoban | 459 c1391 (Link to this contribution) I am only up to page 6, so there is plenty of time before we discuss that. I hope I did not inadver...

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Ed Balls | 459 c1391 (Link to this contribution) The estimate would have been that it was a negligible cost, because it was not the Government’s inte...
Mark Hoban | 459 c1388-91 (Link to this contribution) That is slightly curious. If it was not the Government’s intention to introduce tax relief for pensi...
Ed Balls | 459 c1391 (Link to this contribution) I fear that the hon. Gentleman is in danger of misleading the Committee. The regulatory impact asses...
Chair of Committees of the Whole House | 459 c1392 (Link to this contribution) Order. The hon. Gentleman is making a very long intervention.
Mark Hoban | 459 c1392 (Link to this contribution) It is remarkable that the Government introduced a change that happened to slip unintentionally throu...
Mark Hoban | 459 c1391 (Link to this contribution) In my political career, I have never been accused of drifting in the middle on anything.
Mark Hoban | 459 c1385-6 (Link to this contribution) As the Economic Secretary indicated, clause 67 abolishes pension term assurance, which was introduce...
Mark Hoban | 459 c1386-7 (Link to this contribution) It is not something I am anticipating but if, unfortunately, I died while I was a Member my wife wou...
Ed Balls | 459 c1387 (Link to this contribution) I want to understand the principles guiding the hon. Gentleman’s approach. In 1984, tax relief on li...
Mark Hoban | 459 c1387 (Link to this contribution) It is interesting that the Minister raises that point, because the Government effectively reintroduc...
Mark Hoban | 459 c1387 (Link to this contribution) I will happily give way to the hon. Member for Wirral, West (Stephen Hesford) who pre-empted the Eco...
Stephen Hesford | 459 c1387 (Link to this contribution) I am obliged to the hon. Gentleman for giving way—I think. Does he not accept that, by and large, as...
Mark Hoban | 459 c1388 (Link to this contribution) I will not discuss the amendments at this point. I think that you indicated in your opening remarks,...
Ed Balls | 459 c1384-5 (Link to this contribution) Thank you for your guidance, Sir Alan. It is a great pleasure and honour for me to serve for the fir...
Chair of Committees of the Whole House | 459 c1384 (Link to this contribution) It may be for the convenience of the Committee if I say that it will be in order to refer to schedul...
Ed Balls | 459 c1384 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the clause stand part of the Bill.
John Healey | 459 c1430 (Link to this contribution) The Treasury has at no stage said that the APD change will lead to a saving of 1.1 million tonnes of...
Brooks Newmark | 459 c1430 (Link to this contribution) No, it does not damage the case. I appreciate the clarification, but it does not detract from my poi...
Christopher Chope | 459 c1429;459 c1429-30 (Link to this contribution) Has my hon. Friend seen that a consultation paper has been published today in relation to reviewing ...
Brooks Newmark | 459 c1430 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend beats me to my peroration, which, sadly, I will now have to leave aside. I want to ...
Brooks Newmark | 459 c1430 (Link to this contribution) I appreciate that guidance, Mrs. Heal, but I do concur with my right hon. Friend. There is a legal ...
Chair of Committees of the Whole House | 459 c1430 (Link to this contribution) Order. May I remind the hon. Gentleman of the amendment under discussion, which is not about environ...
Lord Deben | 459 c1430 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that were the proposal a green tax, no more would be paid for a full aerop...
Chair of Committees of the Whole House | 459 c1430 (Link to this contribution) Order. I am afraid that that intervention is not relevant to the debate.
Brooks Newmark | 459 c1430 (Link to this contribution) Again, I appreciate your guidance, Mrs. Heal, but my remarks were a precursor to my final point. La...
Brooks Newmark | 459 c1428-9 (Link to this contribution) Thank you for calling me to speak, Mrs. Heal, and I appreciate the ongoing guidance that I have rece...
David Gauke | 459 c1435-6 (Link to this contribution) I am a member of the Treasury Committee. We hold a number of hearings after a pre-Budget report. The...
Lord Goodman of Wycombe | 459 c1435 (Link to this contribution) Why did not the Treasury Committee have access to the precedents?
