Draft SI on Prevention of Terrorism Act 2005 (Continuance in force of sections 1 to 9). Motion to approve. Agreed to division (322 votes to 61).
Prevention and Suppression of Terrorism
Legislative debate on Thursday, 22 February 2007,
in the House of Commons,
led by Tony McNulty.
The answering
member was Patrick Mercer.
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
457 c434-60 
Session
2006-07
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Prevention of Terrorism Act 2005 (Continuance in force of sections 1 to 9) Order 2007
Thursday, 1 February 2007
Statutory instruments
House of Lords
House of Commons
Thursday, 1 February 2007
Statutory instruments
House of Lords
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
Tony McNulty | 457 c436-7 (Link to this contribution)
The short answer is that I do not know specifically. If, during the course of our debate, I receive ...
William Cash | 457 c436 (Link to this contribution)
Oh, yes, it does.
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Tony McNulty | 457 c435 (Link to this contribution)
I am not sure that the hon. Gentleman’s last point concurs entirely with what the Lord Chancellor sa...
Fiona Mactaggart | 457 c436 (Link to this contribution)
Do any of those charges relate to the three people whose control orders have been in place since Mar...
Tony McNulty | 457 c436 (Link to this contribution)
Not the hon. Gentleman’s last point. I had the good fortune of making a subsequent speech at RUSI du...
John Denham | 457 c434 (Link to this contribution)
The noble Lord Carlile recently suggested, or appeared to suggest, that some cases that are subject ...
Tony McNulty | 457 c435 (Link to this contribution)
I thank my right hon. Friend for that intervention. I will be coming on to precisely that point, dea...
Tony McNulty | 457 c441 (Link to this contribution)
The question of anonymity remains the preserve of the police. If the police say clearly that, for op...
Patrick Mercer | 457 c441 (Link to this contribution)
I accept the Minister’s intervention, but comments from the Home Office such as the one that I have ...
Tony McNulty | 457 c441-2 (Link to this contribution)
The matter was brought to my attention and I went on ““Newsnight”” that night and explained that ver...
Jim Cousins | 457 c437 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend has just used the term ““reasonably suspected””. He will be aware that the test of re...
William Cash | 457 c438 (Link to this contribution)
In view of there being very few Members here, I hope that the Minister will not mind if I refer to c...
Tony McNulty | 457 c437-8 (Link to this contribution)
I think that the safeguards are clear. The threshold test involved in establishing reasonable suspic...
Tony McNulty | 457 c438-9 (Link to this contribution)
With the greatest respect to the hon. Gentleman, that is not the case. It would not be right to sugg...
Patrick Mercer | 457 c440-1 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Minister for reintroducing this piece of legislation. The most focusing thing t...
Tony McNulty | 457 c439-40 (Link to this contribution)
I think that that is broadly right, in the sense that much of what my right hon. Friend describes do...
Nick Clegg | 457 c445-7 (Link to this contribution)
On the day that the Prevention of Terrorism Act 2005 came into force, 11 March 2005, the Prime Minis...
Mark Oaten | 457 c447 (Link to this contribution)
Does my hon. Friend share my concern that the reason for the delay in dealing with the question of i...
Jeremy Browne | 457 c442 (Link to this contribution)
Based on the comments that the hon. Gentleman just made, will he indicate which way his party intend...
Patrick Mercer | 457 c442 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to my hon. Friend for his intervention. I have no doubt that the Minister will pick up...
William Cash | 457 c442 (Link to this contribution)
There was a full-ranging debate on Monday on the Human Rights Act. The question of the publication o...
Patrick Mercer | 457 c442 (Link to this contribution)
I fear that the Minister does not really believe what he is saying. With the greatest respect, he di...
Fiona Mactaggart | 457 c443-5 (Link to this contribution)
I was grateful to the Minister for his response to my right hon. Friend the Member for Southampton, ...
Patrick Mercer | 457 c442-3 (Link to this contribution)
Well, that is fine.
The comments that Lord Carlile makes in his annual report are quite clear. Ther...
William Cash | 457 c442 (Link to this contribution)
I am certainly not.
Patrick Mercer | 457 c442 (Link to this contribution)
Yes, I will: we are going to support the motion, with great reluctance, and, if the hon. Gentleman w...
Nick Clegg | 457 c447 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend makes an interesting and intriguing observation. I was not aware that that might be t...
Nick Clegg | 457 c448 (Link to this contribution)
If control orders were no longer a tool that could be used on the 18 individuals in question, I hope...
