Counter-Terrorism and Border Security Bill

I should notify the Committee that, if Amendment 31 is agreed to, I cannot call Amendment 32 by r...

My Lords, as the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, said, Amendment 33, to which both my noble friend L...

My Lords, I am somewhat shocked by the implication that there is anything illiberal about the pro...

My Lords, I support Amendments 31 and 33, which are in the name of my noble friend Lady Hamwee an...

Can the noble Lord identify any individual in Syria who is not aware that supporting ISIS is rega...

I do not think that I can answer that question, and I do not think that the noble Lord can answer...

Sitting here trying to cope with this extremely complex Bill and some very important issues, I fi...

My Lords, before I address Amendment 33 let me go back to the debate on Monday when we were discu...

My Lords, as we have heard Clause 6 adds a number of further offences to the existing list at Sec...

My Lords, first, I regret the personal attack on my noble friend.

The debate has assumed th...

Moved by

Earl Howe

32: Clause 6, page 5, line 16, at end insert—

“(cza) an offe...

My Lords, Clause 6 will add a number of further terrorism offences to the list at Section 17 of t...

My Lords, since the Joint Committee on Human Rights is meeting at this moment it has not been pos...

My Lords, I oppose this amendment and, in doing so, I will seek to explain why the issues are rat...

I shall be very brief. I await the Government’s response to the points made by the noble Lord, Lo...

My Lords, I am grateful to noble Lords who have responded to this proposed amendment. We are very...

Moved by

Lord Faulks

34: After Clause 6, insert the following new Clause—

“Trea...

My Lords, this amendment in my name and those of my noble friends Lord Hodgson and Lord Bethell i...

Could the noble Lord help me? Is he saying that his amendment covers an attack on British forces ...

It does not, which is why I was expressing regret at the final form of the amendment. If we are t...

My Lords, I have added my name to Amendment 34. I begin by apologising to the Committee for not h...

My Lords, I too thank my noble friend Lord Faulks for moving this amendment. I also thank my nobl...

My Lords, I too support the amendment. When I read it, I was surprised that it did not include th...

My Lords, Amendment 34, moved by the noble Lord, Lord Faulks, was the subject of some debate at S...

My Lords, on the prosecution of William Joyce, I do not believe that any reliance at all was plac...

I bow to the noble Lord’s greater knowledge on the matter and would not attempt to dispute his po...

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have spoken in the debate and my noble friend Lord Faulks f...

He was an American.

He was an American who took a German passport in 1940 but was nevertheless convicted when he was ...

That is a very interesting history. I know that many Americans claim to be Irish but it is not ev...

Perhaps I may ask a serious question. If we are debating an Act that was enacted in 1351, which h...

If the noble and learned Lord will indulge me, I will come on to the point about hostile state ac...

My Lords, I am sure that the Committee is grateful to my noble friend the Minister for her compre...

As I said, it most certainly can be viewed as an aggravating factor when sentencing is taking pla...

My Lords, I am grateful to all noble Lords who participated in the debate, including those who pu...

Moved by

Baroness Hamwee

35: Clause 7, page 5, line 31, leave out subsection (3)

My Lords, Amendment 35 takes us to the sentencing provisions in the Bill. My noble friends will r...

My Lords, this group also includes the question as to whether Clause 7 should stand part of the B...

My Lords, Ministers will know that the equivalent sentences in other European countries for the t...

This amendment, moved by the noble Lady Baroness, Lady Hamwee, and to which my name and that of m...

My Lords, Clause 7 increases the maximum sentences for a number of terrorism offences to ensure t...

I think that the noble Earl would carry the whole House in saying that terrorism has become a gre...

I am sorry that the noble Lord did not take one of the central points that I was trying to convey...

I did not ask the noble Earl to repeat what he has said to the House before. The question I asked...

There is always a judgment to be made. Once one has reached the conclusion that I have just artic...