John Healey | 459 c1435 (Link to this contribution) The information before the Treasury Committee did not include the information that I was able to set...
John Healey | 459 c1435 (Link to this contribution) I will, although I want to deal with some of the points that those who have contributed have made to...
Lord Goodman of Wycombe | 459 c1435 (Link to this contribution) The Minister finds me convoluted. May I simply ask him a straightforward question? Does he agree wit...
John Healey | 459 c1435 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman said himself that he wants to study the letter that I have sent to the hon. Membe...
John Healey | 459 c1435 (Link to this contribution) I think that this has been quite a good debate. All the contributions, with the exception of that by...
Lord Goodman of Wycombe | 459 c1434-5 (Link to this contribution) The key point, though, is that it would give relief to the airlines, because the airlines, not the p...
Edward Leigh | 459 c1433 (Link to this contribution) May I say at this point that my hon. Friend is making such an elegant case against the Government th...
Lord Goodman of Wycombe | 459 c1433-4 (Link to this contribution) I was waiting for someone to make that point. I am only surprised that my hon. Friend needed persuad...
John Redwood | 459 c1434 (Link to this contribution) Given the serious legal proceedings that the Government have had to accept, were they to lose the ca...
Brooks Newmark | 459 c1431 (Link to this contribution) Thank you, Mrs. Heal. As I was saying, the £100 million retrospective tax would be most beneficial ...
Lord Goodman of Wycombe | 459 c1431-3 (Link to this contribution) You are policing the conduct of the debate as vigorously as ever, Mrs. Heal, which is entirely appro...
Lord Goodman of Wycombe | 459 c1433 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a fair point. My hon. Friend the Member for Chipping Barnet (Mrs. Villiers), t...
Chair of Committees of the Whole House | 459 c1431 (Link to this contribution) Order. May I point out to the hon. Gentleman that the decision as to what is in order is entirely a ...
Edward Leigh | 459 c1430-1 (Link to this contribution) To be entirely in order, the debate should be about the implementation date. The Minister has made a...
Christopher Chope | 459 c1442 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is absolutely right. The sad thing is that the argument that the airlines might not ...
Vincent Cable | 459 c1445 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment No. 13, page 8, line 29, at end add—
Christopher Chope | 459 c1442 (Link to this contribution) I know that Labour Members do not like Ryanair, which I think has been voted by its passengers the a...
Lord Davies of Stamford | 459 c1442 (Link to this contribution) In the event that my hon. Friend’s amendment is passed and an airline subsequently refused to reimbu...
Lord Goodman of Wycombe | 459 c1445 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for giving way. That word did not pass the Chancellor’s lips.
John Healey | 459 c1439 (Link to this contribution) It is not a theological argument. It is a principled argument that is based on legislative and parli...
Rob Marris | 459 c1442 (Link to this contribution) I can give the hon. Gentleman some evidence, although it is an assumption so far as Ryanair is conce...
Christopher Chope | 459 c1440-2 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Financial Secretary for his response and for his comments about the package tou...
John Healey | 459 c1439-40 (Link to this contribution) It is also frequently the case that people or organisations make decisions on investments, purchases...
Rob Marris | 459 c1439 (Link to this contribution) Many airline passengers are aware that the actual price of the service that they are buying is more ...
John Redwood | 459 c1436 (Link to this contribution) Can the Minister tell us how much of the extra duty has been charged directly to the customers who h...
John Healey | 459 c1437 (Link to this contribution) I cannot precisely, because clearly that is a commercial arrangement between the airlines and their ...
Brooks Newmark | 459 c1437 (Link to this contribution) Further to what my right hon. Friend the Member for Wokingham (Mr. Redwood) has said, the Minister h...
John Healey | 459 c1437-9 (Link to this contribution) The Chancellor was clear in his pre-Budget statement and I have made the position clear since then i...
Edward Leigh | 459 c1439 (Link to this contribution) This is a theological argument about dancing on the head of a pin. What about the public? They have ...
Christopher Chope | 459 c1436 (Link to this contribution) If that is so, can the Minister confirm today that, when the European emissions trading scheme comes...
John Healey | 459 c1436 (Link to this contribution) For the purposes of this debate, there are a number of precedents that I wish to cite. I set them ou...
