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Passenger Railway Services (Public Ownership) Bill

Debate on bills on Wednesday, 6 November 2024, in the House of Lords, led by Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill. The answering member was Lord Moylan.
Lords report stage. Amendment 1 agreed to on division (187 to 132). Amendment 2 agreed to on division (142 to 128). Amendment 5 disagreed to on division (95 to 138). Amendment 13 disagreed to on division (69 to 124). Amendment 15 agreed to. Bill, as amended, ordered to be printed (HL Bill 48).
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Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
840 cc1504-1562 
Session
2024-25
Legislative stage
Report stage
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Passenger Railway Services (Public Ownership) Bill 2024-25. Brought from the Commons
Wednesday, 4 September 2024
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House of Lords
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Wednesday, 9 October 2024
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
Passenger Railway Services (Public Ownership) Bill: Government Response. Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee fifth report
Tuesday, 22 October 2024
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
Passenger Railway Services (Public Ownership) Bill 2024-25. As amended on Report
Wednesday, 6 November 2024
Bills
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Lord Gascoigne | 840 c1505 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Gascoigne

1: Before Clause 1, insert the following new Clause—

“P...

Lord Gascoigne | 840 cc1505-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise briefly to fire the starting gun on Report with my Amendment 1. In doing so, I e...


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Lord Lansley | 840 cc1506-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support my noble friend on his Amendment 1 and will speak to Amendment 14 in my name....

Lord Berkeley | 840 c1508 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak briefly to my Amendment 16, which is in this group. I am, as ever, gratefu...

Lord Grayling | 840 cc1508-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak briefly on some of the themes that my noble friend Lord Gascoigne has been...

Baroness Randerson | 840 c1509 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 1 is impossible to disagree with. It is fundamental to the survival of our ra...

Lord Moylan | 840 cc1509-1511 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we have had lengthy discussion on this Bill in Committee, and it is not my intention to...

Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill | 840 cc1511-2 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lords, Lord Gascoigne and Lord Moylan, for Amendment 1. I absolutely support th...

Lord Moylan | 840 c1512 (Link to this contribution)

Are not the staff of Waterloo station already employed by Network Rail?

12.45 pm

Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill | 840 cc1512-3 (Link to this contribution)

I was referring to the people who drive and operate the trains. There are more of them on Waterlo...

Lord Gascoigne | 840 c1513 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for his response, to all those who spoke in this relative...

Lord Moylan | 840 c1514 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Moylan

2: Clause 1, page 1, line 12, at end insert—

“25B Terminat...

Lord Moylan | 840 cc1514-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in the course of debate at Second Reading and in Committee, numerous noble Lords drew a...

Baroness Randerson | 840 cc1517-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to Amendment 2, and to Amendment 10 in my name and that of my noble friend...

Lord Liddle | 840 c1518 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, from listening to the noble Baroness, Lady Randerson, I think there is a misunderstandi...

Lord Young of Cookham | 840 c1518 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am glad I let the noble Lord, Lord Liddle, speak before me, because I listened very c...

Lord Snape | 840 cc1518-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I expressed some sympathy with this amendment, or an amendment similar to it, in Commit...

Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill | 840 cc1519-1520 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord, Lord Moylan, and the noble Baronesses, Lady Randerson and Lady Scott of N...

Lord Young of Cookham | 840 c1520 (Link to this contribution)

Before the Minister sits down, can he just clarify something that he said? Is it the case that un...

Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill | 840 c1520 (Link to this contribution)

Is that the two worst-performing franchises or two others?

Lord Young of Cookham | 840 c1521 (Link to this contribution)

Any franchises. Can he use that section to renew the satisfactory franchises, because it would “n...

Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill | 840 c1521 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord, Lord Young, for his intervention. I think he is right, but he will forgiv...

Lord Moylan | 840 c1521 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, with the leave of your Lordships’ House, I may speak for slightly longer than would be ...

Lord Lansley | 840 c1521 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Lansley

3: Clause 2, page 2, line 6, at end insert—

“(1A) In sect...

Lord Lansley | 840 cc1521-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the purpose of Amendment 3 in my name is to explore the question of when and under what...

Lord Moylan | 840 cc1524-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to speak to Amendments 13 and 17 in my name, but also to respond to my noble fri...

Lord Snape | 840 cc1526-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to say a few words on Amendment 13 and the future of rail freight once this legi...

Baroness Randerson | 840 c1527 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, these three amendments deal with crucial aspects of the running of the railways and the...

Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill | 840 cc1527-9 (Link to this contribution)

I thank noble Lords for their amendments in this group. In response to Amendment 3, from the nobl...

Lord Lansley | 840 cc1529-1530 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very grateful to all noble Lords who have taken part in this short debate. It has ...

Lord Lansley | 840 c1530 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Lansley

4: Clause 2, page 2, line 12, leave out “only”

Member's e...