The guidelines which came into effect on 27 April this year, a few months ago, were arrived at fo...

My Lords, it may be helpful to the noble Lord and the Committee if quote part of a press release ...

The March press statement was an explanation of the guidelines which were to come into effect on ...

My Lords, the Sentencing Council’s new guidelines for terrorism offences came into force, as the ...

Unless I am getting confused, which is quite possible, as I understand it the Security Minister, ...

That is exactly the position. I sense no resistance from the Sentencing Council to that approach ...

It follows from that that the review was prior to the Sentencing Council coming to its decision i...

My Lords, what I had better do is take advice on the timelines that were involved in all this and...

I am sorry to keep the Minister on his feet for longer than I am sure he wants. I ask that when t...

My understanding is that the consultation that took place was a wide one, but I can clarify that ...

The Minister has been very helpful to the Committee, but would it not solve an awful lot of probl...

I am happy to take that request away with me and investigate whether it is possible.

My Lords, I too had written down not just “timelines” but “evidence to the review”. I do not thin...

My Lords, I was not proposing to speak to Clause 8 but I do propose to speak to Clauses 9, 10 and...

My Lords, although I remain largely agnostic on the increase of maximum sentences which was discu...

I was not suggesting that we were looking for a public statement by judges that in particular cas...

In fact, the Government have a working relationship with the senior judiciary, which is often con...

My Lords, Clause 9 amends provisions in the Criminal Justice Act 2003, which, among other things,...

Moved by

Lord Paddick

36: Clause 12, page 13, line 27, at end insert—

“( ) For ...

My Lords, Amendment 36 is in my name and that of my noble friend Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames, ...

My Lords, Clause 12, as we have heard, is concerned with the notification requirements in the Cou...

I thank both noble Lords for their contributions to the debate, and thank the noble Lord, Lord Pa...

I am very grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Kennedy of Southwark, for his support, and for the com...

I suggest to the noble Lord that the provision in the Bill is concerned with “a right to use”, wh...

I am very grateful to the noble Lord. I am not sure whether the point I am about to make is contr...

Moved by

Baroness Hamwee

37: Clause 12, page 14, line 36, at end insert—

“( ) A...

My Lords, as we have heard, registered terrorist offenders, after release, have to notify the pol...

My Lords, as I have added my name to this amendment, I should like to say briefly that we support...

My Lords, I shall be very brief. My name and that of my noble friend Lord Kennedy are also attach...

My Lords, as noble Lords have said, Clause 12 strengthens the notification requirements under the...

My Lords, just before the noble Baroness responds, does my noble friend feel that perhaps both po...

I think that my noble friend in fact agrees with my point, if I am not mistaken.

Can the Minister just confirm that, even for those terrorism offences that might be considered mo...

I have to say that there is always a chance of rehabilitation, given the deradicalisation program...

My Lords, the element of risk to which I was in fact addressing my remarks was the risk to the Go...

Moved by

Baroness Hamwee

39: Clause 13, page 15, line 16, leave out from “assessing” ...

My Lords, I will speak also to Amendments 40 and 41. Clause 13 inserts a new power of entry and t...

My Lords, Clause 13 provides for a search power that Professor Clive Walker—who is, without much ...

My Lords, I will say just a few words on this. I agree with what my noble friend Lord Anderson sa...

My Lords, I too support the noble Lord, Lord Anderson, in what he said about the wide nature of w...

My Lords, like the previous amendment, Amendment 39 comes close to the overriding, overarching is...

My Lords, I support the amendments in this group. I have added my name to Amendments 39 and 41 bu...

My Lords, perhaps I may add my name to the long list of noble Lords concerned about the width of ...

My name and that of my noble friend Lord Kennedy of Southwark are attached to these three amendme...

I thank all noble Lords who have spoken. On the comments of the noble Lord, Lord Carlile, about r...

My Lords, the Government were asked to reflect. I will reflect but I suspect that when I read the...