Chair of Committees of the Whole House | 459 c1436 (Link to this contribution) Order. I wonder whether I could ask the Minister to move on quickly to the amendments currently unde...
David Heath | 459 c1452 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman mentioned the growth in the low cost airlines. Is not one of the paradoxes ...
Lord Deben | 459 c1451-2 (Link to this contribution) I would like to be able to support the content of the Liberal amendment, because the Financial Secre...
Lord Goodman of Wycombe | 459 c1450-1 (Link to this contribution) I certainly agree that the proposals are pretty chaotic. Again, I note that there is no substantial ...
Lord Goodman of Wycombe | 459 c1450 (Link to this contribution) They were both tax rises. The amendment that the hon. Lady tabled last year on VED was outside the s...
Rob Marris | 459 c1450 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman agree that amendment No. 13 shows the chaos of Liberal Democrat green tax po...
Lord Goodman of Wycombe | 459 c1450 (Link to this contribution) But the hon. Lady did do that last year in relation to vehicle excise duty.
Julia Goldsworthy | 459 c1450 (Link to this contribution) No. We proposed changes to vehicle excise duty; we did not propose an alternative to vehicle excise ...
Lord Goodman of Wycombe | 459 c1449 (Link to this contribution) I would be grateful to the hon. Lady if she would confirm that that is exactly what happened.
Julia Goldsworthy | 459 c1449 (Link to this contribution) There is an issue about revenue-raising measures and whether they can be debated on the Floor of the...
Lord Goodman of Wycombe | 459 c1449 (Link to this contribution) I am worried about proposing a delay without proposing a firm alternative. I want to come to that po...
Julia Goldsworthy | 459 c1449 (Link to this contribution) When it comes to not setting a timetable, does the hon. Gentleman agree that, if the Treasury is des...
Lord Goodman of Wycombe | 459 c1449 (Link to this contribution) That is why I would be extremely pleased—as, doubtless, would the Liberals—if the Financial Secretar...
Lord Deben | 459 c1449 (Link to this contribution) I wonder whether I can help my hon. Friend. It is certainly my view that any assessment that was goi...
Vincent Cable | 459 c1446-7 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman has the advantage over me, because he has had the chance to read the consul...
Lord Goodman of Wycombe | 459 c1447-8 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to see you in the Chair, Mr. Illsley. May I encapsulate what I want to say on behal...
Julia Goldsworthy | 459 c1448 (Link to this contribution) Is it not also true that the inequality that the consultation document is attempting to resolve take...
Lord Goodman of Wycombe | 459 c1428 (Link to this contribution) I must confess that I have not yet got to the bottom of the consultation document, but if the hon. L...
Vincent Cable | 459 c1445-6 (Link to this contribution) Indeed, and the tax being proposed at that time was not an environmental tax at all, but a revenue m...
Lord Deben | 459 c1446 (Link to this contribution) Has the hon. Gentleman noticed that almost all the proposals will in fact increase the Treasury take...
David Heath | 459 c1462-3 (Link to this contribution) I have a great deal of sympathy with what the hon. Gentleman is saying: there is a need to identify ...
David Heath | 459 c1460 (Link to this contribution) As a veteran of countless criminal justice Bills, I would say that it is normal for the concept of r...
John Healey | 459 c1460 (Link to this contribution) As I have just explained, an officer has a duty to think reasonably, because otherwise his decision ...
Rob Marris | 459 c1459 (Link to this contribution) The present wording represents a subjective test, whereas the wording proposed in the amendment repr...
John Healey | 459 c1459-60 (Link to this contribution) I acknowledge the broader comments made by the hon. Member for Falmouth and Camborne (Julia Goldswor...
Chair of Committees of the Whole House | 459 c1461 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss the following amendments: No. 18, in page 57, line 12, at...
Mark Francois | 459 c1461-2 (Link to this contribution) As the Minister mentioned it, may I say quickly that Conservative Members welcome his admission that...
Julia Goldsworthy | 459 c1460-1 (Link to this contribution) I am somewhat reassured by that. I was hoping to ensure that the Bill was consistent in terms of the...
