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Technical and Further Education Bill

Debate on bills and Committee proceeding on Wednesday, 1 March 2017, in the House of Lords, led by Baroness Buscombe and Lord Nash.
Lords committee stage third day. Clauses 7 to 45 agreed to, with clauses 37 and 43 agreed to as amended. Schedules 3 and 4 agreed to as amended. Bill, as amended, ordered to be printed (HL Bill 107).
Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
779 cc209-256GC 
Session
2016-17
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords Grand Committee
Technical and Further Education Bill 2016-17. Brought from the Commons.
Tuesday, 10 January 2017
Bills
House of Lords
Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee sixteenth report.
Wednesday, 1 February 2017
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
Technical and Further Education Bill 2016-17. As amended in Committee.
Wednesday, 1 March 2017
Bills
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 779 c209GC (Link to this contribution)

Welcome, my Lords, to the third day of Grand Committee on the Technical and Further Education Bil...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 779 c209GC (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Stevenson of Balmacara

37: Clause 14, page 7, line 38, at end insert—


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Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 779 cc209-212GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a pleasure to appear in the Committee. I have been present on various occasions d...

Lord Storey | 779 c212GC (Link to this contribution)

Given that insolvency is a major part of the Bill, many of us were concerned that there might be ...

Lord Nash | 779 cc212-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lords, Lord Watson and Lord

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 779 cc215-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Storey, for his support for these amendments and his comme...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 779 c216GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara

40: Clause 15, page 8, line 11, at end insert “,...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 779 cc216-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the amendments in this group are rather unfortunately grouped together, as there are tw...

Baroness Garden of Frognal | 779 cc217-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support these amendments. It probably is important that any education administrator s...

Baroness Cohen of Pimlico | 779 c219GC (Link to this contribution)

I generally support the amendments. I started from a very particular consideration: I wondered wh...

Baroness Buscombe | 779 cc219-220GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lords who have put their names to this group of amendments. ...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 779 c220GC (Link to this contribution)

What has just been said is true and I understand exactly where the Minister is coming from but, i...

Baroness Buscombe | 779 cc220-2GC (Link to this contribution)

I accept the point, but I re-emphasise therefore the importance of that person bringing in outsid...

Baroness Garden of Frognal | 779 c221GC (Link to this contribution)

I am still slightly confused about how what the Minister says is squared with Clause 22(5) which ...

Baroness Buscombe | 779 c221GC (Link to this contribution)

I did actually reference this while the noble Baroness was talking to a colleague. There is no co...

Baroness Cohen of Pimlico | 779 c221GC (Link to this contribution)

May I have another go at this point? In the days when I was a civil servant, a bust company would...

Baroness Buscombe | 779 cc223-4GC (Link to this contribution)

I am clutching a response to the noble Baroness’s earlier question which is on point. Clauses 26 ...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 779 c224GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank those who have spoken in the debate for their questions, which are at the heart of the is...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 779 c225GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara

41: Clause 18, page 9, line 15, at end insert—

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 779 c225GC (Link to this contribution)

This should be relatively quick. Clause 18 contains a list of measures to be taken under the powe...

Lord Nash | 779 cc225-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we have seen from our recent scrutiny of the Higher Education and Research Bill that it...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 779 c226GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for his response. I am glad we agree on this. I thought for a moment he was ...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 779 c226GC (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Stevenson of Balmacara

47: Schedule 2, page 30, line 39, at end insert—...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 779 cc227-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was hoping to have a short breather while we discussed other important matters, but u...

Lord Storey | 779 c228GC (Link to this contribution)

I have always been concerned when public money has been used to purchase a facility—let us say th...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 779 c228GC (Link to this contribution)

No, it is not actually—although that is a scary prospect. In my scenario, we are in a liquidation...

Lord Storey | 779 c228GC (Link to this contribution)

In that case, there is merit in considering the amendment.

Baroness Cohen of Pimlico | 779 c228GC (Link to this contribution)

I support what I think the amendment is about. There is a worrying set of complications, in my mi...

Lord Nash | 779 cc229-230GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I start by saying that I recognise that the amendment is driven by noble Lords’ good in...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 779 c230GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for his helpful comments. I suspect that the most assured protecti...

Lord Nash | 779 c231GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Nash

48: Schedule 3, page 34, line 34, after “authority,” insert—

Lord Nash | 779 cc231-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I want to explain Amendments 48 to 55, which we have tabled to Schedules 3 and 4. These...

