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Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Thursday, 23 February 2023, in the House of Lords, led by Lord Callanan. The answering member was Lord Collins of Highbury.
Lords committee stage first day. Clause 1 under consideration. (Part 1 of 2).
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
827 cc1760-1795 
Session
2022-23
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Proceeding contributions
Baroness Burt of Solihull | 827 c1760 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Burt of Solihull

1: Clause 1, page 1, line 4, at beginning insert “...

Baroness Burt of Solihull | 827 cc1760-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am disappointed that noble Lords are not staying to hear my words of wisdom. I rise t...


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Baroness Crawley | 827 cc1762-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have added my name to the amendment in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Fox, and the ...

Baroness O'Grady of Upper Holloway | 827 cc1763-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Minister is on record as saying:

“While some of these laws will be preserved,...

Baroness Thornton | 827 c1764 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I apologise for not having been involved in the Second Reading debate on this but I thi...

Lord Hamilton of Epsom | 827 cc1764-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, what we seem to be ignoring in all these amendments is that it is essential in this leg...

Lord Collins of Highbury | 827 c1765 (Link to this contribution)

Is the noble Lord suggesting that employment rights are irrelevant, not important and not a consi...

Lord Hamilton of Epsom | 827 c1765 (Link to this contribution)

I am not arguing that at all. I am saying that much of this legislation is going to be retained a...

Baroness Thornton | 827 c1765 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord is being distinctly unsuccessful in convincing his own Government that that is ind...

Lord Hamilton of Epsom | 827 c1765 (Link to this contribution)

I am saying that we have to decide how we handle the whole bulk of EU retained law. If the noble ...

Baroness Andrews | 827 cc1765-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have some sympathy with the noble Lord’s position, because, as he made clear at Secon...

Lord Berkeley | 827 cc1766-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support my noble friend’s comments about the timetable. I have heard from people in t...

Lord Howard of Rising | 827 c1767 (Link to this contribution)

Would the Minister agree that, as the United Kingdom has one of the best employment records in th...

Lord Whitty | 827 c1767 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, further to that point, even this discussion on the first amendment that we are faced wi...

Lord Hacking | 827 c1767 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my noble friend has done that in his Amendment 40, which is the sensible way forward.

Baroness Meacher | 827 c1768 (Link to this contribution)

I make a very short but rather strong point. I speak as a former member of the Delegated Powers a...

Baroness Crawley | 827 c1768 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, on the issue of timing, bearing in mind what the noble Lord, Lord Hamilton of Epsom, an...

Lord Hacking | 827 c1768 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is to correct myself. I referred to my noble friend’s Amendment 40 in error; it is...

Lord Frost | 827 c1769 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I fear we are in for quite a repetitive afternoon as we work through proposals to exclu...

Lord Frost | 827 c1769 (Link to this contribution)

It is not in any way the Government’s intention to—

Lord Frost | 827 c1769 (Link to this contribution)

We know because the way that companies and employment rights are regulated cannot be changed over...

Lord Carlile of Berriew | 827 c1769 (Link to this contribution)

When the noble Lord made his transfer from diplomacy to contentious politics, did he expect that ...

Lord Frost | 827 c1770 (Link to this contribution)

Well, I had sat down. Nevertheless, of course, most of the time that I was a diplomat and civil s...

Baroness Andrews | 827 c1770 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is quite extraordinary that the noble Lord says that Parliament has been given power...

Lord Davies of Brixton | 827 c1770 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was unable to be present at the Second Reading of this Bill because I was at the four...

Lord Hamilton of Epsom | 827 c1770 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to the noble Lord for letting me in. Does he not accept, though, that, when th...

Lord Fox | 827 cc1770-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it seems the debate has started quite strongly already, as I think we expected. I am in...

Baroness O'Grady of Upper Holloway | 827 c1774 (Link to this contribution)

Does the noble Lord agree that it took trade unions years, representing cases, to win a definitio...

Lord Fox | 827 c1774 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Baroness for her intervention. To be brutally honest, it was her I was thinking...

Lord Wilson of Dinton | 827 cc1774-5 (Link to this contribution)

I support the wise and well-expressed advice and views of my noble friend Lady Meacher. I was not...

Lord Lisvane | 827 c1775 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support every word just spoken by the noble Lord, Lord Wilson of Dinton, and earlier ...

Lord Hendy | 827 cc1775-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this Bill is objectionable both in form and in content. As to form, I cannot possibly i...

Bishop of Leeds | 827 c1777 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the reason these amendments and this debate are important is that one always explores t...

Lord Collins of Highbury | 827 cc1777-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been a very important and fascinating debate. I open by echoing the remarks of...

Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 827 c1779 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Lord for giving way. Does he agree that all EU law was put into law wi...

Lord Collins of Highbury | 827 c1779 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord may want to re-open the debate on the referendum and EU membership, but I do not. ...

Lord Callanan | 827 cc1779-1780 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank everybody who has contributed. I suppose we had to have the debate in principle...

Lord Callanan | 827 c1780 (Link to this contribution)

I will let the noble Lord come back in a moment, but let me make a little progress—I might answer...

Lord Callanan | 827 cc1780-1 (Link to this contribution)

I am going to make this point and then I will allow the noble Lord to intervene.

Our high s...