Mark Francois | 459 c1461 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment No. 2, in page 56, line 47, at end insert—
Mark Francois | 459 c1459 (Link to this contribution) I, too, welcome you to the Chair, Mr. Illsley. Amendment No. 19 appears to relate specifically to t...
Julia Goldsworthy | 459 c1458-9 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment No. 19, in clause 81, page 56, line 7, leave out ‘thinks’ and insert ‘has re...
Vincent Cable | 459 c1457-8 (Link to this contribution) I should like briefly to respond to some of the points raised in the debate. The hon. Member for Wyc...
Lord Deben | 459 c1452-4 (Link to this contribution) I agree with the hon. Gentleman. I was not attacking low-cost airlines; I was merely saying that bec...
Rob Marris | 459 c1454-5 (Link to this contribution) I agree with quite a lot of what the hon. Member for Wycombe (Mr. Goodman) said in response to amend...
Julia Goldsworthy | 459 c1455 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman not agree that broadening the scope of the consultation would prove useful b...
Rob Marris | 459 c1455 (Link to this contribution) Yes, I believe that broadening the consultation is a good idea. I imagine that the amendment was tab...
Julia Goldsworthy | 459 c1455-6 (Link to this contribution) If the proposal has no bearing on the environment, why does today’s written ministerial statement re...
John Healey | 459 c1456-7 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady did not listen to me. I shall not give way again unless she listens. I clearly said th...
Chair of Committees of the Whole House | 459 c1457 (Link to this contribution) Order. Before I call the hon. Member for Twickenham (Dr. Cable) to respond, I inform the House that ...
Julia Goldsworthy | 459 c1466 (Link to this contribution) The full RIA outlines the necessary balance to be struck between meeting HMRC’s needs and making the...
Mark Francois | 459 c1463-6 (Link to this contribution) I take on board the hon. Gentleman’s point, but it would be up to HMRC to decide where to deploy its...
Stephen Timms | 459 c1478-81 (Link to this contribution) We have had some interesting comments on the clauses. Clause 20 builds on incentives already introd...
Lord Goodman of Wycombe | 459 c1477-8 (Link to this contribution) I am looking for a sentence that will sum up the what the official Opposition feel about clauses 20 ...
Alan Simpson | 459 c1476-7 (Link to this contribution) I wanted to speak briefly to support new clause 1, which addresses Treasury reporting on energy effi...
Julia Goldsworthy | 459 c1474-6 (Link to this contribution) Although we are covering quite a lot in this group of amendments, I shall try to be brief. I begin...
Chair of Committees of the Whole House | 459 c1473-4 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss the following: clause 20 stand part. Amendment No. 16, i...
Julia Goldsworthy | 459 c1473 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment No. 15, in page 15, line 10, leave out sub-paragraph (b).
Mark Francois | 459 c1469-70 (Link to this contribution) I have listened very carefully to the Minister’s case with regard to these important powers. He expl...
John Healey | 459 c1466-9 (Link to this contribution) I hope that my response will give the reassurances that the hon. Members for Falmouth and Camborne (...
Julia Goldsworthy | 459 c1481 (Link to this contribution) I think that it was the hon. Member for Wycombe (Mr. Goodman) who described the Chancellor as being ...
Julia Goldsworthy | 459 c1481 (Link to this contribution) I agree. I hope that we will be able to return to the issue. I hope that, despite the particular sub...
David Gauke | 459 c1401-2 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is a doughty defender of Parliament, for which we should be grateful, and he raises a...
Ed Balls | 459 c1405-6 (Link to this contribution) In my opening remarks, I set out the background to the Government’s decision taken at the time of th...
Philip Dunne | 459 c1403-4 (Link to this contribution) I have three brief points to make. My hon. Friend the Member for Fareham (Mr. Hoban) was right to ta...
Robert Goodwill | 459 c1404 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is making a valid point about whom the proposals will affect. However, does he agree ...
David Gauke | 459 c1402-3 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend again makes a very important point. As is generally the case with financial services—...
David Gauke | 459 c1402 (Link to this contribution) I am afraid so. I have a final question for the Economic Secretary, on stability in the pension syst...
David Gauke | 459 c1402 (Link to this contribution) From a sedentary position, the Economic Secretary gives a conclusive, authoritative nod. Term assura...