Baroness Garden of Frognal | 779 c232GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I warmly welcome these amendments. I am sure that if the noble Earl, Lord Listowel, wer...

Lord Nash | 779 c232GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Nash

49: Schedule 3, page 34, line 44, at end insert—

“( ) to any...

Baroness Buscombe | 779 cc232-3GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Buscombe

52: Schedule 4, page 42, line 28, after “authority,” inser...

Lord Watson of Invergowrie | 779 c233GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Watson of Invergowrie

56: Clause 28, page 13, line 2, at end insert—

Lord Watson of Invergowrie | 779 cc233-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 56 would ensure that staff employed by an FE college continued to accrue stat...

Lord Storey | 779 c234GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support this important amendment. As we said at the beginning and keep underlining, t...

Baroness Cohen of Pimlico | 779 c234GC (Link to this contribution)

I raise another worry that has come to me, which is the reverse. If a public or private company i...

Baroness Buscombe | 779 cc234-8GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank all noble Lords who have taken part in this important debate and will do my very best to ...

Lord Watson of Invergowrie | 779 c237GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Baroness for that comprehensive response. On the first part of the response rel...

Baroness Buscombe | 779 c237GC (Link to this contribution)

I may not be able to reassure the noble Lord, but we simply do not feel that it is necessary to h...

Lord Watson of Invergowrie | 779 c237GC (Link to this contribution)

Yes, but that is not giving a reason. The proposal is very important, and it fits in with the pro...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 779 c239GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara

57: Clause 37, page 18, line 14, at end insert—<...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 779 c239GC (Link to this contribution)

I shall, rather sensibly, be brief because I am trying to amend a clause that I think will be del...

Lord Nash | 779 cc239-240GC (Link to this contribution)

I intend to go into the detail, which the noble Lord, Lord Stevenson, referred to, of the applica...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 779 c240GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for his comments, which I fully accept. I beg leave to withdraw the amendmen...

Lord Nash | 779 c240GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Nash

58: Clause 37, leave out Clause 37 and insert the following new Cl...

Lord Nash | 779 cc240-1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the amendments we have tabled are to replace the original Clause 37 with a new version,...

Baroness Garden of Frognal | 779 cc241-2GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Garden of Frognal

59: Clause 38, page 19, line 4, at end insert—

Baroness Garden of Frognal | 779 c242GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Clause 38 is about information reported to the Secretary of State about further educati...

Earl of Liverpool | 779 cc242-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Garden of Frognal, for referring to my amendm...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 779 cc243-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we have an amendment in this group. I support the amendments proposed by the noble Baro...

Baroness Buscombe | 779 cc244-7GC (Link to this contribution)

Amendment 59 is proposed by the noble Baroness, Lady Garden, and the noble Lord, Lord Storey. It ...

Baroness Garden of Frognal | 779 c246GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for her detailed reply and the noble Earl, Lord Liverpool, and the noble Lor...

Baroness Garden of Frognal | 779 cc246-8GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Garden of Frognal

63: After Clause 38, insert the following new Cla...

Baroness Garden of Frognal | 779 cc248-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is a probing amendment because I am well aware that issues of VAT are somewhat out...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 779 c249GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendment; it is a probing amendment in a complex area. Of course the mat...

Lord Nash | 779 cc249-250GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank noble Lords for this amendment, which calls for a change in tax policy. It seeks to allow...

Baroness Garden of Frognal | 779 c250GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister for his careful looking and I thank the noble Lord, Lord Stevenson,...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 779 c250GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath

64: Before Clause 39, insert the following new Clau...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 779 cc250-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I remind the House of my interest in that my wife is a consultant at the Education and ...

Lord Storey | 779 c253GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendment. The noble Lord, Lord Hunt, has spoken wise words. In local gov...

Baroness Cohen of Pimlico | 779 c253GC (Link to this contribution)

I support the amendment. I am new to the business of voluntary governorship in state-funded insti...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 779 cc253-4GC (Link to this contribution)

I hesitate to speak because I can see that a Division is pending and it would nice for us to be a...

Lord Nash | 779 cc254-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I recognise the very important role played by clerks as expert advisers to governing bo...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 779 c256GC (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to the Minister. I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.

Lord Nash | 779 c256GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Nash

65: Clause 43, page 20, line 4, leave out “extends” and insert “an...

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