Lord Fox | 827 c1781 (Link to this contribution)

I am afraid I can wait no longer. I am somewhat surprised that I still do not really understand w...

Lord Callanan | 827 c1781 (Link to this contribution)

They are on the dashboard if they are retained EU law. I noticed that, in all the statements and ...

Lord Callanan | 827 c1781 (Link to this contribution)

If the noble Lord will sit down, I will come to him in a second. I will make this point and then ...

Lord Kerr of Kinlochard | 827 c1781 (Link to this contribution)

I think I understand the noble Lord’s argument, and that he is therefore going to end by saying t...

Lord Callanan | 827 c1781 (Link to this contribution)

As the noble Lord knows very well, that is not what I am saying. The reason that I am not saying ...

Lord Hope of Craighead | 827 c1782 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to the noble Lord for giving way. It is a question of the sunset and whether o...

Lord Callanan | 827 c1782 (Link to this contribution)

The noble and learned Lord knows I have tremendous respect for him and there is a great deal of s...

Lord Callanan | 827 c1782 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way in a second; let me answer the previous point before the noble Baroness makes ano...

Baroness Young of Old Scone | 827 c1782 (Link to this contribution)

Would the noble Lord perhaps admit that the only way in which the timetable can be met is by not ...

Lord Callanan | 827 c1783 (Link to this contribution)

“Yes” is the answer to the noble Baroness’s question. All new regulations will be subject to a pe...

Baroness O'Grady of Upper Holloway | 827 c1783 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, one reason we have such concerns about the timetable is that, as we have heard in excha...

Lord Callanan | 827 c1783 (Link to this contribution)

I totally understand the point the noble Baroness is making. I have looked at this—indeed, I was ...

Lord Davies of Brixton | 827 c1784 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, perhaps the Minister will take on board that, when he says there is no need for carve-o...

Lord Callanan | 827 c1784 (Link to this contribution)

We will get to that debate on those technical amendments later.

Lord Callanan | 827 c1784 (Link to this contribution)

I think it was the noble Lord, Lord Davies, who talked about the Financial Services and Markets B...

Lord Collins of Highbury | 827 c1784 (Link to this contribution)

Can I ask a simple question on TUPE? My fear is that we are not getting straight answers. Does th...

Lord Callanan | 827 cc1784-5 (Link to this contribution)

I have already given the noble Lord examples of where UK worker standards and employment regulati...

Lord Lucas | 827 c1785 (Link to this contribution)

In the context of some of the arguments advanced by my noble friend, has he considered extending ...

Lord Callanan | 827 c1785 (Link to this contribution)

I totally understand the point my noble friend makes; I am a passionate believer in the rights of...

Baroness Andrews | 827 c1785 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before the Minister sits down, I should like to ask him one question. He has addressed ...

Lord Callanan | 827 c1785 (Link to this contribution)

They certainly have the power to examine, repeal or change EU law within their specific areas of ...

Baroness Andrews | 827 c1786 (Link to this contribution)

The reason I raise this is because we are talking about the capacity of the Civil Service to do t...

Lord Callanan | 827 c1786 (Link to this contribution)

I thought I had given the noble Baroness a serious response. Within the area of devolved competen...

Lord Fox | 827 c1786 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am assuming the Minister has now sat down. He touched on the interpretive effects tha...

Lord Fox | 827 cc1786-7 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Fox

2: Clause 1, page 1, line 4, at beginning insert “Except for the Pa...

Lord Fox | 827 cc1787-9 (Link to this contribution)

I move Amendment 2 in my name and those of my noble friend Lord Clement-Jones, the noble Earl, Lo...

Earl of Clancarty | 827 cc1788-1790 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my name is on Amendment 2, and I support the noble Lord, Lord Fox.

The reaction i...

Baroness O'Grady of Upper Holloway | 827 cc1790-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, everybody in this House understands the real and clear evidence out there that women ar...

Baroness Altmann | 827 c1791 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, across my whole career, I have worked with other women and admired the work of trade un...

Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 827 c1791 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, does the noble Baroness agree that they are bad to the extent that they never went thro...

Baroness Altmann | 827 cc1791-2 (Link to this contribution)

I am afraid I absolutely do not agree with the noble Lord on that point. The fact that they came ...

Lord Collins of Highbury | 827 cc1792-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall be relatively brief. These two regulations were covered in my Amendment 40, so ...

Lord Callanan | 827 c1793 (Link to this contribution)

I thank all those who have contributed. I listened with interest to my noble friend Lady Altmann ...

Baroness Altmann | 827 c1794 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am struggling to understand my noble friend’s comments. If UK law is already stronger...

Lord Callanan | 827 c1794 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry that my noble friend does not seem able to understand this, but the Bill provides the ...

Lord Callanan | 827 c1794 (Link to this contribution)

Let me make the point to my noble friend before I give way to her again. Many of these regulation...

Baroness Altmann | 827 c1794 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my noble friend. I am still not quite sure what we can say to women, who currently have h...

Lord Callanan | 827 c1794 (Link to this contribution)

My noble friend asks what she can say to women. She can tell them that they have one of the highe...

Lord Fox | 827 cc1794-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I believe I owe the Committee an apology. In withdrawing my previous amendment I said t...

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Scottish, Welsh and Northern Ireland legislative consent sought.
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