Rob Marris | 459 c1406 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend recall that the 1984 abolition had an unintended consequence? I want to be gener...
Ed Balls | 459 c1409-10 (Link to this contribution) No, I do not think so. Those who benefited were those who took out assurance policies such as life a...
Rob Marris | 459 c1410 (Link to this contribution) Will my hon. Friend tell the House how difficult he believes it would have been to sort out the loop...
Ed Balls | 459 c1410 (Link to this contribution) We would have had a considerably longer period between our decisive decision at the time of the pre-...
Chair of Committees of the Whole House | 459 c1413 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss Government amendments Nos. 7 to 9.
Ed Balls | 459 c1407-9 (Link to this contribution) We had an interesting debate on those matters earlier, when my hon. Friend the Member for Wolverhamp...
David Gauke | 459 c1409 (Link to this contribution) I note that point, but has the Treasury done any analysis of the type of people who were taking adva...
Ed Balls | 459 c1409 (Link to this contribution) As I said, all the people who were taking advantage will have their benefits protected. It is not tr...
David Gauke | 459 c1409 (Link to this contribution) I am seeking clarification about whether a particular type of person benefited from that regime whil...
Ed Balls | 459 c1406-7 (Link to this contribution) I hear what my hon. Friend is saying. He is almost certainly correct, albeit somewhat partisan. I sh...
Mark Hoban | 459 c1407 (Link to this contribution) Given the history of tax relief for life assurance, is the Economic Secretary surprised that his pre...
Rob Marris | 459 c1415-6 (Link to this contribution) I am bearing in mind the fact that we are in Committee, so I wish to make some more drafting suggest...
Ed Balls | 459 c1414-5 (Link to this contribution) I will reflect on all those points. Obviously, it is important to ensure that we get our As before o...
Ed Balls | 459 c1415 (Link to this contribution) I want to pick up on a point made earlier about the use of the reserve powers to make regulations in...
Chair of Committees of the Whole House | 459 c1416 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss the following amendments: No. 4, in page 8, line 23, lea...
Ed Balls | 459 c1416 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman shouts that we should give my hon. Friend the Member for Wolverhampton, South-Wes...
Christopher Chope | 459 c1416 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment No. 3, in page 8, line 22, leave out ‘1st February’ and insert ‘21st March’....
Ed Balls | 459 c1414 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for my hon. Friend’s contribution, which was detailed, incisive and informed, as alway...
John Redwood | 459 c1414 (Link to this contribution) Just to add to the Minister’s confusion, I suggest that he look at the numbering, too, as the amendm...
Rob Marris | 459 c1414 (Link to this contribution) I welcome the transitional dates in the amendments in the name of the Chancellor of the Exchequer. T...
Christopher Chope | 459 c1418-9 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right. We are talking about a seven-week delay. Once the measure is introduced it ...
Julia Goldsworthy | 459 c1419 (Link to this contribution) On retrospection, is it not still the case that if somebody bought their ticket before 6 December, w...
Christopher Chope | 459 c1419 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady is right; the amendment is limited. I considered tabling another amendment stating tha...
Helen Goodman | 459 c1420 (Link to this contribution) I oppose the amendment—and will vote against it if the hon. Member for Christchurch (Mr. Chope) pres...
Lord Goodman of Wycombe | 459 c1420 (Link to this contribution) Why does the hon. Lady think that last time the Government substantially raised APD, they gave a yea...
Helen Goodman | 459 c1420 (Link to this contribution) I have no idea. I did not know that the Government gave a year’s notice last time. It was obviously ...
Christopher Chope | 459 c1416-8 (Link to this contribution) Amendments Nos. 4 and 5 are consequential on amendment No. 3, because if the retrospective element i...
David Wilshire | 459 c1418 (Link to this contribution) Can my hon. Friend confirm that the amendments before us leave behind the generality of the debate? ...
Christopher Chope | 459 c1418 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right. I know that he would have been in the Lobby with us on 27 March had he been...
David Wilshire | 459 c1418 (Link to this contribution) Can my hon. Friend confirm that my memory is correct—that when the extra tax was put on, we were tol...
Mark Hoban | 459 c1394 (Link to this contribution) I would like to make some more progress, but I am happy to give way.