William Cash | 457 c449-51 (Link to this contribution)
My first point is that I am extremely glad that Lord Carlile has produced yet another report. We are...
Mark Oaten | 457 c448 (Link to this contribution)
indicated dissent.
William Cash | 457 c447-8 (Link to this contribution)
On the question of human rights, as the hon. Gentleman will remember, there was an understanding bet...
Lord Watson of Wyre Forest | 457 c448 (Link to this contribution)
I listened to the hon. Gentleman’s concerns, many of which are valid, and to the concerns of the res...
Nick Clegg | 457 c448 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is clarifying his position, and obviously he is free to do so, but I do not agree...
Tony McNulty | 457 c451 (Link to this contribution)
indicated dissent.
William Cash | 457 c451 (Link to this contribution)
As ever, I listen carefully to the hon. Gentleman, who is a distinguished lawyer. Often, we nearly a...
Tony McNulty | 457 c454 (Link to this contribution)
I value the work of the Joint Committee, as I have said before. Its reports are extremely useful.
L...
Evan Harris | 457 c453-4 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman’s intervention gave him a good opportunity to set out his very clear view.
The c...
William Cash | 457 c453 (Link to this contribution)
I would be the first to defend the right of judges to make their decisions according to the rule of ...
Evan Harris | 457 c452-3 (Link to this contribution)
Yes. There are a number of wrong ways of going about this, and we have heard several of them. I beli...
David Winnick | 457 c452 (Link to this contribution)
However unsatisfactory the control orders might be—obviously, there will be a Division—does the hon....
Evan Harris | 457 c452 (Link to this contribution)
I wish to make a couple of points about the report by the Joint Committee on Human Rights on the ren...
William Cash | 457 c451 (Link to this contribution)
I am glad that the Minister is shaking is head, because I am not trying to make a cheap point, and w...
Patrick Mercer | 457 c455 (Link to this contribution)
Anybody who has dealt with intercept evidence in practice, as I have, knows that it is no magic wand...
Tony McNulty | 457 c455 (Link to this contribution)
Simply put—the matter is incredibly complex, as I know the hon. Gentleman will understand—the reason...
William Cash | 457 c455 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister give way?
Tony McNulty | 457 c455 (Link to this contribution)
Not at the moment.
The issue of control orders will not go away. Lord Carlile has expressed the hop...
Lord Watson of Wyre Forest | 457 c455 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend has said that aspects of the Prevention of Terrorism Act worry him, and that he has h...
Tony McNulty | 457 c455-6 (Link to this contribution)
On my hon. Friend’s initial point, which was also raised by the hon. Member for Oxford, West and Abi...
Nick Clegg | 457 c454 (Link to this contribution)
I clearly stipulated the four areas in which we wanted revisions to the control order regime, a proc...
Tony McNulty | 457 c454-5 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend asked a clear question: what would happen if the control orders governing those 18 we...
Tony McNulty | 457 c454 (Link to this contribution)
I want to make some progress before I give way. As the hon. Member for Sheffield, Hallam (Mr. Clegg)...
Tony McNulty | 457 c456 (Link to this contribution)
Now that we have covered all those points, I shall make a few more comments; I promise to give way t...
Tony McNulty | 457 c457 (Link to this contribution)
I give way to the hon. Gentleman because I have to cough.
William Cash | 457 c457 (Link to this contribution)
I hope my comments will not make the Minister’s cough worse. I hope he will accept that I am not aga...
Tony McNulty | 457 c457 (Link to this contribution)
That is absolutely the first duty. I will not go over the arguments with which we began the debate.
...
Tony McNulty | 457 c456 (Link to this contribution)
I shall come back to Newark first. If I have time, I will indulge the hon. Member for Stone.
Patrick Mercer | 457 c456 (Link to this contribution)
The point about intercept is similar to the excellent point from the hon. Member for West Bromwich, ...
Tony McNulty | 457 c456 (Link to this contribution)
I fervently hope so. I want to move to a stage where we can determine, one way or the other, whether...
Nick Clegg | 457 c448-9 (Link to this contribution)
If I may, I shall conclude, because there is not much time in this short debate. We have reservation...
William Cash | 457 c435 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister may know that I sympathise with the Government’s dilemma to a very considerable extent,...
Tony McNulty | 457 c434 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move,"That the draft Prevention of Terrorism Act 2005 (Continuance in force of sections 1 t...
John Denham | 457 c439 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend may or may not share my enthusiasm for some elements of the French system in this con...
David Howarth | 457 c451 (Link to this contribution)
Is not the alternative approach to the matters in the order to allow questioning post-charge and wir...
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