Lord Lansley | 840 cc1530-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is the last group on which I plan to speak. My amendment was prompted by a debate ...

Lord Moylan | 840 cc1531-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very grateful to my noble friend Lord Lansley for posing those very interesting qu...

Baroness Randerson | 840 cc1533-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this group raises some interesting questions about the various shapes that the ownershi...

Lord Liddle | 840 c1534 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak briefly, as the noble Baroness, Lady Randerson, mentioned what I said in C...

Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill | 840 cc1534-6 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lords, Lord Lansley and Lord Moylan, for their amendments in this group. I will...

Lord Lansley | 840 cc1535-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very grateful to all noble Lords who participated in this shortish debate, particu...

Lord Moylan | 840 c1537 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Moylan

5: Clause 2, page 2, line 15, after “Regulations” insert “or by ...

Lord Moylan | 840 c1537 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, if I may respond to what the Minister said, he is asking us to make a huge bet on what ...

Lord Bradshaw | 840 c1537 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord has spoken as if public ownership is something evil. I remember, when I worked on ...

Lord Moylan | 840 cc1537-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I made no reference to good or evil. I am talking about operational efficiency. I am su...

Lord Moylan | 840 c1538 (Link to this contribution)

I am only trying to move an amendment.

Lord Watts | 840 c1538 (Link to this contribution)

It is the introduction to it that is the problem. Is it not the case that the public support publ...

Lord Moylan | 840 c1538 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord brings me to exactly my point. The benefits of public ownership that the...

Baroness Pidgeon | 840 cc1538-1541 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Pidgeon

7: Clause 2, page 2, line 23, at end insert—

“30ZA Ex...

Baroness Pidgeon | 840 c1541 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, our Amendment 7 is about rail devolution, discussed extensively in Committee from all s...

Lord Moylan | 840 cc1541-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to the amendments in this group, particularly Amendment 12 standing in my ...

Baroness Randerson | 840 cc1542-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in response to the previous group, the Minister emphasised— I think it was in reply to ...

Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill | 840 cc1543-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I would like to clarify a point for the noble Lord, Lord Moylan, on Amendment 13. If I ...

Baroness Pidgeon | 840 c1546 (Link to this contribution)

One thing that has united this House in our discussions is support for further devolution and ack...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 840 c1546 (Link to this contribution)

Before we move on to the next group, I have to inform the House about the voting in the third Div...

Baroness Brinton | 840 cc1546-7 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Brinton

8: Clause 2, page 2, line 23, at end insert—

“30ZA St...

Baroness Brinton | 840 cc1547-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I declare my interest as vice-chair of the Accessible Transport Policy Commission. I st...

Baroness Grey-Thompson | 840 c1548 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to Amendment 8 in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton, to which I...

Baroness Randerson | 840 c1549 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very pleased to speak in support of my noble friend Lady Brinton and the significa...

Lord Moylan | 840 cc1549-1550 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise with some humility to make a few comments on Amendment 8, which, of course, is o...

Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill | 840 cc1550-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak first to Amendment 8, which was tabled by the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton...

Baroness Brinton | 840 c1552 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in tabling Amendment 8, I was very aware of standing on the shoulders of giants, includ...

Lord Young of Cookham | 840 c1552 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Young of Cookham

9: Clause 2, page 2, line 23, at end insert—

“30...

Lord Young of Cookham | 840 cc1553-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 9 in my name would require an annual report on public operator liabilities. T...

Baroness Randerson | 840 c1554 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have one very brief question for the Minister, following the warnings by the noble Lo...

Lord Moylan | 840 cc1554-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my noble friend Lord Young sought throughout Committee, with great forensic precision a...

Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill | 840 cc1555-8 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord, Lord Young, for tabling Amendment 9 and for our productive meeting the ot...

Lord Young of Cookham | 840 c1558 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as this is the last debate and possibly the last speech on Report, I commend the Minist...

Lord Moylan | 840 cc1558-9 (Link to this contribution)

Tabled by

Lord Moylan

12: Clause 2, page 3, line 32, at end insert—

“30D Prelim...

Lord Moylan | 840 c1559 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment deals with devolution and requires the Government to start work on that ...

Lord Moylan | 840 c1559 (Link to this contribution)

On the basis of that “hope”, which I imagine the Minister will expect to be held to—and which I w...

Lord Moylan | 840 c1559 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Moylan

13: Clause 2, page 3, line 32, at end insert—

“30D Stateme...

Lord Moylan | 840 c1559 (Link to this contribution)

I am afraid the case is rather different in relation to Amendment 13, which relates to freight an...

Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill | 840 c1562 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill

15: After Clause 2, insert the following new Cla...

Notes
Scottish legislative consent granted and Welsh legislative consent sought.
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