Mark Hoban | 459 c1394-5 (Link to this contribution) I acknowledge the Economic Secretary’s persistence. He is trying hard and, at some point, I might sa...
Ed Balls | 459 c1394 (Link to this contribution) It is the last time that I shall try. The hon. Gentleman has clearly outlined the principles that gu...
Mark Hoban | 459 c1394 (Link to this contribution) If one is a member of an occupational scheme, the contributions are subject to tax relief, and many ...
Philip Dunne | 459 c1394 (Link to this contribution) Just for clarification, could my hon. Friend enlighten the House as to whether such payments into pe...
Stephen Hesford | 459 c1395 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman’s opposition amount to agreement with the Government?
Mark Hoban | 459 c1395-7 (Link to this contribution) That was a simplistic question. People oppose measures for many and varied reasons. If the hon. Gent...
Vincent Cable | 459 c1397-8 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Member for Fareham (Mr. Hoban) spent three quarters of an hour teasing out the issues, as h...
Ed Balls | 459 c1399;459 c1399-400 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that the hon. Gentleman will remember the debates in the House over the issue of self-inve...
David Gauke | 459 c1398-9 (Link to this contribution) I want to reiterate some of the points made by my hon. Friend the Member for Fareham (Mr. Hoban) in ...
Rob Marris | 459 c1400 (Link to this contribution) May I gently suggest to the hon. Gentleman that he is over-egging the pudding? Labour Members might ...
David Gauke | 459 c1400 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman may be right that those points were not made during the passage of the 2004 Finan...
Mark Hoban | 459 c1401 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes an important point about the extent to which people advise us that specific cha...
John Bercow | 459 c1401 (Link to this contribution) I entirely understand my hon. Friend’s lamentation that on the whole one certainly does not look for...
David Gauke | 459 c1401 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend for his comments, although I must say that, recalling the Finance Ac...
David Leslie Taylor | 459 c1423 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes my earlier point precisely. In his example, he takes possession of this hyp...
Lord Davies of Stamford | 459 c1422-3 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for Christchurch (Mr. Chope) on his principled approach to ...
Helen Goodman | 459 c1423 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Member for Christchurch placed emphasis on whether the Budget resolutions had been passed—I...
Lord Davies of Stamford | 459 c1423 (Link to this contribution) Of course I will give way to the hon. Lady in a moment if she will be kind enough to let me respond ...
Lord Davies of Stamford | 459 c1423 (Link to this contribution) It is indeed retrospectivity. The issue is whether the tax is known to apply by the parties involved...
Rob Marris | 459 c1424-5 (Link to this contribution) We are debating two principles this evening. First, the hon. Member for Christchurch (Mr. Chope) rai...
Lord Davies of Stamford | 459 c1424 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady is right and I thank her for that additional argument, which reinforces my case, as it...
Julia Goldsworthy | 459 c1423-4 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Member for North-West Leicestershire (David Taylor) said that the point of consumption was ...
Lord Davies of Stamford | 459 c1423 (Link to this contribution) It is a curious way to conduct a debate to try to refute an argument by saying that it is different ...
Helen Goodman | 459 c1420 (Link to this contribution) I will not give way, because some of the points being made by Opposition Members are wholly ridiculo...
Helen Goodman | 459 c1420 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman’s point is not significantly different from all sorts of taxes that we must...
Helen Goodman | 459 c1420 (Link to this contribution) No, the hon. Gentleman is wrong. Either the principle is important or it is not. Tory Members who su...
Stewart Hosie | 459 c1420 (Link to this contribution) Trading in gilts is market-sensitive, whereas the introduction of a retrospective tax is not. The ho...
Helen Goodman | 459 c1421 (Link to this contribution) Fifthly, another key point is the behaviour of the airlines. The airlines frequently add charges, su...
David Leslie Taylor | 459 c1421 (Link to this contribution) Is the hon. Gentleman suggesting that those who purchase, long in advance, services or goods that th...
Vincent Cable | 459 c1421 (Link to this contribution) I wish to support the amendment. The hon. Member for Christchurch (Mr. Chope) was surprised that peo...
Vincent Cable | 459 c1421-2 (Link to this contribution) Of course, these are tickets that have been paid for in good faith. As I understand it, the purpose ...
John Redwood | 459 c1427-8 (Link to this contribution) The Conservative party is holding a consultation on this sensitive issue. One of the questions in th...
Helen Goodman | 459 c1427 (Link to this contribution) Surely the right hon. Gentleman can understand that the people in the top 25 per cent. of the income...
John Redwood | 459 c1427 (Link to this contribution) I see the hon. Lady disagreeing with me, but she should recognise that her Government wish to reduce...
John Redwood | 459 c1427 (Link to this contribution) We are hearing the most extraordinarily convoluted legal arguments from the Government about why thi...
David Gauke | 459 c1426-7 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for your clarification, Mrs. Heal, as to exactly what I am doing—[Interruption.] And I...
Chair of Committees of the Whole House | 459 c1426 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Member for South-West Hertfordshire (Mr. Gauke) is therefore making a speech.
John Redwood | 459 c1428 (Link to this contribution) I accept your advice, Mrs. Heal. I was illustrating that there are other ways of finding £100 millio...
Chair of Committees of the Whole House | 459 c1428 (Link to this contribution) Order. We are not discussing the identity card scheme this evening.
Julia Goldsworthy | 459 c1425-6 (Link to this contribution) As my pocket money probably would not have stretched to procuring any services when the change in VA...
Rob Marris | 459 c1425 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman says that I cannot deny it but I do.
John Healey | 459 c1426 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is making a typically well argued case. Does he agree that the point at issue, which ...
Rob Marris | 459 c1426 (Link to this contribution) It happened when the service was performed. For example, if one engages a VAT-registered garden comp...
Lord Davies of Stamford | 459 c1425 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman used the word ““principle””. I hope that he agrees that a good principle remains ...
Lord Davies of Stamford | 459 c1425 (Link to this contribution) The important point about air passenger duty is that the economics of the transaction will be change...
Rob Marris | 459 c1425 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I am not making myself clear. I understand the principle that the hon. Gentleman outlines. I...
Rob Marris | 459 c1426 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is as perspicacious as ever. If a service has been bought in October 2006 but is perf...
Chair of Committees of the Whole House | 459 c1426 (Link to this contribution) Order. May I clarify whether the hon. Gentleman is making an intervention or a speech?
Adam Afriyie | 459 c1433 (Link to this contribution) The least well-off tend to book their flights much further in advance, because the earlier a booking...
John Healey | 459 c1455 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate the hon. Member for Twickenham (Dr. Cable) on prompting a wide-ranging debate on a na...
Philip Dunne | 459 c1404-5 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes an excellent point. Clearly, some sectors will be affected more than others, in...
Julia Goldsworthy | 459 c1421 (Link to this contribution) Returning to the hon. Lady’s third argument, she mentioned council tax. An analogous example would b...
Lord Goodman of Wycombe | 459 c1434 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend makes a fair point. A sword of Damocles is hanging over the Government. I do no...
Lord Goodman of Wycombe | 459 c1481 (Link to this contribution) I just wanted to say that we do not intend to press new clause 1 to a vote tonight. None the less, d...
John Bercow | 459 c1402 (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful to my hon. Friend for giving way. The immediate impact on consumers of change aft...
Philip Dunne | 459 c1391-2 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is ploughing a steadfast course through the middle of the Economic Secretary’s argume...
John Redwood | 459 c1420 (Link to this contribution) Would the hon. Lady think it fair if the Government suddenly said that all the things that she had p...
David Gauke | 459 c1426 (Link to this contribution) I was merely going to intervene on the hon. Member for Wolverhampton, South-West (Rob Marris). I tho...
Christopher Chope | 459 c1434 (Link to this contribution) I think my hon. Friend has misunderstood my amendment. It would not give relief only to passengers w...
John Healey | 459 c1436 (Link to this contribution) Of course I will, Mrs. Heal. It has been a wide-ranging debate to date. Let me return to the questio...
David Gauke | 459 c1400-1 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for that intervention. The hon. Gentleman and I have served on Finance Bill Committees...
Ed Balls | 459 c1388 (Link to this contribution) To go back to the question of principle—it is important that we establish the principles that are gu...
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